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What a fucking shill...
The propaganda has started.
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What a fucking shill...
The propaganda has started.
Doesnt matter,only about 15 people watch his shitty program.His ratings are such a joke that Geraldo laughs at him.
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Lots of people on here will lap this up.
I'm sure the "outcry" on GetBig would be deafening if this was Hannity.
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The left is utterly panicked over the thought of middle american rising up against their marxist revolution.
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He's wrong.
They're not terrorists.
They are contemptible selfish pig puppets.
But they aren't terrorists.
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He's wrong.
They're not terrorists.
They are contemptible selfish pig puppets.
But they aren't terrorists.
Funny,when its those thugs from ACORN they are great,when its people that actually have jobs,they are no good.Amusing.
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Funny,when its those thugs from ACORN they are great,when its people that actually have jobs,they are no good.Amusing.
Liberal playbook -
Black Panters terrorizing voters - good
Code Pink screaming everywhere - good
ELF - Good
PETA dousing people with blood - good
MoveOn.org - good
Granny & Gramps showing up at townhall - bad
People who protest illegal immigration - racists
Pro-life protestors - potential terrorists
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Funny,when its those thugs from ACORN they are great,when its people that actually have jobs,they are no good.Amusing.
What's amusing is you comparing a voter registration drive to inbred knuckleheads shouting down others at townhall meetings. Registering Mickey Mouse and physically intimidating an ideological opponent ain't the same.
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Liberal playbook -
Black Panters terrorizing voters - good
Code Pink screaming everywhere - good
ELF - Good
PETA dousing people with blood - good
MoveOn.org - good
Granny & Gramps showing up at townhall - bad
People who protest illegal immigration - racists
Pro-life protestors - potential terrorists
hahaha. What are you talking about?
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What's amusing is you comparing a voter registration drive to inbred knuckleheads shouting down others at townhall meetings. Registering Mickey Mouse and physically intimidating an ideological opponent ain't the same.
Thats 10000% correct Decker. What ACORN does is far worse since it invalidates your vote and mine.
Someone acting like a fool at a public town hall event that they pay for with their taxes and screaming at their employee, is perfectly within their rights.
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Thats 10000% correct Decker. What ACORN does is far worse since it invalidates your vote and mine.
Someone acting like a fool at a public town hall event that they pay for with their taxes and screaming at their employee, is perfectly within their rights.
I'll worry about your vote being invalidated when Mickey Mouse actually shows up to vote.
Otherwise it's another non-issue.
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I'll worry about your vote being invalidated when Mickey Mouse actually shows up to vote.
Otherwise it's another non-issue.
Decker - stop confusing "333" with the facts.
he wants to feel outraged and hysterical and he'll find a way regardless of what's going on in general consesus reality
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anyone here with a brain will admit both sides are using deception and puppeting their supporters, to get their way.
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Decker - stop confusing "333" with the facts.
he wants to feel outraged and hysterical and he'll find a way regardless of what's going on in general consesus reality
The Acorn Indictments
A union-backed outfit faces charges of election fraud. Friday, November 3, 2006 12:01 A.M. EST
So, less than a week before the midterm elections, four workers from Acorn, the liberal activist group that has registered millions of voters, have been indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms to the Kansas City, Missouri, election board. But hey, who needs voter ID laws?
We wish this were an aberration, but allegations of fraud have tainted Acorn voter drives across the country. Acorn workers have been convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado, and investigations are still under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania.
The good news for anyone who cares about voter integrity is that the Justice Department finally seems poised to connect these dots instead of dismissing such revelations as the work of a few yahoos. After the federal indictments were handed up in Kansas City this week, the U.S. Attorney's office said in a statement that "This national investigation is very much ongoing."
Let's hope so. Acorn officials bill themselves as nonpartisan community organizers merely interested in giving a voice to minorities and the poor. In reality, Acorn is a union-backed, multimillion-dollar outfit that uses intimidation and other tactics to push for higher minimum wage mandates and to trash Wal-Mart and other non-union companies.
Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), Acorn pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party. As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an "affordable housing trust fund" designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize Acorn, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.
Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey. During a Congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained Acorn's practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier.
