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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Tony Doherty on August 11, 2009, 03:26:03 AM
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One of my trainers, PJ is making a documentary, that has been featured on Good Morning America (ABC).
He has had tons of publicity worldwide and is on his way back. Good story and a cool unit. I have sponsored him and backed him all the way. He has had some great feedback, some positive, some negative and some hilarious. Some obese people have found his journey offensive, others have been motivated.
PJ has just been on Good morning America, it is about to get a whole lot bigger. He is doing real well and has dropped about 20lb already.
See it here
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8291573
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is PJ still "training" clients with this fatty shape?
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Already posted.
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is PJ still "training" clients with this fatty shape?
Yes he is busier than ever.
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its a VERY smart move.
hes gonna have clients lined up for the rest of his life.
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losing weight is piss.....its going into single digits thats the hard part
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He has Gyno really bad, even when lean. He is a complete moron for doing this as he will have irreparable damage in the form of loose skin and stretch marks.
Also he is incredibly weak and all of his pics are photoshopped to some degree.
He is just a gimmick. Your gimmick. Tell him to sign up and post here. I guarantee he wouldn`t last 10 posts. Send him on over cupcake so we can have some fun with the powder puff.
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Dumbass could have just walked around with a backpack filled with plates to get the same effect "to see what its like".
He is then also going to further the false meme of "eating clean" and then fictitiously demonize food which will just add to the ever growing body of Bro-Pseudo-Gym "Science" thus furthering the dis and mis information.
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its called marketing adonis.
And this dude is gonna have clients lined of for the rest up his life.
he has been on tv, radio etc etc
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the government where im at... wants to tax fast foods etc to curb "bad eating habits"... retarded logic
sort of like the excise tax on petrol and cigarettes
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its called marketing adonis.
And this dude is gonna have clients lined of for the rest up his life.
he has been on tv, radio etc etc
No. This flatfooted greenhorn really believes in the gym myths and lies himself and cannot wait to spread the false information.
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the government where im at... wants to tax fast foods etc to curb "bad eating habits"... retarded logic
I have no problem with it...........the problem is that fresh foods/meats/fruit and veg will have to come down in price for that to be viable.
The lower socioeconomic sectors are the ones who are the fattest and most unhealthy.
It says a lot about the world we live in today where fresh natural foods are seen as exotic and exclusive and simply out of reach, finincially, for a lot of families.
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He has Gyno really bad, even when lean. He is a complete moron for doing this as he will have irreparable damage in the form of loose skin and stretch marks.
Also he is incredibly weak and all of his pics are photoshopped to some degree.
He is just a gimmick. Your gimmick. Tell him to sign up and post here. I guarantee he wouldn`t last 10 posts. Send him on over cupcake so we can have some fun with the powder puff.
No photoshop big ears, I have been there for most of his photoshoots. He has better shape than you and will be far more successful in his journey.
Although you see moron, I see clever. When I see you and read your crap posts, I see moron/geek/jealous. It is all in the perception.
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Adonis in all fairness... I never felt like splurging on chicken breasts, oats, egg whites etc...
but you can be damned sure in a state of dieting... those cookies, ice cream, choclately things don't just stop at 600cals or watever lol...
those sorts of patterns of eating don't just stop at one "refeed" day either... haha
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its called marketing adonis.
And this dude is gonna have clients lined of for the rest up his life.
he has been on tv, radio etc etc
he will still be working at 'dollars for hours'
no way to make real $$$
He is a technician
all personal trainers are
avg pt makes 25K per year
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he will still be working at 'dollars for hours'
no way to make real $$$
He is a technician
all personal trainers are
avg pt makes 25K per year
O RLY? ::)
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No photoshop big ears, I have been there for most of his photoshoots. He has better shape than you and will be far more successful in his journey.
Although you see moron, I see clever. When I see you and read your crap posts, I see moron/geek/jealous. It is all in the perception.
Seen this on the local online papers a lot. It's a nice idea, but we know here that if he's got the motivation to get and stay in the shape he was in originally then he's got the drive to do it again.
'Normal' people never will have an idea, but it's a nice to get some attention.
Hope he didn't have to pay for that singlet.
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its called marketing adonis.
And this dude is gonna have clients lined of for the rest up his life.
he has been on tv, radio etc etc
pshaw
this guy would not know marketing
if it were a shark
and it swam up and bit a chunk out of
his flabby ass-lunk
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its called marketing adonis.
