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As we always like to point out: There are no coincidences in Obama world. Little Julia Hall is just the latest in-the-tank questioner with Obama campaign/Democrat ties to turn up “randomly” at presidential health care forums.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/11/little-girl-at-obama-town-hall-has-not-so-random-political-connections/
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Michelle Malkin is a nutty fringe goof.
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What's this thread about?
Michelle Malkin?
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She always makes solid informative points.
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yea.. im pretty sure this is the norm from both sides
to look in to it any further than that is just sissy politics
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yea.. im pretty sure this is the norm from both sides
to look in to it any further than that is just sissy politics
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Michelle Malkin is a nutty fringe goof.
What's this thread about?
Michelle Malkin?
She always makes solid informative points.
your opinion of Michelle does not hide the fact that Obama had to Bus in his audience :o
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Obama's Townhall Audience :o
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This kinda crap just shows that the people we elect are at best inept, they need to have everything scripted.
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This kinda crap just shows that the people we elect are at best inept, they need to have everything scripted.
Obama was supposed to be about " Change" and "transparency" ::)
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To Kazan's point, it shows that both sides (politicians in general) play games.
Many of Obama's townhalls, speeches, and addresses have had people picked to attend and placed in the front. Same as some of the healthcare townhalls, there are groups attending the meetings that want to cause trouble. I still think most are regular citizens but no doubt there are some special interest reps who want to cause trouble. All the more to the point of having limited but necessary government!! I can't understand why this isn't more clear to people.
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your opinion of Michelle does not hide the fact that Obama had to Bus in his audience :o
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Obama's Townhall Audience :o
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Where was she from? Obama gave her a bus ticket?
What's wrong with asking a question at a town hall meeting?
Is that the same thing as hired guns busting up a town hall meeting?
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Where was she from? Obama gave her a bus ticket?
What's wrong with asking a question at a town hall meeting?
Is that the same thing as hired guns busting up a town hall meeting?
You see this is why you and I will never agree probably on anything, you only see one side, your side. It's OK for a democrat/liberal whatever to seed the audience with questions that can be responded to via the teleprompter.
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What's wrong with a little girl asking a question at a town hall meeting?
And what makes you think a little girl her age wouldn't have a question she would want to pose to the President?
Clearly her mother is a supporter, ...and surely she has witnessed first hand all the hard work her mother put into his campaign. she must know how much faith her mother has in him and for her to see & hear condemnations of him and/or his efforts to reform healthcare, ...surely she would question it. It's quite normal.
And as such an ardent and long time supporter of the President, ...why the heck wouldn't her and her mother come out to see at a town hall when he comes to town? If you'd put in the same type of effort to get a man elected President, ...are you saying you wouldn't avail yourself of the opportunity to go to a town hall in your area to hear him speak? Much ado about nothing. Malkin is simply being Malkin, ...except now she's sunk so low as to impune the character and/ or integrity of a little girl she doesn't even know. I wonder if she obtained permission to use the child's picture on her column. She's exploiting the likeness of a minor, in order to push her political agenda. Hall's mom is a lawyer, ...I hope she sues Malkin's pants off!
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You see this is why you and I will never agree probably on anything, you only see one side, your side. It's OK for a democrat/liberal whatever to seed the audience with questions that can be responded to via the teleprompter.
Sure.
Who planted her in the audience?
Is she not a resident of the area?
This is another non-issue brought up by people with too much time on their hands.
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Malkin makes herself well informed and she is probably a very smart person but she can be abrasive and maybe too strongly opinionated. The one thing I like about her is that she does back up her arguments, from what I've seen, regardless if you agree or disagree with her opinions. I hate people who shout at each other with little facts. I do not like some of these people disrupting the townhall meetings...but I also don't like officials giving them boilerplate generic answers without being fully informed (like Specter). There has been nothing to say this plan will save us money. The CBO is the most reputable group to analyze the plan so far and they say it will cost more.
