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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Topskin69 on August 03, 2009, 12:57:12 PM
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To my fellow Getbiggers living in the Golden State. Our very own Chick claims that you can just waltz into any pharmacy in California and pick up Humalog. I say that this is total bullshit, but since I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, I was wondering if anyone else here has had any luck in just walking in, buying Insulin, and walking out....no questions asked. Assuming that you are a California resident of course.
If there is acully anyone else that has pulled this off, and can convince me....I will formally aplogize to Chick, for my ignorance.
M!
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To my fellow Getbiggers living in the Golden State. Our very own Chick claims that you can just waltz into any pharmacy in California and pick up Humalog. I say that this is total bullshit, but since I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, I was wondering if anyone else here has had any luck in just walking in, buying Insulin, and walking out....no questions asked. Assuming that you are a California resident of course.
If there is acully anyone else that has pulled this off, and can convine me....I will formally aplogize to Chick, for my ignorance.
M!
bullshit. He meant heading to TJ and walking into any pharma and getting it. At that point it's up to you how to bring it back to the USA.
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bullshit. He meant heading to TJ and walking into any pharma and getting it. At that point it's up to you how to bring it back to the USA.
Spot on - you can get anything in MEX you want no questions asked
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Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
No...Chick was talking out of his ass..and was refering to getting in in a Pharmacy in Cali..I will use these quotes as evidence.
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Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
Another....
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To my fellow Getbiggers living in the Golden State. Our very own Chick claims that you can just waltz into any pharmacy in California and pick up Humalog. I say that this is total bullshit, but since I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, I was wondering if anyone else here has had any luck in just walking in, buying Insulin, and walking out....no questions asked. Assuming that you are a California resident of course.
If there is acully anyone else that has pulled this off, and can convine me....I will formally aplogize to Chick, for my ignorance.
M!
One of my old training partners told me the same thing (as chick). He said they might ask if he's diabetic but that would be it, no other problems getting it.
This was over five years ago though, laws might've changed.
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Humalin or another of the slower acting Slins may have been feasible at one point in Cali...but to get HUMALOG...which is what Chick claims...without a script...is highly dubious...as I have pointed out before..there were many people in Venice, (where Slin is all the rage at the moment), trying to pick up Humalog...with no luck.
Again..I would be curious to see if anyone else on this site...has just walked into a pharmacy in Cali...and bought some...with no problems.
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One of my old training partners told me the same thing (as chick). He said they might ask if he's diabetic but that would be it, no other problems getting it.
This was over five years ago though, laws might've changed.
Guess this guy's word isn't good enough
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Guess this guy's word isn't good enough
guess you and some other geek is not enough against all of california against you...
Where do you get your testosterone and other steroids from? Also from a "pharmacy"??
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guess you and some other geek is not enough against all of california against you...
Where do you get your testosterone and other steroids from? Also from a "pharmacy"??
At the time, I had a script for it, so yes...a pharmacy
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Its only gay if you want it to be
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At the time, I had a script for it, so yes...a pharmacy
::) ::) ::)
You know as good as i know that you need much more than any doc would prescribe, and that there are enough roids you have injected into your ass that you could never buy in a pharmacy.
You're like a kid smeared in chocolate lying about he has never touched the cookie jar.
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::) ::) ::)
You know as good as i know that you need much more than any doc would prescribe, and that there are enough roids you have injected into your ass that you could never buy in a pharmacy.
You're like a kid smeared in chocolate lying about he has never touched the cookie jar.
Believe what you want...I dont give a fuck what you think
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If you have your diabetic tags, they are obligated to give it to you. If you are truly diabetic and you are out of insulin, refusing to render it would be a huge liability for a pharmacy, especially if you went into diabetic coma right there in front of them....
They will want some kind of proof. You can't just run in there in your string tanktop all pumped up saying "I need insulin"
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Believe what you want...I dont give a fuck what you think
ahahahaaha, you're a pathetic liar, Chick.
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::) ::) ::)
You know as good as i know that you need much more than any doc would prescribe, and that there are enough roids you have injected into your ass that you could never buy in a pharmacy.
You're like a kid smeared in chocolate lying about he has never touched the cookie jar.
Maybe he walked to 12 different doctors and told everyone of them he had a deficiency in Testosterone, so he got 12 prescriptions.
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Maybe he walked to 12 different doctors and told everyone of them he had a deficiency in Testosterone, so he got 12 prescriptions.
and you will also tell me where he got the other roids from, which he had to stack to the testosterone?
And the Arimidex, Nolva, Clomid, HGH, T3, and all the other shit he needs to be able to step onto an IFBB stage?
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and you will also tell me where he got the other roids from, which he had to stack to the testosterone?
And the Arimidex, Nolva, Clomid, HGH, T3, and all the other shit he needs to be able to step onto an IFBB stage?
all obtainable without a prescription in Cali.
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all obtainable without a prescription in Cali.
at walmart, or Costco.
take 3 get one free! If you show your IFBB member card, you get some DNP from the gardening compartment for free.
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A true story that will further bury Chick.....
Cathy LeFrancois boyfriend is a diebetic, and needed some more insulin picked up, so one day while Cathy was running some errands she went to go refill his perscription, (mind you he wasnt even taking Humalog at the time..I think it was a slower acting form of slin), and the pharmacy gave her the third degree. They accused her of just wanting it for bodybuilding purposes...so she had to give them some ample verbal abuse, and provide proof that her boyfriend was in fact a diabetic.
But im sure Chick just waltzed into the CVS on main st, wearing a BBing.com tank top, and grabbed some Humalog...with no problems ::)
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???
I still live in Cali, and if I walk right into a pharmacy asked for humalog - can I use you as reference and say - the same humalog Bob is getting here...?
Can you give me an address?
And...Bob...when you tell someone:
"Of course you doubt it, because you don't know what you're talking about.
Educate yourself"
Make sure you have you facts straight :-X
Oh and Chick...even Milos says your full of shit. Just sayin...
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A true story that will further bury Chick.....
Cathy LeFrancois boyfriend is a diebetic, and needed some more insulin picked up, so one day while Cathy was running some errands she went to go refill his perscription, (mind you he wasnt even taking Humalog at the time..I think it was a slower acting form of slin), and the pharmacy gave her the third degree. They accused her of just wanting it for bodybuilding purposes...so she had to give them some ample verbal abuse, and provide proof that her boyfriend was in fact a diabetic.
But im sure Chick just waltzed into the CVS on main st, wearing a BBing.com tank top, and grabbed some Humalog...with no problems ::)
"And pack me some Testosterone, Trenbolone, Deca, Stanozolol, T3, Somatropine and some Aspirine with that!"
::) ::)
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"And pack me some Testosterone, Trenbolone, Deca, Stanozolol, T3, Somatropine and some Aspirine with that!"
::) ::)
Lmao... I could just see Chick going... "Hey bro...I just got back from my ranch...and my Cattle are out of tren, and wouldnt you know it, my prize race horses need some Equipoise...hook it up!"
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"And pack me some Testosterone, Trenbolone, Deca, Stanozolol, T3, Somatropine and some Aspirine with that!"
::) ::)
lmao ;D ;D
P.S. There is no Trenbolone in human medicine anymore for more than 10 years.
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YOU CAN NOT BUY HUMALOG IN CALI!!! I tried LOL ....
This poor guy tried...guess he just didnt have Chicks movie star good looks, or charisma.
M!
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This poor guy tried...guess he just didnt have Chicks movie star good looks, or charisma.
M!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=223684.0;attach=262060;image)
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So is there no one that can take this challenge? Is anyone willing to walk into a pharmacy this week and try and buy Humalog? Or is there anyone here that has done so, (without a script)?
M!
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You can get it, but you need a prescription from someone.
What is Humalog?
Humalog is used to treat type 1 (insulin-dependent) diabetes in adults. Insulin lispro is a fast-acting form of insulin. It is usually given together with another long-acting insulin. It works by lowering levels of glucose in the blood.
Humalog is also used together with oral (taken by mouth) medications to treat type 2 (non insulin-dependent) diabetes in adults.
Humalog may also be used for other purposes not listed here.
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Wow Chick...even Ron is owning you... :-\
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Chick could get Tren at the livestock supply store...
if'n he went in with his cowboy hat on.
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i walked in to cvs and bought humulin r with NO rx...$30.00
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PED
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Wow Chick...even Ron is owning you... :-\
Yeah...really getting "owned" here by anonynous fools on Getbig...telling me what I did or didn't do...LOL
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Yeah...really getting "owned" here by anonynous fools on Getbig...telling me what I did or didn't do...LOL
You cant be serious Chick...even Milos says that you are full of shit regarding this. You basically stuck your foot in your mouth and are digging yourself into a bigger hole by trying to continue to play coy. There is no way in hell you just walked into a pharmacy in Cali...and bought Humalog without a script....you have about as much of a chance of landing a lead role in a David Lynch film, as you do pulling off that stunt.
Just tell the truth...how hard is that? Really? Just admit that there is no way one can possibly step onto an IFBB stage without breaking the law...unless your name is Joycelin, or Ken Jones. This is obvious to anyone with half a brain....but apparently you wish to continue to insult our collective intelligences... *sigh*
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Chick is not the sharpest knife in the kitchen ::)
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Chick is not the sharpest knife in the kitchen ::)
Seems he may have a loss of memory at times (mirage hotel) is one example
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Seems he may have a loss of memory at times (mirage hotel) is one example
He also has the uncanny ability to answer questions with a question, thereby always skirting the issue or topic at hand ::)
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when do the lies end bob w u
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You cant be serious Chick...even Milos says that you are full of shit regarding this. You basically stuck your foot in your mouth and are digging yourself into a bigger hole by trying to continue to play coy. There is no way in hell you just walked into a pharmacy in Cali...and bought Humalog without a script....you have about as much of a chance of landing a lead role in a David Lynch film, as you do pulling off that stunt.