And this dude is gonna have clients lined of for the rest up his life.
he has been on tv, radio etc etc
Correct, he has been on TV in Germany, Japan, Brazil UK, USA NZ and Australia. His doco will be a worldwide hit. Bigger than supersize me, all that guy did was eat maccas for a month.
Speaking of marketing, everything has been shot in my gym with my shirts, singlets and branding in every story. haha
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Personal Training does have shocking career success rates.
Here in Aus, 70% of all PT's drop out of the industry within 18 months and move onto something completely different.
Ok job.......not the best career.
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he will still be working at 'dollars for hours'
no way to make real $$$
He is a technician
all personal trainers are
avg pt makes 25K per year
Unlike Fitness Cock-Sucking South Africans First, i am sure TD doesn't screw his personal trainers out of some stupid amount of $$$ each week.
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O RLY? ::)
yes
really
shit job
most who engage are selling cars the next month
sorry to burst your bubble
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Correct, he has been on TV in Germany, Japan, Brazil UK, USA NZ and Australia. His doco will be a worldwide hit. Bigger than supersize me, all that guy did was eat maccas for a month.
Speaking of marketing, everything has been shot in my gym with my shirts, singlets and branding in every story. haha
Supersize me was the biggest piece of garbage that did nothing but spread lies and disinformation in a totally unrealistic and dishonest way.
Same way as this PJ moron is doing.
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Correct, he has been on TV in Germany, Japan, Brazil UK, USA NZ and Australia. His doco will be a worldwide hit. Bigger than supersize me, all that guy did was eat maccas for a month.
Speaking of marketing, everything has been shot in my gym with my shirts, singlets and branding in every story. haha
sounds like advertising
which is NOT marketing
fan boy
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Unlike Fitness Cock-Sucking South Africans First, i am sure TD doesn't screw his personal trainers out of some stupid amount of $$$ each week.
$5 per client per session, best deal ever. However I am fussy as to who I let in. FFF
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Personal Training does have shocking career success rates.
Here in Aus, 70% of all PT's drop out of the industry within 18 months and move onto something completely different.
Ok job.......not the best career.
Good job while studying at uni or something like that...
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No photoshop big ears, I have been there for most of his photoshoots. He has better shape than you and will be far more successful in his journey.
Although you see moron, I see clever. When I see you and read your crap posts, I see moron/geek/jealous. It is all in the perception.
You are pretty ignorant if you don`t think his photos are retouched and have staged lighting. Even in his awful fat pictures they are retouched.
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Personal Training does have shocking career success rates.
Here in Aus, 70% of all PT's drop out of the industry within 18 months and move onto something completely different.
Ok job, not the best career.
I think at FF they just do it to fuck some clients and then get over it ;)
Sooo funny one girl i work with wanted her trainer, finally after being rejected a few times, asked him out directly, he said nothing then invited her out at 11pm on a Sat night :D, she was pissed. She looks pretty decent just fucking annoying.
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Adonis in all fairness... I never felt like splurging on chicken breasts, oats, egg whites etc...
but you can be damned sure in a state of dieting... those cookies, ice cream, choclately things don't just stop at 600cals or watever lol...
those sorts of patterns of eating don't just stop at one "refeed" day either... haha
Uh, I eat whatever I want year round and stay in single digit bodyfat.
Matter of Fact, I just baked a Chocolate Stout Cake yesterday and had a Bacon Sandwich for Breakfast this morning.
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You are pretty ignorant if you don`t think his photos are retouched and have staged lighting. Even in his awful fat pictures they are retouched.
Wrong again mate, lighting in the before shots but not shopped at all.
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You are pretty ignorant if you don`t think his photos are retouched and have staged lighting. Even in his awful fat pictures they are retouched.
You've done exactly the same thing as this guy.
You're just pissed you didn't get the attention because you're ugly.
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Good job while studying at uni or something like that...
Yep, good for a younger person. Wise to have a "bigger plan" in mind though.....
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Uh, I eat whatever I want year round and stay in single digit bodyfat.
Matter of Fact, I just baked a Chocolate Stout Cake yesterday and had a Bacon Sandwich for Breakfast this morning.
What I am saying is in a state of hunger it is easy to go overboard on those goodies you stock in your house... and thus reach a surplus for the day...
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You've done exactly the same thing as this guy.
You're just pissed you didn't get the attention because you're ugly.
So true, TA could fatten up like that and all people would see is those ears, he is one attention seeking ugly mother.
