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Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets? Do your religious views allow for intelligent life on other planets and the possibility that they might visit earth? Would your faith be tested, affirmed, or undermined by a visit from alien life?
If a planet is too close to a sun it will be too hot to support life as we know it; if a planet is too far from a sun, it will be too cold to support life as we know it. A planet that is not too far away or too close to its sun (like Earth) lies in what astronomers call the Habitable Zone of a star system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitable_zone
Given the amount of stars out there and the amount of planets that must exist in the Habitable Zone, I am certain there is intelligent life on other planets. :)
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the dzopa stones
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Dzopa.html
also do a search for "the orion belt ufos"
and see what ya find! :)
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The star Child
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good question..gotta ponder this a bit
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Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets? Do your religious views allow for intelligent life on other planets and the possibility that they might visit earth? Would your faith be tested, affirmed, or undermined by a visit from alien life?
As far as I can tell the Christian bible does not state the impossibility of life on other planets.
My faith wouldn't be tested/affirmed nor undermined by a visit from alien life.
It's interesting though that some people believe UFO activity and "alien visitors" may actually be demons that have broken through to this dimension or that we are allowed to see them for some reason.
Some believe that the UFO deal will play a big part in the end times.
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question stells...
lets say there is life on other planets...
would god have sent them prophets also? or an equivalent of Jesus and a equivalent bible?
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question stells...
lets say there is life on other planets...
would god have sent them prophets also? or an equivalent of Jesus and a equivalent bible?
I was thinking the same thing. If aliens came to earth and made any reference to a Christ-like figure or religious text in their past it is hard to believe religious people on earth would not be quick to latch onto it as proof of their religious beliefs.
There is precedent for this; we have all seen and heard stories of statues of the virgin Mary crying. The news media and people of faith go into a frenzy every time there is rumor of something like this happening. Similarly, remember all the buzz generated by the Shroud of Turin? It ostensibly contained the image of a man who appears to have been physically traumatized in a manner consistent with crucifixion. After many years of hype, it was finally radiocarbon dated and shown to be have been created at least 1300 years after the crucifixion. The hype quickly disappeared.
In my experience, people of faith tend to bend facts to fit into their preconceived notions. A visit from aliens would likely be assimilated in the same dynamic. :-\
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question stells...
lets say there is life on other planets...
would god have sent them prophets also? or an equivalent of Jesus and a equivalent bible?
Don't know...it's possible.
I was thinking the same thing. If aliens came to earth and made any reference to a Christ-like figure or religious text in their past it is hard to believe religious people on earth would not be quick to latch onto it as proof of their religious beliefs.
I don't know about that...did you read this:
It's interesting though that some people believe UFO activity and "alien visitors" may actually be demons that have broken through to this dimension or that we are allowed to see them for some reason.
Some believe that the UFO deal will play a big part in the end times.
Your scenario would make some people very wary imo. I don't think every Christian would necessarily believe what the aliens say regarding a Christ-like figure or religious text....especially if they believe them to be demons.
There is precedent for this; we have all seen and heard stories of statues of the virgin Mary crying. The news media and people of faith go into a frenzy every time there is rumor of something like this happening. Similarly, remember all the buzz generated by the Shroud of Turin? It ostensibly contained the image of a man who appears to have been physically traumatized in a manner consistent with crucifixion. After many years of hype, it was finally radiocarbon dated and shown to be have been created at least 1300 years after the crucifixion. The hype quickly disappeared.
I don't really see the crying Mary stuff and the shroud a long the same lines as possible alien visitation.
And I don't know enough about the shroud to comment on it but I don't believe that "crying" statues are a sign from God. Mainly because I feel it wrongly results in people worshipping Mary (a dead [but yes special!] human woman) and/or worshipping statues, grilled cheeses..whatever.
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As far as I can tell the Christian bible does not state the impossibility of life on other planets.
My faith wouldn't be tested/affirmed nor undermined by a visit from alien life.
It's interesting though that some people believe UFO activity and "alien visitors" may actually be demons that have broken through to this dimension or that we are allowed to see them for some reason.
Some believe that the UFO deal will play a big part in the end times.