Just tell the truth...how hard is that? Really? Just admit that there is no way one can possibly step onto an IFBB stage without breaking the law...unless your name is Joycelin, or Ken Jones. This is obvious to anyone with half a brain....but apparently you wish to continue to insult our collective intelligences... *sigh*
Well...if Milos says so, then who can argue with the "voice of reason"?
As for your "collective intelligence".....LOL
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lmao ;D ;D
P.S. There is no Trenbolone in human medicine anymore for more than 10 years.
i know, that's why it's utter Bullshit that Chick gets any prescriptions.
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Lmao... I could just see Chick going... "Hey bro...I just got back from my ranch...and my Cattle are out of tren, and wouldnt you know it, my prize race horses need some Equipoise...hook it up!"
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LMAO!!
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Maybe they all saw Dodgeball
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Well...if Milos says so, then who can argue with the "voice of reason"?
As for your "collective intelligence".....LOL
Your continued skirting the issue is only making you look like a buffoon, and while Milos is a clown in his own right, he has far more credibility then you ever will. Unlike others around here...I just don't try and give you a hard time, just for the sake of giving you a hard time. However since you insist on pissing on our legs, and telling us its raining, I will continue to call you out for the liar that you are. Is it really that hard to admit that you broke the law? Even when it was a stupid law to begin with, that wasn't worth honoring?
I don't dislike you Chick.... I have met you a few times, and I think that you are a nice enough guy, but its hard to respect someone that will just blatantly lie, even when he has no good reason for doing so.
M!
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lots of people yapping round chick
like little puppies round the alpha male
he is about the last pro that posts on here
stop begging him for attention like a bunch of homos
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I am a diabetic, been one for 22 years. Insulin R and NPH can be putchased with out a perscription. However Humilog and Lantus need perscriptions. I did not read this whole thread but if Chick is saying he bought some Humilog without a scrip he is wrong or just had a hook up at the pharm. In TJ, Humilog is 37-42 bucks up here it is 105 at the CVS across from the Firehouse.
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Oh shit. Sorry did not know I was on Madmax6's account. Dave has nothing to do with this post. BODYBYRXII
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I am a diabetic, been one for 22 years. Insulin R and NPH can be putchased with out a perscription. However Humilog and Lantus need perscriptions. I did not read this whole thread but if Chick is saying he bought some Humilog without a scrip he is wrong or just had a hook up at the pharm. In TJ, Humilog is 37-42 bucks up here it is 105 at the CVS across from the Firehouse.
Right on, brotherman...
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So then Chick, you're saying you had a hookup at the pharm?
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So then Chick, you're saying you had a hookup at the pharm?
An illegal hookup? :o
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An illegal hookup? :o
Doesn't matter what I had...
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Doesn't matter what I had...
Pharmacist Code of Ethics & Oath - Pharmacy Pledge & Sworn Statement
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Doesn't matter what I had...
Such a role model for the kids. :)
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Doesn't matter what I had...
Wow if you keep sinking any deeper....good grief... even Scott says you are a ethier a liar or you broke the law.
This entire debacle started because you kept insisting that you never broke the law in what you had to do for your competitive career, and now you have dug such a deep hole for yourself that you are backpeddling into saying that you did in fact break the law.
The ENTIRE POINT of my getting on you about this was just to admit this basic truth...and now you have even though you didnt want to.
You ethier broke the law by buying humalog with an illegal hook up, or you bought it off a dealer. Either way its still illegal...
Game over Chick
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Pharmacist Code of Ethics & Oath - Pharmacy Pledge & Sworn Statement
I'm not a pharmacist
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Wow if you keep sinking any deeper....good grief... even Scott says you are a ethier a liar or you broke the law.
This entire debacle started because you kept insisting that you never broke the law in what you had to do for your competitive career, and now you have dug such a deep hole for yourself that you are backpeddling into saying that you did in fact break the law.
The ENTIRE POINT of my getting on you about this was just to admit this basic truth...and now you have even though you didnt want to.
You ethier broke the law by buying humalog with an illegal hook up, or you bought it off a dealer. Either way its still illegal...
Game over Chick
Game is over...still waiting for you to answer for your earlier statement
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I'm not a pharmacist
Pharmacists are health professionals who assist individuals inmaking the best use of medications. This Code, prepared and supported by pharmacists, is intended to state publicly theprinciples that form the fundamental basis of the roles and responsibilities of pharmacists. These principles, based on moralobligations and virtues, are established to guide pharmacists in relationships with patients, health professionals, and society.
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Game is over...still waiting for you to answer for your earlier statement
What eariler statement? Do you think that by playing dumb you will confuse the issue?
Very simply:
1. Chick Denies ever breaking the law in his competitive bodybuilding carreer by saying that he never used gear without a script
2. I point out the absurdity of this statement by mentioning that Chick is not a diabetic, and (by his own admission), has used insulin for bodybuilding purposes, therefore breaking the law.
3. Chick implies that he did not break the law since he was able to just buy some slin without a perscription, by just walking into a pharmacy and buying some. (In California that is). Chick says that he bought Humalog.
4. Myself and several other Getbiggers laugh at this, because there is no way in hell Chick bought Humalog without a script.
5. Like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar, Chick swears up and down that he did indeed buy Humalog without a script...thereby not breaking the law.
6. We continue to mock Chick for this....Milos gets involved and also laughs at this absurdity.
7. Chick backpedels and now implies that despite the legal implications involved, he did in fact buy Humalog without a script, which makes him ethier a liar, or a law-breaker.
So there you have it....thats pretty much the play by play...should I start drawing this out in crayon for you, or do you think you get it now?
M!
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What eariler statement? Do you think that by playing dumb you will confuse the issue?
Very simply:
1. Chick Denies ever breaking the law in his competitive bodybuilding carreer by saying that he never used gear without a script
2. I point out the absurdity of this statement by pointing out that Chick is not a diabetic, and (by his own admission), has used insulin for bodybuilding purposes, therefore breaking the law.
3. Chick implies that he did not break the law since he was able to just buy some slin without a perscription, by just walking into a pharmacy and buying some. (In California). Chick says that he bought Humalog.
4. Myself and several other Getbiggers laugh at this, because there is no way in hell Chick bought Humalog without a script.
5. Like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar, Chick swears up and down that he did indeed buy Humalog without a script...thereby not breaking the law.
6. We continue to mock Chick for this....Milos gets involved and also laughs at this absurdity.
7. Chick backpedels and now implies that despite the legal implications involved, he did in fact buy Humalog without a script, which makes him ethier a liar, or a law-breaker.
So there you have it....thats pretty much the play by play...should I start drawing this out in crayon for you, or do you think you get it now?
M!
You accused me of changing my tune, and trying to backpeddle my way out by saying Humalin.... then posted a quote from me saying HUMALOG
Answer to that, retard
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Guess this guy's word isn't good enough
This guy was taking HUMULIN R - don't confuse the two - loser!
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You accused me of changing my tune, and trying to backpeddle my way out by saying Humalin.... then posted a quote from me saying HUMALOG
Answer to that, retard
No genius...I was saying that you backpeddled your way out of Saying HUMALOG. When low and behold you tried changing your tune from Humalog to Humalin...then you said...I had both. To try and cover up your BS.
M!
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Bob is at the end of his bodybuilding rope. Let him cling to his fantasy of never taking steroids, never dealing steroids, never enhancing his hairline, never slapping women, and never doing g4p at the mirage. He's an old man and has a child to raise now, I don't think he can take much more.
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No genius...I was saying that you backpeddled your way out of Saying HUMALOG. When low and behold you tried changing your tune from Humalog to Humalin...then you said...I had both. To try and cover up your BS.
M!
Really? I guess it shouldnt be a problem quoting where I backpeddled.
You actually quoted ME as saying it was Humalog.....genius
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chirst almighty
log...lin...script...no pharmacist fckd up....i'm professional twink....... this that blah blah blah
why consistently lie and cop the pious attitude when presented with a obvious incorrect statement and/or chivalrous challege by a fellow college and gentleman??
worse than tryin to convince everyone you never had an hotel room encounters
fess up and stop being a little girl EVERY time someone says you fcked up
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Really? I guess it shouldnt be a problem quoting where I backpeddled.
You actually quoted ME as saying it was Humalog.....genius
Did he edit the quote chick? or did you actually say humalog?
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chirst almighty
log...lin...script...no pharmacist fckd up....i'm professional twink....... this that blah blah blah
why consistently lie and cop the pious attitude when presented with a obvious incorrect statement and/or chivalrous challege by a fellow college and gentleman??
worse than tryin to convince everyone you never had an hotel room encounters
fess up and stop being a little girl EVERY time someone says you fcked up
Thanks for chiming in Mr Helper.
No need to post your pic...
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Did he edit the quote chick? or did you actually say humalog?
LOL...nothing was edited....he just made a colossal ass of himself...as usual
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LOL...nothing was edited....he just made a colossal ass of himself...as usual
like sayin you got oxycotin instead of oxy pads from the pharmacy??
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::) ::) ::)
You know as good as i know that you need much more than any doc would prescribe, and that there are enough roids you have injected into your ass that you could never buy in a pharmacy.
You're like a kid smeared in chocolate lying about he has never touched the cookie jar.
There definately doctors around who prescribe test, HG, and slin. Not all, but some, who hold the view that its in the clients interests to get medically supervised, high quality product. Such doctors might also permit higher than normal dosages (not crazy high, but enough to produce very nice gains). The guys who know such doctors are not going to just publish their names in a website (and further these doctors also don't want every man and his dog coming in asking for the same stuff).
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LOL...nothing was edited....he just made a colossal ass of himself...as usual
Not only are you a liar, but you either are disingenious or you are a retard. You said Humalog...then you tried saying Humalin...then when Milos called bullshit..you said you had both....
"No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar."