Hey adam go bake a stupid cake from an old cookbook, no one cares
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I think at FF they just do it to fuck some clients and then get over it ;)
Sooo funny one girl i work with wanted her trainer, finally after being rejected a few times, asked him out directly, he said nothing then invited her out at 11pm on a Sat night :D, she was pissed. She looks pretty decent just fucking annoying.
Most likely. They go to Fitness Institute of Aus, get qualified in 6 weeks and start working. ok when your young, but a career out of it is unlikely.....
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You've done exactly the same thing as this guy.
You're just pissed you didn't get the attention because you're ugly.
I`m just pissed that he is spreading dis and mis information is all.
I couldn`t care less beyond that principle. Some fat ass is going to see his crappy documentary and think that he too will have to follow such a clownish and overly unnecessary regimen to reduce the body fat.
This will just muddy the waters even further and the demonization of all good foods will continue. This has a direct impact on the average consumer as food corporations and restaurants capitalize on this ignorance by charging MORE for LESS calories and taking tasty things off of menus bending to the public outcry and demonization in order to not lose business.
Basically PJ and his ilk fuck it up for those of us who love food and know that you can eat whatever you want and be more ripped than PJ ever will be.
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Most likely. They go to Fitness Institute of Aus, get qualified in 6 weeks and start working. ok when your young, but a career out of it is unlikely.....
Worst thing is, FF put them on a twelve month contract at $300 a week, their contract is ten pages long and they sue the parents when things dont work out, fuckin criminals "FFF"
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What I am saying is in a state of hunger it is easy to go overboard on those goodies you stock in your house... and thus reach a surplus for the day...
No it isn`t. Its the same for any food. I eat like this 365 days a year and never have the compulsion to over indulge unneccesairly. Ask Wavelength and he will tell you the same.
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Correct, he has been on TV in Germany, Japan, Brazil UK, USA NZ and Australia. His doco will be a worldwide hit. Bigger than supersize me, all that guy did was eat maccas for a month.
Speaking of marketing, everything has been shot in my gym with my shirts, singlets and branding in every story. haha
Exactly. Cant believe some people doesn't understand this.
Fucking retards.
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Spamtastic!
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i'm coming into this thread late but (and i say this with all due respect to the dude who gained the weight) that is really a dumb thing to do.
I can only imagine how awkward that whole experience is/was
why would anyone give up looking amazing just to look like shit- I mean, i don't get it.
Do a reality show, get into porn- whatever. Do whatever you need to do to get that attention fix you need but having a crew tape you getting fat is paramount to the worst part of hell ..for me at least
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I`m just pissed that he is spreading dis and mis information is all.
I couldn`t care less beyond that principle. Some fat ass is going to see his crappy documentary and think that he too will have to follow such a clownish and overly unnecessary regimen to reduce the body fat.
This will just muddy the waters even further and the demonization of all good foods will continue. This has a direct impact on the average consumer as food corporations and restaurants capitalize on this ignorance by charging MORE for LESS calories and taking tasty things off of menus in order to bend to the public demonization in order to not lose business.
Basically PJ and his ilk fuck it up for those of us who love food and know that you can eat whatever you want and be more ripped than PJ ever will be.
I understand what you are saying...........but an obsese person who would follow "your" approach to dieting would most likely fail.
Tell an obese person to eat whatever thay want, just don't go over 1600 cals is like giving a serial killer a gun and telling them not to kill. They lack willpower and would most likely fail.
It may be easier for you, but for a lot of fat people, self control is where they come undone. Some may succeed, but the vast majority would fail.
Plus they are unhealthy from a cardiovascular point of view. Cardio would do them good.
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Before you know it, you will be paying 8 dollars for a single serving size of 100 calories all because of dumbfucks like PJ who do nothing but add to the disinformation and hysteria surrounding obesity.
Giving him any credence whatsoever is detrimental if you are a foodie and enjoy the freedom to have quality food at reasonable prices.
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No it isn`t. Its the same for any food. I eat like this 365 days a year and never have the compulsion to over indulge unneccesairly. Ask Wavelength and he will tell you the same.
You have tried to turn this into a thread about you but it is about PJ. If you made a doco, no one would watch it because it would be boring, like you. Now run along and make a new thread about yourself and you amazing life and amazing recipes. PJ knows what he is doing and will succeed.
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Worst thing is, FF put them on a twelve month contract at $300 a week, their contract is ten pages long and they sue the parents when things dont work out, fuckin criminals "FFF"
Exactly.