I feel the same though, if they came off the ship with proof of some sort that they planted the idea of Christ and etc...my faith would be tested. I don't remember where but in the bible somewhere there is reference that "only creatures among the stars / heavens (depending on translation) are the son's of the Almighty. Also, just cause it's not in the bible doesn't mean it's not possible. For example, dinosaurs...not in the bible but we know they existed.
I see the bible as more of a guide on how to be a good person with stories about those who were and were not and the actions that lead them down their path....vs. absolute literal law like many.
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I was thinking the same thing. If aliens came to earth and made any reference to a Christ-like figure or religious text in their past it is hard to believe religious people on earth would not be quick to latch onto it as proof of their religious beliefs.
There is precedent for this; we have all seen and heard stories of statues of the virgin Mary crying. The news media and people of faith go into a frenzy every time there is rumor of something like this happening. Similarly, remember all the buzz generated by the Shroud of Turin? It ostensibly contained the image of a man who appears to have been physically traumatized in a manner consistent with crucifixion. After many years of hype, it was finally radiocarbon dated and shown to be have been created at least 1300 years after the crucifixion. The hype quickly disappeared.
In my experience, people of faith tend to bend facts to fit into their preconceived notions. A visit from aliens would likely be assimilated in the same dynamic. :-\
check out the object floating in the back
(http://www.headpress.com/Uploads/butlincat/5%207%20Madonna_PVecchio%20+%20ufo.jpg)
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also
(http://www.irishufology.net/forums/uploads/post-5-1163695091.jpg)
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Isn't it odd that the same people who ridicule the idea of God have no trouble believing in little green men?
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It's it odd that the same people who ridicule the idea of God have no trouble believing in little green men?
i didn't say i BELIEVE in little green men...
but thee is a helluva lot more evidence out there for their existance than god ;)
below..face on mars
(http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/face-on-mars.jpg)
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i didn't say i BELIEVE in little green men...
but thee is a helluva lot more evidence out there for their existance than god ;)
below..face on mars
(http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/face-on-mars.jpg)
That's about as believable as the face of Jesus appearing on a piece of toast.
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That's about as believable as the face of Jesus appearing on a piece of toast.
agreed
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i didn't say i BELIEVE in little green men...
but thee is a helluva lot more evidence out there for their existance than god ;)
below..face on mars
(http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/face-on-mars.jpg)
Yeah man, that is matrixing. The same as Michael Jackson, Jesus, and the Virgin Mary appearing on dog turds. People would see what they want to see. There are plenty of other shots of that same rock formation with different lighting and it looks nothing like a face.
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Yeah man, that is matrixing. The same as Michael Jackson, Jesus, and the Virgin Mary appearing on dog turds. People would see what they want to see. There are plenty of other shots of that same rock formation with different lighting and it looks nothing like a face.
yeah the new viking pictures...i've read both sides of the arguments...
if ya get a chance catch Ancient Aliens on the history channel...
how about this...why has THIS NOT made the news yet?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nasas-mission-to-bomb-the-moon-2009-06
NASA = Never A Straight Answer
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yeah the new viking pictures...i've read both sides of the arguments...
if ya get a chance catch Ancient Aliens on the history channel...
how about this...why has THIS NOT made the news yet?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nasas-mission-to-bomb-the-moon-2009-06
NASA = Never A Straight Answer
I watched most of it last night but fell asleep. Saw the part in Peru where there was what looked like a flattened part of the mountain. Looked interesting and really got me thinking. Will try and catch it another time.
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I watched most of it last night but fell asleep. Saw the part in Peru where there was what looked like a flattened part of the mountain. Looked interesting and really got me thinking. Will try and catch it another time.
i ws watching it last night also and the Peru part was the most interesting part..
especially the machining that went into building...for a culture that did not have a written language.. :-\
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Not in our solar system.
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Not in our solar system.
correct...but how many other solar systems are there.
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Not in our solar system.
In other news, scientists confirmed today that water is indeed wet. ::)
correct...but how many other solar systems are there.
Billions! (see video above)
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Billions! (see video above)
yep I enjoyed that video.I don't see how people could believe theres not life out there.With so many other suns with planets around them.I'd venture to say it's impossible theres not other life.