"You have to wonder what's the point of that, if not to overwhelm the system and get phony registrations on the voter rolls," says Thor Hearne of the American Center for Voting Rights, who also testified at the hearing. "These were Democratic officials saying that they felt their election system in Ohio was under assault by these kinds of efforts to game the system."
Given this history, it's not surprising that Acorn is so hostile to voter identification laws and other efforts to ensure fairness and accuracy at the polls. In Missouri last month, the state Supreme Court held that a photo ID requirement to vote was overly burdensome and a violation of the state constitution. Acorn was behind the original suit challenging the statute, and it has brought similar challenges in several other states, including Ohio.
A recent Pew Research Center survey found that blacks today are almost twice as likely as they were in 2004 to say they have little or no confidence in the voting system. Such a finding would seem like a powerful argument for voter ID laws, which consistently poll well among people of all races and incomes and would increase confidence in the voting process. Of course, voter ID laws would also cut down on fraud, which, judging from the latest indictments, would put a real crimp in Acorn's style.
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anyone here with a brain will admit both sides are using deception and puppeting their supporters, to get their way.
Sure. That's true.
However the democrats, once in a great while legislate for the benefit of middle and lesser america. Just look at the healthcare debate.
The same cannot be said of the Republicans.
I honestly believe that in our lifetime we will see a concerted effort by the american Right to repeal child labor laws. After all, what business is it of big government to deny children the opportunity to learn a trade?
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What's amusing is you comparing a voter registration drive to inbred knuckleheads shouting down others at townhall meetings. Registering Mickey Mouse and physically intimidating an ideological opponent ain't the same.
Thugs intimidating people like executives at AIG by showing up at their house and screaming at their kids is what ACORN does.Stop trying to cover up their thug bullshit.Im going to a couple of Mike Pence town halls this month,Im praying that ACORN or those pussy union fage show up and scream at me.Im not granny.Some union pussy or ACORN punk ass comes toward me and they will be leaving for the hospital.Enough of the left intimidating people.
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The Acorn Indictments
A union-backed outfit faces charges of election fraud. Friday, November 3, 2006 12:01 A.M. EST
So, less than a week before the midterm elections, four workers from Acorn, the liberal activist group that has registered millions of voters, have been indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms to the Kansas City, Missouri, election board. But hey, who needs voter ID laws?
We wish this were an aberration, but allegations of fraud have tainted Acorn voter drives across the country. Acorn workers have been convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado, and investigations are still under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania.
The good news for anyone who cares about voter integrity is that the Justice Department finally seems poised to connect these dots instead of dismissing such revelations as the work of a few yahoos. After the federal indictments were handed up in Kansas City this week, the U.S. Attorney's office said in a statement that "This national investigation is very much ongoing."
Let's hope so. Acorn officials bill themselves as nonpartisan community organizers merely interested in giving a voice to minorities and the poor. In reality, Acorn is a union-backed, multimillion-dollar outfit that uses intimidation and other tactics to push for higher minimum wage mandates and to trash Wal-Mart and other non-union companies.
Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), Acorn pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party. As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an "affordable housing trust fund" designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize Acorn, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.
Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey. During a Congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained Acorn's practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier.
"You have to wonder what's the point of that, if not to overwhelm the system and get phony registrations on the voter rolls," says Thor Hearne of the American Center for Voting Rights, who also testified at the hearing. "These were Democratic officials saying that they felt their election system in Ohio was under assault by these kinds of efforts to game the system."
Given this history, it's not surprising that Acorn is so hostile to voter identification laws and other efforts to ensure fairness and accuracy at the polls. In Missouri last month, the state Supreme Court held that a photo ID requirement to vote was overly burdensome and a violation of the state constitution. Acorn was behind the original suit challenging the statute, and it has brought similar challenges in several other states, including Ohio.
A recent Pew Research Center survey found that blacks today are almost twice as likely as they were in 2004 to say they have little or no confidence in the voting system. Such a finding would seem like a powerful argument for voter ID laws, which consistently poll well among people of all races and incomes and would increase confidence in the voting process. Of course, voter ID laws would also cut down on fraud, which, judging from the latest indictments, would put a real crimp in Acorn's style.
ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I recall the wisconsin case. I live there. The felony was improperly employing felons to use as workers. Wow. That could be said about a sizable portion of Bush the Lessers' administration.
"Overwhelming the system"....I had no idea Dick Tracy showed up to vote along with Mary Poppins and Jive Turkey.