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your opinion of Michelle does not hide the fact that Obama had to Bus in his audience :o
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What makes you think Obama bussed them in? Did you ever stop to think that perhaps it might have been the work of a quick thinking entrepreneur? I know many people who will rent a private coach, and sell tickets. just about every weekend there's some quick entrepreneur selling tickets for a bus leaving from Toronto to south of the border for a shopping excursion... day trips & weekend jaunts. I see flyers all over the place all the time. If you had questions or concerns about a very important issue... wouldn't you want to go to the nearest town hall
to you, ...or even want to travel a few counties over, if it meant being able to hear from the President himself? I would think people would pay rather highly for a ticket on that bus
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Obama's Townhall Audience :o
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Oooooh... look at those pretty green shoots. ya know when they grow up and get big & strong,
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Sure.
Who planted her in the audience?
Is she not a resident of the area?
This is another non-issue brought up by people with too much time on their hands.
But on the other hand you believe anyone that disagree's and shows any disent is a plant by the evil right wing conspiracy. Whats wrong with them asking a question? Are they not residents of the area?
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So there are charges on both sides of "audience-planting."
Does anyone feel one is acceptable and one is not depending upon your party affiliation?
Or would neither be acceptable or would both be acceptable?
Does anyone find it less believable that "their" party would engage in audience-planting than the opposite party?
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What's wrong with a little girl asking a question at a town hall meeting?
Good grief. ::) It's lame no matter who allows it and you're smart enough to know why.
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Good grief. ::) It's lame no matter who allows it and you're smart enough to know why.
Its a total propoganda ploy and use of children to advance a political agenda. disgusting.
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Its a total propoganda ploy and use of children to advance a political agenda. disgusting.
Both parties do it.
Palin can't tweet her daily tweet without mentioning her Downs child or the troops.
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What does Palin mentioning her son or the troops have to do with bussing in people for a townhall meeting allegedly open to the public, and implanting a little girl into the crowd to ask a scripted question?
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But on the other hand you believe anyone that disagree's and shows any disent is a plant by the evil right wing conspiracy. Whats wrong with them asking a question? Are they not residents of the area?
There is no other hand.
Did Obama or the WH orchestrate the event?
Not that I can see.
So what if she's a democrat like her parents.
Is this even remotely similar to the WH giving payola to news people to print WH copy? Or the Bush WH tactic of holding TH meetings but eliminating any non-republican from the affair?
Get a grip.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html
Screening Tactics at Bush Events Questioned
These teabag rightwing thugs are given a chance to speak and they fuck it up by inciting riots.
I don't want to hear whining about an 11 year old girl's question.
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There is no other hand.
Did Obama or the WH orchestrate the event?
Not that I can see.
So what if she's a democrat like her parents.
Is this even remotely similar to the WH giving payola to news people to print WH copy? Or the Bush WH tactic of holding TH meetings but eliminating any non-republican from the affair?
Get a grip.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html
Screening Tactics at Bush Events Questioned
These teabag rightwing thugs are given a chance to speak and they fuck it up by inciting riots.
I don't want to hear whining about an 11 year old girl's question.
How many times are you going to go back to the well with Bush? Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a rightwing thug or a wingnut or a nutjob blah blah blah infinium.
I don't really give a shit if you don't want to hear about, you can't have it both ways, they are either both wrong for seeding the audience or you have no problem with operatives in the audience.
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How many times are you going to go back to the well with Bush? Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a rightwing thug or a wingnut or a nutjob blah blah blah infinium.
I call it a point of reference. Comparison brings out some truth.
Doesn't it?
I don't really give a shit if you don't want to hear about, you can't have it both ways, they are either both wrong for seeding the audience or you have no problem with operatives in the audience.
See, this is why I draw the comparison. If you'd have analyzed it, you wouldn't be asking me this question.
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Bill O'Reilly just pointed that out on the 11 p.m. replay of the Factor.
In fact, O'Reilly appears to have just challenged the President to come on his show, or on Fox News in general, if he wants to make his case for his healthcare program. After all, per O'Reilly words, that's where the viewers are.
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Bill O'Reilly just pointed that out on the 11 p.m. replay of the Factor.
In fact, O'Reilly appears to have just challenged the President to come on his show, or on Fox News in general, if he wants to make his case for his healthcare program. After all, per O'Reilly words, that's where the viewers are.
LOL... obama doesn't need to go on OReilly.