Abraham Lincoln
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Not only are you a liar, but you either are disingenious or you are a retard. You said Humalog...then you tried saying Humalin...then when Milos called bullshit..you said you had both....
"No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar."
Abraham Lincoln
I've asked you twice now to show it....
Humalin...anyone can get. It's irrelevant
Humalog...you need a script for...which I didn't, but got anyways.
Feel free to post where I backpeddled
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he was so rockdiesel at the time the pharmacist thought "boy this guy must be hyperglycemic as all hell" and just sold him the bottle of LOG cause of his rocked up dies'dness
;)
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Not only are you a liar, but you either are disingenious or you are a retard. You said Humalog...then you tried saying Humalin...then when Milos called bullshit..you said you had both....
"No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar."
Abraham Lincoln
Is this your idea of backpeddling?
Milos the mouth...thats what they called you. The only person that thinks you are "the mind"....is you
I'm not debating what the rules and regulations are....I'm saying I got BOTH without perscription, by walking In and asking for them. You want to dispute my claim....by all means.
A fool (or mouth) and his money are soon parted
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he was so rockdiesel at the time the pharmacist thought "boy this guy must be hyperglycemic as all hell" and just sold him the bottle of LOG cause of his rocked up dies'dness
;)
What language is this?
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What language is this?
same one you were appparently speaking when you said humalog instead of humalin or whatever the hell you said in vulcan
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Is this your idea of backpeddling?
Milos the mouth...thats what they called you. The only person that thinks you are "the mind"....is you
I'm not debating what the rules and regulations are....I'm saying I got BOTH without perscription, by walking In and asking for them. You want to dispute my claim....by all means.
A fool (or mouth) and his money are soon parted
Topskin- Chick as been retired for some years now.. is it possible that during the years he was able to obtain humalog from a pharmacy, a script was not required as it is now?
Chick- come clean, is what you did illegal? Statutes of limitations are up.
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Up here in Canada you can get Humalog no problem at a pharmacy. Its around 30 dollars, no questions asked.
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Topskin- Chick as been retired for some years now.. is it possible that during the years he was able to obtain humalog from a pharmacy, a script was not required as it is now?
Chick- come clean, is what you did illegal? Statutes of limitations are up.
Thanks for your response...to answer your question...I could believe it if it were a different state the California, but due to Californias strict policies..there is no way he would have been able to legaly pick up Humalog without a script.
M!
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Thats not Pat Cash
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=292443.0;attach=332793;image)
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Thats not Pat Cash
Is that what's called a eunuch?
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Thanks for your response...to answer your question...I could believe it if it were a different state the California, but due to Californias strict policies..there is no way he would have been able to legaly pick up Humalog without a script.
M!
Thanks for yours..
Chick?
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Whatever I believe Chick, you never know. You go into the right pharmacy on the right day, anything can happen.
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Chick, you're a lowlife.
A drug addict, liar and stpid as hell. You're really a disgrace.
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Chick is garbage...I used to at least think he was a decent guy...but no..his true colors have showed thru, with him basicly saying that it is perfectly acceptable for him to be a liar, and a hypocrite.
Imagine if Chick did get caught with gear...I wouldnt want to be his source, that is for sure. He is the kind of douchebag that would rat out his dealers for a better sentance, or go the Art Artwood/Vic Martinez route...and become a paid informant.
After all...what is some integrity between meatheads?
You are a disgrace to this sub-culture.
M!
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Chick is garbage...I used to at least think he was a decent guy...but no..his true colors have showed thru, with him basicly saying that it is perfectly acceptable for him to be a liar, and a hypocrite.
Imagine if Chick did get caught with gear...I wouldnt want to be his source, that is for sure. He is the kind of douchebag that would rat out his dealers for a better sentance, or go the Art Artwood/Vic Martinez route...and become a paid informant.
After all...what is some integrity between meatheads?
You are a disgrace to this sub-culture.
M!
How have I "basically" said that?
Boy...my day is ruined now....some anonymous douchbag on the internet doesn't like me
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How have I "basically" said that?
Boy...my day is ruined now....some anonymous douchbag on the internet doesn't like me
After you were caught lying about never breaking the law in the course of your BBing carrer...I called you on your dishonesty, and asked you why you thought it was ok to lie to someone... here was your response..
MY problem?
What would that be, exactly? How is this a problem for me?
Seems to me YOU'RE the one with a problem...
You have buried yourself so far now...you may as well start telling the truth or leave.
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After you were caught lying about never breaking the law in the course of your BBing carrer...I called you on your dishonesty, and asked you why you thought it was ok to lie to someone... here was your response..
You have buried yourself so far now...you may as well start telling the truth or leave.
Why dont you quote the exact question to my answer?
As stated...I dont have any problem with anything I've done....why YOU would is beyond me.
BTW...show me where I was "caught" lying....and by who?
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Why dont you quote the exact question to my answer?
As stated...I dont have any problem with anything I've done....why YOU would is beyond me.
BTW...show me where I was "caught" lying....and by who?
Lets get a serious question.
hows your golf game these days ???
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Lets get a serious question.
hows your golf game these days ???
not to bad.....had a few in the 70's....83 today with 2 blow-up holes
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not to bad.....had a few in the 70's....83 today with 2 blow-up holes
No golf in a month :(
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Chick, you're a lowlife.
A drug addict, liar and stpid as hell. You're really a disgrace.
X2
add rent boy and stooge to that also
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To my fellow Getbiggers living in the Golden State. Our very own Chick claims that you can just waltz into any pharmacy in California and pick up Humalog. I say that this is total bullshit, but since I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, I was wondering if anyone else here has had any luck in just walking in, buying Insulin, and walking out....no questions asked. Assuming that you are a California resident of course.
If there is acully anyone else that has pulled this off, and can convince me....I will formally aplogize to Chick, for my ignorance.
M!
In Chicago... you can waltz in any Osco or drug store and buy Humulog without a prescription for about $40 and a bag of 29g insulin needles for about $2. No questions asked.
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In Chicago... you can waltz in any Osco or drug store and buy Humulog without a prescription for about $40 and a bag of 29g insulin needles for about $2. No questions asked.
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This doesnt suprise me...but California VERY anal about such things... For example: Even though it is legal to buy needles and syinringes, (up to ten a peice per visit). Almost no pharmacy in Cali is willing to honor this law..unless you can provide proof of a script.
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This doesnt suprise me...but California VERY anal about such things... For example: Even though it is legal to buy needles and syinringes, (up to ten a peice per visit). Almost no pharmacy in Cali is willing to honor this law..unless you can provide proof of a script.
How would you know?
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How would you know?
Because I have attempted to by syringes in various pharmacies in California before.... Unlike you I wont lie about what I have done/haven't done, used/haven't used etc...
M!
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Because I have attempted to by syringes in various pharmacies in California before.... Unlike you I wont lie about what I have done/haven't done, used/haven't used etc...
M!
I havent lied either....choosing to not tell everyone what my program was is hardly lying. I owe no one an explanation...least of all anonymous posters.
I noticed you skirted my last question...AGAIN
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bob what would have happened if u were scared of needles? would u have not persued bodybuoding so intense if u hated shots? like im scared of shots at the doctor and i hate allergy tests...so thats why i avoid the hardcore stuff...plz reply!
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You know as good as i know that you need much more than any doc would prescribe, and that there are enough roids you have injected into your ass that you could never buy in a pharmacy.
You're like a kid smeared in chocolate lying about he has never touched the cookie jar.
It's not hard to get as much test and gh as you want by going to multiple "anti-aging" clinics and getting multiple scripts.
However, no doc is gonna prescribe dbol, deca, anavar, tren, winny, etc, etc, nor are you gonna get 'slin if you're not diabetic nor T3 if you don't have a thyroid condition.
Chick may very well have had a script or scripts for part of his gear regimen, but he's full of shit when he claims to have never broken the law.
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It's not hard to get as much test and gh as you want by going to multiple "anti-aging" clinics and getting multiple scripts.
However, no doc is gonna prescribe dbol, deca, anavar, tren, winny, etc, etc, nor are you gonna get 'slin if you're not diabetic nor T3 if you don't have a thyroid condition.
Chick may very well have had a script or scripts for part of his gear regimen, but he's full of shit when he claims to have never broken the law.
Is that what I claimed? Or are you just dumb enough to believe what you read from these nitwits?
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Is that what I claimed? Or are you just dumb enough to believe what you read from these nitwits?
You're Mr. "law n order, rules is rules" on pretty much every subject that comes up. If you have broken the law and obtained bodybuilding drugs illegally during your professional career you're a hypocrite. And if you claim you haven't, you're a liar, as everyone who knows anything about the subject understands illegally-obtained drugs are necessary to compete at the professional level. About the only way you could stay 100% legal is to live and train in Mexico, and only come to the US on contest day. Since you lived in Cali, we'll discount that possibility.
So which is it, Bob... hypocrite or liar? (we all know the answer anyway, but if you'd fess up it would end the subject).
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You're Mr. "law n order, rules is rules" on pretty much every subject that comes up. If you have broken the law and obtained bodybuilding drugs illegally during your professional career you're a hypocrite. And if you claim you haven't, you're a liar, as everyone who knows anything about the subject understands illegally-obtained drugs are necessary to compete at the professional level. About the only way you could stay 100% legal is to live and train in Mexico, and only come to the US on contest day. Since you lived in Cali, we'll discount that possibility.
So which is it, Bob... hypocrite or liar? (we all know the answer anyway, but if you'd fess up it would end the subject).
Still waiting for you to show us all where I claimed that?
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Still waiting for you to show us all where I claimed that?
So you DON'T claim to have never broken the law in the course of your bodybuilding career? I'm not going to search through all of getbig looking for a quote, but even you have to admit at the very least you've crafted responses in such a way as to make it appear you never broke the law (even though we all know better).
