Guy in the gym accused me of doping because of milk coffee

[DK II]

according to him, drinking milk coffee before or during training is doping becauser of the caffeine and protein. 

[Deicide]

according to him, drinking milk coffee before or during training is doping becauser of the caffeine and protein. 

Caffeine=banned substance in natural bbing circles.

THG approved

[io856]

its a drug that could improve athletic performance... 

[Deicide]

its a drug that could improve athletic performance... 

Further proof that natural bbing=total fiction

[kiwiol]

its a drug that could improve athletic performance... 

Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.

[DK II]

Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.

yes, i  make this difference as well.

if testosterone grew on a tree in some plant, it would be ok.

[Deicide]

Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.

Synthetic testosterone is identical in its chemical composition to natural testosterone. Although it is synthesized, there is no difference between it and what we have in our bodies, apart from the doses people choose to take. Looks like TEG is slipping up...

[Eisenherz]

Synthetic testosterone is identical in its chemical composition to natural testosterone. Although it is synthesized, there is no different between it and what we have in our bodies, apart from the doses people choose to take. Looks like TEG is slipping up...

Trust Deicide to put an owning on self righteous assholes.

[Tre]

yes, i  make this difference as well.

if testosterone grew on a tree in some plant, it would be ok.

And of course, the hormones we Americans feed our chickens and beef cattle are ok, too. 

So, as I like to say, "we're perfectly ok with taking steroids in this country, so long as they're introduced early in the food chain".

[Deicide]

And of course, the hormones we Americans feed our chickens and beef cattle are ok, too. 

So, as I like to say, "we're perfectly ok with taking steroids in this country, so long as they're introduced early in the food chain".

Homey Tre bringing teh funny...

[DK II]

And of course, the hormones we Americans feed our chickens and beef cattle are ok, too. 

So, as I like to say, "we're perfectly ok with taking steroids in this country, so long as they're introduced early in the food chain".

hahaahaha, yes, steroids in food sucks big time.

I try to buy my meat organic.  

I don't want to start another natural/juicer debate, if you want to juice, juice, if you don't want to, leave it.

But considering coffee as doping for a recreational gym goer is over the edge.

[Eisenherz]

i would buy organic but it would make me feel like a hippy, and secondly and probably a more relevant point, is that I cant afford it.

[kiwiol]

yes, i  make this difference as well.

if testosterone grew on a tree in some plant, it would be ok.

Haha I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I was just saying that Caffeine isn't a drug, unlike Aspirin, for example. It could be classified as a "drug" in a Pharmaceutical context, but it's not actually so per se.

Synthetic testosterone is identical in its chemical composition to natural testosterone. Although it is synthesized, there is no difference between it and what we have in our bodies, apart from the doses people choose to take. Looks like TEG is slipping up...

Artificially reproducing a naturally occurring substance isn't the same as bringing into existence a combination of molecules to create a new product / substance that doesn't exist otherwise.

Trust Deicide to put an owning on self righteous assholes.

Is that aimed at me?

[Deicide]

Haha I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I was just saying that Caffeine isn't a drug, unlike Aspirin for example.

Artificially reproducing a naturally occurring substance isn't the same as bringing into existence a combination of molecules that doesn't exist otherwise.

Is that aimed at me?

Exactly. Synthetic testo=has the same molecular composition as normal testo=same

[Eisenherz]

Is that aimed at me?

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I dunno, it can be if you want it to be.
Personally I dont even know why I wrote that.

[Deicide]

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I dunno, it can be if you want it to be.
Personally I dont even know why I wrote that.

Omdat je de man bent!

[Eisenherz]

Omdat je de man bent!

Dankie, selfde vir jou.

[kiwiol]

Exactly. Synthetic testo=has the same molecular composition as normal testo=same

Agreed.

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I dunno, it can be if you want it to be.
Personally I dont even know why I wrote that.

It can be if I want it to be, huh? Thank you kindly, but I'll refrain from accepting your calling me a self-righteous asshole

[Deicide]

Agreed.

It can be if I want it to be, huh? Thank you kindly, but I'll refrain from accepting your calling me a self-righteous asshole

TEG=can easily lead to undue hubris...

[jon cole]

according to him, drinking milk coffee before or during training is doping becauser of the caffeine and protein. 

you're a fucking junky donkey.

[Van_Bilderass]

Caffeine is a (natural) plant extract, not a drug. A drug, biochemically speaking, is something that is synthesized (artificially, such as in a lab) and doesn't exist in nature by itself.

Haha I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I was just saying that Caffeine isn't a drug, unlike Aspirin, for example. It could be classified as a "drug" in a Pharmaceutical context, but it's not actually so per se.

Where did you get this definition of the word drug? The dictionary doesn't define it like this. I think you're completely wrong. If I drink Coca Tea or chew Kat like the Somalians do I'm not using a drug?

[DK II]

i would buy organic but it would make me feel like a hippy, and secondly and probably a more relevant point, is that I cant afford it.

at least you're honest, i appreciate it.

[DK II]

you're a fucking junky donkey.

yeah, looks like it.

Now that i drink coffee, i might as well do 100mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace, 30mg dianabol, 4 i.u. hgh for my beginner's cycle.

[kiwiol]

Where did you get this definition of the word drug? The dictionary doesn't define it like this. I think you're completely wrong. If I drink Coca Tea or chew Kat like the Somalians do I'm not using a drug?

I see what you're saying. What I've said is more of a basis of classification than it was meant to be a definition (which it's not). It's like Marijuana and Ecstasy being classified as drugs, for example, even though the former occurs naturally while the latter is synthesized.

[DK II]

I see what you're saying. What I've said is more of a basis of classification than it was meant to be a definition (which it's not).

Yes, he is right, what you meant is like the "natural BB" definition of drug use.

Natural BB take natural drugs, i wonder if there are guys that would say Ephedra is okay, but Ephedrine is bad.