I now see the threat posed by this felonious behavior.
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Thugs intimidating people like executives at AIG by showing up at their house and screaming at their kids is what ACORN does.Stop trying to cover up their thug bullshit.Im going to a couple of Mike Pence town halls this month,Im praying that ACORN or those pussy union fage show up and scream at me.Im not granny.Some union pussy or ACORN punk ass comes toward me and they will be leaving for the hospital.Enough of the left intimidating people.
Good point!
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The Acorn Indictments
A union-backed outfit faces charges of election fraud. Friday, November 3, 2006 12:01 A.M. EST
So, less than a week before the midterm elections, four workers from Acorn, the liberal activist group that has registered millions of voters, have been indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms to the Kansas City, Missouri, election board. But hey, who needs voter ID laws?
We wish this were an aberration, but allegations of fraud have tainted Acorn voter drives across the country. Acorn workers have been convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado, and investigations are still under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania.
The good news for anyone who cares about voter integrity is that the Justice Department finally seems poised to connect these dots instead of dismissing such revelations as the work of a few yahoos. After the federal indictments were handed up in Kansas City this week, the U.S. Attorney's office said in a statement that "This national investigation is very much ongoing."
Let's hope so. Acorn officials bill themselves as nonpartisan community organizers merely interested in giving a voice to minorities and the poor. In reality, Acorn is a union-backed, multimillion-dollar outfit that uses intimidation and other tactics to push for higher minimum wage mandates and to trash Wal-Mart and other non-union companies.
Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), Acorn pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party. As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an "affordable housing trust fund" designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize Acorn, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.
Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey. During a Congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained Acorn's practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier.
"You have to wonder what's the point of that, if not to overwhelm the system and get phony registrations on the voter rolls," says Thor Hearne of the American Center for Voting Rights, who also testified at the hearing. "These were Democratic officials saying that they felt their election system in Ohio was under assault by these kinds of efforts to game the system."
Given this history, it's not surprising that Acorn is so hostile to voter identification laws and other efforts to ensure fairness and accuracy at the polls. In Missouri last month, the state Supreme Court held that a photo ID requirement to vote was overly burdensome and a violation of the state constitution. Acorn was behind the original suit challenging the statute, and it has brought similar challenges in several other states, including Ohio.
A recent Pew Research Center survey found that blacks today are almost twice as likely as they were in 2004 to say they have little or no confidence in the voting system. Such a finding would seem like a powerful argument for voter ID laws, which consistently poll well among people of all races and incomes and would increase confidence in the voting process. Of course, voter ID laws would also cut down on fraud, which, judging from the latest indictments, would put a real crimp in Acorn's style.
let's see some facts on how many actual fraudulent votes were cast?
you should be much more concerned about the black box voting machines that steal votes on a wholesale basis and actually change the outcome of elections.
that's if you really actually care about an accurate and honest vote
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let's see some facts on how many actual fraudulent votes were cast?
you should be much more concerned about the black box voting machines that steal votes on a wholesale basis and actually change the outcome of elections.
that's if you really actually care about an accurate and honest vote
A lot of republicans are smug about 2004 Ohio.
if things are close in 2012, and Obama squeaks out a close win with some fishy last-minute polling irregularites, watch them become CTers, shitting their pants with anger.
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A lot of republicans are smug about 2004 Ohio.
if things are close in 2012, and Obama squeaks out a close win with some fishy last-minute polling irregularites, watch them become CTers, shitting their pants with anger.
and watch you dismiss it while burying your head in the sand...240 youre the biggest d bag on this board you are constantly shown to be a dip shit time and time again, a spinner, bold faced liar and yet you have the balls to say shit like this about others ::) only on getbig man
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A lot of republicans are smug about 2004 Ohio.
if things are close in 2012, and Obama squeaks out a close win with some fishy last-minute polling irregularites, watch them become CTers, shitting their pants with anger.
Well,maybe he can just send out those gutless punk ass black panthers to scare voters away.Obviously there would be no charges.
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Well,maybe he can just send out those gutless punk ass black panthers to scare voters away.Obviously there would be no charges.
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May 2, 1933 in History
Event:
In Germany, Adolf Hitler bans trade unions
http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1933/may_2_1933_91972.html
Even Hitler saw the threat posed by unions.