But, in the interest of not prolongling this, I'll give you a mulligan on this one.... you're not a liar... just a hypocrite. :D
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I'll give you a mulligan myself....you're not an idiot....you're a douchbag
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I havent lied either....choosing to not tell everyone what my program was is hardly lying. I owe no one an explanation...least of all anonymous posters.
You owe countless thousands of wannabes an explanation. The volunteer pro athletes rep surely has an obligation and responsibility to inform all bodybuilding hopefuls on what is required to compete at the highest levels. I include the one-off pro masters competition here. Why on earth can't bodybuilders disclose what they needed to do to prepare for bodybuilding competitions? Would you encourage any young kid, male or female, to become a professional bodybuilder?
Bob, you avoid answering because you cannot answer without incriminating yourself. What a joke your participation in these threads is. You avoid the truth like the plague. That alone tells us everything.
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You owe countless thousands of wannabes an explanation. The volunteer pro athletes rep surely has an obligation and responsibility to inform all bodybuilding hopefuls on what is required to compete at the highest levels. I include the one-off pro masters competition here. Why on earth can't bodybuilders disclose what they needed to do to prepare for bodybuilding competitions? Would you encourage any young kid, male or female, to become a professional bodybuilder?
Bob, you avoid answering because you cannot answer without incriminating yourself. What a joke your participation in these threads is. You avoid the truth like the plague. That alone tells us everything.
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I owe nobody nothing...least of all you.
BBers can disclose what they do.....if they so choose.
I havent avoided anything....you just have your panties in a bunch because I refuse to disclose what I did....
And just what would I be "incriminating" myself in?
LOL....
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I guess the law differs in different states, I've bought humalog without prescription in Florida and Nevada (Vegas) in Canada you can go to any drug store/pharmacy and buy it over the counter it is considered a life or death medicine and thus available without prescription.
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Chick you have implied many times over the years here on Getbig that you have done everything on the up and up. You may have never outright said "I have never broken the law," but to anyone with a shred of deductive reasoning ability, they could infer that is what you have been implying all this time.
Goatboy is right though...perhaps you are either a liar or a hypocrite...take your pick.
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I owe nobody nothing...least of all you.
BBers can disclose what they do.....if they so choose.
I havent avoided anything....you just have your panties in a bunch because I refuse to disclose what I did....
And just what would I be "incriminating" myself in?
LOL....
Basile was IFBB Mr Canada 1970! Are you not the IFBB athlete's rep? I'd certainly think you'd owe Vince Basile, IFBB athlete, an explaination.
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Chick you have implied many times over the years here on Getbig that you have done everything on the up and up. You may have never outright said "I have never broken the law," but to anyone with a shred of deductive reasoning ability, they could infer that is what you have been implying all this time.
Goatboy is right though...perhaps you are either a liar or a hypocrite...take your pick.
Deductive reasoning
infer
implying
ASSuming a whole bunch aren't you?
Perhaps you are either a moron or a loser....lets assume both
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You guys don't seem to have any respect for pro bodybuilders, but i do enjoy reading all of this soap opera :)
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I'll give you a mulligan myself....you're not an idiot....you're a douchbag
Excuse me...what is douchbag?
I spik no Englis...Some kind of bag? Douch bag?
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Why am I not surprised Chick?
Me being the huge moron that I am, you should be able to refute me with ease with a sound, and well reasoned argument, but instead you are reduced to name calling...as you are incapable of constructing an argument with any merit.
You aren't a bodybuilder by choice, you do what you do, because you are too stupid to succeed in any other vocation.
M!
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Excuse me...what is douchbag?
I spik no Englis...Some kind of bag? Douch bag?
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/tedrules23/Douchebag.png)
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(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/tedrules23/Douchebag.png)
Wow! that kid's jacked!~! he must be taking a shitload of humalog!
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You aren't a bodybuilder by choice, you do what you do, because you are too stupid to succeed in any other vocation.
M!
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Chick is getting a beating from Goatboy, Milos and others! Even his mate, Vince G CSN MFT PHD, can't save Chick's sorry ass.
Imagine Bob C on TV being interviewed and he is asked if he took any substances to help his muscles get bigger, etc? What would this hapless stooge say? The result would either be a fabrication if he talks like he does here, or a complete embarrassment to everyone who competes.
Gotta love the way he avoids the hard questions. Appoint this patsy the pro athletes rep for life!
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Is that what I claimed? Or are you just dumb enough to believe what you read from these nitwits?
Epic backpaddling, you criminal scum.
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I find Chick's contributions to GetBig valuable. He seems quite willing to speak on the general issue of bodybuilding and what it takes to succeed etc. But I do find it rediculus that there are a handful of people who are trying to "trap" him into making an admission that he may have use a substance without a prescription. Is pretty obvious that most bbuilders from time to time take a substance that is prohibited.
The problem is with the law, not with a person who wants to take the substance, and right now, in some countries (including where Chick lives) there is some legal risk (albeit small) from making an admission that you have used a substance which is illegal. So, in that context, I can understand why a person might not want to make such admission publically.
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Epic backpaddling, you criminal scum.
He always doing that, or he never answers anything directly always skirts the issue by responding with stupid questions usually asking if we are gay ::) then he cries to Ron when he gets owned, which is all the time! ::)
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He always doing that, or he never answers anything directly always skirts the issue by responding with stupid questions usually asking if we are gay ::) then he cries to Ron when he gets owned, which is all the time! ::)
spot on.
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Yes, what gib says is true, however, Chick took it upon himself to represent pro bodybuilders. He is the internet spokesperson for them. I find it amazing that what is required to compete at the top level cannot be openly discussed here. What the heck is that? Bullshit. That is what Chick and the IFBB represent. No sensible person would become a professional bodybuilder today. The costs and risks are way too high for any rewards that might be there.
We are not trying to trap Bob C. Just get him to tell it like it is without any bullshit excuses and cover up. Lee Priest has been asking Bob about drug testing in the pro comps but is ignored. Seems obvious to me that foot soldier Chick is part of the mess bodybuilding is now in and he and the others are totally clueless about what to do to improve things. If you get knuckleheads to run bodybuilding you will end up in a mess like we find now. Guys and even girls have to take massive doses of dangerous substances to compete as professionals and dare I say even backwoods novice shows. There are some natural shows that seem okay but the IFBB is covering up the drug issue and tolerating widespread usage that would not be seen in any other sport. Look at how he cannot disclose anything at all about acquiring illegal drugs to use in building muscle and getting ready for contests.
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He always doing that, or he never answers anything directly always skirts the issue by responding with stupid questions usually asking if we are gay ::) then he cries to Ron when he gets owned, which is all the time! ::)
agreed!
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Why am I not surprised Chick?
Me being the huge moron that I am, you should be able to refute me with ease with a sound, and well reasoned argument, but instead you are reduced to name calling...as you are incapable of constructing an argument with any merit.
You aren't a bodybuilder by choice, you do what you do, because you are too stupid to succeed in any other vocation.
M!
Whats the argument?
You are a moron to believe that I need to refute anything YOU have to say....apparently, you need to be reminded that you are anonymous, don't know me, and wouldn't have the slighest clue as to what I have/ haven't done. You have been countered with all that you list, the problem (for you) is that it wasn't the answer YOU were looking for....therefore, you believe I avoid the questions.
You're laughable at best
As for what I do for a living...you can only wish to get paid for what I do...remember that nxt time your punching your timecard.
When the day comes YOU'RE signing my checks....I'll be sure to answer to you. Until then...STFU, boy
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The problem is with the law, not with a person who wants to take the substance, and right now, in some countries (including where Chick lives) there is some legal risk (albeit small) from making an admission that you have used a substance which is illegal. So, in that context, I can understand why a person might not want to make such admission publically.
Chick claims to be 100% clean at this time. Based on the recent pics of him, I believe him. The statute of limitations on any former use would have long run, so Bob risks nothing legally by admitting things.
He won't admit it because he's Mr. "rules are rules" about everything else, and his illegal drug use makes him look like a hypocrite.
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However, no doc is gonna prescribe dbol, deca, anavar, tren, winny, etc, etc, nor are you gonna get 'slin if you're not diabetic nor T3 if you don't have a thyroid condition.
You guys in the US have it GOOD right now... from what I've read it's easy as hell to get anabolics from these "HRT" clinics.
Take a look at this candy list from an HRT clinic someone posted on another forum :P
Sermorelin 3mg
$135.00
Tev-Tropin 5mg 15 ius
$205.00
Omnitropin 5.8mg 17.4 ius
$240.00
Genotropin 0.2mg MiniQuick 0.6 ius
$145.00
Genotropin 0.4mg MiniQuick 1.2 ius
$235.00
Genotropin 0.6mg MiniQuick 1.8 ius
$325.00
Genotropin 0.8mg MiniQuick 2.4 ius
$415.00
Genotropin 1.0mg MiniQuick 3.0 ius
$505.00
Genotropin 1.2mg MiniQuick 3.6 ius
$605.00
Genotropin 1.4mg MiniQuick 4.2 ius
$695.00
Genotropin 1.6mg MiniQuick 4.8 ius
$795.00
Genotropin 1.8mg MiniQuick 5.4 ius
$885.00
Genotropin 5.8mg PFS 17.4 ius
$410.00
Genotropin 13.8mg PFS 41.4 ius
$800.00
Saizen 5mg vial 15 ius
$375.00
Saizen 8.8mg vial 26.4 ius
$600.00
Humatrope 6mg 18 ius
$430.00
Norditropin5mgPen15iusNo rditin 5m Pen ius
37000.
