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Nasser's back destroying everyone right there.
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What is this for?
IFBB is well contaminated.
Dorian has lost 2 times at least to Nasser. :-\
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Nasser's shitstain looks suprisingly small for a man weighing 300 lbs (with abbs mind you). He clearly takes his dumps with class.
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3 times ( at least ) uncrowned Mr Germany
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awesome post kiwiol......as usual,............profound, pithy, poignant :) :)
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:D
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8)
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:D
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Not bad, but you don't get the vibe of the thread - I thought we could make it a bit different than the usual thing. Like you countering with a pic of Nasser having dinner with a nice chick vs Dorian serving drinks with a black eye or something like that ;D
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yeah...yates was all great and stuff, but he is f##kin muscle just clump together. fly from england, hit a couple of poses for joe and ben and back home with the cheque.
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No matter which ever way you look at it.
No matter how many nasser guy tears are shed.
No matter how many pics are posted.
The record still stands
Mr Olympia - Dorian Yates 6X
Nasser El Sonbaty 0
Compare their overall competition records and Yates still wins.
FACT
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:o :o :o :o :o :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=293385.0;attach=333590;image)
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Not bad, but you don't get the vibe of the thread - I thought we could make it a bit different than the usual thing. Like you countering with a pic of Nasser having dinner with a nice chick vs Dorian serving drinks with a black eye or something like that ;D
At your service ;) Except I didn't save the Dorian black eye picture or serving drinks...I can probably sift through the Hulkster Truce thread to find a few :D
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These comparison pictures prove nothing when the 96 Mr. O video shows Dorian dominating the field, including Nasser.
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:o :o :o :o :o :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=293385.0;attach=333590;image)
Incredible shot isn't it?! Huge, hard, ripped, perfect everything - right down to abs, calves and even glasses.
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At your service ;) Except I didn't save the Dorian black eye picture or serving drinks...I can probably sift through the Hulkster Truce thread to find a few :D
These comparison threads keep cropping up all the time, so I think we should branch out a bit, rather than post the same old pics from the contests everyone has seen and discussed a million times over. I'm sure Hulkster will post the Doz with a black eye pic.
I'm Dorian's fan like you are Nasser's, so we should try and get some entertainment out of it, rather than get all serious about who was better all the time. Hence this thread.
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Incredible shot isn't it?! Huge, hard, ripped, perfect everything - right down to abs, calves and even glasses.
Actualy. He is No2 in the bbing history for me(No1 is Ronnie..of course)
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All hail Nasser ;D
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:D
perfect response for a stupid thread.
anyone with eyes can see how huge nasser is destroying yates in these pics 8)
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These comparison threads keep cropping up all the time, so I think we should branch out a bit, rather than post the same old pics from the contests everyone has seen and discussed a million times over. I'm sure Hulkster will post the Doz with a black eye pic.
I'm Dorian's fan like you are Nasser's, so we should try and get some entertainment out of it, rather than get all serious about who was better all the time. Hence this thread.
I appreciate what you tried to do with this thread, but cmon, you're smarter than that. This is getbig, home of the schmoe.
If there was an uncrowned mr olympia contest, nasser would be the champ(3 times at least)(movie star good looks)
;D ;D
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Kiwiol not getting enough attention in real life?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=212746.0;attach=249167;image)
This is a fine example on why (along with Paul Dillet) Dorian was never beaten, ladies and gentleman.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=212746.0;attach=249167;image)
This is a fine example on why (along with Paul Dillet) Dorian was never beaten, ladies and gentleman.
hahahaha all hail Nasser 3 time ( at least ) uncrowned Mr Olympia FROM THE FRONT ;D
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which is worse?
tough to tell: :P
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which is worse?
tough to tell: :P
One sells used thongs...
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Dorian once took a dump that placed two spots ahead of Nascar at a show...
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One sells used thongs...
and the other gets beat up and has to panhandle backstage.. ;D
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These comparison threads keep cropping up all the time, so I think we should branch out a bit, rather than post the same old pics from the contests everyone has seen and discussed a million times over. I'm sure Hulkster will post the Doz with a black eye pic.
I'm Dorian's fan like you are Nasser's, so we should try and get some entertainment out of it, rather than get all serious about who was better all the time. Hence this thread.
this thread did a great a wonderful job of getting team nasshole buzzing around here like a bunch of gay little hornets................. .........they are so delusional, bobs and sherief consider themselves part of an actual debate.........while everyone else see them as the punchline of a joke, a joke which always ends with them getting laughed at and castigated.
they dont realize that no one even gives a fuck anymore, and probably havent in at least years.........truely sickening little arabs they are
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An amazing flow chart right there ;)
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and the other gets beat up and has to panhandle backstage.. ;D
And the other one gets arrested for impersonating a police officer ;)
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which is worse?
tough to tell: :P
easy to tell ;)
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This is a fine example on why (along with Paul Dillet) Dorian was never beaten, ladies and gentleman.
How does a picture of Nasser onstage just weeks after he nearly died yet chose to go onstage regardless to honour his commitment (unlike Flex Wheeler who lies to fans and backs out when he knows he wont be in shape) work as an example of why Dorian was never beaten? In actuality, relevant comparison pics from shows like the 97 Olympia show that Dorian was never beaten due to bias and political reasons, since those pictures show that Nasser in great shape while Dorian had "a huge belly, a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, freshly torn left triceps, a left quad tear, a right quad tear, and a torn right hip" (words from Nasser himself in his 1st interview with BB.com)
this thread did a great a wonderful job of getting team nasshole buzzing around here like a bunch of gay little hornets................. .........they are so delusional, bobs and sherief consider themselves part of an actual debate.........while everyone else see them as the punchline of a joke, a joke which always ends with them getting laughed at and castigated.
they dont realize that no one even gives a fuck anymore, and probably havent in at least years.........truely sickening little arabs they are
You give enough of a fuck to keep replying in Nasser threads with your angry, meltdown posts. You've got to be the angriest getbigger, at least half of your posts are meltdowns. I'm not the only one who has posted about your anger either.
These comparison threads keep cropping up all the time, so I think we should branch out a bit, rather than post the same old pics from the contests everyone has seen and discussed a million times over. I'm sure Hulkster will post the Doz with a black eye pic.
I'm Dorian's fan like you are Nasser's, so we should try and get some entertainment out of it, rather than get all serious about who was better all the time. Hence this thread.
I know you are doing it for entertainment, but some others do get pretty angry and emotional over it (like MethodGNA above for example).
Actualy. He is No2 in the bbing history for me(No1 is Ronnie..of course)
Nasser and Ronnie are each one of a kind and above all other pro bodybuilders of any time period.
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In actuality, relevant comparison pics from shows like the 97 Olympia show that Dorian was never beaten due to bias and political reasons, since those pictures show that Nasser in great shape while Dorian had "a huge belly, a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, freshly torn left triceps, a left quad tear, a right quad tear, and a torn right hip" (words from Nasser himself in his 1st interview with BB.com)
it wasnt just the 97 shows.
fact is, post tear dorian was never marked down for his serious flaws, like the torn bi, poor quads, horrid front shot in the symmetry round, twigs on a barrel sized arms (ie bad proportion) etc.
the judges always looked the other way.
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it wasnt just the 97 shows.
fact is, post tear dorian was never marked down for his serious flaws, like the torn bi, poor quads, horrid front shot in the symmetry round, twigs on a barrel sized arms (ie bad proportion) etc.
the judges always looked the other way.
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I agree that Yates did not deserve the 96 Olympia either and maybe even 95. He had the reigning Mr. Olympia holder to his advantage as well as friendships with judges and others with influence in the IFBB.
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97 is arguable. The rest of his wins were clear and convincing. Jesus, to claim he didn't deserve 95 shows just how biased you guys have become, he absolutely dominated that year.
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All hail Nasser ;D
3 Times, at least, Mr. Synthol.
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Nasser and Ronnie are each one of a kind and above all other pro bodybuilders of any time period.
Yet neither could beat Dorian ever ;)
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Rumor has it, Nasser wields a teensy pee pee.
"Cute," but teensy.
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Rumor has it, Nasser wields a teensy pee pee.
"Cute," but teensy.
LMFAO
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I agree that Yates did not deserve the 96 Olympia either and maybe even 95. He had the reigning Mr. Olympia holder to his advantage as well as friendships with judges and others with influence in the IFBB.
You've lost all credibility right there, especially with regard to your comment on the '95 contest. Yates smashed everyone, it wasn't even close.
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You've lost all credibility right there, especially with regard to your comment on the '95 contest. Yates smashed everyone, it wasn't even close.
Ironically he's like Hulkster in a lot of ways , Dummy Hulkster claims Yates lost in 1993 and Bobs in 1995 lol
I mean these guys are so far separated from reality it's not even charming
Team Crybaby
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Ironically he's like Hulkster in a lot of ways , Dummy Hulkster claims Yates lost in 1993 and Bobs in 1995 lol
I mean these guys are so far separated from reality it's not even charming
Team Crybaby
I just laugh how they attach their hopes and dreams to select photos to distract themselves from reality. All one has to do is view the videos and you can see how Yates utterly destroys Nasser with his superior overall density and development. Nasser looks extremely incomplete, especially when he turns to the side, or turns around. Even from the front, as good as he looks at times, it always looks like he is missing something. Not to mention that Nasser can't pose for shit.
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I just laugh how they attach their hopes and dreams to select photos to distract themselves from reality. All one has to do is view the videos and you can see how Yates utterly destroys Nasser with his superior overall density and development. Nasser looks extremely incomplete, especially when he turns to the side, or turns around. Even from the front, as good as he looks at times, it always looks like he is missing something.
it's funny how insane they are Nasser said outright Yates destroyed everyone in 1995 , NO ONE and I mean NO ONE who knows the first thing about the sport would dare utter Dorian didn't beat everyone hands down in 1995 nevermind say he should have lost except these two biased haters , Hulkster claims Dorian was vastly overrated and shouldn't have won ANY Olympia after 93 lol no Bobs is second guessing 95 LMMFAO
poor guys history will always own them
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it's funny how insane they are Nasser said outright Yates destroyed everyone in 1995 , NO ONE and I mean NO ONE who knows the first thing about the sport would dare utter Dorian didn't beat everyone hands down in 1995 nevermind say he should have lost except these two biased haters , Hulkster claims Dorian was vastly overrated and shouldn't have won ANY Olympia after 93 lol no Bobs is second guessing 95 LMMFAO
poor guys history will always own them
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=NraASqmfMYzblQeagIWeCA&hl=en
A pre-judging massacre at the hands of Dorian. I can recall Paul Dillett commenting how awesome Dorian was and how he was glad he was nowhere near him onstage.
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easy to tell ;)
Bahahaha
at least dorian knew when to get out
wont be long before nuttin but a cashew man hasta sell off his sandows....so sad
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http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=NraASqmfMYzblQeagIWeCA&hl=en
A pre-judging massacre at the hands of Dorian. I can recall Paul Dillett commenting how awesome Dorian was and how he was glad he was nowhere near him onstage.
Dillett who's not known to hand out compliments said he saw Jesus Christ and his name was Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr Olympia
to claim Yates lost beyond retarded
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Dillett who's not known to hand out compliments said he saw Jesus Christ and his name was Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr Olympia
to claim Yates lost beyond retarded
I like it! "Team Huckster, Beyond Retarded".
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I agree that Yates did not deserve the 96 Olympia either and maybe even 95. He had the reigning Mr. Olympia holder to his advantage as well as friendships with judges and others with influence in the IFBB.
QFT!
how many times do i have to mention the Yates- Weinberger-manion bum chum club??
whos' on the judging panel- weinberger,
whos the head judge- manion
whos house did yates stay @? weinberger
where do manion and weinberger stay when they visited england? yates' house
corrupt IFBB officials gave Yates 1994 over ray, 1993 over wheeler, 92+1995 over levrone, 1996+ 1997 over nasser.
Yates never had an uncontroversial , clear cut O win- many talk of 1993 but many many ppl had Flex winning that year.
