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according to him, drinking milk coffee before or during training is doping becauser of the caffeine and protein. ::) ::)
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according to him, drinking milk coffee before or during training is doping becauser of the caffeine and protein. ::) ::)
Caffeine=banned substance in natural bbing circles.
THG approved
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its a drug that could improve athletic performance... :-*
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its a drug that could improve athletic performance... :-*
Further proof that natural bbing=total fiction
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its a drug that could improve athletic performance... :-*
Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.
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Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.
yes, i make this difference as well.
if testosterone grew on a tree in some plant, it would be ok.
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Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.
Synthetic testosterone is identical in its chemical composition to natural testosterone. Although it is synthesized, there is no difference between it and what we have in our bodies, apart from the doses people choose to take. Looks like TEG is slipping up...
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Synthetic testosterone is identical in its chemical composition to natural testosterone. Although it is synthesized, there is no different between it and what we have in our bodies, apart from the doses people choose to take. Looks like TEG is slipping up...
Trust Deicide to put an owning on self righteous assholes.
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yes, i make this difference as well.
if testosterone grew on a tree in some plant, it would be ok.
And of course, the hormones we Americans feed our chickens and beef cattle are ok, too.
So, as I like to say, "we're perfectly ok with taking steroids in this country, so long as they're introduced early in the food chain".
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And of course, the hormones we Americans feed our chickens and beef cattle are ok, too.
So, as I like to say, "we're perfectly ok with taking steroids in this country, so long as they're introduced early in the food chain".
Homey Tre bringing teh funny... ;D
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And of course, the hormones we Americans feed our chickens and beef cattle are ok, too.
So, as I like to say, "we're perfectly ok with taking steroids in this country, so long as they're introduced early in the food chain".
hahaahaha, yes, steroids in food sucks big time.
I try to buy my meat organic. ;D ;D
I don't want to start another natural/juicer debate, if you want to juice, juice, if you don't want to, leave it.
But considering coffee as doping for a recreational gym goer is over the edge.
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i would buy organic but it would make me feel like a hippy, and secondly and probably a more relevant point, is that I cant afford it. :-\
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yes, i make this difference as well.
if testosterone grew on a tree in some plant, it would be ok.
Haha I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I was just saying that Caffeine isn't a drug, unlike Aspirin, for example. It could be classified as a "drug" in a Pharmaceutical context, but it's not actually so per se.
Synthetic testosterone is identical in its chemical composition to natural testosterone. Although it is synthesized, there is no difference between it and what we have in our bodies, apart from the doses people choose to take. Looks like TEG is slipping up...
Artificially reproducing a naturally occurring substance isn't the same as bringing into existence a combination of molecules to create a new product / substance that doesn't exist otherwise.
Trust Deicide to put an owning on self righteous assholes.
Is that aimed at me?
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Haha I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I was just saying that Caffeine isn't a drug, unlike Aspirin for example.
Artificially reproducing a naturally occurring substance isn't the same as bringing into existence a combination of molecules that doesn't exist otherwise.
Is that aimed at me?
Exactly. Synthetic testo=has the same molecular composition as normal testo=same
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Is that aimed at me?
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I dunno, it can be if you want it to be.
Personally I dont even know why I wrote that.
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I dunno, it can be if you want it to be.
Personally I dont even know why I wrote that.
Omdat je de man bent!
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Omdat je de man bent!
Dankie, selfde vir jou. ;)
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Exactly. Synthetic testo=has the same molecular composition as normal testo=same
Agreed.
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I dunno, it can be if you want it to be.
Personally I dont even know why I wrote that.
It can be if I want it to be, huh? Thank you kindly, but I'll refrain from accepting your calling me a self-righteous asshole ;D
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Agreed.
It can be if I want it to be, huh? Thank you kindly, but I'll refrain from accepting your calling me a self-righteous asshole ;D
TEG=can easily lead to undue hubris...
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according to him, drinking milk coffee before or during training is doping becauser of the caffeine and protein. ::) ::)
you're a fucking junky donkey.
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Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.
Haha I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I was just saying that Caffeine isn't a drug, unlike Aspirin, for example. It could be classified as a "drug" in a Pharmaceutical context, but it's not actually so per se.
Where did you get this definition of the word drug? The dictionary doesn't define it like this. I think you're completely wrong. If I drink Coca Tea or chew Kat like the Somalians do I'm not using a drug?