Norditropin 10mg Pen 30 ius
$600.00
Norditropin Pen Tips (100)
$30.00
Quad Testosterone 250mg/ml (Sustanon) 10ml (NEW)
$190.00
Testosterone Decano/Cyp/Isocaproate/Prop 100/60/60/30mg/ml 10ml
$170.00
Testosterone Cyp/Enan/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml 10ml (Ultra-Test)
$150.00
Testosterone Decanoate/Cyp/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml 10ml
$140.00
Testosterone Cyp/Enan/Decano/Prop 73/73/73/31mg/ml 10ml (Peak-Test)
$160.00
Testosterone Decanoate 250mg/ml 10ml
$160.00
Delatestryl 200mg/ml 5ml vial (Enanthate) (Brand)
$195.00
Testeosterone Enanthate 200mg/ml 10ml vial
$100.00
Testeosterone Enanthate 300mg/ml 10ml vial
$150.00
Depo Test 100 mg/ml 10ml vial (Brand)
$140.00
Depo Test 200 mg/ml 10ml vial (Brand)
$200.00
Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml 10ml
$105.00
Testosterone Cyp/Prop 200/50mg/ml 10ml
$160.00
Testosterone Cyp-Prop-DHEA 75-25-20mg 10ml
$85.00
Test Aqueous 100mg/ml 10ml vial (Suspension)
$90.00
Testosterone Prop 100mg/ml 10ml vial
$90.00
Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml
$180.00
Stanozolol 50mg/ml 10ml
$105.00
Stanozolo/Oxandrolone 50/50mg/ml 10ml (NEW)
$190.00
Stanozolol/Testosterone 50/50mg/ml 10ml (NEW)
$160.00
Oxandrolone 50mg/ml 10ml (NEW)
$150.00
HCG 10,000 USP (Brand)
$110.00
HCG 5,000 USP Compound
$50.00
Nandrolone Dec 200mg/ml compound
$190.00
Nandrolone Dec 300mg/ml compound
$220.00
Nandrolone/Propionate 200/50mg/ml 10ml
$210.00
Nandrolone/Cypionate 100/100mg/ml 10ml
$150.00
Cyanacobalamin 1000mcg/ml 30ml (B-12)
$25.00
Methylcobalamin 1000mcg/ml 30ml
$100.00
L-Carnitine 250mg/ml 30ml
$90.00
B-Complex 206mg/ml 30ml
$65.00
L-Glutamine 25mg/ml 30ml - water based - sub q inj (NEW)
$70.00
L-Arginine 100mg/ml 30ml - water based - sub q inj (NEW)
$75.00
L-Carnitine 250mg/ml 30ml - water based - sub q inj (NEW)
$80.00
Lipo-Injection 30ml (NEW)
$90.00
Many of these products obviously have nothing to do with any type of HRT, and are simply for physique enhancement. Look at the bolded ones for example. :P
I don't think this is totally legal but if you have a script you're protected to a large extent I think. I wouldn't doubt there's some places compounding tren too. Hell, The Coach said he had Dianabol from a clinic.
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Chick claims to be 100% clean at this time. Based on the recent pics of him, I believe him. The statute of limitations on any former use would have long run, so Bob risks nothing legally by admitting things.
He won't admit it because he's Mr. "rules are rules" about everything else, and his illegal drug use makes him look like a hypocrite.
I don't HAVE to admit anything...
And whether or not "Goatboy" on an internet forum believes what I say or not, isn't really of any interest or advantage.
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I don't HAVE to admit anything...
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And whether or not "Goatboy" on an internet forum believes what I say or not, isn't really of any interest or advantage.
Chick all I have done is point out your hypocirsy and stupidity. The entire reason we got into this, was that you claimed/implied/inferred that you never broke the law in your bbing career. You claimed that you had scripts for everything, on several occasions in fact. I then pointed out that this isn't possible as you had in fact used insulin, and would need a perscription to do so.
You then MADE ONE OF THE DUMBEST STATEMENTS IN GETBIG HISTORY, by claiming "You can get Humalog almost anywhere without a perscription jackass."
After you made such this retarded statement, you went on to say that you just walked into a California Pharmacy, bought some Humalog then left. Of course myself, Ron, Scott, and pretty much everyone else on this board pointed out that this isn't possible, (not legally anyway), so you without any recourse...just started fuming, and said inane crap like, "It doesn't matter what I do."
NOBODY Cares that you broke the law Chick...least of all me. What I am calling you out on is being at best a hypocrite, and at worst a liar.
Now as for what you are obligated to do/say....
If you really care about this sport, and want to see it change, then you should be using your voice, to be honest about what goes in BBing, and what it takes to be competitive. The more that it gets out in the open, by figures within the industry, (that are respected), the more likely we are to see positive change in Bodybuilding.
See Chick your problem is that you are a self-serving douchebag. You have charisma, and are sharp enough to figure out how to make some money in the game...but you basically act like a used car salesmen. You kiss the right ass, and make the impressions you need to make...but you wont do the right thing and buck the system in an effort to improve the whole.
Simply put...you look out for yourself. Your crusade as "Athletes Rep," is nothing more then a clever way for you to stay in the mix of things, and get the talking heads to pay attention to you, it has absolutely nothing to do you actually giving a rats ass about making any changes.
No you don't owe me anything, but you do owe it to yourself to walk with integrity, and tell the truth. You also owe it to this "sport" to try and make it a better endeavour then it was when you found it. You owe it to impressionable kids that have dreams of BBing glory, to be forward about what actually takes place. By telling others of your mistakes, you could help those to know what pitfalls to avoid.
Ahh.. I forget though... you haven't made any mistakes.
M!
"To live outside the law, one must be honest"
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Chick all I have done is point out your hypocirsy and stupidity. The entire reason we got into this, was that you claimed/implied/inferred that you never broke the law in your bbing career. You claimed that you had scripts for everything, on several occasions in fact. I then pointed out that this isn't possible as you had in fact used insulin, and would need a perscription to do so.
First of all, you assumed that ANY type of insulin was in need of a script...which is not true. As for humalog, it does need one, but I never had one for it, and merely asked for it, just like Humalin-R...at the time, I wasn't aware it needed one either.
You then MADE ONE OF THE DUMBEST STATEMENTS IN GETBIG HISTORY, by claiming "You can get Humalog almost anywhere without a perscription jackass."
Except for the fact that it is available from many sources without one....jackass. Which has been pointed out by numerous people here...jackass
After you made such this retarded statement, you went on to say that you just walked into a California Pharmacy, bought some Humalog then left. Of course myself, Ron, Scott, and pretty much everyone else on this board pointed out that this isn't possible, (not legally anyway), so you without any recourse...just started fuming, and said inane crap like, "It doesn't matter what I do."
It was possible, as I did it....legally or otherwise.
I could have alked into a pharmacy in Canada where a script is not required as well....does that change the circumstances? Why you care is beyond me
NOBODY Cares that you broke the law Chick...least of all me. What I am calling you out on is being at best a hypocrite, and at worst a liar.
Apparently...you do care, as you have brought it up a thousand times like you personally are affected by my actions somehow
Now as for what you are obligated to do/say....
If you really care about this sport, and want to see it change, then you should be using your voice, to be honest about what goes in BBing, and what it takes to be competitive. The more that it gets out in the open, by figures within the industry, (that are respected), the more likely we are to see positive change in Bodybuilding.
LOL...like what?
See Chick your problem is that you are a self-serving douchebag. You have charisma, and are sharp enough to figure out how to make some money in the game...but you basically act like a used car salesmen. You kiss the right ass, and make the impressions you need to make...but you wont do the right thing and buck the system in an effort to improve the whole.
You mean like trying to start a union for the athletes? Do a little research before making a bigger ass of yourself...lots of athletes bitching, but none willing to put their ass on the line as I did...
Simply put...you look out for yourself. Your crusade as "Athletes Rep," is nothing more then a clever way for you to stay in the mix of things, and get the talking heads to pay attention to you, it has absolutely nothing to do you actually giving a rats ass about making any changes.
I've single handedly made more change over the last 3 years, than any other individual...for ALL the athletes, men and women. Don't hear any of them complaining....just douchbags like YOU and Basile....who have nothing to do with nothing, don't know the facts, the only opinions that matter, are those of the athletes I represent.....who we have yet to hear a single complaint...
No you don't owe me anything, but you do owe it to yourself to walk with integrity, and tell the truth. You also owe it to this "sport" to try and make it a better endeavour then it was when you found it. You owe it to impressionable kids that have dreams of BBing glory, to be forward about what actually takes place. By telling others of your mistakes, you could help those to know what pitfalls to avoid.
Ahh.. I forget though... you haven't made any mistakes.
It's better already than when I came in to it...and receiving the IFBB Achievment award from Ben Weider himself before he passed, tells me I'm on the right track....I suggest you research the last 3 years of proposals I've had passed, and their impact on this sport and the athletes. You try and talk shop....but you don't know what you're talking about which makes you ignorant to the facts, thus making you look like an ill-informed buffoon.
M!
"To live outside the law, one must be honest"
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...lots of athletes bitching, but none willing to put their ass on the line as I did...
I've single handedly made more change over the last 3 years, than any other individual...for ALL the athletes, men and women. Don't hear any of them complaining..
Bob, Bob, Bob, you have absolutely no shame to post crap like that on Getbig. You are not part of the brass, remember, so what could you do except offer suggestions representing what some pros want?
Don't come on Getbig claiming to be some saviour and hero of the pro bodybuilders. You did nothing to help Lee Priest who got two years suspension instead of one. Then you did nothing to help Milos get reinstated for uncovering the corruption in Asian bodybuilding. The lesson learned by all bodybuilders is to keep their mouths shut and not criticize the IFBB or Pro League. Those recalcitrant pros who do speak out get tarred and feathered and you merely say, 'I told you so!'. What a joke your contribution is to professional bodybuilding. A patsy like you could never be a leader in the Irongame. You are the epitome of a stooge and lackey for Manion and others. You should shake your head hard and wake up.
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...lots of athletes bitching, but none willing to put their ass on the line as I did...