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QFT!
how many times do i have to mention the Yates- Weinberger-manion bum chum club??
whos' on the judging panel- weinberger,
whos the head judge- manion
whos house did yates stay @? weinberger
where do manion and weinberger stay when they visited england? yates' house
corrupt IFBB officials gave Yates 1994 over ray, 1993 over wheeler, 92+1995 over levrone, 1996+ 1997 over nasser.
Yates never had an uncontroversial , clear cut O win- many talk of 1993 but many many ppl had Flex winning that year.
meltdown
name one person who had Flex in 93 besides Hulkster I'll be waiting
I already corrected you before... Weinberger judged Yates just ONCE at the NOC he placed him behind Momo ;) so much for that excuse and so much for discrimination against Arab's need anything else corrected?
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go back and watch the 1992-1997 olympia tapes and see who is on the judging panels and who the head judge is.
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QFT!
how many times do i have to mention the Yates- Weinberger-manion bum chum club??
whos' on the judging panel- weinberger,
whos the head judge- manion
whos house did yates stay @? weinberger
where do manion and weinberger stay when they visited england? yates' house
corrupt IFBB officials gave Yates 1994 over ray, 1993 over wheeler, 92+1995 over levrone, 1996+ 1997 over nasser.
Yates never had an uncontroversial , clear cut O win- many talk of 1993 but many many ppl had Flex winning that year.
Holy shit, talk about Captain f*cking delusional! The irony is that the trolls come out to dispute even Dorian's most dominant victories, while the very men that Dorian competed against, attest to Yates' dominance. Evidently, the trolls know better than the men that were on the very same stage. Flex himself would tell you that Dorian crushed everyone in 1993. Samir Bannout, a former Mr. Olympia proclaimed that Dorian was 1st, second and third, he was so dominant. But rather than believe the truth, let's all entertain conspiracy theories of phantom politics. lol
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they are not conspiracy theories if they are grounded in obvious clear cut fact and truth:
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hmm..perhaps the fact that all dorian's friends were judges would explain the bias in 1993 where they were going to give dorian a score in the muscularity round without even comparing him to the competition??
that explains the partial judging in that round right there.
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thats pretty fucking weak...............obvio usly in that photo dorian is exhaling for a second while the two on his flank are both keeping their midsections contracted............th ere are some real slimy tactics used by some of the posters here.
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Holy shit, talk about Captain f*cking delusional! The irony is that the trolls come out to dispute even Dorian's most dominant victories, while the very men that Dorian competed against, attest to Yates' dominance. Evidently, the trolls know better than the men that were on the very same stage. Flex himself would tell you that Dorian crushed everyone in 1993. Samir Bannout, a former Mr. Olympia proclaimed that Dorian was 1st, second and third, he was so dominant. But rather than believe the truth, let's all entertain conspiracy theories of phantom politics. lol
Flex Wheeler "said" that in a Weider publication.
the truth was told in a GOlds gym conversation with cormier, dillet, kalfani after the O- it was along the lines of Dorian was given the 93 over me cos Manion+Big Steve want their bumboy to keep winning it now- no way a guy like me can win it now.
this was told by cormier to jon davie.
Fools like Narcotic Dicky believe everything Mcgough and Flex magazine spew forth.
nothing delusional here.............just reality.
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Nasser can fit 4 testicles in his mouth
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hmm..perhaps the fact that all dorian's friends were judges would explain the bias in 1993 where they were going to give dorian a score in the muscularity round without even comparing him to the competition??
that explains the partial judging in that round right there.
No, it is testimony to the fact that Dorian was so far above everyone else that it was plain to see. Well, to those that aren't legally blind, unlike yourself.
- "Team Huckster, Beyond Retarded"
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Flex "said" that in a Weider publication.
the truth was told in a GOlds gym conversation with cormier, dillet, kalfani after the O- it was along the lines of Dorian was given the 93 over me cos Manion+Big Steve want their bumboy to keep winning it now- no way a guy like me can win it now.
this was told by cormier to jon davie.
Fools like Narcotic Dicky believe everything Mcgough and Flex spew forth.
nothing delusional here.............just reality.
I imagine the Gold's conspiracy conversation involved some Ninjas also? Flex never won because he was a lazy pussy, bottom line.
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Dorians penis was so far up Manion and Wienberger's anuses it ensured his 6 O titles
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Dorians penis was so far up Manion and Wienberger's anuses it ensured his 6 O titles
I'm not one for keeping track of where other men's penises frequent, so I'll just take your word for it, as you're obviously the expert.
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thats pretty fucking weak...............obvio usly in that photo dorian is exhaling for a second while the two on his flank are both keeping their midsections contracted............th ere are some real slimy tactics used by some of the posters here.
hahahaa
what a pathetic crock.
you do realize that pretty much every relaxed round shot of dorian standing next to his competitors has the same result: him getting owned.
its common as the sun rising.
are you doing to argue all these shots were taking at the precise second dorian was exhaling too? LOL
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hahahaa
what a pathetic crock.
you do realize that pretty much every relaxed round shot of dorian standing next to his competitors has the same result: him getting owned.
its common as the sun rising.
are you doing to argue all these shots were taking at the precise second dorian was exhaling too? LOL
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You win, Huckster, as we all know that an entire contest is won or lost on the basis of a solitary relaxed pose. Can't argue with that logic. Kudos to you sir.
-"Team Huckster, Beyond Retarded"
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No, it is testimony to the fact that Dorian was so far above everyone else that it was plain to see. Well, to those that aren't legally blind, unlike yourself.
- "Team Huckster, Beyond Retarded"
your not getting it. as usual.. :-\
it doesn't matter if we are comparing a prime time ronnie to Kamali at his worst, the point is that if you are prepared to score a competitor without comparing him to his competitors, you are being partial/biased by definition. thats not how proper, fair and impartial judging is conducted. period.
the eventual result has nothing to do with this.
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You win, Huckster, as we all know that an entire contest is won or lost on the basis of a solitary relaxed pose. Can't argue with that logic. Kudos to you sir.
-"Team Huckster, Beyond Retarded"
no, it isn't.
but when you factor in that pose, with the horrid double bi shot, the smooth lat spreads, the weak quads in the ab shot etc etc, and then realize that on paper yates was given perfect scores most of the time, you begin to see just how bad the judging truly was back then..
but I guess it takes some brains to do this. people with a superficial knowledge of the sport (eg. ND and yourself) miss this entirely.
you just look at the scorecard and say "oh, dorian is perfect, he dominates' without actually being critical of what was really up there on stage and how that was translated to the scores themselves.
thats what the nuthuggers will never understand..
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Not bad, but you don't get the vibe of the thread - I thought we could make it a bit different than the usual thing. Like you countering with a pic of Nasser having dinner with a nice chick vs Dorian serving drinks with a black eye or something like that ;D
ok dont be upset ;D
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;D;D
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If Dorian's buddies were the judges, and Nasser is at least 3x Olympia, then what about all the guys that placed ahead of Nasser that were not named Yates?
1997 San Jose Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1998 Grand Prix Finland, 3rd
1998 Grand Prix Germany, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
1999 Arnold Classic, 1st
1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th
Here is the contest results of Nasser after Yates retired. Besides 1 Arnold Classic he was smoked by plenty of other guys. So instead of Dorian vs nasser it should be "all the guys that beat him vs him." If his prime was from 97 - 99...
Here are his results in '97 excluding the Olympia meeting with Yates. it's not like Nasser isn't getting beat by others.
1997 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix England, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Finland, 4th
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Russia, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 2nd
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Actualy. He is No2 in the bbing history for me(No1 is Ronnie paco..of course)
fixed for fun ;D
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fixed for fun ;D
Do actually wear the used thongs you get from nasser? Do you display them somewhere? What does your family think of your dabblings into fetishes as weird as this?
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Do actually wear the used thongs you get from nasser? Do you display them somewhere? What does your family think of your dabblings into fetishes as weird as this?
shoebox under his bed.............remember, he has to hide who he is, because he would be ostracized and possibly excommunicated if his hardliner Muslim parents found out.................you see, if you are a muslim man, and you produce a homosexual son........it is believed that you only get to rape 35 prepubescent little girls when you die, instead of the 70 prepubescent little virgins that most pedophiles, er, i mean muslims believe "allah" will grant them upon theri death.
;) ;) ;)
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no, it isn't.
but when you factor in that pose, with the horrid double bi shot, the smooth lat spreads, the weak quads in the ab shot etc etc, and then realize that on paper yates was given perfect scores most of the time, you begin to see just how bad the judging truly was back then..
but I guess it takes some brains to do this. people with a superficial knowledge of the sport (eg. ND and yourself) miss this entirely.
you just look at the scorecard and say "oh, dorian is perfect, he dominates' without actually being critical of what was really up there on stage and how that was translated to the scores themselves.
thats what the nuthuggers will never understand..
The bottom line was and still is, that Yates destroyed all of your heroes and has 6 Sandows to show for it. You've proven yourself to be the biggest pussy on this entire forum. The moment a thread is created that mentions Dorian's name, you start fapping at the prospect of trolling. You don't have the will power to keep your troll ass out of a Yate's thread. You are weak and Dorian owns your mind.
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shoebox under his bed.............remember, he has to hide who he is, because he would be ostracized and possibly excommunicated if his hardliner Muslim parents found out.................you see, if you are a muslim man, and you produce a homosexual son........it is believed that you only get to rape 35 prepubescent little girls when you die, instead of the 70 prepubescent little virgins that most pedophiles, er, i mean muslims believe "allah" will grant them upon theri death.
;) ;) ;)
What beer are you on? I'm on 7...
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If Dorian's buddies were the judges, and Nasser is at least 3x Olympia, then what about all the guys that placed ahead of Nasser that were not named Yates?
1997 San Jose Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1998 Grand Prix Finland, 3rd
1998 Grand Prix Germany, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
1999 Arnold Classic, 1st
1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th
Here is the contest results of Nasser after Yates retired. Besides 1 Arnold Classic he was smoked by plenty of other guys. So instead of Dorian vs nasser it should be "all the guys that beat him vs him." If his prime was from 97 - 99...
Here are his results in '97 excluding the Olympia meeting with Yates. it's not like Nasser isn't getting beat by others.