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i would buy organic but it would make me feel like a hippy, and secondly and probably a more relevant point, is that I cant afford it. :-\
at least you're honest, i appreciate it.
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you're a fucking junky donkey.
yeah, looks like it.
Now that i drink coffee, i might as well do 100mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace, 30mg dianabol, 4 i.u. hgh for my beginner's cycle.
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Where did you get this definition of the word drug? The dictionary doesn't define it like this. I think you're completely wrong. If I drink Coca Tea or chew Kat like the Somalians do I'm not using a drug?
I see what you're saying. What I've said is more of a basis of classification than it was meant to be a definition (which it's not). It's like Marijuana and Ecstasy being classified as drugs, for example, even though the former occurs naturally while the latter is synthesized.
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I see what you're saying. What I've said is more of a basis of classification than it was meant to be a definition (which it's not).
Yes, he is right, what you meant is like the "natural BB" definition of drug use.
Natural BB take natural drugs, i wonder if there are guys that would say Ephedra is okay, but Ephedrine is bad.
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Yes, he is right, what you meant is like the "natural BB" definition of drug use.
Natural BB take natural drugs, i wonder if there are guys that would say Ephedra is okay, but Ephedrine is bad.
Agreed, DK.
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Agreed, DK.
What do you say about the Ephedra/Ephedrine thing?
That's what i jokingly referred to by saying test on trees, i think a lot of people think like this.
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What do you say about the Ephedra/Ephedrine thing?
It's like you said before - depends on who you ask. For some, natural bodybuilding is simply "no steroids". For others, it means not even protein or Creatine and stuff like that. Guess everyone draws the line where it suits them or whatever makes sense for them, based on how they define it, if at all.
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Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.
in that case marijuana isn't a drug ::)
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And of course, the hormones we Americans feed our chickens and beef cattle are ok, too.
So, as I like to say, "we're perfectly ok with taking steroids in this country, so long as they're introduced early in the food chain".
;D
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It's like you said before - depends on who you ask. For some, natural bodybuilding is simply "no steroids". For others, it means not even protein or Creatine and stuff like that. Guess everyone draws the line where it suits them or whatever makes sense for them, based on how they define it, if at all.
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haha natural bodybuilding is far cheaper than all out drugged up bbing you can cling onto that at least :D
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Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.
Actually this is not true,...cocaine grows in a plant,...it is classified a plant alkaloid. It is dissolved from coca plant pulp with solvents (Usually ether), then reacted with Hydrochloric acid to yield cocaine chloride.
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It's like you said before - depends on who you ask. For some, natural bodybuilding is simply "no steroids". For others, it means not even protein or Creatine and stuff like that. Guess everyone draws the line where it suits them or whatever makes sense for them, based on how they define it, if at all.
for me, natural BB is no crystal meth and paint thinner. ;D
haha natural bodybuilding is far cheaper than all out drugged up bbing you can cling onto that at least :D
that's true. and you don't need a transplant later in life, probably.
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Actually this is not true,...cocaine grows in a plant,...it is classified a plant alkaloid. It is dissolved from coca plant pulp with solvents (Usually ether), then reacted with Hydrochloric acid to yield cocaine chloride.
what does this have to do with anything?
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yes, i make this difference as well.
if testosterone grew on a tree in some plant, it would be ok.
Unless a new process has been developed, testosterone is manufactured from soy beans.
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Unless a new process has been developed, testosterone is manufactured from soy beans.
so you're saying that vegetarians are juicers? ;D ;D
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haha natural bodybuilding is far cheaper than all out drugged up bbing you can cling onto that at least :D
yeah but the guys who drug themselves up receive big checks to cover the expenses ::)
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what does this have to do with anything?
Herr Kwiol stated that things grown in plants are not drugs, but synthysized in labs.
Also opium/heroin comes from poppies....
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Herr Kwiol stated that things grown in plants are not drugs, but synthysized in labs.
Also opium/heroin comes from poppies....
ach scheise, jetst ferschte ich.
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Herr Kwiol stated that things grown in plants are not drugs, but synthysized in labs.
Also opium/heroin comes from poppies....
read the whole thread, he reffered to the special case of "natural" BB.
Natural BB think natural drugs are ok, like tribulus, but testosterone is bad.
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Herr Kwiol stated that things grown in plants are not drugs, but synthysized in labs.
Also opium/heroin comes from poppies....
All irrelevant. Kiwiol=Team Elite Genetics
End of Thread.