In Mein Kampf, he lauded them as necessary then once in power, he got all republican on them.
Some Socialist, hey?
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May 2, 1933 in History
Event:
In Germany, Adolf Hitler bans trade unions
http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1933/may_2_1933_91972.html
Even Hitler saw the threat posed by unions.
In Mein Kampf, he lauded them as necessary then once in power, he got all republican on them.
Some Socialist, hey?
Hitler also took over the health care system in Germany in order to control ever aspect of Germans lives.Sound familiar?
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Hitler also took over the health care system in Germany in order to control ever aspect of Germans lives.Sound familiar?
and got ppl to rat on their friends and neighbors...lol
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Hitler also took over the health care system in Germany in order to control ever aspect of Germans lives.Sound familiar?
No he didn't. UHC preceded the rightwing nazis by some 50-60 years.
http://www.photius.com/countries/germany/society/germany_society_development_of_the_h~1372.html
Bismark was ahead of his time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck#Health_Insurance_Bill_of_1883
If I were cynical, I'd point out your response is typical for those attacking UHC...you just make shit up to prove your point.
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If I were cynical, I'd point out your response is typical for those attacking UHC...you just make shit up to prove your point.
;D
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No he didn't. UHC preceded the rightwing nazis by some 50-60 years.
http://www.photius.com/countries/germany/society/germany_society_development_of_the_h~1372.html
Bismark was ahead of his time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck#Health_Insurance_Bill_of_1883
If I were cynical, I'd point out your response is typical for those attacking UHC...you just make shit up to prove your point.
Do you know what NAZI stands for? National Socialism, how is socialism right wing? Nazi's were for cradle to the grave healthcare.
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Do you know what NAZI stands for? National Socialism, how is socialism right wing? Nazi's were for cradle to the grave healthcare.
Did the german workers own the means of production?
The idea that workers controlled the means of production in Nazi Germany is a bitter joke. It was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism. Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi "Charter of Labor" gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the "leader of the enterprise," and read: "The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise."(1)
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm
1. William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1960), p. 263.
So the Nazi political/economic frame resembled the Fascist leaning Bush II administration more than anything else - financial elites mixing with governmental 'opportunities.'
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No he didn't. UHC preceded the rightwing nazis by some 50-60 years.
http://www.photius.com/countries/germany/society/germany_society_development_of_the_h~1372.html
Bismark was ahead of his time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck#Health_Insurance_Bill_of_1883
If I were cynical, I'd point out your response is typical for those attacking UHC...you just make shit up to prove your point.
Bismarck took it over,then it went away from government control,then Hitler took it back over as one of the mainstays of his government.
By the way,to say the NAZIS were left wing or right wing AND THEN COMPARE TO TO AMERICA IS SILLY.The Germans were one folk,they were the same and those that werent were eliminated.Here we have too may races with their own agendas to try to compare it to ANYTHING the Germans did.
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Did the german workers own the means of production?
The idea that workers controlled the means of production in Nazi Germany is a bitter joke. It was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism. Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi "Charter of Labor" gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the "leader of the enterprise," and read: "The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise."(1)
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm
1. William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1960), p. 263.
So the Nazi political/economic frame resembled the Fascist leaning Bush II administration more than anything else - financial elites mixing with governmental 'opportunities.'
Oh, and Obama's takeover of GM, the banks, cap & trade, the goldman sachs cronies, etc is not the same thing??????
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Did the german workers own the means of production?
The idea that workers controlled the means of production in Nazi Germany is a bitter joke. It was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism. Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi "Charter of Labor" gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the "leader of the enterprise," and read: "The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise."(1)
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm
1. William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1960), p. 263.
So the Nazi political/economic frame resembled the Fascist leaning Bush II administration more than anything else - financial elites mixing with governmental 'opportunities.'
Ah Bush is president anymore, if you think that the same thing isn't happening under Obama, I've got some ocean front property for sale in Indiana. You need to take a long hard look at the government and you might understand they don't fucking care what you or I want, they only care about what they want. And what do they want? More power and more control.
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Bismarck took it over,then it went away from government control,then Hitler took it back over as one of the mainstays of his government.
