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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2009, 07:02:58 PM »
You got the joke, you are indeed a funny guy!

are all your post's a joke?never mind I know the answer.
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2009, 03:34:36 PM »
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2009, 03:46:28 PM »
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this question scares alot of faith based individuals.hence the lack of responses.
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2009, 09:17:02 PM »
If, and i believe more likely when, we find life, no matter how miniscule, it will and should squash all belief in a creator god. Gods will was 2 be done on this earth, to acount for sin entering. There would be no need of proving it again

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2009, 06:48:32 PM »
this question scares alot of faith based individuals.

Which faiths? 
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2009, 09:17:22 AM »
Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?  Do your religious views allow for intelligent life on other planets and the possibility that they might visit earth?  Would your faith be tested, affirmed, or undermined by a visit from alien life?



If a planet is too close to a sun it will be too hot to support life as we know it; if a planet is too far from a sun, it will be too cold to support life as we know it.  A planet that is not too far away or too close to its sun (like Earth) lies in what astronomers call the Habitable Zone of a star system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitable_zone

Given the amount of stars out there and the amount of planets that must exist in the Habitable Zone, I am certain there is intelligent life on other planets. :)

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2009, 10:05:40 PM »
Evidence suggests water exists on the moon
Data from three spacecraft indicate that a thin film of water coats the surface of the soil in at least some spots, a discovery that raises the possibility of colonization.
By John Johnson Jr.

Space scientists have found the strongest evidence yet that water exists on the moon, a discovery that helps complete a picture of a water-rich solar system and that could make colonizing our nearest neighbor in space much easier than previously thought.

Using data from three spacecraft that have made close flybys of the moon in recent years, research teams in the United States have found proof that a thin film of water coats the surface of the soil in at least some places on the moon.

"Within the context of lunar science, this is a major discovery," said Paul G. Lucey, a planetary scientist with the University of Hawaii, who was not involved in the current research. "There was zero accepted evidence that there was any water at the lunar surface, [but] now it is shown to be easily detectable, though by extremely sensitive methods. As a lunar scientist, when I read about this I was completely blown away."

The discovery "will forever change how we look at the moon," added Roger Clark, a scientist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Denver and the author of one of three papers -- each dealing with data from a different spacecraft -- appearing in this week's edition of Science magazine.

For decades, the moon had been considered a dead and uninteresting world by scientists. The Apollo missions of the 1960s and '70s brought back some rocks that contained tiny amounts of trapped water, but scientists at the time decided they had been contaminated by water from Earth.

Proponents of human space travel hope this new discovery could put pressure on the White House to follow through with the Bush administration's plans to return to the moon by 2020 and to construct Earth's first off-world colony there.

At the very least, the discovery lends weight to a new view of a friendlier solar system, where water, the lifeblood of biology on Earth, suddenly seems to be everywhere. Last year's Phoenix mission to Mars' polar region found ice just beneath its struts. Ice has been found on Saturn's moon Titan and it covers Jupiter's moon Europa.

Research teams from Brown University, the University of Maryland and the U.S. Geological Survey used spectroscopic measurements taken of the lunar surface by NASA's Cassini and Deep Impact spacecraft, as well as India's Chandrayaan 1 satellite. The instruments on all three spacecraft detected the signature of the OH chemical bond (oxygen and hydrogen) at many places on the lunar surface, including areas subject to daytime temperatures that reach the boiling point of water. The greatest concentrations were found in the coldest regions, however, near the two poles.

Detecting the OH bond is not a sure indicator of water. The instruments could be picking up hydroxyl, which is composed of one oxygen and one hydrogen atom. Water has two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen.

But one of the papers, by research scientists Lori Feaga and Jessica Sunshine of the University of Maryland, found clear evidence for both hydroxyl and water in measurements taken by the Deep Impact spectrometer on June 2 and June 9. "We saw both species," Feaga said.

The amount of water in any one place is tiny. Clark estimated it at about a quart per ton of soil.

The moon "is almost as wet as a bone," Lucey said in an e-mail interview with The Times. "It is in the form of an imperceptible film on soil grains, perhaps several molecules thick."