1997 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix England, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Finland, 4th
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Russia, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 2nd
I pointed this out earlier as well. As usual their attention is on attacking dorian Yates not on common sense. What happened after yates retired? Did Weinberger start favoring Ronnie after that? ::). Lets not forget the infamous racism excuse - even back in germany and europe where nasser failed to win more than once even in his best years. Excuses galore :D
The fact is that nasser was a lazy competitor with no staying power ( in more ways than one). All the women nasser preys on can attest to that ;D Nasser has no one to blame but himself. He now surrounds himself with a handful of lackeys to discredit the accomplishments of others. Disgraceful excuse for a human being. :-\
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Dorians penis was so far up Manion and Wienberger's anuses it ensured his 6 O titles
Are you saying that nassers was too small to do the same hence his losses? ;D
Nasser always comes up short in more ways than one
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Nasser can fit 4 testicles in his mouth
Is this true the_swami , do you really have a big mouth? :o
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hahahaa
what a pathetic crock.
you do realize that pretty much every relaxed round shot of dorian standing next to his competitors has the same result: him getting owned.
its common as the sun rising.
are you doing to argue all these shots were taking at the precise second dorian was exhaling too? LOL
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As usual you're deathly afraid to post a shot of Dorian fully flexed for a very good reason ;) it's so easy to own you it lacks effort
p.s. dummy the bottom one is from 1997 ;)
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The bottom line was and still is, that Yates destroyed all of your heroes and has 6 Sandows to show for it. You've proven yourself to be the biggest pussy on this entire forum. The moment a thread is created that mentions Dorian's name, you start fapping at the prospect of trolling. You don't have the will power to keep your troll ass out of a Yate's thread. You are weak and Dorian owns your mind.
heheheheh best post ;D
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your not getting it. as usual.. :-\
it doesn't matter if we are comparing a prime time ronnie to Kamali at his worst, the point is that if you are prepared to score a competitor without comparing him to his competitors, you are being partial/biased by definition. thats not how proper, fair and impartial judging is conducted. period.
the eventual result has nothing to do with this.
you don't have the first fucking clue on how the judging WAS SCORED or IS SCORE I explained how it's judged you thought it was who had the best taper and most ' lumpiness ' ( your words ) in their backs rolflmao
he was compared against is competition in the SYMMETRY round and after destroying them ALL in that round it was redundant to compare him with them in the muscularity rounds and he was compared as well in the posing rounds , you're just pissed that Ronnie was never good enough to bring forth that reaction , and again idiot would it have changed the outcome? Oh wait according to your moronic midn it would because YOU have claimed ( along with the other monumental moron the_swami ) Dorian should have lost in 1993 , good company you're keeping Hulkster another biased ignorant troll like you who is still bitching and moaning because his hero wasn't good enough to beat Dorian ;)
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you don't have the first fucking clue on how the judging WAS SCORED or IS SCORE I explained how it's judged you thought it was who had the best taper and most ' lumpiness ' ( your words ) in their backs rolflmao
he was compared against is competition in the SYMMETRY round and after destroying them ALL in that round it was redundant to compare him with them in the muscularity rounds and he was compared as well in the posing rounds , you're just pissed that Ronnie was never good enough to bring forth that reaction , and again idiot would it have changed the outcome? Oh wait according to your moronic midn it would because YOU have claimed ( along with the other monumental moron the_swami ) Dorian should have lost in 1993 , good company you're keeping Hulkster another biased ignorant troll like you who is still bitching and moaning because his hero wasn't good enough to beat Dorian ;)
Swami and bigbobs are friends off getbig. Swami will usually initiate the questions for bobs to answer thereby bumping up the nasser threads...along with the usual yates bashing.
The idea behind their strategy is to pit you and the hulkster against each other and tag along when both hulkster and you showpostdown. That way they can get in some cheap shots.
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Swami and bigbobs are friends off getbig. Swami will usually initiate the questions for bobs to answer thereby bumping up the nasser threads...along with the usual yates bashing.
The idea behind their strategy is to pit you and the hulkster against each other and tag along when both hulkster and you showpostdown. That way they can get in some cheap shots.
wow the mthr fukr gimmick has exposed our strategy guys ;D..
your tyr account has been exposed by me long ago as being dreadlord's gimmick so you can return with your actual DL account with no problem..
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As usual you're deathly afraid to post a shot of Dorian fully flexed for a very good reason ;) it's so easy to own you it lacks effort
p.s. dummy the bottom one is from 1997 ;)
everyone take note that the point went right over ND's flowery head ::) - as he posts 4 shots of dorian standing alone, not compared to his fellow competitors in the pose..or even to shots of other guys like nasser and ronnie..
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sigh. this is the lack of intelligence we are dealing with.. :-\
observe yet again: :-\
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do ya think ND will get it this time?
nah. I doubt it. ::)
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97 is arguable. The rest of his wins were clear and convincing. Jesus, to claim he didn't deserve 95 shows just how biased you guys have become, he absolutely dominated that year.
how many times do i have to tell it? i was at the 95 O and as soon as they walked on stage for pre judging it was clearly a show for 2nd thru the rest.
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everyone take note that the point went right over ND's flowery head ::) - as he posts 4 shots of dorian standing alone, not compared to his fellow competitors in the pose..or even to shots of other guys like nasser and ronnie..
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sigh. this is the lack of intelligence we are dealing with.. :-\
observe yet again: :-\
Moron I posted multiple pics of him actually FLEXED something he's not in the pics you posted for a very good reason , you're scared and like someone called you a big pussy ;)
and on the topic of intelligence I never called you smart not even once , you did to me ;D ;)
owned again
you're scared of Dorian almost as scared as Ronnie was of him
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do ya think ND will get it this time?
nah. I doubt it. ::)
Oh we all get it , you're deathly afraid of Dorian fully flexed which is exactly why you were scared to post them , you had access to the same pics as me , typical Hulkster desperation move post carefully selected pics of Yates semi-relaxed and say ' see he sucked '
the whole board knows your m.o. and your desperation keep showing how pathetic you are we all get it anyway
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Oh we all get it , you're deathly afraid of Dorian fully flexed which is exactly why you were scared to post them , you had access to the same pics as me , typical Hulkster desperation move post carefully selected pics of Yates semi-relaxed and say ' see he sucked '
the whole board knows your m.o. and your desperation keep showing how pathetic you are we all get it anyway
All these pics posted of Dorian totally relaxed mean nothing. Afterall, he spent almost the whole show standing on the side watching everyone else get compared for 2nd!
These are two of the best front relaxed shots I have seen of any bodybuilder in any contest.
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All these pics posted of Dorian totally relaxed mean nothing. Afterall, he spent almost the whole show standing on the side watching everyone else get compared for 2nd!
These are two of the best front relaxed shots I have seen of any bodybuilder in any contest.
Hulkster and BigBobs are scare of those pics and great point about Yates hanging out on the sides ;D while once again all the others fought it out for second
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Credit where it's due, Dorian looks great there...
The testicle-swallowing Nasser was inferior and his head was too big
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=293385.0;attach=333780;image)
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according to ND, it appears as though the only shots where dorian was 'fully flexing' is where he is standing by himself ::).
and every time he stands next to someone else, they say he isn't fully flexing ::).
thats the pathetic excuse to explain why he gets owned in the shot standing next to ray, nasser et al..
probably the biggest load of pathetic bullshit I have ever read.
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according to ND, it appears as though the only shots where dorian was 'fully flexing' is where he is standing by himself ::).
and every time he stands next to someone else, they say he isn't fully flexing ::).
thats the pathetic excuse to explain why he gets owned in the shot standing next to ray, nasser et al..
probably the biggest load of pathetic bullshit I have ever read.
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yeah because you can't see a clear difference huh? ::)
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Flexed and Relaxed notice a difference dummy? same contest too ;)
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I will keep embarrassing you Hulkster I will continue to highlight just how stupid and pathetic you are ;)
same contest , shall I continue?
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Great shots ND. I love how Hulkster & the Nasser crew rely on nothing but pics. Seriously, watch any of the videos posted of Dorian - sure at times when he is totally relaxed he looks off (just like any bodybuilder, even the great Ronnie) but when he flexes he transforms into the best combo of size and conditioning bodybuilding has ever seen. Hence the 6 Mr.O titles during the most competitive era (oh yeah, it was politics ::))
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haha everyone look at the pics that ND posted. they are no different.
twig arms, giant waist, detailess quads etc.
standing next to no one so you always look better.
put him next to the competition and, well, you showed it all with your pic of shawn, dorian and labrada..shawn is killing dorian there.
same old story.
nice try ND, one of your classic backfires right there.
dorian's front relaxed pose was almost as bad as his most muscular. almost.
fact is, dorian was, as many have put it, 'nothing special from the front' :P
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haha everyone look at the pics that ND posted. they are no different.
twig arms, giant waist, detailess quads etc.
standing next to no one so you always look better.
put him next to the competition and, well, you showed it all with your pic of shawn, dorian and labrada..shawn is killing dorian there.
same old story.
nice try ND, one of your classic backfires right there.
dorian's front relaxed pose was almost as bad as his most muscular. almost.
fact is, dorian was, as many have put it, 'nothing special from the front' :P
meltdown
what else can you say in the face of yet another ass kicking? no different? yet you refused to post the ones I did ;)
Hulkster you're a joke and everyone knows it , run along with your stupidity
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Great shots ND. I love how Hulkster & the Nasser crew rely on nothing but pics. Seriously, watch any of the videos posted of Dorian - sure at times when he is totally relaxed he looks off (just like any bodybuilder, even the great Ronnie) but when he flexes he transforms into the best combo of size and conditioning bodybuilding has ever seen. Hence the 6 Mr.O titles during the most competitive era (oh yeah, it was politics ::))
They think they accomplish something by posting a couple of pics semi-relaxed lol pics means dick compared to video and video means nothing compared to actually being there
There is a very good reason Dorian dominated everyone , he is complete and looks outstanding from ALL angles
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They think they accomplish something by posting a couple of pics semi-relaxed lol pics means dick compared to video and video means nothing compared to actually being there
There is a very good reason Dorian dominated everyone , he is complete and looks outstanding from ALL angles
yes, many of these people dont realize what a bodybuilding competition is.................its not a "best bodypart" competition, nor is it "i look the best in this pose" contest..............its judged on completeness
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yes, many of these people dont realize what a bodybuilding competition is.................its not a "best bodypart" competition, nor is it "i look the best in this pose" contest..............its judged on completeness
exactly it's conditioning , size , balance , posing , presentation , completeness , all rolled up in every single pose from every single angle
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If Dorian's buddies were the judges, and Nasser is at least 3x Olympia, then what about all the guys that placed ahead of Nasser that were not named Yates?
1997 San Jose Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1998 Grand Prix Finland, 3rd
1998 Grand Prix Germany, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
1999 Arnold Classic, 1st
1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th
Here is the contest results of Nasser after Yates retired. Besides 1 Arnold Classic he was smoked by plenty of other guys. So instead of Dorian vs nasser it should be "all the guys that beat him vs him." If his prime was from 97 - 99...
Here are his results in '97 excluding the Olympia meeting with Yates. it's not like Nasser isn't getting beat by others.
1997 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix England, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Finland, 4th
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Russia, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 2nd
I'm not surprised to see that the Arab nation cannot provide one single arguement/explanation for my post last night. They are praying to Allah for some insight but all Allah can provide are fat, hairy Arab virgins, lol.
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I'm not surprised to see that the Arab nation cannot provide one single arguement/explanation for my post last night. They are praying to Allah for some insight but all Allah can provide are fat, hairy Arab virgins, lol.
Ah it's easy to stump those guys , you beat them over the head with logic
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exactly it's conditioning , size , balance , posing , presentation , completeness , all rolled up in every single pose from every single angle
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exactly it's conditioning , size , balance , posing , presentation , completeness , all rolled up in every single pose from every single angle
and yet ronnie at his best is even better:
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and yet ronnie at his best is even better:
Ronnie is great no doubt but hardly unbeatable. Gunter smoked him in his prime. Overall though Ronnie set a new standard. i think he was great until about 2002, then he started slipping.
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Ronnie is great no doubt but hardly unbeatable. Gunter smoked him in his prime. Overall though Ronnie set a new standard. i think he was great until about 2002, then he started slipping.
LOL the 2002 show of strength was NOT ronnie's prime.. 8)
and gunter didnt smoke him.
it was an IFBB ploy to stir up interest and sell tickets for the Olympia, even bodybuilding.com says this, and it worked quite well.
unfortunately for ronnie, of course..
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and yet ronnie at his best is even better:
yawn , sure he is.
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yawn , sure he is.
the pics and vids show this quite clearly.
you can't change real life.
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the pics and vids show this quite clearly.
you can't change real life.
yup like pics and vids so Dorian lost in 1993 and Ronnie has more detailed calves and Dorian was the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , the pics and vids show what you want and ' real life ' isn't anywhere neat what you see ;)
if what you typed were true you wouldn't be trying so damn hard to convince everyone else it's true ;)
keep looking stupid I'll keep pointing it out ;D
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LOL the 2002 show of strength was NOT ronnie's prime.. 8)
and gunter didnt did smoke him.
it was an IFBB ploy to stir up interest and sell tickets for the Olympia, even bodybuilding.com says this, and it worked quite well.
unfortunately for ronnie, of course..
You've got a conspiracy theory and excuse for everything. Ronnie got beat by second tier bodybuilder, deal with it.
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LOL the 2002 show of strength was NOT ronnie's prime.. 8)
and gunter didnt smoke him.
it was an IFBB ploy to stir up interest and sell tickets for the Olympia, even bodybuilding.com says this, and it worked quite well.
unfortunately for ronnie, of course..
when confronted with REAL LIFE what does Hulkster do? post pics that show exactly why Ronnie got his ass handed to him and cry politics , predictable , ignorant and stupid .
yawn
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You've got a conspiracy theory and excuse for everything. Ronnie got beat by second tier bodybuilder, deal with it.