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In other news, scientists confirmed today that water is indeed wet. ::)
You got the joke, you are indeed a funny guy!
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You got the joke, you are indeed a funny guy!
are all your post's a joke?never mind I know the answer.
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bump
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bump
this question scares alot of faith based individuals.hence the lack of responses.
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If, and i believe more likely when, we find life, no matter how miniscule, it will and should squash all belief in a creator god. Gods will was 2 be done on this earth, to acount for sin entering. There would be no need of proving it again
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this question scares alot of faith based individuals.
Which faiths?
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Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets? Do your religious views allow for intelligent life on other planets and the possibility that they might visit earth? Would your faith be tested, affirmed, or undermined by a visit from alien life?
If a planet is too close to a sun it will be too hot to support life as we know it; if a planet is too far from a sun, it will be too cold to support life as we know it. A planet that is not too far away or too close to its sun (like Earth) lies in what astronomers call the Habitable Zone of a star system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitable_zone
Given the amount of stars out there and the amount of planets that must exist in the Habitable Zone, I am certain there is intelligent life on other planets. :)
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Evidence suggests water exists on the moon
Data from three spacecraft indicate that a thin film of water coats the surface of the soil in at least some spots, a discovery that raises the possibility of colonization.
By John Johnson Jr.
Space scientists have found the strongest evidence yet that water exists on the moon, a discovery that helps complete a picture of a water-rich solar system and that could make colonizing our nearest neighbor in space much easier than previously thought.
Using data from three spacecraft that have made close flybys of the moon in recent years, research teams in the United States have found proof that a thin film of water coats the surface of the soil in at least some places on the moon.
"Within the context of lunar science, this is a major discovery," said Paul G. Lucey, a planetary scientist with the University of Hawaii, who was not involved in the current research. "There was zero accepted evidence that there was any water at the lunar surface, [but] now it is shown to be easily detectable, though by extremely sensitive methods. As a lunar scientist, when I read about this I was completely blown away."
The discovery "will forever change how we look at the moon," added Roger Clark, a scientist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Denver and the author of one of three papers -- each dealing with data from a different spacecraft -- appearing in this week's edition of Science magazine.
For decades, the moon had been considered a dead and uninteresting world by scientists. The Apollo missions of the 1960s and '70s brought back some rocks that contained tiny amounts of trapped water, but scientists at the time decided they had been contaminated by water from Earth.
Proponents of human space travel hope this new discovery could put pressure on the White House to follow through with the Bush administration's plans to return to the moon by 2020 and to construct Earth's first off-world colony there.
At the very least, the discovery lends weight to a new view of a friendlier solar system, where water, the lifeblood of biology on Earth, suddenly seems to be everywhere. Last year's Phoenix mission to Mars' polar region found ice just beneath its struts. Ice has been found on Saturn's moon Titan and it covers Jupiter's moon Europa.
Research teams from Brown University, the University of Maryland and the U.S. Geological Survey used spectroscopic measurements taken of the lunar surface by NASA's Cassini and Deep Impact spacecraft, as well as India's Chandrayaan 1 satellite. The instruments on all three spacecraft detected the signature of the OH chemical bond (oxygen and hydrogen) at many places on the lunar surface, including areas subject to daytime temperatures that reach the boiling point of water. The greatest concentrations were found in the coldest regions, however, near the two poles.
Detecting the OH bond is not a sure indicator of water. The instruments could be picking up hydroxyl, which is composed of one oxygen and one hydrogen atom. Water has two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen.
But one of the papers, by research scientists Lori Feaga and Jessica Sunshine of the University of Maryland, found clear evidence for both hydroxyl and water in measurements taken by the Deep Impact spectrometer on June 2 and June 9. "We saw both species," Feaga said.
The amount of water in any one place is tiny. Clark estimated it at about a quart per ton of soil.
The moon "is almost as wet as a bone," Lucey said in an e-mail interview with The Times. "It is in the form of an imperceptible film on soil grains, perhaps several molecules thick."