I've single handedly made more change over the last 3 years, than any other individual...for ALL the athletes, men and women. Don't hear any of them complaining..
Bob, Bob, Bob, you have absolutely no shame to post crap like that on Getbig. You are not part of the brass, remember, so what could you do except offer suggestions representing what some pros want?
LOL...what a fuckin ImBasile....thats what I do, fool....submit proposals on behalf of the athletes
Don't come on Getbig claiming to be some saviour and hero of the pro bodybuilders. You did nothing to help Lee Priest who got two years suspension instead of one.
Ask Lee who helped him get back in...I wrote his official request for reinstatement
Then you did nothing to help Milos get reinstated for uncovering the corruption in Asian bodybuilding.
Wrote his appeal...the only thing I could do
The lesson learned by all bodybuilders is to keep their mouths shut and not criticize the IFBB or Pro League. Those recalcitrant pros who do speak out get tarred and feathered and you merely say, 'I told you so!'.
Like who? Plenty have spoken out over the years....LeVrone, Shawn Ray...what a "tar and feathering they took, huh?
What a joke your contribution is to professional bodybuilding. A patsy like you could never be a leader in the Irongame. You are the epitome of a stooge and lackey for Manion and others. You should shake your head hard and wake up.
Seriously....stop posting. I didn't think it was possible for you to make a bigger ass of yourself, but you've exceeded all expectations....amazing you can voice such opinions when you havent had anything to do with BB since you were riding horeback to the Mr Canada, posing in your coonskin trunks.
Scram, ImBasile
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For whatever reason, there are those inclined to take Chick to task for things they "believe" he did during his career, in order to compete at the pro level. My first question, is why do people have such a vested interest in what Chick did, or didn't do? Secondly, those same people that denounce Chick, will cheer for other pro competitors that have potentially resorted to the exact same or similar practices. Is there some reason that Chick should be held to a higher standard than anyone else?
Why are there always those that have the expectation that pros should be willing to divulge their exact regimens to the public? What would there be to gain for Bob, or any other bodybuilder in doing so? The few that do are generally met with a high degree of skepticism, anyway. I find it amusing when certain individuals take umbrage to some of Chick's responses to them, after they have been on the offensive against him. Chick is human like anyone else, and will defend himself. Frankly, I have to give him credit for taking the crap he does, and still sticking around for more. People of lesser constitutions would have packed up long ago.
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For whatever reason, there are those inclined to take Chick to task for things they "believe" he did during his career, in order to compete at the pro level. My first question, is why do people have such a vested interest in what Chick did, or didn't do? Secondly, those same people that denounce Chick, will cheer for other pro competitors that have more than likely resorted to the exact same or similar practices. Is there some reason that Chick should be held to a different standard than other competitors?
Why are there always those that have the expectation that pros should be willing to divulge their exact regimens to the public? What would there be to gain for Bob, or any other bodybuilder in doing so? The few that do are generally met with a high degree of skepticism, anyway. I find it amusing when certain individuals take umbrage to some of Chick's responses to them, after they have been on the offensive against him. Chick is human like anyone else, and will defend himself. Frankly, I have to give him credit for taking the crap he does, and still sticking around for more. People of lessor constitutions would have packed up long ago.
Yeah, Chick has a hide thicker than a rhinoceros. It helps to ward off the knocks he gets from his pompous stance here on Getbig. I mean, the dude actually believes his own hype. He joins Melvin Goodrum in the delusional stakes. His sheriff attitude permeates his posts but he is nothing but a wannabe sophist with his excuses and attacks. This guy is hardly the pro athletes friend. He deserves to get a belting from the flotsam led by Goatboy.
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No response as usual from ImBasile...once again exposed as nothing but an ignorant old fool
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Yeah, Chick has a hide thicker than a rhinoceros. It helps to ward off the knocks he gets from his pompous stance here on Getbig. I mean, the dude actually believes his own hype. He joins Melvin Goodrum in the delusional stakes. His sheriff attitude permeates his posts but he is nothing but a wannabe sophist with his excuses and attacks. This guy is hardly the pro athletes friend. He deserves to get a belting from the flotsam led by Goatboy.
There is a key factor that I believe you and others fail to realize. Bob is the representative of the athletes. It is his responsibility to move forward with proposals on their behalf. Everyone acts as though Bob should play the Lone Ranger and try and reinvent the wheel all on his own. That is not his role. He isn't going to try and enact major changes unless they are at the behest of the athletes themselves, as that is his role, to represent "them". A simple concept that seems to get lost amongst all of the criticizing, I believe.
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There is a key factor that I believe you and others fail to realize. Bob is the representative of the athletes. It is his responsibility to move forward with proposals on their behalf. Everyone acts as though Bob should play the Lone Ranger and try and reinvent the wheel all on his own. That is not his role. He isn't going to try and enact major changes unless they are at the behest of the athletes themselves, as that is his role, to represent "them". A simple concept that seems to get lost amongst all of the criticizing, I believe.
That's Basile dept.
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It must really bother Bob that he can't control every bodybuilder who posts here. Too bad he didn't finish university because he might have learned how to debate intelligently with others instead of the heavy handed way he deals with dissenters. He is the epitome of how the IFBB operates. You tow the line or you don't get anywhere in that organization or contests.
I don't respect the IFBB and I certainly don't respect asskissers like Bob who use a big stick to enforce policy. He won't help Milos because they don't want outspoken, independent, intelligent guys like that. Much better to keep everyone in line with threats and rewards.
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It must really bother Bob that he can't control everyone bodybuilder who posts here. Too bad he didn't finish university because he might have learned how to debate intelligently with others instead of the heavy handed way he deals with dissenters. He is the epitome of how the IFBB operates. You tow the line or you don't get anywhere in that organization or contests.
I don't respect the IFBB and I certainly don't respect asskissers like Bob who use a big stick to enforce policy. He won't help Milos because they don't want outspoken, independent, intelligent guys like that. Much better to keep everyone in line with threats and rewards.
Where is the credibility in anything you say Vince, when you continue with personal attacks, rather than offering constructive input? Perhaps you are only responding in kind at times, but really, how are such discussions enhanced by such vitriol?
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There is a key factor that I believe you and others fail to realize. Bob is the representative of the athletes. It is his responsibility to move forward with proposals on their behalf. Everyone acts as though Bob should play the Lone Ranger and try and reinvent the wheel all on his own. That is not his role. He isn't going to try and enact major changes unless they are at the behest of the athletes themselves, as that is his role, to represent "them". A simple concept that seems to get lost amongst all of the criticizing, I believe.
What complete and utter nonsense. Bob doesn't represent the athletes because he was appointed by the Pro League and his mentor, Manion. His role is to do as he is told and not let anyone speak out or stray and cause trouble. So they appointed a former cadet deputy sherrif who knows how to enforce rules and regulations. Why can't everyone see this?
There was no election by the athletes for Bob. That he continues in his appointment shows the disdain he has for the pros. Bob has no respect for democracy and no shame whatsoever. The guy just tramples on everything many like Milos have worked hard to bring about.
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What complete and utter nonsense. Bob doesn't represent the athletes because he was appointed by the Pro League and his mentor, Manion. His role is to do as he is told and not let anyone speak out or stray and cause trouble. So they appointed a former cadet deputy sherrif who knows how to enforce rules and regulations. Why can't everyone see this?
There was no election by the athletes for Bob. That he continues in his appointment shows the disdain he has for the pros. Bob has no respect for democracy and no shame whatsoever. The guy just tramples on everything many like Milos have worked hard to bring about.
Is there a long line of people clamoring for the position, to which Bob is clinging to with an iron fist? Is that your assertion, Vince?
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He has no assertion, bro....has the ASS part covered...fails miserably in the ERTION portion.
You're wasting your time....don't have to be a genius to see despite his talk...his ability to debate a single subject (which I routinely counter, point by point) is non exsistant followed by the same tiresome drivel...flotsom, puppet, blah, blah...
He's senile...cut him some slack
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Is there a long line of people clamoring for the position, to which Bob is clinging to with an iron fist? Is that your assertion, Vince?
Sometimes I wonder if Bob is the right person for the job. Nope, he is actually the enemy of professional bodybuilders. He is merely enforcing the rules made in the back rooms of the Pro League.
Bob smears anyone who challenges his words. I find that appalling. Well, he is a former cop and they know how to deal with people they don't approve of.
Look at the state of professional bodybuilding. You will have to conclude that Bob IS partly responsible for the crap the competitors have to participate in because he thinks it is okay.
Well, it is not okay for athletes to have to take dangerous substances for months and years just to compete on a level playing field.
Bob is a dangerous individual and part of the status quo. He should be removed immediately from any representation of anyone, let alone professional bodybuilders.
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Sometimes I wonder if Bob is the right person for the job. Nope, he is actually the enemy of professional bodybuilders. He is merely enforcing the rules made in the back rooms of the Pro League.
In his position, are you saying that Bob would accomplish more by having an adversarial relationship with management? Interesting.
Bob smears anyone who challenges his words. I find that appalling. Well, he is a former cop and they know how to deal with people they don't approve of.
Look at the state of professional bodybuilding. You will have to conclude that Bob IS partly responsible for the crap the competitors have to participate in because he thinks it is okay.
Well, it is not okay for athletes to have to take dangerous substances for months and years just to compete on a level playing field.
Are the athletes forced to take such things?? Really? Or, is that a personal decision that they make themselves? Were you forced Vince? Or did you make a choice?
Bob is a dangerous individual and part of the status quo. He should be removed immediately from any representation of anyone, let alone professional bodybuilders.
Who should step in, in his place? What will they be able to do, that Bob could not?
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You're wasting your time....don't have to be a genius to see despite his talk...his ability to debate a single subject (which I routinely counter, point by point) is non exsistant followed by the same tiresome drivel...flotsom, puppet, blah, blah...