Obama is above calling on FOX reporters.
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If thats the case, then why did he go on O'Reilly in the first place prior to the election?
Since, as Obama's brilliant press secretary put it, all of this negative backlash is the product of cable news, why not go on cable news to put this thing to bed once and for all?
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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If thats the case, then why did he go on O'Reilly in the first place prior to the election?
Since, as Obama's brilliant press secretary put it, all of this negative backlash is the product of cable news, why not go on cable news to put this thing to bed once and for all?
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Indeed it is!! But, Gibbs basically didn't have the nerve to say that it's FOX NEWS that's supposedly throwing the monkeywrench in the plans of Obamacare.
The other "cable news" network are still prostrate before Obama, especially MSNBC. If they ride Obama's jock anymore, he'll need more cigarettes (and I hear he's trying to quit).
LOL... obama doesn't need to go on OReilly.
Obama is above calling on FOX reporters.
Please!!! O'Reilly's the one guy that can cut through the rhetoric and get to the meat and potatoes of the matter. As George said, if Fox News is supposedly the entity hurting his plan (Heaven forbid, the Dems get a clue and figure out it's their own screwball plan that the problem), then that's would be the one place to set the record straight.
After all, Fox has the viewers, especially during primetime (not that O'Reilly needs any help, beating the tar out of Olbermann).
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What does Palin mentioning her son or the troops have to do with bussing in people for a townhall meeting allegedly open to the public, and implanting a little girl into the crowd to ask a scripted question?
Was the question a valid one in that if mirrored what a large percent of the population wants to know?
Whether planted or not, scripted or not, ...did it address a question on the minds of many people?
If it did, ...it's legit, valid, ...and would be downright irresponsibile NOT to get it in.
Let me put it this way:
If there were 5 major points within a proposed bill that were heavily misunderstood by the public, due to lies, and political propaganda by opponents, ...and a politician planted someone in the audience to ask "Sir, what are the 5 major points of the proposed bill?" I would say that was valid and legitimate, ...and I would appreciate the politician's wisdom, judgement, and foresight, in recognizing the need for clear, cogent, clarification on a misunderstood issue. I would consider having to listen to the response to those "planted" questions, as a far better, and far more respectful use of the time that I invested to listen, ...as well as the time the politician has invested to attend, than having to wade through irrelevant questions about Bo the first dog, or sit around losing my hearing due to all the shouting of a bunch of rabid mindless chicken littles.
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Was the question a valid one in that if mirrored what a large percent of the population wants to know?
Whether planted or not, scripted or not, ...did it address a question on the minds of many people?
If it did, ...it's legit, valid, ...and would be downright irresponsibile NOT to get it in.
Let me put it this way:
If there were 5 major points within a proposed bill that were heavily misunderstood by the public, due to lies, and political propaganda by opponents, ...and a politician planted someone in the audience to ask "Sir, what are the 5 major points of the proposed bill?" I would say that was valid and legitimate, ...and I would appreciate the politician's wisdom, judgement, and foresight, in recognizing the need for clear, cogent, clarification on a misunderstood issue. I would consider having to listen to the response to those "planted" questions, as a far better, and far more respectful use of the time that I invested to listen, ...as well as the time the politician has invested to attend, than having to wade through irrelevant questions about Bo the first dog, or sit around losing my hearing due to all the shouting of a bunch of rabid mindless chicken littles.
Obama has had multiple town halls, press conferances, etc and still has not dispelled anything. He cant.
All he does is attack doctors, attack insurance companies, attack pharma companies, and offers nothing in the way of a decent explanation of what is in this.
You know what Jag, all Obama has to say is the following and the public will behind him:
"I will not sign any health bill that the members of the Senate, Congress, Federal employees, and my own family are not subject to themselves"
That it Jag. Its its good enough for them, its good enough for me.
I will change my tune 180 degrees on health care of they do that.
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In fact, O'Reilly appears to have just challenged the President to come on his show, or on Fox News in general, if he wants to make his case for his healthcare program. After all, per O'Reilly words, that's where the viewers are.
hahahahaha. B/c Bill O'Reilly is such an important man, I think the president of the US should drop his schedule and discuss events.