Unless science makes some technological breakthrough, it would be extremely difficult for future moon colonists to harvest such tiny amounts of water. The research indicates, however, that the water migrates toward the poles -- by literally lifting off the soil particles and drifting north and south -- when the temperature rises during the lunar day. When the water molecules land in a colder area near the poles, they are trapped there in higher concentrations, "perhaps high enough to use," Lucey said.
The question of how much water might have accumulated at the poles could be answered on Oct. 9, when NASA's Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, known as LCROSS, is set to steer a rocket into a south pole crater called Cabeus A. The resulting collision, which will send up a dust cloud two miles above the surface of the moon, will be observed and sampled by satellites and observatories on Earth for evidence of water. Cabeus A was chosen because it is in a perpetual shadow, so any water stored there in the form of ice would not melt.
"The results of the present studies lend credence to the lunar polar water hypothesis by providing a proven source of water on the surface of the moon," Lucey said.
If there is water on the moon, where did it come from? One possibility, according to the research teams, is that the water was deposited by one or more comets colliding with the moon. Another is that meteorites colliding with the moon might have unearthed underground sources of water.
Finally, the solar wind, a stream of charged particles flowing outward from the sun, which is mostly made up of hydrogen and helium, could play a role. The solar wind could supply hydrogen to bind with oxygen in lunar soils.
Perhaps ironically, given how many spacecraft have orbited and landed on the moon in the last five decades, two of the spacecraft that made this discovery had other missions besides observing the moon. Cassini's primary mission was to observe Saturn and its major moons, including the bizarre smog-choked Titan. The measurements of the moon were taken in 1999 as Cassini was on its way to Saturn.
Deep Impact shot a rocket into the comet Tempel 1 in 2005 to find out what a comet is made of, but has since been given other jobs, including rendezvousing with another comet. Chandrayaan 1, India's first moon-orbiting satellite, was launched in October 2008.
All three spacecraft carried spectrometers, which operate by breaking down the light reflected off the surface of the moon. Because every chemical molecule has a different light wavelength signature, scientists analyzing the spectrograph can tell what the surface is made of. The reason the Deep Impact instrument was able to see both water and hydroxyl, Feaga said, was because it has a larger bandwidth than the instruments carried by Cassini and Chandrayaan.
"It is astounding to find water at all latitudes on the moon and in places where the temperature is hotter than boiling water on Earth," Clark said.
The discovery comes at a pivotal time for America's space program. Former President George W. Bush set NASA on an ambitious course to return to the moon by 2020 and then travel on to Mars. But a presidential commission recently found that without a significant increase in its budget, NASA won't be able to reach either goal.
It's unclear how this new discovery will affect the debate in Washington over NASA's future, but the presence of water on the moon would presumably make colonization much easier. Water would not only be valuable for drinking, but it could also be used to make oxygen for breathing and to make rocket fuel for trips to and from Earth.
"Perhaps the most valuable result of these new observations is that they prompt a critical reexamination of the notion that the moon is dry," Lucey said. "It is not."
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We are so small! :-[
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I really think there is no other life out there like us....maybe some plants..microbes....etc. ...maybe some birds or fish..but nothing walking around like us and accomplishing the things we have like planes, cars, spaceflight...I really believe we are unique and that we could even be a mistake.....if not for that asteroid that struck the earth,and wiped out the dinosaurs, they might still be here and we would have never even had the chance to become dominant on this planet
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I think as a species, we would be very naive and arrogant to think that out of all the billions and billions of galaxies we are the only single planet in a singular galaxy to possibly contain "intelligent" beings. :-\
Just cause it's not in the bible doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Hell, I don't remember reading about dinosaurs in the Bible.
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drake equation
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/SETI/drake_equation.html
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Stephen Hawking: E.T., stay home
Aliens may exist but contact would hurt humans: Hawking
LONDON (AFP) – Aliens may exist but mankind should avoid contact with them as the consequences could be devastating, British scientist Stephen Hawking warned Sunday.
"If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans," said the astrophysicist in a new television series, according to British media reports.
The programmes depict an imagined universe featuring alien life forms in huge spaceships on the hunt for resources after draining their own planet dry.
"Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach," warned Hawking.
