Author Topic: The truth on why Victor, Wolf and Kai will never win the Olympia (Read 2648 times)

El Diablo Blanco · « **on:** June 19, 2009, 06:47:14 AM »

It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy

Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.

This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.

That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.

Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #1 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:25:51 AM »

Quote from: mon_of_steele on June 19, 2009, 06:47:14 AM

It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy

Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.

This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.

That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.

Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.

Well said Weider will make sure Chick doesnt allow non-Weider guys to ever win the title.

tendonitis · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:27:20 AM »

Quote from: mon_of_steele on June 19, 2009, 06:47:14 AM

It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy

Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.

This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.

That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.

Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.

QFT

BayGBM · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:33:09 AM »

Quote from: mon_of_steele on June 19, 2009, 06:47:14 AM

It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy

Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.

This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.

That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.

Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.

True. I made this observation back in 2004.

pumpster · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:35:19 AM »

Same thing with Arnold over Sergio, Columbu ever winning, Zane always winning over Robinson, Samir over Fox, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:51:45 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on June 19, 2009, 07:35:19 AM

Same thing with Arnold over Sergio, Columbu ever winning, Zane always winning over Robinson, Samir over Fox, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.

It's nothing more than a medium to sell more FLEX and M&F magazines. This is bread and butter of the business.

njflex · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:54:58 AM »

Quote from: mon_of_steele on June 19, 2009, 07:51:45 AM

It's nothing more than a medium to sell more FLEX and M&F magazines. This is bread and butter of the business.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!

Boost · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:27:27 AM »

of course,

nothing to do with muscletech,

all to do with AMI

Mars · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:27:56 AM »

and how do you explain the fact that no mr olympia was ever black? rascism?

lax · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:29:21 AM »

Quote from: Boost on June 19, 2009, 08:27:27 AM

of course,

nothing to do with muscletech,

all to do with AMI

No.

Here is why:

Victor=horrible felon and piece of scum human
Wolf= does not look good
Kai=come on now

that is all.

Big_Tymer · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:31:01 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on June 19, 2009, 07:35:19 AM

Same thing with Arnold over Sergio, Columbu ever winning, Zane always winning over Robinson, Samir over Fox, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.

The mr. o contest doesnt hold any legitimacy anymore.

lax · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:33:22 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on June 19, 2009, 07:35:19 AM

Same thing with Arnold over Sergio

sometimes

, Columbu ever winning

correct on franco

, Zane always winning over Robinson

Zane FAR outshone RR, always

, Samir over Fox

Samir> Chunky Fox

, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.

Mars · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:35:46 AM »

dave palumbo never won the O.

CT_Muscle · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:51:10 AM »

Kai will win in 09 UNLESS Levrone enters the show

pumpster · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:54:24 AM »

Quote from: Big_Tymer on June 19, 2009, 08:31:01 AM

The mr. o contest doesnt hold any legitimacy anymore.

It does actually, a lot. Reminds me of the Oscars-often the less deserving win but overall they're still watched and albeit less than previously.

pumpster · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:57:53 AM »

Quote

Zane FAR outshone RR, always

, Samir over Fox

Samir> Chunky Fox

If you look at the videos..

-Only in 78, not 77 or 79, Robinson (and Callender) were at least as cut and conditioned as Zane, and of course much much bigger. Zane didn't deserve that one. The common perception that Zane deserved all of them is helped in large part by the dearth of evidence.

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme

-Fox had only himself to blame because he could've won outright even with the politics had he been shredded but again if you look at the video he's still at least as cut as Samir and a lot bigger and more balanced even without benig at his best.

-Same thing with Vic; too many negatives now when there are others who are comparable.

-Sergio ya i meant part of them time; it would have gone back and forth in fair shows, with Sergio and Serge probably winning a fair number of shows in the 70s especially after Arnold retired.

In all cases it's just as a former Olympia winner told me-Weider likes good spokesmen as winners; people without attitudes or baggage. This makes some sense but should be part of the judging criteria, which it's not.

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:08:42 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on June 19, 2009, 08:57:53 AM

If you look at the videos..