Let me translate what Bob is saying about me. Bob is pissed off that other people on this forum also think he is a stooge, patsy and lackey. That is the way forums work. If you repeat things enough times many will come to view things that way. The reality is that Bob is truly what I describe. He isn't happy with me for exposing him so he takes plenty of time to try to dismiss and discredit me.
The other top bodybuilders except for Milos don't or can't post here. Lee used to but contracts prevent him from doing so. We all know that the IFBB forbids their professional athletes from posting on Getbig. I wonder why Bob is given an exemption? Why? Well, because he is the IFBB Pro League representative. That athletes pro rep was a clever ploy by Manion to dupe the musclemen into believing they are represented. Most bodybuilders will do anything to win a top title so there is no problem getting cooperation from almost all the top guys and girls. What they don't need is clear thinking, independent individuals to tell it like it is.
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Let me translate what Bob is saying about me. Bob is pissed off that other people on this forum also think he is a stooge, patsy and lackey. That is the way forums work. If you repeat things enough times many will come to view things that way. The reality is that Bob is truly what I describe. He isn't happy with me for exposing him so he takes plenty of time to try to dismiss and discredit me.
The other top bodybuilders except for Milos don't or can't post here. Lee used to but contracts prevent him from doing so. We all know that the IFBB forbids their professional athletes from posting on Getbig. I wonder why Bob is given an exemption? Why? Well, because he is the IFBB Pro League representative. That athletes pro rep was a clever ploy by Manion to dupe the musclemen into believing they are represented. Most bodybuilders will do anything to win a top title so there is no problem getting cooperation from almost all the top guys and girls. What they don't need is clear thinking, independent individuals to tell it like it is.
The problem is Vince, how exactly are you in touch with the current inner workings of the IFBB? You have your perception of things, but how do you really know what happens behind the scenes any more than the rest of us? You certainly may have a perspective based upon many years passed when you competed, but how relevant is that in terms of the here and now? I'm not saying there is absolutely no relevance, but much of what you say is based on conjecture, rather than firsthand knowledge.
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Let me translate what Bob is saying about me. Bob is pissed off that other people on this forum also think he is a stooge, patsy and lackey. That is the way forums work. If you repeat things enough times many will come to view things that way. The reality is that Bob is truly what I describe. He isn't happy with me for exposing him so he takes plenty of time to try to dismiss and discredit me.
Don't have to ImBasile...you do a fine job of that all on your own
The other top bodybuilders except for Milos don't or can't post here. Lee used to but contracts prevent him from doing so. We all know that the IFBB forbids their professional athletes from posting on Getbig.
More clueless drivel....almost every IFBB pro has posted on this forum at one time or another. It's people like YOU that make them not want to. Any IFBB pro can post here, as Ron can attest
I wonder why Bob is given an exemption? Why? Well, because he is the IFBB Pro League representative. That athletes pro rep was a clever ploy by Manion to dupe the musclemen into believing they are represented.
Thats funny, since Manion wasn't in charge at the time we had a rep put in place...Wayne DeMilia was. The nearly 20 proposals I've had approved says they are represented, and well.
Most bodybuilders will do anything to win a top title so there is no problem getting cooperation from almost all the top guys and girls. What they don't need is clear thinking, independent individuals to tell it like it is.
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I would support either Lee Priest or Milos Sarcev as pro athletes rep. They are smart and independent and speak out for what they believe is right. That is a huge improvement on that stooge Chick.
The trouble is the Pro League doesn't want independent guys in the operation. They want guys that agree with what they are doing and not make too much trouble. So what do we find? Bob 'makes' small concessions for the professionals and considers this wonderful. He won't tackle the drug issue because he endorses that.
No one forced me to take Dianabol. However, in those days there were no rules against taking them and they certainly were not illegal to possess for cosmetic use. I took 2 tablets a day for a few months. Many here on Getbig called me a liar because they didn't believe that is all I took. It just shows what a drug culture that exists on these forums and in many hardcore gyms around the world.
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I would support either Lee Priest or Milos Sarcev as pro athletes rep. They are smart and independent and speak out for what they believe is right. That is a huge improvement on that stooge Chick.
The trouble is the Pro League doesn't want independent guys in the operation. They want guys that agree with what they are doing and not make too much trouble. So what do we find? Bob 'makes' small concessions for the professionals and considers this wonderful. He won't tackle the drug issue because he endorses that.
No one forced me to take Dianabol. However, in those days there were no rules against taking them and they certainly were not illegal to possess for cosmetic use. I took 2 tablets a day for a few months. Many here on Getbig called me a liar because they didn't believe that is all I took. It just shows what a drug culture that exists on these forums and in many hardcore gyms around the world.
And likewise, no one today is forced. People choose their vocation and what they are willing, and not willing to do in order to be competitive.
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Bob is a dangerous individual and part of the status quo. He should be removed immediately from any representation of anyone, let alone professional bodybuilders.
Are you having second thoughts, Vince?
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I would support either Lee Priest or Milos Sarcev as pro athletes rep. They are smart and independent and speak out for what they believe is right. That is a huge improvement on that stooge Chick.
The trouble is the Pro League doesn't want independent guys in the operation. They want guys that agree with what they are doing and not make too much trouble.
If I agreed with what they are doing, I wouldn't have tried to form a union (which neither of your hero's tried, or attended to support)
If I agreed with what was in place, I wouldn't have 20 proposals passed increasing money, per diem, qualifications, health care, etc..
So what do we find? Bob 'makes' small concessions for the professionals and considers this wonderful. He won't tackle the drug issue because he endorses that.
What issue? The one YOU have with it? So far, I have yet to have a single IFBB pro come to me with requesting any additional drug protocol be added...you know, the athletes I represent.
No one forced me to take Dianabol. However, in those days there were no rules against taking them and they certainly were not illegal to possess for cosmetic use. I took 2 tablets a day for a few months. Many here on Getbig called me a liar because they didn't believe that is all I took. It just shows what a drug culture that exists on these forums and in many hardcore gyms around the world.
OK for you, but not for anyone else, right Basile? You're a hypocrit at best
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The ugly truth is that Bob is part of the Manion organization and things are going along smoothly. If someone else were doing that job then maybe things wouldn't be as smooth. That is the problem. The Pro League needs someone they get along with.
What amazes me is we are talking about a very small operation with less than 50 individuals involved. The men, that is. Why on earth they need any representatives is mysterious. Surely the Pro League should know how to run contests and keep everyone happy? Well, things change when big prize money is involved. Those behind the scenes have a lot invested and they don't need any trouble from the bodybuilders.
Things have evolved in a way that few would have predicted years ago. How is it possible for a current governor of California to have a contest and show in his name and not be drug tested? That is completey bizarre and indicates that selective treatment is being given to professional bodybuilding.
While it is true that just about every open winner since 1970 took anabolic steroids the current drug culture far exceeds what anyone in those former days would have experimented with. It is now plain disgraceful and even lunacy to participate in professional bodybuilding. Doubly so for the female bodybuilders who acquire irreversible side effects of steroid use.
Bob is part of the coverup and therefore has to accept that he is partly responsible for what is happening in professional bodybuilding. That he isn't making demands to do drug testing on behalf of the bodybuilders is a great shame. Lee Priest has persistently requested that Bob do something but so far nothing has changed. It is business as usual there.
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Whats the argument?
You are a moron to believe that I need to refute anything YOU have to say....apparently, you need to be reminded that you are anonymous, don't know me, and wouldn't have the slighest clue as to what I have/ haven't done. You have been countered with all that you list, the problem (for you) is that it wasn't the answer YOU were looking for....therefore, you believe I avoid the questions.
You're laughable at best
As for what I do for a living...you can only wish to get paid for what I do...remember that nxt time your punching your timecard.
When the day comes YOU'RE signing my checks....I'll be sure to answer to you. Until then...STFU, boy
Boy, this really just sums it all up.. doesn't it? ::)
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Vince, what is it exactly that you want Bob to do? Be specific.
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The ugly truth is that Bob is part of the Manion organization and things are going along smoothly. If someone else were doing that job then maybe things wouldn't be as smooth. That is the problem. The Pro League needs someone they get along with.
What amazes me is we are talking about a very small operation with less than 50 individuals involved. The men, that is. Why on earth they need any representatives is mysterious. Surely the Pro League should know how to run contests and keep everyone happy? Well, things change when big prize money is involved. Those behind the scenes have a lot invested and they don't need any trouble from the bodybuilders.
Things have evolved in a way that few would have predicted years ago. How is it possible for a current governor of California to have a contest and show in his name and not be drug tested? That is completey bizarre and indicates that selective treatment is being given to professional bodybuilding.
While it is true that just about every open winner since 1970 took anabolic steroids the current drug culture far exceeds what anyone in those former days would have experimented with. It is now plain disgraceful and even lunacy to participate in professional bodybuilding. Doubly so for the female bodybuilders who acquire irreversible side effects of steroid use.
Bob is part of the coverup and therefore has to accept that he is partly responsible for what is happening in professional bodybuilding. That he isn't making demands to do drug testing on behalf of the bodybuilders is a great shame. Lee Priest has persistently requested that Bob do something but so far nothing has changed. It is business as usual there.
You levy the allegation of a cover up. Please elaborate with regard to this accusation, Vince. Precisely what is Chick implicit in covering up? I notice that you chose to cloak your own drug use under the guise of "experimentation". That is an interesting characterization, with the perceived aim to mitigate your own conduct in this area. Though the pharmacological area of the contest prep has been augmented over the years, the fundamental tendencies on the part of the bodybuilders today are not unlike that of you and your counterparts years ago. You made the choice to use drugs to compete, simply put. The comparative dosages are irrelevant. You made the very same choice that many make today.
You mention Lee Priest, as a solitary example of a request you perceive Bob as not having followed up on. Is it really logical that the IFBB would revamp their operations in terms of testing, just to suite Lee? Because major change didn't happen, you conclude that Bob did nothing, but do you know this for certain? What would you have had Bob do in this instance? The ultimate decision on testing is not his to make.