Ronnie could never dominate like Dorian did , Gunther and Jay beat him soundly
Hulkster is an excuse it's all he has left
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exactly it's conditioning , size , balance , posing , presentation , completeness , all rolled up in every single pose from every single angle
aren't balance and completeness the same thing
and posing and presentation the same thing?
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aren't balance and completeness the same thing
and posing and presentation the same thing?
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No balance isn't the same as being complete one can have a balanced physique and still not be complete Nasser missing a back and proportionate forearms , same with Dillett same back issues both have pretty balanced physiques but incomplete ,
posing and presentation are sorta the same but one can go out there and hit shots and not put to much emphasis on stage presentation , presentation is more how you portray your self with confidence and have a winning attitude , they used to say Dorian walked around the stage like he owned it and he did , Dorian wasn't a great poser per'sa he was a very good technical poser he always hit the mandatory poses correctly and his presentation reflected his attitude that he was the best and knew it
Shawn Ray also had very great posing skills and his presentation was always top notch , in contrast to someone like Paul Dillett who couldn't hold a pose , shaked uncontrollably and looked like he wanted off that stage a.s.a.p , Flex had great presentation as well
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LOL the 2002 show of strength was NOT ronnie's prime.. 8)
and gunter didnt smoke him.
it was an IFBB ploy to stir up interest and sell tickets for the Olympia, even bodybuilding.com says this, and it worked quite well.
unfortunately for ronnie, of course..
Gunter, at least 4x Mr. Olympia. Everytime someone losses it's a conspiracy around here. Ronnie was smooth and off at prejudging. He tightened up towards the end but not enough. Who cares about Olympia tickets sales. That's not where the money is. The real money is made in the supplement market. If they wanted to market a guy to promote and generate cash they would have made Gunter 10x Mr. Olympia. Ronnie, Dorian, Lee Haney for all the Olympia's they won didn't generate much interest.
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the pics and vids show this quite clearly.
you can't change real life.
Real life aint pics and vids you f*cking tool .lol Funny, I don't see Ronnie's name in the title of the thread, it's Dorian vs Nasser. Gee, Wonder how Ronnie came into the picture? ::)
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ronnie came into the picture because your bitch ND had to get in his troll comment as always:
Time will crown the king
Re: Dorian vs Nasser
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Yet neither could beat Dorian ever
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ND always brings Ronnie into any dorian thread.
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ronnie came into the picture because your bitch ND had to get in his troll comment as always:
Time will crown the king
Re: Dorian vs Nasser
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Yet neither could beat Dorian ever
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ND always brings Ronnie into any dorian thread.
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I smell bullshit, and you haven't got the boots for it, Huckster.
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Real life aint pics and vids you f*cking tool
your only saying that because its clear that a 99 ronnie would crush dorian
if the vids showed it the other way around, you'd be rallying that pics and vids are real evidence (which they are)
you only discredit them because they work against your agenda and show dorian not coming close..
how sad.
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All these pics posted of Dorian totally relaxed mean nothing. Afterall, he spent almost the whole show standing on the side watching everyone else get compared for 2nd!
These are two of the best front relaxed shots I have seen of any bodybuilder in any contest.
How are those two shots of his front relaxed pose any better than the ones where he's not standing alone? The only difference is here he's holding his arms further apart. His front relaxed pose was one of the worst of the top 5/6 competitors during his era, and well behind Nasser's. He even said himself during his commentary of the 97 Olympia that Nasser had him in thise pose.
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your only saying that because its clear that a 99 ronnie would crush dorian
if the vids showed it the other way around, you'd be rallying that pics and vids are real evidence (which they are)
you only discredit them because they work against your agenda and show dorian not coming close..
how sad.
Real life, is your ebony hero never coming close to Yates in competition. Real life, is Ronnie stating himself that if Dorian had kept on competing that he would have kept on winning. Real life, is Gunter, a second tier pro who needed special invites to the Olympia, kicking Ronnie's ass at the GNC. Real life, is Jay Cutler dethroning Ronnie and taking his title away. Unlike Dorian, who retired as a champ. But rather than confront the realities of real life, you'd rather lose yourself in a false and delusional world of your own design, where sharpened pics are equated with reality and champions don't need calves. At the mere mention of Dorian's name, you reach for your zipper, cause you just can't help yourself. Trolling is all you know, it is what you are.
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How are those two shots of his front relaxed pose any better than the ones where he's not standing alone? The only difference is here he's holding his arms further apart. His front relaxed pose was one of the worst of the top 5/6 competitors during his era, and well behind Nasser's. He even said himself during his commentary of the 97 Olympia that Nasser had him in thise pose.
these guys need any angle/excuse they can get..
fact is, even the competitors that placed OUT OF THE TOP 10 had a better relaxed front shot than dorian.
why?
because he had a powerlifter type physique, not a classic bodybuilder type..unlike Ronald Dean Coleman
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I'm not surprised to see that the Arab nation cannot provide one single arguement/explanation for my post last night. They are praying to Allah for some insight but all Allah can provide are fat, hairy Arab virgins, lol.
It's called having a life outside of getbig.com and therefore not taking the time to respond to each and every silly post. But since you quoted yourself again I'll be nice and take the time to respond to you ;)
Nasser's prime was 95 to mid-99. During that time he got top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows, which is a pretty consistent record:
1995 Houston Pro Show First pro-show win. 1st
1995 NOC (NYC) 1st
1995 Mr. Olympia (Atlanta) 3rd
1995 Spain Pro Show 3rd
1995 Germany Pro Show 3rd
1995 England Pro Show 4th
1995 Russia Pro Show 3rd
1995 France Pro Show 3rd
1995 Ukraine Pro Show 2nd
1996 Mr. Olympia (Chicago) 3rd
1996 Spain Pro Show 3rd
1996 German Pro Show 2nd
1996 England Pro Show 2nd
1996 Czech Pro Show 1st
1996 Swiss Pro Show 1st
1996 Russia Pro Show 1st
1997 Arnold Classic (Columbus, Ohio) 2nd
1997 San Jose Pro Show 2nd
1997 Mr. Olympia (Long Beach) 2nd
1997 Hungary Pro Show 2nd
1997 Spain Pro Show 2nd
1997 Germany Pro Show 2nd
1997 England Pro Show 3rd
1997 Czech Pro Show 3rd
1997 Finland Pro Show 4th
1997 Russia Pro Show 3rd
1998 Arnold Classic (Columbus, Ohio) 2nd
1998 Mr. Olympia (NYC) 3rd
1998 Germany Pro Show 3rd
1998 Finland Pro Show 3rd
1999 Arnold Classic (Columbus, Ohio) 1st
Many of those 2nd and 3rd placings would have been 1st and 2nd if he was on more favourable terms with (by sucking up to) key IFBB officials. Anyone who knows Nasser personally knows he speaks his mind and calls it like he sees it, and doing this a few times behind the scenes over his career put him on the bad side of Manion and others with influence. Details will be in his upcoming book.
There are several reasons why his placings declined in the later years of his career, one of the major factors was the divorce with his wife which took a huge emotional toll at the time and also left him without the prevoius support he had in preparing his meals and helping in general with his contest prep. Regardless, 29 top 3 placings in 31 consecutive shows over 5 of the most competitive years in bb history is a very major achievement regardless of what haters like to say.
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1999 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic
March 6 at Columbus, Ohio at Veterans Memorial Auditorium
1 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia 5 10 6 5 26
1998 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic
March 7 at Columbus, Ohio at Veterans Memorial Auditorium
1 Flex Wheeler USA $100,000
2 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia $45,000
1998 Mr. Olympia Results
October 10, 1998 at New York, New York
1 Ronnie Coleman USA 17 5 5 5 32
2 Flex Wheeler USA 5 10 10 10 35
3 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia 11 16 17 16 60
1998 Grand Prix Germany Results
October 17, 1998 at Duisburg
1 Ronnie Coleman USA
2 Kevin Levrone USA
3 Nassar El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1997 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic
March 1 at Columbus, Ohio
1 Flex Wheeler USA
2 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1997 Mr. Olympia Results
September 20, 1997 at Long Beach, California
1 Dorian Yates England
2 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1997 Grand Prix Germany Results
September 27, 1997 at Offenbach
1 Kevin Levrone USA
2 Nassar El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1997 Grand Prix Spain Results
September 26, 1997 at Madrid
1 Kevin Levrone USA
2 Nassar El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1997 Grand Prix England Standings
September 28, 1997 at Nottingham
1 Kevin Levrone USA
2 Chris Cormier USA
3 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1997 Grand Prix Finland Results
October 4, 1997 at Helsinki, Finland
1 Kevin Levrone USA
2 Chris Cormier USA
3 Ronnie Coleman USA
4 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1997 Grand Prix Russia Standings
October 5, 1997 at Moscow
1 Ronnie Coleman USA
2 Kevin Levrone USA
3 Nassar El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1996 Mr. Olympia Results
September 21, 1996 at Chicago, Illinois
1 Dorian Yates England
2 Shawn Ray USA
3 Kevin Levrone USA
4 Flex Wheeler USA
5 Paul Dillett Canada
6 Ronnie Coleman USA
7 Chris Cormier USA
8 Jean Pierre Fux Switzerland
9 Charles Clairmonte Barbados
10 Mike Francois USA
11 Aaron Baker USA
12 Roland Cziurlok Germany
13 Mike Matarazzo USA
Disq Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1996 Grand Prix Spain Standings
September 27, 1996 at Madrid
1 Dorian Yates England
2 Paul Dillett Canada
3 Nassar El Sonbaty Yogoslavia
1996 Grand Prix Germany Standings
September 28, 1996 at Darmstadt 1 Dorian Yates England
2 Nassar El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1996 Grand Prix England Standings
September 29, 1996 at Nottingham 1 Dorian Yates England
2 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic Standings
October 3, 1996 at Prague
1 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland Standings
October 4, 1996 at Zurich
1 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1996 Grand Prix Russia Standings
October 6, 1996 at St. Petersburg
1 Nassar El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1995 Houston Pro Invitational - Contest ResultsApril 29th, 1995; Houston, USA. Place Athlete
1st Nasser El Sonbaty
1995 Night of Champions XVII Results
1 Nasser El Sonbaty
1995 Mr. Olympia Standings
September 10, 1995 at Atlanta, Georgia
1 Dorian Yates England
2 Kevin Levrone USA
3 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
September 17th, 1995 at Nottingham Place Athlete
1st Vince Taylor
2nd Kevin Levrone
3rd Charles Clairmonte
4th Nasser El Sonbaty
1995 Grand Prix France - Contest Results
September 23rd, 1995; Paris, France Place Athlete Country
1st Vince Taylor USA
2nd Charles Clairmonte Barbados
3rd Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia
1995 Grand Prix Germany - Contest Results
September 16th, 1995; Duisburg Place Athlete
1st Kevin Levrone
2nd Vince Taylor
3rd Nassar El Sonbaty
Even in his prime (1995 - mid 1999) Nasser was defeated countless times by Levrone (9), Dillet, Wheeler (4), Coleman (4), Cormier (2), Taylor (3), Clairmonte (2), Ray (1). Note none of these guys have the last name Yates. These defeats occured during Nasser's peak. At what you claim is his best.
if Dorian Yates doesn't exist, Nasser still only wins 1 Olympia, 1997. In 1996, Ray beats him but Nasser has the unfair advantage of taking illegal diuretics much closer to the show then anyone else. He's DQ'd and places last. In 1995, Levrone beats him. In 1999, it was between Ronnie and Flex. Nasser was a distant 3rd.
If he is at least 3x Mr. Olympia (you feel 4x+), then in these years he should be dominating. He's the best in the world right? Clearly he isn't. Now of course you'll say it's politics. Why do the guys who lose always claim politics? Would Nasser, a graduate of university in several disciplines, and fluent in multiple languages better represent bodybuilding then Yates, a skinhead guy who did time in his youth, and a cronic pothead (even now).