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hahahahaha. B/c Bill O'Reilly is such an important man, I think the president of the US should drop his schedule and discuss events.
Why not, he seems to have time to throw a party at the white house every wednesday night, on the tax payers dime. Or jet off to New York for date night to see a play. Guess going on O Reilly where he isn't going to get the kid glove treatment to "dispell all inaccuracies" about the healt care plan would takeway to much of his time ::)
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Why not, he seems to have time to throw a party at the white house every wednesday night, on the tax payers dime. Or jet off to New York for date night to see a play. Guess going on O Reilly where he isn't going to get the kid glove treatment to "dispell all inaccuracies" about the healt care plan would takeway to much of his time ::)
Those are important things.
Bill O'Reilly and his show are not important.
This is why Obama is a success. He can prioritize.
He jettisons the crap - O'Reilly and his garbage show, which incidentally thrives on misinformation and shutting down debate....no wonder the teabaggers like the cut of his jib.
He keeps the parties going though....that's Obama for the win.
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Deck- You would be correct... Only Obama has appeared on his show before and his press secretary blames Fox News for the backlash against healthcare reform.
Wouldn't it make sense to put all the rumors to bed and simply tell America what he intends to do about healthcare?
On a side note, ( and this is not mentioned very often) Obama wanted the healthcare bill PASSED before August 1. Could you imagine? If nothing else this whole debate has kept him honest and prevented another insane bill from being rammed down Americas throat.
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Those are important things.
Bill O'Reilly and his show are not important.
This is why Obama is a success. He can prioritize.
He jettisons the crap - O'Reilly and his garbage show, which incidentally thrives on misinformation and shutting down debate....no wonder the teabaggers like the cut of his jib.
He keeps the parties going though....that's Obama for the win.
This is perhaps the most asinine post I have ever seen on GETBIG, and that is no small task. Throwing parties and date night are much more important than actually giving a coherent explanation of why his health care bill is so good for America. Yeah I know he won't be able to use his teleprompter on O'Reilly and that will just muck up the works.
Yeah big win for Obama ::) Maybe you enjoy being a surf, but I don't.
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Obama has had multiple town halls, press conferances, etc and still has not dispelled anything. He cant.
All he does is attack doctors, attack insurance companies, attack pharma companies, and offers nothing in the way of a decent explanation of what is in this.
You know what Jag, all Obama has to say is the following and the public will behind him:
"I will not sign any health bill that the members of the Senate, Congress, Federal employees, and my own family are not subject to themselves"
That it Jag. Its its good enough for them, its good enough for me.
I will change my tune 180 degrees on health care of they do that.
But Obama has said that on many occasions. He has said he wants to make available to the public, the very same health insurance that he and his family, and members of congress have.
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Why not, he seems to have time to throw a party at the white house every wednesday night, on the tax payers dime. Or jet off to New York for date night to see a play. Guess going on O Reilly where he isn't going to get the kid glove treatment to "dispell all inaccuracies" about the healt care plan would takeway to much of his time ::)
What's wrong with President Obama having regular date nights with his wife to keep the romantic fires burning?
He's a healthy virile happily married man. He's a President not a Republican, ...he's still allowed to fuck his wife. ;D
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What's wrong with President Obama having regular date nights with his wife to keep the romantic fires burning?
He's a healthy virile happily married man. He's a President not a Republican, ...he's still allowed to fuck his wife. ;D
Correction, sorry decker, this is the most asinine post I have seen on GETBIG, even if it was tongue in cheek.
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Correction, sorry decker, this is the most asinine post I have seen on GETBIG, even if it was tongue in cheek.
lighten up coach
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Correction, sorry decker, this is the most asinine post I have seen on GETBIG, even if it was tongue in cheek.
Ha ha. funny post. ;D ;D
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LOL... obama doesn't need to go on OReilly.
Obama is above calling on FOX reporters.
Although he doesn't seem to be above taking actual air-time and policy time to do public battle with Rush Limbaugh...
I mean....really?
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Correction, sorry decker, this is the most asinine post I have seen on GETBIG, even if it was tongue in cheek.
You worry me. Although O'Reilly adds nothing to the mix, I would have thought my joke was obvious to anyone.