No it didn't. It's still in effect to this day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Germany
By the way,to say the NAZIS were left wing or right wing AND THEN COMPARE TO TO AMERICA IS SILLY.The Germans were one folk,they were the same and those that werent were eliminated.Here we have too may races with their own agendas to try to compare it to ANYTHING the Germans did.
Einstein was a German.
The corporate/elitest gambit is not even essential of Nazism. It's just that both the republicans of the US, as repped by Bush, and the Nazis of Germany believed in prosperity through the marriage of big privately owned business and government. (and ransacking foreign countries for profit)
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Oh, and Obama's takeover of GM, the banks, cap & trade, the goldman sachs cronies, etc is not the same thing??????
No they are not.
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No they are not.
Why are they not? Because "your" guy is doing it?
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No they are not.
Please Decker - you are a complete joke. What about firing the CEO of GM and the treatment of the Chrysler bondholders?
What about the 28 CZARS?
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Why are they not? Because "your" guy is doing it?
Rather than prove a negative, you tell me why the nexus exists.
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Rather than prove a negative, you tell me why the nexus exists.
The government tookover Chrysler, GM, the banks, and is trying to take over energy and health care.
Yet in Deckers little dream world this is not fascism.
only because its Obama. If Bush did this you would be screaming.
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Please Decker - you are a complete joke. What about firing the CEO of GM and the treatment of the Chrysler bondholders?
What about the 28 CZARS?
Does the firing of the CEO of GM sound like a marriage btn private business owners and big government?
Or does Bush's big gov. working hand-in-glove with guys like Kenny Boy Lay and big tobacco, and big lumber, and big oil, etc. sound a little closer to the matter at hand? Didn't Bush kick unions in the balls by scrapping worker safety laws? What about freeing up the housing market by scrapping mortgage oversight laws? How about the decimation of investment oversight regulations. How'd those compare? How'd those work out?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/apr/27/usa.julianborger
28 Czars?
You bring up a valid point.
Just a second. hahahahahahaha
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Does the firing of the CEO of GM sound like a marriage btn private business owners and big government?
Or does Bush's big gov. working hand-in-glove with guys like Kenny Boy Lay and big tobacco, and big lumber, and big oil, etc. sound a little closer to the matter at hand? Didn't Bush kick unions in the balls by scrapping worker safety laws? What about freeing up the housing market by scrapping mortgage oversight laws? How about the decimation of investment oversight regulations. How'd those compare? How'd those work out?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/apr/27/usa.julianborger
28 Czars?
You bring up a valid point.
Just a second. hahahahahahaha
He fired the CEO of GM so he could appoint his own people in there.
You really are blind. If Bush did anything like Obama is doing you would be apoplectic.
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The government tookover Chrysler, GM, the banks, and is trying to take over energy and health care.
Yet in Deckers little dream world this is not fascism.
only because its Obama. If Bush did this you would be screaming.
It's not fascism.
Why don't you tell us what fascism is and why a bailout of GM and the banks is fascist?
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He fired the CEO of GM so he could appoint his own people in there.
You really are blind. If Bush did anything like Obama is doing you would be apoplectic.
Really?
So now you are making my arguments for me. Why should I bother?
What is fascism and what is fascist about the bail outs?
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Really?
So now you are making my arguments for me. Why should I bother?
What is fascism and what is fascist about the bail outs?
The bailouts are fascistic in the sense that the government demanded ownership as a condition of the bailout.
We have bankruptcy laws for a reason and these failed entities should have gone through that process the normal way without the govt demanding ownership and control.
But what do you care? Obama can do anything and its ok.
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The bailouts are fascistic in the sense that the government demanded ownership as a condition of the bailout.
We have bankruptcy laws for a reason and these failed entities should have gone through that process the normal way without the govt demanding ownership and control.
But what do you care? Obama can do anything and its ok.
What is a fascism?
How does the government's 60% ownership of a company that was doomed to death constitute fascism?
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Does the firing of the CEO of GM sound like a marriage btn private business owners and big government?