THG approved
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All irrelevant. Kiwiol=Team Elite Genetics
End of Thread.
THG approved
crappy mongoloid brain genetics though :D
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crappy mongoloid brain genetics though :D
Nah, actually: Kiwiol= Team Elite Genetics (BBing) and Team Good Genetics (Mental)
THG approved
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crappy mongoloid brain genetics though :D
Hey, no one's perfect 8) ;D
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what the hell is milk coffee?? I thought whales had starbucks??
Is that the new shit they sell at mcdonalds you were drinkin, MCcoffee or something??
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what the hell is milk coffee?? I thought whales had starbucks??
Is that the new shit they sell at mcdonalds you were drinkin, MCcoffee or something??
oh sorry, i translated directly from german. i mix 700ml fat free milk with 3 spoons instant coffee.
coffee with milk, but in my case it's milk with coffee, actually.
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oh sorry, i translated directly from german. i mix 700ml fat free milk with 3 spoons instant coffee.
coffee with milk, but in my case it's milk with coffee, actually.
whats it in german?
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oh sorry, i translated directly from german. i mix 700ml fat free milk with 3 spoons instant coffee.
coffee with milk, but in my case it's milk with coffee, actually.
nice
DK would you drink milk if you came to the US????
.....all you foreign guys talk about milk all the time, in the US I believe people are almost allergic someway to the bovine growth hormone and antibiotics they pump cows full of here
I stay away from milk because of the minor skin swelling it cause from fluid retention, cause something going on subcutaneous and I lack vascularity if I consume too much dairy
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whats it in german?
der Milchkaffee, -s
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whats it in german?
Milchkaffee.
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DK would you drink milk if you came to the US????
.....all you foreign guys talk about milk all the time, in the US I believe people are almost allergic someway to the bovine growth hormone and antibiotics they pump cows full of here
I stay away from milk because of the minor skin swelling it cause from fluid retention, cause something going on subcutaneous and I lack vascularity if I consume too much dairy
Same here, i hate that, but milk protein is cheap and easily available everywhere. i eat a lot of yoghurt as well.
Everytime i'm in Japan, i naturally switch to other protein sources, much less dairy, but lots of fish, tofu and amino acid supplements (available in every supermarket in japan). I lose a lot of water in the first few days and my skin looks better when i don't drink milk, but here in germany there's almost no other choice than to drink milk.
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im having a photoshoot in japan next week.
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im having a photoshoot in japan next week.
cool, need an interpreter? ;D ;D
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cool, need an interpreter? ;D ;D
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Caffeine is not banned by natural organisations, it is a safe and healthy substance to consume at moderate amounts (anything up to 200mg) on a daily basis, anything greater than 300mg becomes unhealthy in long term and damages gastrointestinal tract, also causes acid reflux into esophagus.
Method101 Approved.
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cool, need an interpreter? ;D ;D
you know japanese musclehunk?
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der Milchkaffee, -s
What is - Milch Kafferer?
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you know japanese musclehunk?
a bit. ;)
What is - Milch Kafferer?
LMAO, a bastard-Xhosa maybe?
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What is - Milch Kafferer?
Ehm, no.
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Caffeine=banned substance in natural bbing circles.
THG approved
Well, why the hell am I not 300lbs ripped at 5'10 then with all the caffeine I consume? I call bull butter on this.
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der Milchkaffee, -s
Not in Vienna
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Further proof that natural bbing=total fiction
i had a natural competitor at the team u ask me years ago why i didn't compete in the team U ....i simply said do i look natural.... to which he replied i can respect that.......he then went on to tell me how good haladrol, M1T and orstan A are......unbelievable how naive people are
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LMAO, a bastard-Xhosa maybe?
bahaha not many will get that one.
no doubt about it.
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bahaha not many will get that one.
no doubt about it.
;D ;D ;D
i had a natural competitor at the team u ask me years ago why i didn't compete in the team U ....i simply said do i look natural.... to which he replied i can respect that.......he then went on to tell me how good haladrol, M1T and orstan A are......unbelievable how naive people are
Yep, as long as there aren't any reliable testings going on you wouldn't think people would not cheat while they can.
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that guy relating caffine to doping might be some everyday joe that doesn't know anything about roids and hgh.
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that guy relating caffine to doping might be some everyday joe that doesn't know anything about roids and hgh.
:o :o
He would probably call the police if i had told him i take creatine.