The doomsday scenario is suggested in the series "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking" on the Discovery Channel, which began airing in the United States on Sunday.
On the probability of alien life existing, he says: "To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational.
"The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."
Glowing squid-like creatures, herds of herbivores that can hang onto a cliff face and bright yellow predators that kill their prey with stinging tails are among the creatures that stalk the scientist's fantastical cosmos.
Mankind has already made a number of attempts to contact extraterrestrial civilisations.
In 2008, American space agency NASA beamed the Beatles song "Across the Universe" into deep space to send a message of peace to any alien that happens to be in the region of Polaris -- also known as the North Star -- in 2439.
But the history of humanity's efforts to contact aliens stretches back some years.
The US probes Pioneer 10 and 11 were launched in 1972 and 1973 bearing plaques of a naked man and woman and symbols seeking to convey the positions of the Earth and the Sun.
Voyager 1 and 2, launched in 1977, each carry a gold-plated copper phonogram disk with recordings of sounds and images on Earth.
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Could have cared less. I said a long while ago if they exist, just come. I'd love to have a chat with them about God.
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this is actually a great thread. I am a firm believer, yet i believe in science.
As my roman catholic priest said in college..."ok let's be real...no human can part a sea...let's be real...but pay attention to the the story that's the point of the story......the story is about "Good" with the big G." "Whether you believe in Buddha, GOD, Allah....etc ..the story is about being the best person you can be...so how can you say that is a bad thing?"
This is the way I see it. Somebody created religion...whether it's a fable or not.......religion is generally a GOOD story on how to be the best person you can be period point blank.
Now there is science which obviously conflicts with religion at times. If you are a SANE human..you SHOULD be able to understand that religion helps no matter what and you can balance it with science. I follow both yet some seem to want to choose sides vs another to negate. I actually add them together. I'm balanced and life is very easy in a lot of areas where most struggle simply because they want to choose a side.
I say be the best you can be and believe and you'll be fine no matter what.
Peace.
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700 new earth like planets were just discovered recently. Pretty ground breaking stuff.
Also the first completely synthetic life form was recently created. Pretty cool shit.
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700 new earth like planets were just discovered recently. Pretty ground breaking stuff.
:o
Hadn't heard about those!! With life/atmosphere/etc like earth? Do you have a link Necro?
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"This is the most Goldilocks planet yet found"
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2010-09-30-planet30_ST_N.htm?csp=hf
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Which faiths?
mostly all those shitty viral religions concocted in the middle east.
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mostly all those shitty viral religions concocted in the middle east.
Do their "Holy Books" deny the possibility of life on other planets?
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Do their "Holy Books" deny the possibility of life on other planets?
I don't know, but the followers seem to have a history of it ;)
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I don't know, but the followers seem to have a history of it ;)
Like what faiths and how?
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yea, are you kidding ::)
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Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets? Do your religious views allow for intelligent life on other planets and the possibility that they might visit earth? Would your faith be tested, affirmed, or undermined by a visit from alien life?
If a planet is too close to a sun it will be too hot to support life as we know it; if a planet is too far from a sun, it will be too cold to support life as we know it. A planet that is not too far away or too close to its sun (like Earth) lies in what astronomers call the Habitable Zone of a star system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitable_zone
Given the amount of stars out there and the amount of planets that must exist in the Habitable Zone, I am certain there is intelligent life on other planets. :)
There should be a planet to where we could send scum like you!
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There should be a planet to where we could send scum like you!
what do you mean scum like him? He's been one of the coolest posters here. Usually civil and articulate. You mean because he's questioning things here or do you want him banished because he's... not like you ::) Sounds like the land of the free to me, do explain...
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yea, are you kidding ::)
No....I don't know which one (s?) you are talking about ???