Or does Bush's big gov. working hand-in-glove with guys like Kenny Boy Lay and big tobacco, and big lumber, and big oil, etc. sound a little closer to the matter at hand? Didn't Bush kick unions in the balls by scrapping worker safety laws? What about freeing up the housing market by scrapping mortgage oversight laws? How about the decimation of investment oversight regulations. How'd those compare? How'd those work out?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/apr/27/usa.julianborger
28 Czars?
You bring up a valid point.Just a second. hahahahahahaha
You are operating under the illusion that the President can just do whatever he wants. There is a system of checks and balances. The appointing of these Czars is bullshit because of the simple fact there is no congressional oversite, yet these guys seem to have all this power. What about the Pay Czar? Where does he get his power to decide how much money people can make? Congress didn't give it to him, so now you are OK if the POTUS just decides that some guy he appoints is going to decide how much you can make? That is not only bullshit it usurps the constitution and checks and balances that the government is supposed to run under. If that isn't fucking fascism I don't know what is.
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What is a fascism?
How does the government's 60% ownership of a company that was doomed to death constitute fascism?
FROM WIKIPEDIA
fascism (usually uncountable; plural fascisms)
A political regime, usually totalitarian, ideologically based on centralized government, government control of business, repression of criticism or opposition, a leader cult and exalting the state and/or religion above individual rights. Originally only applied (usually capitalized) to Benito Mussolini's Italy.
By vague analogy, any system of strong autocracy or oligarchy usually to the extent of bending and breaking the law, race-baiting and violence against largely unarmed populations.
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That definition fits the Obamanation to the tee.
1. Centralized Govt - Check
2. Government control of business - Check
3. Cult like following - check
4. Repression of opposition - getting there by the day - Obama snitch program is a good start to this.
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Thugs intimidating people like executives at AIG by showing up at their house and screaming at their kids is what ACORN does.Stop trying to cover up their thug bullshit.Im going to a couple of Mike Pence town halls this month,Im praying that ACORN or those pussy union fage show up and scream at me.Im not granny.Some union pussy or ACORN punk ass comes toward me and they will be leaving for the hospital.Enough of the left intimidating people.
Ya tough guy, ...you do that, ...and while they leave for the hospital, ...the cops will be carting your ass off to jail.
Good Luck with the adoption after that! Why don't you just go to the meeting and keep your mouth shut, and let the presenters speak? You might actually learn something rather than relying on Nancy Reagan's War on Drugs mantra. It was as bs and ineffectual 25 yrs ago as it is today. Sheesh, ...when are these Republicans going to come up with something new & fresh, rather than regurgitating stupid one liners from the 80's. I feel like I should get a pair of parachute pants and start playing tunes by bleached out Glam Rockers in spandex pants wearing shaggy mullets. ::)
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Actually, the govt only took over these companies after they came to the govt and begged for $.
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Actually, the govt only took over these companies after they came to the govt and begged for $.
i guess that makes it ok, right?
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You are operating under the illusion that the President can just do whatever he wants. There is a system of checks and balances. The appointing of these Czars is bullshit because of the simple fact there is no congressional oversite, yet these guys seem to have all this power. What about the Pay Czar? Where does he get his power to decide how much money people can make? Congress didn't give it to him, so now you are OK if the POTUS just decides that some guy he appoints is going to decide how much you can make? That is not only bullshit it usurps the constitution and checks and balances that the government is supposed to run under.
bump.
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bump.
Yeah I noticed there was no reply
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Yeah I noticed there was no reply
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You are operating under the illusion that the President can just do whatever he wants. There is a system of checks and balances. The appointing of these Czars is bullshit because of the simple fact there is no congressional oversite, yet these guys seem to have all this power. What about the Pay Czar? Where does he get his power to decide how much money people can make? Congress didn't give it to him, so now you are OK if the POTUS just decides that some guy he appoints is going to decide how much you can make? That is not only bullshit it usurps the constitution and checks and balances that the government is supposed to run under. If that isn't fucking fascism I don't know what is.
You have pointed out nothing that indicates President Obama abused his constitutional power or sought to illegally subvert congressional will or oversight.
You're bellyaching. Otherwise I'm certain there will be impeachment proceedings.
This is your chance to make a difference.
It's not like Obama implemented a domestic spy program...a felony violation of FISA.
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You have pointed out nothing that indicates President Obama abused his constitutional power or sought to illegally subvert congressional will or oversight.
You're bellyaching. Otherwise I'm certain there will be impeachment proceedings.
This is your chance to make a difference.
It's not like Obama implemented a domestic spy program...a felony violation of FISA.