If anything, Yates made Nasser. Bodybuilding is all about comparisons and Nasser compared extremely well against Yates who was the multiple Mr. O. In other contests which Yates didn't enter, Nasser's blocky type mass unless absolutely ripped would place him consistently behind Levrone, Wheeler, and Coleman (Coleman didn't peak until after Nasser prime). The judges didn't know whether to go with the mass or the class (Ronnie combined both for a while).
Look at Nasser's record against Levrone for example. He did best against levrone at the Olympia but mostly lost to him at other venues. After Yates left, Nasser himself said he felt his physique would not be in vogue as the judging trend would go with the Wheeler, Levrone, and Coleman type of less blocky, more shapely symmetry. He was right. Coleman became the man, and Nasser compares badly against him. He looks like a block next to Ronnie before Ronnie got super huge and pregnant.
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How are those two shots of his front relaxed pose any better than the ones where he's not standing alone? The only difference is here he's holding his arms further apart. His front relaxed pose was one of the worst of the top 5/6 competitors during his era, and well behind Nasser's. He even said himself during his commentary of the 97 Olympia that Nasser had him in thise pose.
dorian boy love dorian more than he loves himself ;)
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Even in his prime (1995 - mid 1999) Nasser was defeated countless times by Levrone (9), Dillet, Wheeler (4), Coleman (4), Cormier (2), Taylor (3), Clairmonte (2), Ray (1). Note none of these guys have the last name Yates. These defeats occured during Nasser's peak. At what you claim is his best.
From 95 to 99 Nasser beat all of those guys much more often than they beat him. Yes, when entering 30+ shows over those years, there will be a few instances where some of them may place higher in specific shows, but more often than not Nasser beat those guys. Like I said, top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows during that period. Each of the other men you listed had placings below 4th during that period, except for Nasser. The only man who was undefeated during that period was Dorian, and like the pictures, videos and his friendships show, this was largely due to politics and bias. Other than Shawn Ray, Nasser is the only man out of the names you listed who was outspoken, which is not good for one's contest placings either. Having a "non-white" name also didn't help.
And LOL @ the fact that you took the time to go through each of those contests' placings and noted each name that was ahead of Nasser and the # of times during those years. Obsessed much?
if Dorian Yates doesn't exist, Nasser still only wins 1 Olympia, 1997. In 1996, Ray beats him but Nasser has the unfair advantage of taking illegal diuretics much closer to the show then anyone else. He's DQ'd and places last. In 1995, Levrone beats him. In 1999, it was between Ronnie and Flex. Nasser was a distant 3rd.
Practically every competitor took diuretics in 96. There were rumours that there would be a test but no test was actually done. Ask anyone who competed at the 96 O if you want confirmation of this. Nasser was DQ'd because he told Mike Matarazzo that he took diuretics (in passing) who ratted him out.
Don't be so naive to think that IFBB is such a credible organization with fair judging and practices. A lot happens behind the scenes. Nasser's book will shed light on much of this.
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And LOL @ the fact that you took the time to go through each of those contests' placings and noted each name that was ahead of Nasser and the # of times during those years. Obsessed much?
It's called cut and paste and took 5 minutes. Obsessed?? lol. Funny Bob. You'd have Nasser's kids if you could. You've dodged the point about why the IFBB would want someone like Dorian to represent them over Nasser. Surely the Weider brothers being Jewish would not want a Skinhead, youth offender with (maybe) a highschool education to represent them. Why not choose someone else?
Nasser beat Levrone more then 9 times, I doubt it. Kevin's career and record beats Nasser's convincingly.
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From 95 to 99 Nasser beat all of those guys much more often than they beat him. Yes, when entering 30+ shows over those years, there will be a few instances where some of them may place higher in specific shows, but more often than not Nasser beat those guys. Like I said, top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows during that period. Each of the other men you listed had placings below 4th during that period, except for Nasser. The only man who was undefeated during that period was Dorian, and like the pictures, videos and his friendships show, this was largely due to politics and bias. Other than Shawn Ray, Nasser is the only man out of the names you listed who was outspoken, which is not good for one's contest placings either. Having a "non-white" name also didn't help.
And LOL @ the fact that you took the time to go through each of those contests' placings and noted each name that was ahead of Nasser and the # of times during those years. Obsessed much?
Practically every competitor took diuretics in 96. There were rumours that there would be a test but no test was actually done. Ask anyone who competed at the 96 O if you want confirmation of this. Nasser was DQ'd because he told Mike Matarazzo that he took diuretics (in passing) who ratted him out.
Don't be so naive to think that IFBB is such a credible organization with fair judging and practices. A lot happens behind the scenes. Nasser's book will shed light on much of this.
please, please...........and one more PLEASE...........can you Please die of your AIDS tonight. and never post your obsessive homosexuality on here ever again.................do you understand how much everyone laughs at you :-\ :-\
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From 95 to 99 Nasser beat all of those guys much more often than they beat him. Yes, when entering 30+ shows over those years, there will be a few instances where some of them may place higher in specific shows, but more often than not Nasser beat those guys. Like I said, top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows during that period. Each of the other men you listed had placings below 4th during that period, except for Nasser. The only man who was undefeated during that period was Dorian, and like the pictures, videos and his friendships show, this was largely due to politics and bias. Other than Shawn Ray, Nasser is the only man out of the names you listed who was outspoken, which is not good for one's contest placings either. Having a "non-white" name also didn't help.
And LOL @ the fact that you took the time to go through each of those contests' placings and noted each name that was ahead of Nasser and the # of times during those years. Obsessed much?
Practically every competitor took diuretics in 96. There were rumours that there would be a test but no test was actually done. Ask anyone who competed at the 96 O if you want confirmation of this. Nasser was DQ'd because he told Mike Matarazzo that he took diuretics (in passing) who ratted him out.
Don't be so naive to think that IFBB is such a credible organization with fair judging and practices. A lot happens behind the scenes. Nasser's book will shed light on much of this.
So what about those instances when nasser did win. NOC and the Arnold. Did he manage to somehow pacify the so called "racism" that the judges had for him? Did he manage to temporarily swing politics in his favor for that day? Surely the same judges were present when he competed in those competitions the second time and won second place a year later. He also competed outside the US on numerous occasions. Surely if he was at his best during 95-98 he would have won more often. 6 wins throughout his whole career for such a formidable competitor is pathetic.
Excuses are aplenty when you lose. Its always politics/judges/racism/divorce and god knows what else. Its always easy to blame everyone except yourself. If the IFBB is such a horrible place to compete in why did nasser continue to stay? He could have retired sooner than 2005. He retired only when his drug use began to have serious repercussions on his body and he was hospitalized quite a few times. The fact that he was outspoken like shawn ray is a joke. According to your previous posts nasser stayed quiet to avoid any controversy. Shawn continued to speak his mind at the risk of lower placings while nasser opted to stay quiet in fear until his retirement. Samir bannout has a non white name too? I wonder how he managed to win an Olympia over "white" competitors.
I think you're just too biased and obesssed with nasser to see reality. Typical blind fanboy claiming every excuse in the book as to why his hero didn't win. :-\
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ronnie came into the picture because your bitch ND had to get in his troll comment as always:
Time will crown the king
Re: Dorian vs Nasser
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Yet neither could beat Dorian ever
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ND always brings Ronnie into any dorian thread.
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hahahah everyone knows you're the biggest troll ON here ALL you know is Yates and me it's 99% of your posts on GetBig , where are YOU in yet another Dorian Yates thread , case closed and p.s. BigBobs brought up Ronnie I just pointed out the FACT neither him or Nasser could ever beat Yates ;)
continue with your meltdown
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these guys need any angle/excuse they can get..
fact is, even the competitors that placed OUT OF THE TOP 10 had a better relaxed front shot than dorian.
why?
because he had a powerlifter type physique, not a classic bodybuilder type..unlike Ronald Dean Coleman
lmfao a classic bodybuilder type physique is Lee Labrada , Bob Paris , Steve Reeves , etc NOT Ronnie Coleman you're so ignorant to this day on what bodybuilding is . you think a narrow waist is a classic physique you're still lost I remember you desperately try to convince everyone Ronnie was aesthetic too lmao yet he's missing two out of three aesthetic muscles ( calves , abdominals and delts )
as usual you know nothing , classic type physique right here heheheheheh
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hahahah everyone knows you're the biggest troll ON here ALL you know is Yates and me it's 99% of your posts on GetBig , where are YOU in yet another Dorian Yates thread , case closed and p.s. BigBobs brought up Ronnie I just pointed out the FACT neither him or Nasser could ever beat Yates ;)
continue with your meltdown
why are you personally insulting him??.. according to you doing that means you cant beat him with logic ;D
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Obsessed much?
Practically every competitor took diuretics in 96. There were rumours that there would be a test but no test was actually done. Ask anyone who competed at the 96 O if you want confirmation of this. Nasser was DQ'd because he told Mike Matarazzo that he took diuretics (in passing) who ratted him out.
Don't be so naive to think that IFBB is such a credible organization with fair judging and practices. A lot happens behind the scenes. Nasser's book will shed light on much of this.
Obsessed much?
irony alert
Practically every competitor took diuretics in 96. There were rumours that there would be a test but no test was actually done. Ask anyone who competed at the 96 O if you want confirmation of this. Nasser was DQ'd because he told Mike Matarazzo that he took diuretics (in passing) who ratted him out.
excuses , excuses , same old excuses with you all bulls shit Nasser told you , the test ratted him and he failed and Yates never needed diuretics they were for guys who didn't watch their diets and cardio all year and needed to get with the program at the last minute
and the IFBB sucks and it's all politics then every single contest Nasser won was FIXED too , you can't have it bought ways , continue with your excuses you're in good company with Hulkster and Nasser
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You've dodged the point about why the IFBB would want someone like Dorian to represent them over Nasser. Surely the Weider brothers being Jewish would not want a Skinhead, youth offender with (maybe) a highschool education to represent them. Why not choose someone else?
This has been addressed many times by myself and Swami, including my posts within the last few days.
Nasser beat Levrone more then 9 times, I doubt it. Kevin's career and record beats Nasser's convincingly.
Actually he beat him much more than 9 times. If you spent the same time it took you to tally up the guys who beat Nasser in some few shows from 95 to 99 to do the same and see how many times Nasser beat Levrone during that time period you'll be surprised. Here's a hint, he beat Levrone in 3 consecutive Olympias 96, 97, and 98, many Euro shows and Arnold Classics.
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So what about those instances when nasser did win. NOC and the Arnold. Did he manage to somehow pacify the so called "racism" that the judges had for him? Did he manage to temporarily swing politics in his favor for that day? Surely the same judges were present when he competed in those competitions the second time and won second place a year later. He also competed outside the US on numerous occasions. Surely if he was at his best during 95-98 he would have won more often. 6 wins throughout his whole career for such a formidable competitor is pathetic.
The politics aren't strong enough to give a top contender like Nasser no wins or top 3 placings, and therefore he did still get top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows, however if he were friendlier with the powers that be and not so outspoken many of those 2nd and 3rd placings would have been 1st and 2nds. And LMAO that his contest placings are "pathetic," using your logic only a couple of bodybuilders could avoid being labelled as "pathetic." How many times in your life have you been labelled as being the #1 in the world in whatever you do?
According to your previous posts nasser stayed quiet to avoid any controversy. Shawn continued to speak his mind at the risk of lower placings while nasser opted to stay quiet in fear until his retirement.
He was not as outspoken during his competitive years as he is today, but was outspoken nonetheless. He had a few contraversial interviews in Flex magazine back in 97 trashing much of the politics involved. Behind the scenes (i.e. not in Flex magazine publications) he had many negative encounters with Jim Manion as well.
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The politics aren't strong enough to give a top contender like Nasser no wins or top 3 placings, and therefore he did still get top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows, however if he were friendlier with the powers that be and not so outspoken many of those 2nd and 3rd placings would have been 1st and 2nds.