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Jacques Fabrice Vallée ( born September 24, 1939, Pontoise, Val-d'Oise ) is a French-born venture capitalist, computer scientist, author, ufologist and former astronomer. He currently resides in San Francisco, California in the United States. (He should not be confused with the Canadian astronomer Jacques Paul Vallée. )
In mainstream science, Vallée is notable for co-developing the first computerized mapping of Mars for NASA and for his work at SRI International in creating ARPANET, a precursor to the modern Internet. Vallée is also an important figure in the study of unidentified flying objects (UFOs), first noted for a defense of the scientific legitimacy of the extraterrestrial hypothesis and later for promoting the Interdimensional hypothesis similar partly to Mac Tonnies cryptoterrestrial hypothesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e
Vallée proposes that there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, partly associated with a form of non-human consciousness that manipulates space and time. The phenomenon has been active throughout human history, and seems to masquerade in various forms to different cultures. In his opinion, the intelligence behind the phenomenon attempts social manipulation by using deception on the humans with whom they interact.
Vallée also proposes that a secondary aspect of the UFO phenomenon involves human manipulation by humans. Witnesses of UFO phenomena undergo a manipulative and staged spectacle, meant to alter their belief system, and eventually, influence human society by suggesting alien intervention from outer space. The ultimate motivation for this deception is probably a projected major change of human society, the breaking down of old belief systems and the implementation of new ones. Vallée states that the evidence, if carefully analysed, suggests an underlying plan for the deception of mankind by means of unknown, highly advanced methods. Vallee states that it is highly unlikely that governments actually conceal alien evidence, as the popular myth suggests. Rather, it is much more likely that that is exactly what the manipulators want us to believe. Vallée feels the entire subject of UFOs is mystified by charlatans and science fiction. He advocates a stronger and more serious involvement of science in the UFO research and debate. Only this can reveal the true nature of the UFO phenomenon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallee#Interpretation_of_the_UFO_evidence
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Jacques Fabrice Vallée ( born September 24, 1939, Pontoise, Val-d'Oise ) is a French-born venture capitalist, computer scientist, author, ufologist and former astronomer. He currently resides in San Francisco, California in the United States. (He should not be confused with the Canadian astronomer Jacques Paul Vallée. )
In mainstream science, Vallée is notable for co-developing the first computerized mapping of Mars for NASA and for his work at SRI International in creating ARPANET, a precursor to the modern Internet. Vallée is also an important figure in the study of unidentified flying objects (UFOs), first noted for a defense of the scientific legitimacy of the extraterrestrial hypothesis and later for promoting the Interdimensional hypothesis similar partly to Mac Tonnies cryptoterrestrial hypothesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e
Vallée proposes that there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, partly associated with a form of non-human consciousness that manipulates space and time. The phenomenon has been active throughout human history, and seems to masquerade in various forms to different cultures. In his opinion, the intelligence behind the phenomenon attempts social manipulation by using deception on the humans with whom they interact.
Vallée also proposes that a secondary aspect of the UFO phenomenon involves human manipulation by humans. Witnesses of UFO phenomena undergo a manipulative and staged spectacle, meant to alter their belief system, and eventually, influence human society by suggesting alien intervention from outer space. The ultimate motivation for this deception is probably a projected major change of human society, the breaking down of old belief systems and the implementation of new ones. Vallée states that the evidence, if carefully analysed, suggests an underlying plan for the deception of mankind by means of unknown, highly advanced methods. Vallee states that it is highly unlikely that governments actually conceal alien evidence, as the popular myth suggests. Rather, it is much more likely that that is exactly what the manipulators want us to believe. Vallée feels the entire subject of UFOs is mystified by charlatans and science fiction. He advocates a stronger and more serious involvement of science in the UFO research and debate. Only this can reveal the true nature of the UFO phenomenon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallee#Interpretation_of_the_UFO_evidence
Interesting considering the recent UFO disclosure conference!
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Interesting considering the recent UFO disclosure conference!