Vince, you speak as though implementing such changes would be as simple as waving a magic wand. First of all, there would need to be enough people behind such changes to initiate such modifications. Is there? If so, it doesn't seem as though they are making their voices heard. Secondly, complaining and offering vague hypotheticals offers little in the way of constructive input. It is easy to complain and suggest the way things should be, but how does one get there?
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You levy the allegation of a cover up. Please elaborate with regard to this accusation, Vince. Precisely what is Chick implicit in covering up? I notice that you chose to cloak your own drug use under the guise of "experimentation". That is an interesting characterization, with the perceived aim to mitigate your own conduct in this area. Though the pharmacological area of the contest prep has been augmented over the years, the fundamental tendencies on the part of the bodybuilders today are not unlike that of you and your counterparts years ago. You made the choice to use drugs to compete, simply put. The comparative dosages are irrelevant. You made the very same choice that many make today.
You mention Lee Priest, as a solitary example of a request you perceive Bob as not having followed up on. Is it really logical that the IFBB would revamp their operations in terms of testing, just to suite Lee? Because major change didn't happen, you conclude that Bob did nothing, but do you know this for certain? What would you have had Bob do in this instance? The ultimate decision on testing is not his to make.
Vince, you speak as though implementing such changes would be as simple as waving a magic wand. First of all, there would need to be enough people behind such changes to initiate such modifications. Is there? If so, it doesn't seem as though they are making their voices heard. Secondly, complaining and offering vague hypotheticals offers little in the way of constructive input. It is easy to complain and suggest the way things should be, but how does one get there?
This post reeks of Adonis.
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This post reeks of Adonis.
I'm not clear how that is intended, but I'm leaning towards being insulted for some reason. ;)
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I'm not clear how that is intended, but I'm leaning towards being insulted for some reason. ;)
;D
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I'm not clear how that is intended, but I'm leaning towards being insulted for some reason. ;)
He means you have been overly pedantic in your reply.
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You levy the allegation of a cover up. Please elaborate with regard to this accusation, Vince. Precisely what is Chick implicit in covering up? I notice that you chose to cloak your own drug use under the guise of "experimentation". That is an interesting characterization, with the perceived aim to mitigate your own conduct in this area. Though the pharmacological area of the contest prep has been augmented over the years, the fundamental tendencies on the part of the bodybuilders today are not unlike that of you and your counterparts years ago. You made the choice to use drugs to compete, simply put. The comparative dosages are irrelevant. You made the very same choice that many make today.
You mention Lee Priest, as a solitary example of a request you perceive Bob as not having followed up on. Is it really logical that the IFBB would revamp their operations in terms of testing, just to suite Lee? Because major change didn't happen, you conclude that Bob did nothing, but do you know this for certain? What would you have had Bob do in this instance? The ultimate decision on testing is not his to make.
Vince, you speak as though implementing such changes would be as simple as waving a magic wand. First of all, there would need to be enough people behind such changes to initiate such modifications. Is there? If so, it doesn't seem as though they are making their voices heard. Secondly, complaining and offering vague hypotheticals offers little in the way of constructive input. It is easy to complain and suggest the way things should be, but how does one get there?
Bob is covering up the scale of drugs needed to compete in professional bodybuilding. I dare say that applies to the women as well. He is covering up his own usage because any disclosure taints his image. He needs to be seen as a good guy to compere shows, be on the radio, etc.
I did not experiment in 1970. I merely took some Dianabol. Many today do not believe what I took was sufficient to get any marked result from. There is no comparison to what the professionals are doing today. The scale is different, the stacking was unheard of, and the length of time on gear would have been considered foolhardy and downright insane in 1970.
If there are rules prohibiting banned substances then those rules should be followed and bodybuilding cleaned up. Nowadays we have no idea what is responsible for the huge muscles we see on many guys. When some go off the gear they resemble guys who might be into fitness and not bodybuilding. Levrone and Dillett are examples. The cost is great to use those substances and they are now considered illegal. If I were competing today I would do so only in natural contests like one of our gym members did and he won a natural Mr World and we are all proud of Ryan Laos.
Bob cannot be defended. He is part of the problem just as much as Manion and others are who control the sport. Bob has more power than he is letting on. His vote counts for something.
Lee Priest has been asking Bob on these forums for several years now about drug testing. Those requests fell on deaf ears. The IFBB won't test because they fear another organization getting all the top guys. They struggled too hard and too long to be the dominant organization in bodybuilding and won't relinquish any hold on power whatsoever. That much is certain from the legacy of Napoleon admirer and former life president Ben Weider.
They let the women have breast inserts and look at the debacle called women's bodybuilding. Almost no one admires what the women do because of the side effects of the drugs most use.
Where does our appointed and anointed pro athletes rep stand on the drug issue? He stated that no one cares so why should we! What an irresponsible thing to say. That is the calibre of foot soldier the Pro League recruits. Bob has made a living being the noble he-man but it has all gone to his head. Why would a decent bloke have to put shit on those who speak out against him? Answer: he has to keep up the bullshit because that is the way the IFBB operates. Keep the power at all costs and blame others for everything wrong in the sport.
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So you think it's up to Bob to rid the sport of bodybuilding of drugs? Sorry old man with great gym, but Bob isn't as powerful and influential as you seem to think he is. And drugs are here to stay. In bodybuilding and every other sport where size, strength and functional ability is a factor. And guess what, nobody really cares. You ever look at the comment section every time there's a steroid bust? Most think it's a waste of time. The only one who cares is LE. And they care a lot. The government always wants to increase it's power and control over the populace and decide what they think is right and good for you.
And why are you so concerned about what performance enhancing compounds he has used in his career? I'll can help you with that. Just write down all the PED you can think of and just assume he's used them. So what? It's illegal and it's against the rules and they all do it. No drugs, no bodybuilding. No drugs, no record breaking performances at the Olympics. It's just the way it is my Aussie friend. It's not going to change and nobody really cares. I know you don't like it but as my mom use to tell me when I said I didn't like something: "Too Bad! This world wasn't created just to please you."
Perhaps you should put more energy into getting in shape. The government here wants to put an additional tax on junk food because obesity is one the leading cause of heart disease. The leading killer in this country. If people were forced to eat better and exercise health care cost would plummet. But the question isn't always what's good for you but rather who should decide. If someone wants to eat themselves into grostesque obesity, body pierce themselves into oblivilion, tat themselves like a cartoon character, smoke until their lungs rot or use anabolics to become grostesquely muscular -- it's none of mine, or anybody elses, business.
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The ugly truth is that Bob is part of the Manion organization and things are going along smoothly. If someone else were doing that job then maybe things wouldn't be as smooth. That is the problem. The Pro League needs someone they get along with.
The pro league needed someone to work hand in hand in order to achieve some much needed change for the athletes...someone else WAS doing the job and not getting along(Shawn), which is why NOTHING was getting done and no progress was being made. That's why he vacated the position and suggested myself as his successor.
What amazes me is we are talking about a very small operation with less than 50 individuals involved. The men, that is. Why on earth they need any representatives is mysterious.
Not too bright, are you? Every pro org has a rep especially since big dollars are at stake. With a small group of athletes, representation is even MORE critical as they weren't getting any voice in the decisions being made, money being raised, etc...I guess in your world, being at the mercy of the federation is ideal...
Surely the Pro League should know how to run contests and keep everyone happy? Well, things change when big prize money is involved. Those behind the scenes have a lot invested and they don't need any trouble from the bodybuilders.
Which is why traditionally, they had no athlete rep...all was well for the federation. Why would they just all f a sudden start giving out more money to the athletes, when there was no opposition? They wouldn't, and they didn't.
Things have evolved in a way that few would have predicted years ago. How is it possible for a current governor of California to have a contest and show in his name and not be drug tested? That is completey bizarre and indicates that selective treatment is being given to professional bodybuilding.
So, the most influential person on this earth doesn't take any action on drug testing....but I should? Again, Basile...none of the athletes want to be tested (obviously)
While it is true that just about every open winner since 1970 took anabolic steroids the current drug culture far exceeds what anyone in those former days would have experimented with. It is now plain disgraceful and even lunacy to participate in professional bodybuilding. Doubly so for the female bodybuilders who acquire irreversible side effects of steroid use.
LOng before 1970, Basile...the rest of your drivel is irrelevant...todays regimine only exceeds the golden era because new stuff has been invented. Had they had it then, they would have taken it then. BTW...I do find it amusing that you believe that just because they had less to work with back then...that they didn't pound the shit out of anything they could get their hands on...LOL. With no perscriptions needed, no one giving a shit, cheap prices, almost no counterfit products out there, and everyone chasing Arnold....you believe some sort of "moral compass" led to guys saying" no thanks....I'll just take these 2 D-bol for a few weeks....I don't want to get TOO big..."
Bob is part of the coverup and therefore has to accept that he is partly responsible for what is happening in professional bodybuilding. That he isn't making demands to do drug testing on behalf of the bodybuilders is a great shame. Lee Priest has persistently requested that Bob do something but so far nothing has changed. It is business as usual there.
Lee Priest? Thats your knight in shining armour?? This the same Lee Priest who has yet to compete in a contest drug free? Same guy who has taken gear since he was a teen? Could have made a big, bold statement anytime he wanted by declaring that he would be competing without drugs...to "pave the way"....and whats with this "persistant request"? LOL....sorry Basile, only in your old, warped mind does talking smack on Getbig equate any "official" request....Lee has had my number for YEARS, I've seen him HUNDREDS of times at shows, expo's, etc....never once indicated he wanted anything.....except his ass back in the IFBB....which I helped to make happen.
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Ha Vince - yeah - as if Priest would ever want to compete drug free - not possible. I doubt he ever desired or requested that.