Unless science makes some technological breakthrough, it would be extremely difficult for future moon colonists to harvest such tiny amounts of water. The research indicates, however, that the water migrates toward the poles -- by literally lifting off the soil particles and drifting north and south -- when the temperature rises during the lunar day. When the water molecules land in a colder area near the poles, they are trapped there in higher concentrations, "perhaps high enough to use," Lucey said.

The question of how much water might have accumulated at the poles could be answered on Oct. 9, when NASA's Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, known as LCROSS, is set to steer a rocket into a south pole crater called Cabeus A. The resulting collision, which will send up a dust cloud two miles above the surface of the moon, will be observed and sampled by satellites and observatories on Earth for evidence of water. Cabeus A was chosen because it is in a perpetual shadow, so any water stored there in the form of ice would not melt.

"The results of the present studies lend credence to the lunar polar water hypothesis by providing a proven source of water on the surface of the moon," Lucey said.

If there is water on the moon, where did it come from? One possibility, according to the research teams, is that the water was deposited by one or more comets colliding with the moon. Another is that meteorites colliding with the moon might have unearthed underground sources of water.

Finally, the solar wind, a stream of charged particles flowing outward from the sun, which is mostly made up of hydrogen and helium, could play a role. The solar wind could supply hydrogen to bind with oxygen in lunar soils.

Perhaps ironically, given how many spacecraft have orbited and landed on the moon in the last five decades, two of the spacecraft that made this discovery had other missions besides observing the moon. Cassini's primary mission was to observe Saturn and its major moons, including the bizarre smog-choked Titan. The measurements of the moon were taken in 1999 as Cassini was on its way to Saturn.

Deep Impact shot a rocket into the comet Tempel 1 in 2005 to find out what a comet is made of, but has since been given other jobs, including rendezvousing with another comet. Chandrayaan 1, India's first moon-orbiting satellite, was launched in October 2008.

All three spacecraft carried spectrometers, which operate by breaking down the light reflected off the surface of the moon. Because every chemical molecule has a different light wavelength signature, scientists analyzing the spectrograph can tell what the surface is made of. The reason the Deep Impact instrument was able to see both water and hydroxyl, Feaga said, was because it has a larger bandwidth than the instruments carried by Cassini and Chandrayaan.

"It is astounding to find water at all latitudes on the moon and in places where the temperature is hotter than boiling water on Earth," Clark said.

The discovery comes at a pivotal time for America's space program. Former President George W. Bush set NASA on an ambitious course to return to the moon by 2020 and then travel on to Mars. But a presidential commission recently found that without a significant increase in its budget, NASA won't be able to reach either goal.

It's unclear how this new discovery will affect the debate in Washington over NASA's future, but the presence of water on the moon would presumably make colonization much easier. Water would not only be valuable for drinking, but it could also be used to make oxygen for breathing and to make rocket fuel for trips to and from Earth.

"Perhaps the most valuable result of these new observations is that they prompt a critical reexamination of the notion that the moon is dry," Lucey said. "It is not."

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2009, 02:01:35 PM »
We are so small!   :-[






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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2010, 11:48:39 AM »
I really think there is no other life out there like us....maybe some plants..microbes....etc. ...maybe some birds or fish..but nothing walking around like us and accomplishing the things we have like planes, cars, spaceflight...I really believe we are unique and that we could even be a mistake.....if not for that asteroid that struck the earth,and wiped out the dinosaurs, they might still be here and we would have never even had the chance to become dominant on this planet

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2010, 04:50:52 PM »
I think as a species, we would be very naive and arrogant to think that out of all the billions and billions of galaxies we are the only single planet in a singular galaxy to possibly contain "intelligent" beings. :-\

Just cause it's not in the bible doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Hell, I don't remember reading about dinosaurs in the Bible.

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2010, 10:03:38 AM »
Stephen Hawking: E.T., stay home
Aliens may exist but contact would hurt humans: Hawking

LONDON (AFP) – Aliens may exist but mankind should avoid contact with them as the consequences could be devastating, British scientist Stephen Hawking warned Sunday.

"If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans," said the astrophysicist in a new television series, according to British media reports.

The programmes depict an imagined universe featuring alien life forms in huge spaceships on the hunt for resources after draining their own planet dry.

"Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach," warned Hawking.

The doomsday scenario is suggested in the series "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking" on the Discovery Channel, which began airing in the United States on Sunday.

On the probability of alien life existing, he says: "To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational.
"The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."

Glowing squid-like creatures, herds of herbivores that can hang onto a cliff face and bright yellow predators that kill their prey with stinging tails are among the creatures that stalk the scientist's fantastical cosmos.

Mankind has already made a number of attempts to contact extraterrestrial civilisations.

In 2008, American space agency NASA beamed the Beatles song "Across the Universe" into deep space to send a message of peace to any alien that happens to be in the region of Polaris -- also known as the North Star -- in 2439.

But the history of humanity's efforts to contact aliens stretches back some years.

The US probes Pioneer 10 and 11 were launched in 1972 and 1973 bearing plaques of a naked man and woman and symbols seeking to convey the positions of the Earth and the Sun.

Voyager 1 and 2, launched in 1977, each carry a gold-plated copper phonogram disk with recordings of sounds and images on Earth.

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2010, 10:06:43 AM »
 Could have cared less. I said a long while ago if they exist, just come. I'd love to have a chat with them about God.

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2010, 09:10:18 PM »
this is actually a great thread. I am a firm believer, yet i believe in science.

As my roman catholic priest said in college..."ok let's be real...no human can part a sea...let's be real...but pay attention to the the story that's the point of the story......the story is about "Good" with the big G." "Whether you believe in Buddha, GOD, Allah....etc ..the story is about being the best person you can be...so how can you say that is a bad thing?"

This is the way I see it. Somebody created religion...whether it's a fable or not.......religion is generally a GOOD story on how to be the best person you can be period point blank.

Now there is science which obviously conflicts with religion at times. If you are a SANE human..you SHOULD be able to understand that religion helps no matter what and you can balance it with science. I follow both yet some seem to want to choose sides vs another to negate. I actually add them together. I'm balanced and life is very easy in a lot of areas where most struggle simply because they want to choose a side.

I say be the best you can be and believe and you'll be fine no matter what.

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2010, 09:01:57 AM »
700 new earth like planets were just discovered recently. Pretty ground breaking stuff.

Also the first completely synthetic life form was recently created. Pretty cool shit.

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2010, 10:22:04 AM »
700 new earth like planets were just discovered recently. Pretty ground breaking stuff.


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Hadn't heard about those!!  With life/atmosphere/etc like earth?    Do you have a link Necro?
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2010, 07:10:46 AM »

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2010, 07:13:30 AM »
Which faiths?  
mostly all those shitty viral religions concocted in the middle east.

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2010, 07:18:38 AM »
mostly all those shitty viral religions concocted in the middle east.

Do their "Holy Books" deny the possibility of life on other planets?
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2010, 07:26:03 AM »
Do their "Holy Books" deny the possibility of life on other planets?
I don't know, but the followers seem to have a history of it ;)

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2010, 07:33:49 AM »
I don't know, but the followers seem to have a history of it ;)

Like what faiths and how? 
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2010, 09:37:29 AM »
yea, are you kidding ::)

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2010, 10:45:28 AM »
Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?  Do your religious views allow for intelligent life on other planets and the possibility that they might visit earth?  Would your faith be tested, affirmed, or undermined by a visit from alien life?



If a planet is too close to a sun it will be too hot to support life as we know it; if a planet is too far from a sun, it will be too cold to support life as we know it.  A planet that is not too far away or too close to its sun (like Earth) lies in what astronomers call the Habitable Zone of a star system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitable_zone

Given the amount of stars out there and the amount of planets that must exist in the Habitable Zone, I am certain there is intelligent life on other planets. :)
There should be a planet to where we could send scum like you!
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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2010, 08:02:33 AM »
There should be a planet to where we could send scum like you!
what do you mean scum like him?  He's been one of the coolest posters here. Usually civil and articulate.  You mean because he's questioning things here or do you want him banished because he's... not like you ::)  Sounds like the land of the free to me, do explain...

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Re: Do people of faith believe there is life on other planets?
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2010, 09:50:18 AM »
yea, are you kidding ::)

No....I don't know which one (s?) you are talking about  ???
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