What I find interesting about Jacques Fabrice Vallée's theory on UFO's is that he is a mainstream scientist, hardly a religious man, yet he seems to be describing demons when talking about UFOs. And he believes that they are not from outer space, but rather from another time or from another dimension. :o
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One theory i think about sometimes.........beside s the whole " GOD, DEVIL, HEAVEN, HELL", Is ASTROLOGY. Look at your ZODIAC SIGN. Theres a PLANET thats associated with every ZODIAC SIGN. For example, im a LIBRA, LIBRAs are associated with the planet VENUS, i believe. One theory i been thinking about is maybe, when we die............we simply leave PLANET EARTH and go too the planet our ZODIAC SIGNS are linked too..........just some FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
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One theory i think about sometimes.........beside s the whole " GOD, DEVIL, HEAVEN, HELL", Is ASTROLOGY. Look at your ZODIAC SIGN. Theres a PLANET thats associated with every ZODIAC SIGN. For example, im a LIBRA, LIBRAs are associated with the planet VENUS, i believe. One theory i been thinking about is maybe, when we die............we simply leave PLANET EARTH and go too the planet our ZODIAC SIGNS are linked too..........just some FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
Sounds like Mormon doctrine...no joke!
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Sounds like Mormon doctrine...no joke!
I thought the Mormon doctrine was something about when they die they rule their own planet.
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I thought the Mormon doctrine was something about when they die they rule their own planet.
Something like that. We originally came here from another planet, and when we die we go to another planet.
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I dont follow the mormon religion-(worldly religion), soo i wouldnt know if thats something they speak about.
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I dont follow the mormon religion-(worldly religion), soo i wouldnt know if thats something they speak about.
I didn't say you did. I figured you had no idea. Just pointing out that the Mormons believe something similar to your theory. Battlestar Galactica is a Mormon show by the way, and a very entertaining show I'll admit!
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I thought the Mormon doctrine was something about when they die they rule their own planet.
I think it's more like they go to different levels of Heaven ... the "better" you are the higher you get
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Cartoon Banned by Mormon Church
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God was once a man who lived on another planet
This is the most important teaching of Mormonism. Nothing else comes close to it. We believe that God was once a mortal man on another planet who progressed by living in obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel he had on his world, then he died. He became a resurrected man and evolved to become a god. He is still married now (some early leaders say he is a polygamist) and created this world. We worship only the one true god, which is really one god among millions or billions or more. We believe that we will follow in God's footsteps by becoming perfect and we too will become Gods and Goddesses creating spirit children and peopling other worlds. The Mormon TV commercials showing family togetherness is the foundation for life in the next world - as a family - as gods.
Mormons believe that this life is only one part of an eternal existence. Life will continue but it is not known by anyone exactly what that life will be like. However the purpose of this life is to determine our station in the next. Mormons believe there are degrees of glory rewarded after the Judgment, according to the faith and obedience of the person during their life (John 14:2; 1 Corinthians 15:40-41). The glories of heaven differ like the glory of the sun differs from the moon, and the moon from the stars. Everyone will receive some degree of glory, but only the faithful will receive the highest glory with the possibility to become like God. Mormons also believe that all people who ever lived will have the opportunity to accept Jesus Christ and thus inherit the greatest kingdom of God. After death all go to a spirit world where they associate with others who have lived on earth. Here, believers of Christ preach the gospel to those who did not receive it in life, and those that accept it can be saved by having the ordinances of salvation performed for them by proxy on earth. This is the Mormon practice of baptism for the dead, which is performed in Mormon temples.
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w8m8,
I didn't know you were a Mormon. :)
We worship only the one true god, which is really one god among millions or billions or more.
Isn't this a contradiction?
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w8m8,
I didn't know you were a Mormon. :)
Isn't this a contradiction?
I'm not anything ... I know a few Mormons and have always been interested in knowing about all religions ... I e-mailed a friend and they sent me those paragraphs .. regarding what occurs after death
I think the part you quoted can be taken as a contradiction .. but as I understand it they do believe that many Gods exist and theirs is the one true God
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I'm not anything ... I know a few Mormons and have always been interested in knowing about all religions ... I e-mailed a friend and they sent me those paragraphs .. regarding what occurs after death
I think the part you quoted can be taken as a contradiction .. but as I understand it they do believe that many Gods exist and theirs is the one true God
Thanks for getting us this info!
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I'm not anything ... I know a few Mormons and have always been interested in knowing about all religions ... I e-mailed a friend and they sent me those paragraphs .. regarding what occurs after death
I think the part you quoted can be taken as a contradiction .. but as I understand it they do believe that many Gods exist and theirs is the one true God
thats typical of a WORLDLY RELIGION. Every religion believes that " thier GOD is the one TRUE GOD." In my opinion, thats one reason why all these wars are fought in the middle east.......