This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read here. now we're talking about levels of corruption?
Nasser was one of the best of his time, but he wasn't THE best....... fucking deal with it already
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This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read here. now we're talking about levels of corruption?
Nasser was one of the best of his time, but he was THE best....... fucking deal with it already
Thanks for admitting that he was "THE best" - truth comes out ;D
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Thanks for admitting that he was "THE best" - truth comes out ;D
fixed ;D
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why are you personally insulting him??.. according to you doing that means you cant beat him with logic ;D
irony alert
calling him a troll isn't an insult it's the truth , you're grasping at straws here kid
he was soundly beat eons ago now I'm just pointing out what he's been reduced to , much like yourself ;)
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This has been addressed many times by myself and Swami, including my posts within the last few days.
Actually he beat him much more than 9 times. If you spent the same time it took you to tally up the guys who beat Nasser in some few shows from 95 to 99 to do the same and see how many times Nasser beat Levrone during that time period you'll be surprised. Here's a hint, he beat Levrone in 3 consecutive Olympias 96, 97, and 98, many Euro shows and Arnold Classics.
how many ASC's did Nasser win compared to Kev :o
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The politics aren't strong enough to give a top contender like Nasser no wins or top 3 placings, and therefore he did still get top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows, however if he were friendlier with the powers that be and not so outspoken many of those 2nd and 3rd placings would have been 1st and 2nds. And LMAO that his contest placings are "pathetic," using your logic only a couple of bodybuilders could avoid being labelled as "pathetic." How many times in your life have you been labelled as being the #1 in the world in whatever you do?
He was not as outspoken during his competitive years as he is today, but was outspoken nonetheless. He had a few contraversial interviews in Flex magazine back in 97 trashing much of the politics involved. Behind the scenes (i.e. not in Flex magazine publications) he had many negative encounters with Jim Manion as well.
The politics aren't strong enough to give a top contender like Nasser no wins or top 3 placings, and therefore he did still get top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows, however if he were friendlier with the powers that be and not so outspoken many of those 2nd and 3rd placings would have been 1st and 2nds. And LMAO that his contest placings are "pathetic," using your logic only a couple of bodybuilders could avoid being labelled as "pathetic." How many times in your life have you been labelled as being the #1 in the world in whatever you do?
you're beyond delusional almost at Hulkster's level ......almost
you're way to biased and emotionally wrapped up to admit the obvious he simply wasn't good enough
He was not as outspoken during his competitive years as he is today, but was outspoken nonetheless. He had a few contraversial interviews in Flex magazine back in 97 trashing much of the politics involved. Behind the scenes (i.e. not in Flex magazine publications) he had many negative encounters with Jim Manion as well.
by outspoken do you mean bitter? he didn't have much to say back then now his career is long over and he's reduced to selling used briefs on his website he's trying to generate some publicity for a ' tell all book ' lol
nothing worse than has-beens crying about how they were shafted 12 years later speaks volumes of where he is emotionally
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This has been addressed many times by myself and Swami, including my posts within the last few days.
Actually he beat him much more than 9 times. If you spent the same time it took you to tally up the guys who beat Nasser in some few shows from 95 to 99 to do the same and see how many times Nasser beat Levrone during that time period you'll be surprised. Here's a hint, he beat Levrone in 3 consecutive Olympias 96, 97, and 98, many Euro shows and Arnold Classics.
1992 NOC
1992 Chicago Pro
1994 Mr Olympia 1996 GP Czech Nasser beat Kev
1995 GP England 1996 GP England
1995 GP Germany 1996 GP Germany
1995 GP Russia 1996 GP Russia
1995 GP Spain 1996 GP Spain
1995 Mr O 1996 GP Switzerland
1996 Mr O ( Nasser DQ ) 1997 ASC
1997 Czech GP
1997 GP England
1997 GP Finland
1997 GP Germany
1997 GP Hungary
1997 GP Russia
1997 GP Spain 1997 Mr O
1998 GP Finland
1998 GP Germany 1998 Mr O
1999 ASC
1999 GP England
1999 Mr O
1999 World Pro
2000 Mr O
2001 Mr O
2002 ASC
2002 Mr O
Nasser only beat Levrone 10 times and Kevin beat him 25 times , so your claim Nasser beat him ' much more than 9 times ' is a LIE
Levrone has much more professional wins than Nasser by far I'm not sure if this is a comparison to Kev but in all honesty there isn't any , Levrone kills him too
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Nasser only beat Levrone 10 times and Kevin beat him 25 times , so your claim Nasser beat him ' much more than 9 times ' is a LIE
Levrone has much more professional wins than Nasser by far I'm not sure if this is a comparison to Kev but in all honesty there isn't any , Levrone kills him too
I'm not surprised. Bob definately didn't major in math.
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Nasser only beat Levrone 10 times and Kevin beat him 25 times , so your claim Nasser beat him ' much more than 9 times ' is a LIE
Levrone has much more professional wins than Nasser by far I'm not sure if this is a comparison to Kev but in all honesty there isn't any , Levrone kills him too
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lol......this thread is Manlier than being Mauled alive by a white tiger at a Las Vegas show
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Flex Wheeler vs Nasser
1993 GP France 1995 GP Spain
1993 GP Germany 1995 Mr O
1996 Mr O ( Nasser DQ )
1997 ASC
1997 San Jose Pro
1998 ASC
1998 Mr O
1999 GP England
1999 Mr O
1999 World Pro
2000 Mr O
2002 Mr O
Nasser didn't fair so well against Flex 12 to 2 ;D
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Nasser 53 professional shows with just 6 career wins
Levrone 62 professional shows with 20 career wins
Flex 33 professional shows with 17 pro wins
Vince Taylor 74 professional shows with 21 pro wins
Labrada 24 professional shows with 7 pro wins
Nasser's record or lack there of speaks volumes on how great he was ;)
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LOL @ ND's pasting of contest history. I already acknowledged that his placings dropped (for many reasons) after 99, the discussion I was partaking in was that from 95 to mid-99, and my point still remains that during this period he had the most consistent record out of the men Keanu listed. Top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows and never placing below 4th. He did not "lose" the 96 AC as ND's pasted history implies - otherwise Jay Cutler also lost the 2001 Olympia and placed below everyone. Flex also lost the 97 Olympia because he withdrew knowing that he would not place in top few spots like Nasser did.
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LOL @ ND's pasting of contest history. I already acknowledged that his placings dropped (for many reasons) after 99, the discussion I was partaking in was that from 95 to mid-99, and my point still remains that during this period he had the most consistent record out of the men Keanu listed. Top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows and never placing below 4th. He did not "lose" the 96 AC as ND's pasted history implies - otherwise Jay Cutler also lost the 2001 Olympia and placed below everyone. Flex also lost the 97 Olympia because he withdrew knowing that he would not place in top few spots like Nasser did.
As usual you can't offer up a response because you were proven flat out wrong , you either lied or guessed he placed ahead of Kevin ' much more than 9 times '
it's NOT the 96 AC it's the 96 Olympia and he was DISQUALIFIED for cheating , Jay wasn't big difference , Jay had an angle Nasser didn't history shows Jay placed second and Nasser didn't place
Flex didn't lose the 1997 Mr Olympia because he never entered it in order to lose , if he did he probably would have lost but that's neither here nor there Nasser did NOT beat Flex Wheeler at the 1997 Mr Olympia that's a FACT
Nasser's record clearly shows he was a good bodybuilder 6 wins in 53 tries lol I know you think he's spectacular but he's not
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Shawn Ray beat Nasser 5 to 3 ;D
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It's called having a life outside of getbig.com and therefore not taking the time to respond to each and every silly post. But since you quoted yourself again I'll be nice and take the time to respond to you ;)
Nasser's prime was 95 to mid-99. During that time he got top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows, which is a pretty consistent record:
1995 Houston Pro Show First pro-show win. 1st
1995 NOC (NYC) 1st
1995 Mr. Olympia (Atlanta) 3rd
1995 Spain Pro Show 3rd
1995 Germany Pro Show 3rd
1995 England Pro Show 4th
1995 Russia Pro Show 3rd
1995 France Pro Show 3rd
1995 Ukraine Pro Show 2nd
1996 Mr. Olympia (Chicago) 3rd
1996 Spain Pro Show 3rd
1996 German Pro Show 2nd
1996 England Pro Show 2nd
1996 Czech Pro Show 1st
1996 Swiss Pro Show 1st
1996 Russia Pro Show 1st
1997 Arnold Classic (Columbus, Ohio) 2nd
1997 San Jose Pro Show 2nd
1997 Mr. Olympia (Long Beach) 2nd
1997 Hungary Pro Show 2nd
1997 Spain Pro Show 2nd
1997 Germany Pro Show 2nd
1997 England Pro Show 3rd
1997 Czech Pro Show 3rd
1997 Finland Pro Show 4th
1997 Russia Pro Show 3rd
1998 Arnold Classic (Columbus, Ohio) 2nd
1998 Mr. Olympia (NYC) 3rd
1998 Germany Pro Show 3rd
1998 Finland Pro Show 3rd
1999 Arnold Classic (Columbus, Ohio) 1st
Many of those 2nd and 3rd placings would have been 1st and 2nd if he was on more favourable terms with (by sucking up to) key IFBB officials. Anyone who knows Nasser personally knows he speaks his mind and calls it like he sees it, and doing this a few times behind the scenes over his career put him on the bad side of Manion and others with influence. Details will be in his upcoming book.
There are several reasons why his placings declined in the later years of his career, one of the major factors was the divorce with his wife which took a huge emotional toll at the time and also left him without the prevoius support he had in preparing his meals and helping in general with his contest prep. Regardless, 29 top 3 placings in 31 consecutive shows over 5 of the most competitive years in bb history is a very major achievement regardless of what haters like to say.
great to see Bigbobs telling it like it is, as always.
so many bottom -feeders here know so little about BB training and competing/prepping for shows- it is a full time job with all the food buying/prepping/cooking/cleaning up, not withstanding the training, up to 2x cardio/day etc
so many like Narcotic Dicky take the word of Mcgough and Flex Mag as gospel- just showing their ignorance and lack of real world BB knowledge.
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so many like Narcotic Dicky take the word of Mcgough and Flex Mag as gospel- just showing their ignorance and lack of real world BB knowledge.
very true.
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great to see Bigbobs telling it like it is, as always.
so many bottom -feeders here know so little about BB training and competing/prepping for shows- it is a full time job with all the food buying/prepping/cooking/cleaning up, not withstanding the training, up to 2x cardio/day etc
so many like Narcotic Dicky take the word of Mcgough and Flex Mag as gospel- just showing their ignorance and lack of real world BB knowledge.
Wow witty retort ::) Bob is really telling it like it is lol Nasser wasn't third place in 1996 HE WAS DISQUALIFIED Kevin Levrone was third place , just like Bob's assertion Nasser's beat Kevin ' much more than 9 times ' WRONG AGAIN and his brilliant epiphany somehow Nasser beat Flex Wheeler at the 1997 Olympia yet he never entered the contest to lose lol what was that again about ; real world BB knowledge ' ?
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very true.
Ronnie looks fuggin amazing here :o
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very true.
hahahah see backfire Dorian is killing him in that pose , you get credit for posting a decent Yates pic but you have access to much better ones but FEAR as usual prevents you for posting them , I don't blame you Ronnie sucked in that pose anyway , although he looks good that particular year but Yates is the front latspread
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Ronnie looks fuggin amazing here :o
his best ever shape 99.
even though FlowerBoy ND maintains that Peter McGough's quote about how Ronnie was softer in 99 than in 98 is true.. ::)
what bullshit.
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Narcotic Dicky
can't that psychology degree from that 3rd rate college you went to get you a job or do you spend your entire life on getibig?
hang on, its a bit slow @ the florist today?
if you want to believe everything you read in Flex Mag and quote it as truth in your love-in with Dorian Yates,go ahead.