I have mate who worked with them for 4 months then left, still had to pay "rent" for the remaining 8 months even when he was no longer working for FF, as it was "in his contract"
FFF!
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Adonis is jelous lol
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i'm coming into this thread late but (and i say this with all due respect to the dude who gained the weight) that is really a dumb thing to do.
I can only imagine how awkward that whole experience is/was
why would anyone give up looking amazing just to look like shit- I mean, i don't get it.
Do a reality show, get into porn- whatever. Do whatever you need to do to get that attention fix you need but having a crew tape you getting fat is paramount to the worst part of hell ..for me at least
You aren't late, you saw where I started the thread on it yesterday, yet hype-master MoM just had to start another one...which has turned into how great it is for business for this twink to wear a string tank w/his logo on it.
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I understand what you are saying...........but an obsese person who would follow "your" approach to dieting would most likely fail.
Tell an obese person to eat whatever thay want, just don't go over 1600 cals is like giving a serial killer a gun and telling them not to kill. They lack willpower and would most likely fail.
It may be easier for you, but for a lot of fat people, self control is where they come undone. Some may succeed, but the vast majority would fail.
Plus they are unhealthy from a cardiovascular point of view. Cardio would do them good.
I have had a zero percent failure rate with anyone I have instructed. I usually set people at 2000 calories and if they like to do cardio, they can do it.
Bottom line is, it will take limiting calories in the same manner at the same levels regardless of his or her food choices.
Its even MORE difficult if you limit your food choices unneccesairly as you will never truly be satiated and your cravings will go unanswered.
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Adonis is jelous lol
Again,
I am just aghast at the fact that he is spreading lies and disinformation. He should be held accountable for it.
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Again,
I am just aghast at the fact that he is spreading lies and disinformation. He should be held accountable for it.
99.98% of the media does this every single day about everything.
And its even worse when it comes to working out/nutrition
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nope incorrect because the condition that got the obese person to where they were was a process of binging... it always starts with just a little of this or that... you think they wanted to get obese or fat? psychologically they are conditioned to have a little pizza for example and then it turns into 2 pizzas, bottle of coke, chips, ice cream and watever the fuck else is in that house...
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99.98% of the media does this every single day about everything.
And its even worse when it comes to working out/nutrition
And PJ is just furthering this nonsense.
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99.98% of the media does this every single day about everything.
And its even worse when it comes to working out/nutrition
That is a pure fact.
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nope incorrect because the condition that got the obese person to where they were was a process of binging... it always starts with just a little of this or that... you think they wanted to get obese or fat? psychologically they are conditioned to have a little pizza for example and then it turns into 2 pizzas, bottle of coke, chips, ice cream and watever the fuck else is in that house...
Wrong. Obesity is caused by spending less time in a caloric deficit than not over a period of time with varying frequency in relation to activity levels.
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nope incorrect because the condition that got the obese person to where they were was a process of binging... it always starts with just a little of this or that... you think they wanted to get obese or fat? psychologically they are conditioned to have a little pizza for example and then it turns into 2 pizzas, bottle of coke, chips, ice cream and watever the fuck else is in that house...
Most people get to obesity by just never spending a cumulative amount of time in a caloric deficit, not by binge eating.
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Correct, he has been on TV in Germany, Japan, Brazil UK, USA NZ and Australia. His doco will be a worldwide hit. Bigger than supersize me, all that guy did was eat maccas for a month.
Speaking of marketing, everything has been shot in my gym with my shirts, singlets and branding in every story. haha
what are 'maccas'?
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what are 'maccas'?
It's what us Aussies call McDonalds.
You guys sometimes call it "Mickey D's"..........we say "Maccas".
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Most people get to obesity by just never spending a cumulative amount of time in a caloric deficit, not by binge eating.
Wrong again, some do, some dont, most obese people binge eat. Try going to a food court at the mall one day and watch some of the whales go for it, better still find one of those all you can eat joints and just watch them go for it. Although some never spend time in calorie deficit, some are just greedy delusional pigs. You just cant generalize when it comes to fatties, they are all on their own journey.
PJ is genuinely trying to motivate people to get moving, it cannot be a bad thing.
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Everybody can find a way to stick to a caloric deficit if he just ignores the unessential factors and makes the diet as convenient as possible.
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what are 'maccas'?
what do they call them in France?
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what do they call them in France?