DERKA DERKA'S= " our GOD is the one true GOD........"
SHISH KA BOBS= " NO NO NO............OUR god is the one true GOD,"
then they end up going to war with each other.............
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Thanks for getting us this info!
You're welcome .. I enjoy reading the discussions
thats typical of a WORLDLY RELIGION. Every religion believes that " thier GOD is the one TRUE GOD." In my opinion, thats one reason why all these wars are fought in the middle east.......
DERKA DERKA'S= " our GOD is the one true GOD........"
SHISH KA BOBS= " NO NO NO............OUR god is the one true GOD,"
then they end up going to war with each other.............
one reason .. I agree .... it's also power and greed .. with some hatred for others mixed in
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Is the Rocky Alien Planet Gliese 581d Really Habitable?
Space.com
Tue May 17, 5:30 pm ET
A rocky alien planet called Gliese 581d may be the first known world beyond Earth capable of supporting life as we know it, a new study suggests.
Astronomers performing a new atmospheric-modeling study have found that the planet likely lies in the "habitable zone" of its host star — that just-right range of distances that allow liquid water to exist. The alien world could be Earth-like in key ways, harboring oceans, clouds and rainfall, according to the research.
This conclusion is consistent with several other recent modeling studies. But it does not definitively establish that life-sustaining water flows across the planet's surface.
The new study assumes that Gliese 581d, which is about seven times as massive as Earth, has a thick, carbon-dioxide-based atmosphere. That's very possible on a planet so large, researchers said, but it's not a given.
Gliese 581d's parent star, known as Gliese 581, is a red dwarf located 20 light-years from Earth, just a stone's throw in the cosmic scheme of things. So far, astronomers have detected six planets orbiting the star, and Gliese 581d is not the only one intriguing to scientists thinking about the possibility of life beyond Earth.
Another planet in the system, called Gliese 581g, is about three times as massive as Earth, and it's also most likely a rocky world. This planet received a lot of attention when its discovery was announced in September 2010, because it's located right in the middle of the habitable zone. That makes 581g a prime candidate for liquid water and life as we know it — if the planet exists.
Some researchers question the analysis used to discover the planet, and say they cannot confirm 581g in follow-up studies. The planet's discoverers, however, are standing by their find.
Gliese 581d orbits outside of 581g, far enough away from its star that researchers first thought it too cold for life when it was originally discovered in 2007. But a strong greenhouse effect may warm 581d up substantially, perhaps enough to support liquid water.
That's the tentative conclusion of the new study, as well as several other recent studies by different research teams that also modeled Gliese 581d's possible atmosphere.
The planet Gliese 581d receives less than a third of the solar energy that Earth does from our sun, and it may be tidally locked (a situation in which one side of the world always faces its sun — a permanent day — and the other faces away, producing eternal night).
After Gliese 581d's discovery, it was generally believed that any atmosphere thick enough to keep the planet warm would become cold enough on the night side to freeze out entirely, ruining any prospects for a habitable climate, researchers said.
The research team tested that possibility in the new study, developing a new kind of computer model that simulates alien planets' atmospheres and surfaces in three dimensions. The model is similar to those used to study climate change on Earth.
When the team ran the model, they found that Gliese 581d probably can indeed host liquid water if it has a dense carbon dioxide atmosphere. Even though the planet is relatively far away from its dim red dwarf parent star, it could be warmed by a greenhouse effect, with daytime heat circulated around the planet by the atmosphere.
The work remains speculative.
To determine conclusively if Gliese 581d is truly habitable, future work will probably have to detect and characterize its atmosphere directly. And that is likely years off, since it requires the development of new and advanced telescopes. Human-made probes won't be getting to the planet anytime soon; with current technology, it would take spacecraft hundreds of thousands of years to make the 20-light-year trek.
The team, led by scientists from the Laboratoire de Métrologie Dynamique (CNRS/UPMC/ENS/Ecole Polytechnique) at the Institut Pierre Simon Laplace in Paris, France, published their results in The Astrophysical Journal Letters.
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