-Only in 78, not 77 or 79, Robinson (and Callender) were at least as cut and conditioned as Zane, and of course much much bigger. Zane didn't deserve that one. The common perception that Zane deserved all of them is helped in large part by the dearth of evidence.

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme

-Fox had only himself to blame because he could've won outright even with the politics had he been shredded but again if you look at the video he's still at least as cut as Samir and a lot bigger and more balanced even without benig at his best.

-Same thing with Vic; too many negatives now when there are others who are comparable.

-Sergio ya i meant part of them time; it would have gone back and forth in fair shows, with Sergio and Serge probably winning a fair number of shows in the 70s especially after Arnold retired.

In all cases it's just as a former Olympia winner told me-Weider likes good spokesmen as winners; people without attitudes or baggage. This makes some sense but should be part of the judging criteria, which it's not.

What kind of spokesman is Dexter? he can hardly string two sentences together. The guy is a cocky midget, looks like shit in the off-season(for a pro) and then looks the same for the last 50 contests he entered. Plain and simple is that he is a Weider guy.

bigmc · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2009, 12:08:33 PM »

Ronnie wasn't a weider athlete when he won the O

end of thread

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:33:15 PM »

Kai's physique is exciting because of his incredible detail, definition, and muscle mass

Jay's just a big dude

lax · « **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:38:53 PM »

Quote from: pumpster on June 19, 2009, 08:57:53 AM

If you look at the videos..

-Only in 78, not 77 or 79, Robinson (and Callender) were at least as cut and conditioned as Zane, and of course much much bigger. Zane didn't deserve that one. The common perception that Zane deserved all of them is helped in large part by the dearth of evidence.

No.

RR had mediocre legs, Callendar's even worse
Zane had great thighs, among the best ever back then

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme

-Fox had only himself to blame because he could've won outright even with the politics had he been shredded but again if you look at the video he's still at least as cut as Samir and a lot bigger and more balanced even without benig at his best.

I just don't see hit. He seemed to 'globby' and not refined

-Same thing with Vic; too many negatives now when there are others who are comparable.

Agreed...baggage

-Sergio ya i meant part of them time; it would have gone back and forth in fair shows, with Sergio and Serge probably winning a fair number of shows in the 70s especially after Arnold retired.

Yes

In all cases it's just as a former Olympia winner told me-Weider likes good spokesmen as winners; people without attitudes or baggage. This makes some sense but should be part of the judging criteria, which it's not.

Agreed

Boost · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:39:20 PM »

Wolf is out of the O,

This last weekend he slipped while trampolining and ruptured his spleen.

lax · « **Reply #21 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:41:06 PM »

Quote from: Boost on June 19, 2009, 01:39:20 PM

Wolf is out of the O,

This last weekend he slipped while trampolining and ruptured his spleen.

Wolf will never win.

he does not have 'it'.

you will soon witness his departure from the stage.

Boost · « **Reply #22 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:43:49 PM »

Quote from: lax on June 19, 2009, 01:41:06 PM

Wolf will never win.

he does not have 'it'.

you will soon witness his departure from the stage.

Phil Heath is also out do to kayaking accident which left him horribly disfigured

MCWAY · « **Reply #23 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:48:22 PM »

Quote from: mon_of_steele on June 19, 2009, 06:47:14 AM

It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy

Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.

This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.

That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.

Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.

One problem with your analysis.

Haney won his last two Olympias, while working for MD and Twinlab. In fact, Twinlab marketed the "Lee Haney's Mass Fuel Kit", shortly after he joined their fold (I still have the videotape that came with the kit I got on clearance years ago).

Haney's winning his last two Olympias, working for a rival company and magazine (especially when doing so put him PAST ARNOLD), would make no sense if the "fix" were into play.

Ronnie won his first Olympia, as a member of Team MET-Rx. Weider signed him shortly afterward. Plus, runner-up, Flex Wheeler had left Weider prior to the 1998 Olympia. I believe he was with Bio-Chem. The highest placing bodybuilder, who worked for Weider was 3rd-placed Nasser El Sonbaty.

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #24 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:55:44 PM »

Jay, who?