Why did only Nasser test positive for diuretics in the 1996 O?- because Matarazo the snitch went straight up to Manion and Demilia after Nasser told him what he was using adn they wanted to single some out to promote the image of their so called "drug testing"/"looking after the health of the athletes" line. there was no test- if there was ALL the 96 O guys would have tested positive also.
ALL olympia competitors from the 70-s thru to today use diuretics in contest prep-i would say ALL amateurs @ a national and even state level will be using them also.
to believe otherwise is ignorant and naive. but hang on, thats exactly what Narcotic Dicky is- living in an internet world.
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his best ever shape 99.
even though FlowerBoy ND maintains that Peter McGough's quote about how Ronnie was softer in 99 than in 98 is true.. ::)
what bullshit.
Oh you forgot Ronnie who said on THREE separate occasions his 98 Olympia was his best because his conditioning was better ;D ;)
and getting frustrated back to stupid names ?
2001 ASC is his best showing , I'm still waiting for these insane amounts of quotes that say 99 was , by credible sources not Youtube fan-boys
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can't that psychology degree from that 3rd rate college you went to get you a job or do you spend your entire life on getibig?
hang on, its a bit slow @ the florist today?
hahaha
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Oh you forgot Ronnie who said on THREE separate occasions his 98 Olympia was his best because his conditioning was better ;D ;)
and getting frustrated back to stupid names ?
2001 ASC is his best showing , I'm still waiting for these insane amounts of quotes that say 99 was , by credible sources not Youtube fan-boys
your not getting it.
ronnie is just as wrong as McGough if he maintains he was at his best in 98.
it doesn`t matter who says it, its still wrong if real life shows it to be.
try and understand this for once.. ::)
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sorry Big Ron and McGough, you both are incorrect: :P
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Narcotic Dicky
can't that psychology degree from that 3rd rate college you went to get you a job or do you spend your entire life on getibig?
hang on, its a bit slow @ the florist today?
if you want to believe everything you read in Flex Mag and quote it as truth in your love-in with Dorian Yates,go ahead.
Why did only Nasser test positive for diuretics in the 1996 O?- because Matarazo the snitch went straight up to Manion and Demilia after Nasser told him what he was using adn they wanted to single some out to promote the image of their so called "drug testing"/"looking after the health of the athletes" line. there was no test- if there was ALL the 96 O guys would have tested positive also.
ALL olympia competitors from the 70-s thru to today use diuretics in contest prep-i would say ALL amateurs @ a national and even state level will be using them also.
to believe otherwise is ignorant and naive. but hang on, thats exactly what Narcotic Dicky is- living in an internet world.
Again PROVE there was no test don't tell me there was , you're making a claim to the contrary provide proof and good luck
and I could be a gimmick like you who is scared shitless to post this under your regular name as usual , and FYI how many pairs of used briefs are you the proud owner of? and are you wearing them now?
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your not getting it.
ronnie is just as wrong as McGough if he maintains he was at his best in 98.
it doesn`t matter who says it, its still wrong if real life shows it to be.
try and understand this for once.. ::)
Ronnie and McGough were at both contests and Hulkster was NOT real life isn't pics
Hulkster = stupid to claim they are wrong and he is right and I laugh at your stupidity ;D :D
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ND`s favorite dorian pic :-X
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lets not forget that even in the internet world Narcotic Dicky was crushed into submission by Hulkster- remember it was narcotic dicky who called for A truce.
so even in the internet world, Narcotic Dicky is a loser.
go on, post a pic of your Dorian Yates wannabe-physique Narcotic DIcky- lets see all your wonderful BB knowledge and training applied to yourself.
but of course you wont post a pic.
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sorry Big Ron and McGough, you both are incorrect: :P
Sure and Shawn Perine was wrong too , everyone is wrong and they're all LYING lol
and great comparison NO wonder why you think he was better conditioned in 98 you're used a Youtube screen grab VS a great scan , fair , balance and honest lol
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Ronnie and McGough were at both contests and Hulkster was NOT real life isn't pics
Hulkster = stupid to claim they are wrong and he is right and I laugh at your stupidity ;D :D
ronnie also stated in 99 that he was better than in 98 and harder.
what do you say to this quote, Mr. Selective Quotes.. ::)
you see, you pick and chose quotes when there are contradictory quotes out there FROM THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE lol
and then you dismiss all the pics and vids on top that show the quote was correct... ::)
you really are something..in a very bad way.. :-\
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lets not forget that even in the internet world Narcotic Dicky was crushed into submission by Hulkster- remember it was narcotic dicky who called for A truce.
so even in the internet world, Narcotic Dicky is a loser.
go on, post a pic of your Dorian Yates wannabe-physique Narcotic DIcky- lets see all your wonderful BB knowledge and training applied to yourself.
but of course you wont post a pic.
yup yup you're under a gimmick and Hulkster chases me into every thread , you and him keep proving me right ALL the time ;)
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98 ronnie looked not nearly this good:
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
sorry ND, your agenda is fucked.
what are you going to do now..run back to the florist perhaps..lol
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ND`s favorite dorian pic :-X
LOL
yes, we all know Narcotic Dickey is quite the closet homosexual- his obsession with Heath Ledger as severe as that with Yates- how many times have you watched Broke Back Mountain DIcky?
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ronnie also stated in 99 that he was better than in 98 and harder.
what do you say to this quote, Mr. Selective Quotes.. ::)
you see, you pick and chose quotes when there are contradictory quotes out there FROM THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE lol
and then you dismiss all the pics and vids on top that show the quote was correct... ::)
you really are something..in a very bad way.. :-\
that was 99 Ronnie has stated numerous times AFTER THE FACT he was better he amended his statement after his career was done , and ironically it coincides with what all the respected experts said at the time
1998 he's harder and drier ;)
you can't beat the experts kid
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98 ronnie looked not nearly this good:
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
sorry ND, your agenda is fucked.
what are you going to do now..run back to the florist perhaps..lol
Great job posting Bizzy's ' proof ' lmao
looking as good is one thing I personally think he looks better fuller in 99 but make no mistake stupid 1998 he's harder and drier that's a fact ;)
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LOL
yes, we all know Narcotic Dickey is quite the closet homosexual- his obsession with Heath Ledger as severe as that with Yates- how many times have you watched Broke Back Mountain DIcky?
This is what you have to offer up in the face of defeat? personal attacks thanks for admitting you're defeated and have nothing else to offer ;)
and Nasser sells used briefs to his male fans I believe they call that projection
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ND`s favorite dorian pic :-X
You're the one with it on your hard drive I never posted that pic ;D
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This is what you have to offer up in the face of defeat? personal attacks thanks for admitting you're defeated and have nothing else to offer ;)
and Nasser sells used briefs to his male fans I believe they call that projection
what defeat?
HUlkster crushed you in your argument with him?
its a real shame you cant use your psychology degree in the real world.
whats wrong with Nasser doing that? are you homophobic? there's nothing wrong with being homosexual or maybe you have an issue with that.
alot of closet homosexuals are- maybe you should psychoanalyse yourself Dicky.
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what defeat?
HUlkster crushed you in your argument with him?
its a real shame you cant use your psychology degree in the real world.
whats wrong with Nasser doing that? are you homophobic? there's nothing wrong with being homosexual or maybe you have an issue with that.
alot of closet homosexuals are- maybe you should psychoanalyse yourself Dicky.
Is this you Sherif using the team nasser community account today? I think nassers posts on this account hold a bit more sting to them..
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what defeat?
HUlkster crushed you in your argument with him?
its a real shame you cant use your psychology degree in the real world.
whats wrong with Nasser doing that? are you homophobic? there's nothing wrong with being homosexual or maybe you have an issue with that.
alot of closet homosexuals are- maybe you should psychoanalyse yourself Dicky.
Oh really? ;D Ronnie went on record 3 separate occasions he could NEVER beat Dorian if he faced him at his best ;) case closed , I win ;D Hulkster is reduced to personal attacks and chasing me around in every single thread and every Yates thread he's lost in grand fashion
you're the homophobe who keep trying to insinuate I'm gay you're projecting your own latent feelings onto others and what's wrong with an ex-pro selling his used briefs? lol where should I begin? at first you guys DENIED < DENIED < DENIED he did now you're reduced to claiming what's the big deal lol
when you are reduced to personal attacks you're admitting defeat thanks for doing so
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Ronnie went on record 3 separate occasions he could NEVER beat Dorian if he faced him at his best case closed
please explain how ronnie's comment on politics has anything to do with who had the better physique.
in case you didn't notice, many talk of the bullshit judging during dorian's (post tear) reign.
what makes you think Ronnie wasn't doing the same thing? ::)
because its clear he was.
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but make no mistake stupid 1998 he's harder and drier that's a fact
if it is a fact, then why is it not shown in all the pics and vids, like any other contest comparison would show in the history of the sport? lol ::)
eg. nasser was in worse shape in 99 than in 97.
guess what? all pics and vids show this.
but somehow with Ronnie, when he was 'worse' in 99 (sic) all the pics and vids show him looking better/just as dry if not more so in 99 than in 98..
yet you still insist McGough is correct and he was softer in 99.
::)
please explain this mystery. we are all waiting.
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what defeat?
HUlkster crushed you in your argument with him?
yup. I crushed him so bad he won't go near that thread with a ten foot pole, the embarassment he suffered is just too much and he doesnt want to go down that road again..
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dorian is the man with no Bicep
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dorian is the man with no Bicep
yup. musclemag called him the One Armed Bandit in 94..as certain writers for the mag (whoever wrote the muscle go round section) were extremely critical of his 'win' that year, and even more so of Lenda Murray's Ms O. win that year also..
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Is this you Sherif using the team nasser community account today? I think nassers posts on this account hold a bit more sting to them..
i wish my english was that good ::)
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Ronnie and McGough were at both contests and Hulkster was NOT real life isn't pics
Hulkster = stupid to claim they are wrong and he is right and I laugh at your stupidity ;D :D
Isn't it interesting that at the mere mention of Dorian's name, Huckster ALWAYS comes out of the woodwork with his attacks in an effort to devalue Yates' legacy. If Huckster was really so dismissive of Dorian's physique and career as he likes to portray, then why the need to enter every thread relating to Dorian to offer his usual vilification? Huckster can't stand the fact that in the years since Dorian's retirement, he continues to garner respect. It's almost as though Huckster gets jealous when Dorian gets more attention than his personal hero Ronnie, and as a result, has to go out of his way to defame Yates. One would think if he were truly that confident in Ronnie's alleged dominance, that he would simply take pride in that belief. Obviously Huckster isn't as confident in Ronnie's ability to hold up to the Yates legacy as he likes to suggest. I guess Yates is still casting a big shadow, even after all these years.
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Isn't it interesting that at the mere mention of Dorian's name, Huckster ALWAYS comes out of the woodwork with his attacks in an effort to devalue Yates' legacy. If Huckster was really so dismissive of Dorian's physique and career as he likes to portray, then why the need to enter every thread relating to Dorian to offer his usual vilification? Huckster can't stand the fact that in the years since Dorian's retirement, he continues to garner respect. It's almost as though Huckster gets jealous when Dorian gets more attention than his personal hero Ronnie, and as a result, has to go out of his way to defame Yates. One would think if he were truly that confident in Ronnie's alleged dominance, that he would simply take pride in that belief. Obviously Huckster isn't as confident in Ronnie's ability to hold up to the Yates legacy as he likes to suggest. I guess Yates is still casting a big shadow, even after all these years.
Very well said. Dorian is clearly the best ever when it comes to presenting freaky size with superb conditioning, hence his dominance.
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The reason Nasser never won the Mr. O is because of his mediocre-at-best back. It is ridiculous to claim that the IFBB was out to get him; he never would have won any pro show, including the Arnold, nor would he have been a legitimate Mr. O contender if that were the case.