Really? Giving someone he appoints no congressional oversight, to decide what people in the private sector make is not abusing constitutional powers. You sir don't have a fucking clue how the checks and balances of the Federal Government are supposed to work. I'm bellyaching? Your a sheep, you follow the shepard even if it mean walking off a cliff.
Yeah bring up Bush, again and again and again, which has absolutly nothing to do with what Obama is doing. Why are there no impeachment hearings? Because not one member of congress has the stones to rock the boat. Because they know if they do all the skeletons will be dragged out of their closet and they will be out of a job.
Why don't you wake the up, the government does not care about you, they don't care about America, they care about what keeps them in power and gives them more power and more control.
It doesn't matter if is Democrat or Rebulican, they are all politicians, the contempt they have for the people of America is sickening. And this can be seen when there is any disention to their "we know best" attitude. They can't even answer a question, I for one am sick and tired of watching a politican asked a question and then bable on for 5 minutes and not only not answer the question but say absolutly nothing.
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Really? Giving someone he appoints no congressional oversight, to decide what people in the private sector make is not abusing constitutional powers. You sir don't have a fucking clue how the checks and balances of the Federal Government are supposed to work. I'm bellyaching? Your a sheep, you follow the shepard even if it mean walking off a cliff.
What constitutional power is Obama abusing? What statute did he violate? What has he done with 'czars' that any president of the last 40 years hasn't?
Yeah bring up Bush, again and again and again, which has absolutly nothing to do with what Obama is doing. Why are there no impeachment hearings? Because not one member of congress has the stones to rock the boat. Because they know if they do all the skeletons will be dragged out of their closet and they will be out of a job.
Yeah, you don't want to open that can of worms.
Why don't you wake the up, the government does not care about you, they don't care about America, they care about what keeps them in power and gives them more power and more control.
We are the government.
It doesn't matter if is Democrat or Rebulican, they are all politicians, the contempt they have for the people of America is sickening. And this can be seen when there is any disention to their "we know best" attitude. They can't even answer a question, I for one am sick and tired of watching a politican asked a question and then bable on for 5 minutes and not only not answer the question but say absolutly nothing.
The american people get the politicians they deserve. They vote in people, for the most part, who bring home federal spending.
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What constitutional power is Obama abusing? What statute did he violate? What has he done with 'czars' that any president of the last 40 years hasn't?
Yeah, you don't want to open that can of worms.
We are the government.
The american people get the politicians they deserve. They vote in people, for the most part, who bring home federal spending.
1)You see that is the problem he has no constitutional authority to appoint a "CZAR" to decide what someone in the private sector makes, the constitution is what protects Ameicans from the federal government not the other way around. It doesn't matter if its been done for the last 40 years its still bullshit no matter is or was doing it and they should be called to the carpet for it.
2) It is what it is, the sad truth is the people who want to be politicians, are usually the worst choice.
3) We used to be the government, now we are treated with contempt by our elected officials. I think it's about time they were reminded who works for whom.
4) Sad but true, see 2
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“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”- C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock p. 92
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“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”- C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock p. 92
That quote is always one of my favorites.
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1)You see that is the problem he has no constitutional authority to appoint a "CZAR" to decide what someone in the private sector makes, the constitution is what protects Ameicans from the federal government not the other way around. It doesn't matter if its been done for the last 40 years its still bullshit no matter is or was doing it and they should be called to the carpet for it.
2) It is what it is, the sad truth is the people who want to be politicians, are usually the worst choice.
3) We used to be the government, now we are treated with contempt by our elected officials. I think it's about time they were reminded who works for whom.
4) Sad but true, see 2
+1
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1)You see that is the problem he has no constitutional authority to appoint a "CZAR" to decide what someone in the private sector makes, the constitution is what protects Ameicans from the federal government not the other way around. It doesn't matter if its been done for the last 40 years its still bullshit no matter is or was doing it and they should be called to the carpet for it.
2) It is what it is, the sad truth is the people who want to be politicians, are usually the worst choice.
3) We used to be the government, now we are treated with contempt by our elected officials. I think it's about time they were reminded who works for whom.
4) Sad but true, see 2
This is the nature of politics that make its practice tough - people get the political representation they want and deserve. Everybody wants their piece of the pie. There's only so much pie and so many pieces to hand out.
We bemoan gov. spending but we keep electing politicians who bring home the bacon to the voters.
Outside of a dictatorship, I don't see that dynamic changing.