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Title: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 12, 2009, 10:38:52 AM
Which is more chemically fueled? Discuss.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: chaos on July 12, 2009, 10:46:08 AM
Which is more chemically fueled? Discuss.
BBing for sure, strongmen don't need all that "cutting" shit.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Wiggs on July 12, 2009, 10:46:35 AM
top bodybuilder...........ea sily ;)
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Ursus on July 12, 2009, 10:55:29 AM
Naturals can get reasonably clos to juiced lifters strength (raw) but nowhere near the size.

BBers I'd say

I know a drug free raw lifter who bench presses 550lbs (or there abouts) in comp - 'only' 150lbs behind geared lifters

However the biggest natties in world look tiny beside even average geared bbuillders.

It leads me to thinking that drugs are better more potent for size rather than strength
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 12, 2009, 10:58:08 AM
I know amateur strongmen who have taken 8+ anadrol per day
But many come off between competitions
All in all top bodybuilders would use more different substances and use more continuously
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 12, 2009, 10:59:33 AM
Strongmen don't need diuretics or all the drugs for cutting down to 4% bodyfat and ripped glutes.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: BB on July 12, 2009, 05:09:38 PM
Yes, it has to go to bodybuilding. Most of the stacks I've seen ran a gram(1000mg) to 2 grams of various things among known powerlifters. Strongman would be similar in use I figure.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: lift 456 on July 12, 2009, 06:50:02 PM
bodybuilders = way more gear
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: sync pulse on July 12, 2009, 07:03:34 PM
Olympic lifters in the 1960's-1970's used only slightly more than HRT doses.  My biology teacher before class would go to the water fountain to take his hit of Dbol.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: tommywishbone on July 12, 2009, 07:29:05 PM
Bodybuilder's take more. It's not even close.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: gib on July 12, 2009, 07:35:54 PM
Bodybuilding for sure.

Strongmen take just the basics - testosterone, Anadrol/dbol/Winstrol etc, maybe some take HGH if they can get it.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: nicky.smth on July 12, 2009, 07:47:31 PM
Bodybuilding requires more..

Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Spike on July 12, 2009, 08:24:04 PM
(http://www.itrening.pl/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/mariusz-pudzianowski.jpg)

Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: BFP on July 12, 2009, 09:15:14 PM
Bodybuilders
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Matt C on July 13, 2009, 01:48:26 AM
Pudzianowski or Tyson?
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: io856 on July 13, 2009, 01:56:01 AM
obviously the bodybuilder

because the strongman uses AAS, painkillers & HGH right???

the bodybuilder uses AAS, HGH, insulin, diuretics, fatburners (t3, clen, dnp etc)
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 13, 2009, 03:45:07 AM
Naturals can get reasonably clos to juiced lifters strength (raw) but nowhere near the size.


I know a drug free raw lifter who bench presses 550lbs (or there abouts) in comp - 'only' 150lbs behind geared lifters

However the biggest natties in world look tiny beside even average geared bbuillders.

It leads me to thinking that drugs are better more potent for size rather than strength
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

you are fucking delusional...honestly
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on July 13, 2009, 03:59:30 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

you are fucking delusional...honestly
Why is he?
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 13, 2009, 04:03:00 AM
Why is he?
just read what he wrote

" natties can attain the same strength as juicers

oh brother

that's why powerlifters OD on halo, drol test etc etc
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: io856 on July 13, 2009, 04:17:44 AM
andy bolton is natural  :D
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: spinnis on July 13, 2009, 04:23:09 AM
TOP strong men for sure.

On a swedish forum there was this swedish strongman that was on aboyt 4-5g EW and went to russia and train ans he was SHOCKED how much shit they took.
And thats coming from a gut thats on 5g ew lol.

Russians were Nuts with the orals etc, didnt give a fuck about their liver and so on
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: io856 on July 13, 2009, 04:24:54 AM
TOP strong men for sure.
what do you base that on?
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: The Master on July 13, 2009, 04:29:13 AM
TOP strong men for sure.

On a swedish forum there was this swedish strongman that was on aboyt 4-5g EW and went to russia and train ans he was SHOCKED how much shit they took.
And thats coming from a gut thats on 5g ew lol.

Russians were Nuts with the orals etc, didnt give a fuck about their liver and so on


Bingo!
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on July 13, 2009, 04:30:44 AM
just read what he wrote

" natties can attain the same strength as juicers

oh brother

that's why powerlifters OD on halo, drol test etc etc
I can agree with what your saying. But I think he was getting at measurement of success between the two. An "enhanced" regional champion PL and natural regional champ PL's numbers would be more closer than say physiques a Trey Brewer NPC BB and a "Pete McDugan"(Fake name) devoted 15 year southeast "natural" BB champion.

Sorry about the delayed response, Im on the job while posting :P
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Method101 on July 13, 2009, 04:34:29 AM
Strongmen probably use more Testosterone but Bodybuilders use diuretics etc. so the most lethal combination is taken by bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Ursus on July 13, 2009, 07:45:19 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

you are fucking delusional...honestly

The difference in strength between top nattie PLers and top druged strongmen is less than the difference in size of top nattie bbuilders and top drugged bbuilders.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 13, 2009, 07:45:44 AM
The difference in strength between top nattie PLers and top druged strongmen is less than the difference in size of top nattie bbuilders and top drugged bbuilders.

duh .. aaaa not
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Ursus on July 13, 2009, 07:53:44 AM
WR raw drug free bench is like what 550-600lbs

geared its a little over 700?

Top nattyat 5'10 is what 195lbs?

Top geared bbuilders at 5'10 is 280+
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: BB on July 13, 2009, 08:10:56 AM
Over the years, they've posted the numbers on heavly tested versus non-tested meets with top lifters, the drugs tended to add about 30% to a total, give or take.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Ursus on July 13, 2009, 08:14:54 AM
Thanks for that BB

Would you say that the difference in muscle between natties and geard bbuilders is more than 30%
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Devon97 on July 13, 2009, 08:19:06 AM
WR raw drug free bench is like what 550-600lbs

geared its a little over 700?

Top nattyat 5'10 is what 195lbs?

Top geared bbuilders at 5'10 is 280+

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Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 13, 2009, 08:20:18 AM
WR raw drug free bench is like what 550-600lbs

geared its a little over 700?

Top nattyat 5'10 is what 195lbs?

Top geared bbuilders at 5'10 is 280+

How do you know which lifts are drug free? The strictest drug tested fed is the IPF and they have a serious drug problem, especially in some countries.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 13, 2009, 08:23:00 AM
andy bolton is natural  :D

I'd love to see Bolton's stack. He has that Brian Batcheldor coaching him. Dude is a real drug guru.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: BB on July 13, 2009, 08:27:53 AM
Thanks for that BB

Would you say that the difference in muscle between natties and geard bbuilders is more than 30%

Gosh, I'm too lazy to figure it out, but a decent geared user who runs a lot of stuff, tends to be 50-70lbs heavier than a decent natural of similar frame size, condition, etc.......
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on July 13, 2009, 08:32:45 AM
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Okay. Now take the bench shirts out of the equation and you'll see what we're getting at.
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Ursus on July 13, 2009, 12:04:17 PM
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Notice I said 'raw' you fool
Title: Re: Which Requires More Drugs, Top IFBB Bodybuilder or Top World`s Strongest Man?
Post by: Immortal_Technique on July 14, 2009, 06:48:25 AM
Imagine Pudz in UFC! He is a good fighter already, reckon he'd be badass at take-downs and stuff, would be great to get him vs Brock Lesnar.