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To bad that Ronnie didn't just hover around the same size and shape of the 99' Olympia because if he did, he would still be going and easily have the record for sure.. :-\
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you tried kiwi. ;D
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please explain how ronnie's comment on politics has anything to do with who had the better physique.
in case you didn't notice, many talk of the bullshit judging during dorian's (post tear) reign.
what makes you think Ronnie wasn't doing the same thing? ::)
because its clear he was.
Ronnie never once mentioned ' politics ' when he said Yates would beat him , he did when Jay beat him as well as Gunther ...once again you're reduced to speaking for him .
SHOW ME where Ronnie Coleman claims Dorian would only beat him because of politics opppps YOU CAN'T AND NEVER COULD which ended any ' debate ' between us ;)
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if it is a fact, then why is it not shown in all the pics and vids, like any other contest comparison would show in the history of the sport? lol ::)
eg. nasser was in worse shape in 99 than in 97.
guess what? all pics and vids show this.
but somehow with Ronnie, when he was 'worse' in 99 (sic) all the pics and vids show him looking better/just as dry if not more so in 99 than in 98..
yet you still insist McGough is correct and he was softer in 99.
::)
please explain this mystery. we are all waiting.
It is shown in pics and video you'd have to know what to look for and we already established YOU DON'T you're the same moron who claimed Dorian lost the 93 Olympia and his conditioning was nothing more than a ' myth ' what do you know about conditioning? NOTHING
and it's not just McGough who says Ronnie was harder & drier in 98 it's Ronnie himself as well as Perine and others you still have NO explanation why 2001 is considered his all-time best and not 1999 by the experts , as usual you contradict the experts
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yup. I crushed him so bad he won't go near that thread with a ten foot pole, the embarassment he suffered is just too much and he doesnt want to go down that road again..
Why would I need to post in the truce thread? I beat you using your own hero ;) and I don't need to post in it because YOU follow me into every single thread anyway
you're very much in a fantasy world in all aspects of your life where I magically ran away from you , yet everyone can see I'm in another thread correctly your bullshit ;) nothing's changed it's the same shit I never ran from you I'm still here still correctly you
and embarassment ( sic ) is when your own hero says he couldn't touch Dorian on three separate occasions ;D
and embarrassment would be using photoshopped pics and being busted by one of the best contest photographers in the business ( you ) embarrassment would be busted making up at least two quotes ( you ) embarrassment would be your own hero admitting multiple occasions he wouldn't touch Dorian , embarrassment would be following me from thread to thread like a lost puppy ( you ) embarrassment would be someone telling ALL the experts they are flat out wrong despite never once being in attendance at ANY pro show in question ( you ) now what was that about embarasment ( sic ) again? yeah I thought so ;)
I own you Hulkster which is why you try and constantly prove me wrong , you're a defeated man and know it
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dorian is the man with no Bicep
could be worse he could be the man with no back , or no calves ;D
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Isn't it interesting that at the mere mention of Dorian's name, Huckster ALWAYS comes out of the woodwork with his attacks in an effort to devalue Yates' legacy. If Huckster was really so dismissive of Dorian's physique and career as he likes to portray, then why the need to enter every thread relating to Dorian to offer his usual vilification? Huckster can't stand the fact that in the years since Dorian's retirement, he continues to garner respect. It's almost as though Huckster gets jealous when Dorian gets more attention than his personal hero Ronnie, and as a result, has to go out of his way to defame Yates. One would think if he were truly that confident in Ronnie's alleged dominance, that he would simply take pride in that belief. Obviously Huckster isn't as confident in Ronnie's ability to hold up to the Yates legacy as he likes to suggest. I guess Yates is still casting a big shadow, even after all these years.
Hahahahah great post Hulkster knows Dorian is better which is exactly why he spends so much time trying to tear him down he thinks this some how helps his case , it kills him Ronnie never duplicated Dorian's dominance and the fact that to this day his own hero speaks so highly of him and he concedes Dorian would beat him if they faced off again
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yup. musclemag called him the One Armed Bandit in 94..as certain writers for the mag (whoever wrote the muscle go round section) were extremely critical of his 'win' that year, and even more so of Lenda Murray's Ms O. win that year also..
Musclemag International Feb 1995
On the 1994 Mr Olympia
Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.
I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
thanks for playing dummy
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Musclemag International Feb 1995
On the 1994 Mr Olympia
Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.
I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
thanks for playing dummy
Dorian was far from his best in 94, but it was due to his bicep tear which caused him to cease training for something like 4-5 weeks before the show. Nonetheless, he was able to justifiably beat a best ever Shawn Ray, further proof of how far above the field Dorian was in terms of completeness, size, and conditioning.
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LMAO, great thread kiwiol
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Even an "off" Dorian looked unreal...
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More of 94 -
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=293385.0;attach=334022;image)
One of the best bodybuilding shots ever
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Insane lat spread. I wish someone like Dorian/Ronnie was still competing. None of today's pros have that WOW factor that puts them far above the rest.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=293385.0;attach=334022;image)
One of the best bodybuilding shots ever
Taken at the 1994 Mr. O nightshow. It is amazing how much better Dorian looked at the night show compared to pre-judging.
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Musclemag International Feb 1995
On the 1994 Mr Olympia
Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.
I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
thanks for playing dummy
your qouting the contest review. not the muscle go round section in the begining of the mag. too bad I didn't throw it out years ago, I could post the quotes and laugh at your misfortune
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=293385.0;attach=334022;image)
One of the best bodybuilding shots ever
not so when you compare to someone much better:
it certainly knocks it down a few notches, doesn't it?
note the shape/vascularity of the arms, the pec detail, the 1000x better quads, cut and full, the trim waist. its not even close.
as always, the nuthuggers post pics of dorian standing alone and drool.
little do they know, he's not as good when you compare him to others
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not so when you compare to someone much better:
it certainly knocks it down a few notches, doesn't it?
note the shape/vascularity of the arms, the pec detail, the 1000x better quads, cut and full, the trim waist. its not even close.
as always, the nuthuggers post pics of dorian standing alone and drool.
little do they know, he's not as good when you compare him to others
Yes, Doz compared so poorly with others that he won 6 Mr. O titles and is arguably the most dominant Mr. O ever. Wow, you are becoming more and more delusional with your Dorian hate, it's funny actually.
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Ronnie never once mentioned ' politics ' when he said Yates would beat him , he did when Jay beat him as well as Gunther ...once again you're reduced to speaking for him .
SHOW ME where Ronnie Coleman claims Dorian would only beat him because of politics opppps YOU CAN'T AND NEVER COULD which ended any ' debate ' between us ;)
its sad how you nuthuggers are the only idiots dumb enough not to understand what ronnie was alluding to in that quote.
everyone tells you otherwise because they know better.
but your too stubborn to budge.
ps if I recall the quote was years before he himself was bitten by the politics of the IFBB, so you cant use jay/gunter as examples, it was a totally different time for ronnie back then. obviously.
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Yes, Doz compared so poorly with others that he won 6 Mr. O titles and is arguably the most dominant Mr. O ever. Wow, you are becoming more and more delusional with your Dorian hate, it's funny actually.
he wouldn't have been very dominant or won ANY Mr. O's had Ronnie 99 was standing next to him all the time, as you just found out the hard way..
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its sad how you nuthuggers are the only idiots dumb enough not to understand what ronnie was alluding to in that quote.
everyone tells you otherwise because they know better.
but your too stubborn to budge.
ps if I recall the quote was years before he himself was bitten by the politics of the IFBB, so you cant use jay/gunter as examples, it was a totally different time for ronnie back then. obviously.
Oh so you're Ronnie's spokesman now? a mind reader ::) show me where he said Dorian would win because of politics , I'll be waiting ;)
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not so when you compare to someone much better:
it certainly knocks it down a few notches, doesn't it?
note the shape/vascularity of the arms, the pec detail, the 1000x better quads, cut and full, the trim waist. its not even close.
as always, the nuthuggers post pics of dorian standing alone and drool.
little do they know, he's not as good when you compare him to others
Sorry, it's apples and oranges. Dorian's physique flows and makes him look great. Ronnie too looks good in his own way.
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your qouting the contest review. not the muscle go round section in the begining of the mag. too bad I didn't throw it out years ago, I could post the quotes and laugh at your misfortune
yeah , yeah , who cares what they said in the snipit in the ' muscle go round ' section , they admit Dorian was a deserving winner and as usual you have nothing
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Oh so you're Ronnie's spokesman now? a mind reader ::) show me where he said Dorian would win because of politics , I'll be waiting ;)
its called understanding the english language in the context of the sport your supposed to know something about..
neither of which you apprently can grasp.. :-\
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he wouldn't have been very dominant or won ANY Mr. O's had Ronnie 99 was standing next to him all the time, as you just found out the hard way..
Sorry, but a peaked Dorian equals a 99 Ronnie.
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Sorry, it's apples and oranges. Dorian's physique flows and makes him look great. Ronnie too looks good in his own way.
yeah, its apples and oranges alright.
:P
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not so when you compare to someone much better:
it certainly knocks it down a few notches, doesn't it?
note the shape/vascularity of the arms, the pec detail, the 1000x better quads, cut and full, the trim waist. its not even close.
as always, the nuthuggers post pics of dorian standing alone and drool.
little do they know, he's not as good when you compare him to others
wow typical HUlkster points out the things he likes which he thinks wins a pose and totally neglects ALL the others like balanced development which Dorian kills Ronnie on , muscle density , latsweep , lat shape , completeness
and he wraps it up with more ignorance , yeah because Dorian was never compared to anyone in his career ::) REALITY dummy is Yates NEVER lost a pre-judging as a Mr Olympia that means he destroyed EVERYONE he was compared with including Ronnie & Nasser
you found ONE good pic of Ronnie's front latspread wow-wee ::) I can post 30 of Dorian from ALL contests and ALL years , the front latspread has never been a great pose for Ronnie due to his long arms and short torso and his inability to effectively do it ironically his rear latspread is better than his front but both still are lacking compared to Dorian who was a master at these poses
Dorian owns this pose old news
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its called understanding the english language in the context of the sport your supposed to know something about..
neither of which you apprently can grasp.. :-\
It's called MAKING EXCUSES because your own hero destroyed everything you typed for years and now you have NOTHING ;)
sweetest revenge is beating you using your own hero ;D not once , not twice bit THREE times Ronnie said Dorian would beat him and you still haven't recovered lmao now you're in another Yates thread trying to do damage control HAHAHHAHa
I own you
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Sorry, it's apples and oranges. Dorian's physique flows and makes him look great. Ronnie too looks good in his own way.
Exactly I told Hulkster that a good shot of Ronnie doing the pose and this kid takes it and runs LMFAO I can admit when Ronnie looked great but the front latspread is Dorian's pose , Ronnie was lucky if he could beat Haney in this pose
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Exactly I told Hulkster that a good shot of Ronnie doing the pose and this kid takes it and runs LMFAO I can admit when Ronnie looked great but the front latspread is Dorian's pose , Ronnie was lucky if he could beat Haney in this pose
I just got off the phone with NASSER just after he got off from his auto oil changing job he said he didnt want anymore of Dorrian kicking his ass on stage so he retired
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I just got off the phone with NASSER just after he got off from his auto oil changing job he said he didnt want anymore of Dorrian kicking his ass on stage so he retired
lmfao
I wonder if Nasser uses synthetic vs conventional oil so he can go longer in between changes
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I just got off the phone with NASSER just after he got off from his auto oil changing job he said he didnt want anymore of Dorrian kicking his ass on stage so he retired
BWA HAHA HAHAHAHA AHAHAHA................t hat one actually made me laugh out loud. very funny.
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lmfao
I wonder if Nasser uses synthetic vs conventional oil so he can go longer in between changes
synthenol
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yeah, its apples and oranges alright.
:P
defeated ;)
when you're reduced to these type of ' comparisons ' you're admitting defeat
no bad pics of Ronnie needed Dorian kills him at what you think is his best
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defeated ;)
when you're reduced to these type of ' comparisons ' you're admitting defeat
no bad pics of Ronnie needed Dorian kills him at what you think is his best
Yea I think defeating him on hair too may have figured into the decision