Royal' with cheese
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so some skinny twink with gyno gained 90 lbs of fat just so he can make a documentary showing how easy it is to lose it? and this "Messiah" dude thinks this is great because said twink is going to do all his training at his gym? And this is supposed to be some great thing and not simply nothing more than the money grab that it is.
go out and get a real fat person and help them lose 90 lbs, not some skinny twink who purposely gorged himself to gain that weight and then will simply go back to his normal eating patterns and lose the weight much easier than any true obese person ever could
complete scam, all involved should be proud
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so some skinny twink with gyno gained 90 lbs of fat just so he can make a documentary showing how easy it is to lose it? and this "Mesiah" dude thinks this is great because said twink is going to do all his training at his gym? And this is supposed to be some great thing and not simply nothing more than the money grab that it is.
go out and get a real fat person and help them lose 90 lbs, not some skinny twink who purposely gorged himself to gain that weight and then will simply go back to his normal eating patterns and lose the weight much easier than any true obese person ever could
complete scam, all involved should be proud
exactly
it used to kill me when EAS made Clark Bartram get fat for a 12 week transformation photo shoot and pushing that towards the regular people
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When PJ first proposed to do this, the most common comment was that it would be easy to stack this weight on and then take it off, as he was already in shape. So to add to the degree of difficulty he stayed fat for an extra 3 months. The ensured that his metabolism really crashed. In the end he was eating far less and still getting fatter. Just think what he gave up to do this, the body most of you would kill for. At least he is doing somethig with his life, dose not need your aproval.
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so some skinny twink with gyno gained 90 lbs of fat just so he can make a documentary showing how easy it is to lose it? and this "Messiah" dude thinks this is great because said twink is going to do all his training at his gym? And this is supposed to be some great thing and not simply nothing more than the money grab that it is.
go out and get a real fat person and help them lose 90 lbs, not some skinny twink who purposely gorged himself to gain that weight and then will simply go back to his normal eating patterns and lose the weight much easier than any true obese person ever could
complete scam, all involved should be proud
I have had gyms for 23 years and have helped hundreds, maybe thousands of fatties to get in shape. A few have got some media attention, most have not. I support anyone that wants to improve themselves. I still think that what he is doing is good, if it helps to save even one person from themselves it is good, it sure wont hurt anyone.
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PJ has an ugly head, gyno, tiny legs... guy will never turn pro
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what ever happened to maxs muscle tv on aurora channel? was a good show
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what ever happened to maxs muscle tv on aurora channel? was a good show
We are filming series 3 right now, it will be on air later this year. Glad you enjoy it, it was a lot of fun to make.
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PJ has an ugly head, gyno, tiny legs... guy will never turn pro
haha ...... His seedy nipple ring just tops it off nicely...
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Attention-seeking whore. You know you are at the zenith of whoring when you appear on A Current Affair.
I know of one person that decided to "get fat" for a weight loss competition. Walked away with $50k cash. It wouldn't be too hard if you had the motivation to get in shape before and know what diet to follow. ::)
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is there a website where PJ goes more into detail of this whole scenario?
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there are biological hereditary and psychological/environemental reasons why people get obese. I dont see this clown adressing any of these issues.
He however knows how to bullshit people and how to impress em. He will for sure fool a lot of unaware people who will fall for the novelty of the way he advertises his "product".
Nice marketing/advertising ideas, will for sure make a lot of money out of it...but will it help anyone ? no. And as usual it's not really intended to, the whole thing is intended to fool ignorant people and take their cash, period. Same old story over and over.
People who dont know how to work out or how to lose fat doing cardio need a coach to teach em how to do it properly and become autonomous.
It takes time , some psychology , and it varies from one person to another. There is no miracle formula for everyone. And some other people learn how to do this by themselves without any help.
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so some skinny twink with gyno gained 90 lbs of fat just so he can make a documentary showing how easy it is to lose it? and this "Messiah" dude thinks this is great because said twink is going to do all his training at his gym? And this is supposed to be some great thing and not simply nothing more than the money grab that it is.
go out and get a real fat person and help them lose 90 lbs, not some skinny twink who purposely gorged himself to gain that weight and then will simply go back to his normal eating patterns and lose the weight much easier than any true obese person ever could
complete scam, all involved should be proud
exactly; i doubt they re going to talk about somatotypes, the genetical differences between endomorphs and meso/ectos...
It's just another scam to fool hopeless people deeply burried in their weaknesses and shortcomings, they ll get fooled and will end as miserable as they were before watching the ads and falling for em, but with less money on their bank account.
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pshaw
Never mind... it is Dusa. :-\