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Title: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 03:35:33 AM
http://mmahits.com/fight-video/mma-video/strikeforce-gina-carano-vs-cristiane-santos/

Never actually seen an entire fight with girls, And to be honest, I was dissapointed.. I thought they were gonna be better then that..
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: divcom on August 16, 2009, 03:45:22 AM
1st time here also.  it's like gina got a bunch of cupcake matches to move up or something.  cy is hard for a chick.  as far as fight went...with girls it's going to be a cat fight no matter how skilled or weight strong they are...just dont have the raw upperbody strengh of men.  in a rematch if necessary gina would have to out kick her, is dead meat on the floor or exchange fist shots.  anyway...cy did walk through about 3 elbows i saw that must say something about her?     
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: kyomu on August 16, 2009, 03:49:02 AM
http://mmahits.com/fight-video/mma-video/strikeforce-gina-carano-vs-cristiane-santos/

Never actually seen an entire fight with girls, And to be honest, I was dissapointed.. I thought they were gonna be better then that..
Fair enough

Cyborg is way better fighter.

But Carano has resisted way longer than i imagined.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 03:50:35 AM
Poor technique from the both of them... And cyborg had a americana  LOCKED IN and she trains BJJ and couldn't finish it  ???

maby I just told myself they would look better then they did.

In k-1 and kickboxing etc the girls are NUTS when they fight... they look 10000% better then compared to this..
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: kyomu on August 16, 2009, 03:51:50 AM
Poor technique from the both of them... And cyborg had a americana  LOCKED IN and she trains BJJ and couldn't finish it  ???
That was strange.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Mars on August 16, 2009, 03:54:02 AM
hows it going
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: divcom on August 16, 2009, 03:54:12 AM


Cyborg only lost.  A good brasilian ground fighter.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 03:57:56 AM
That was strange.

VERY stange... A brasilian training BJJ that cant even do a americana  ???

Its BASIC BJJ training that when you do a americana you keep the arms CLOSE to the opponents body, and preferebly as low as possible, close to the obliques NOT above her fucking shoulder..  Very very very very basic.... And she did it competly wrong  ???


can that BJJ guy come in here and comment on this lol..
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: kyomu on August 16, 2009, 04:00:39 AM


Cyborg only lost.  A good brasilian ground fighter.
Higher level fight here.

Ground technic rules.
Thats why i hate american fighters who dont know any ground technic and only punching like stupid.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 16, 2009, 04:01:35 AM
VERY stange... A brasilian training BJJ that cant even do a americana  ???

Its BASIC BJJ training that when you do a americana you keep the arms CLOSE to the opponents body, and preferebly as low as possible, close to the obliques NOT above her fucking shoulder..  Very very very very basic.... And she did it competly wrong  ???


can that BJJ guy come in here and comment on this lol..

Blow job job ???
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: kyomu on August 16, 2009, 04:03:18 AM
VERY stange... A brasilian training BJJ that cant even do a americana  ???

Its BASIC BJJ training that when you do a americana you keep the arms CLOSE to the opponents body, and preferebly as low as possible, close to the obliques NOT above her fucking shoulder..  Very very very very basic.... And she did it competly wrong  ???
can that BJJ guy come in here and comment on this lol..
Haha, Maybe Gina is a mutant whose body is like that of octopus. ;D
Who knows?

If it is, maybe its good to hit it too. :P
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 04:03:42 AM
Higher level fight here.

Ground technic rules.
Thats why i hate american fighters who dont know any ground technic and only punching like stupid.

thats because americans want to make it Entertaining for the fans mostly. :)
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 04:04:45 AM
Haha, Maybe Gina is a mutant whose body is like that of octopus. ;D
Who knows?

If it is, maybe its good to hit it too. :P

She didnt keep the arm close to the body... thats the only reason gina got out of it =)
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: kyomu on August 16, 2009, 04:05:22 AM
thats because americans want to make it Entertaining for the fans mostly. :)
Are you sure? :-\

But for us(japanese) , its quite infantile. :-\
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: kyomu on August 16, 2009, 04:06:31 AM
She didnt keep the arm close to the body... thats the only reason gina got out of it =)
But, still its because of bad technic of Cyborg no?
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: divcom on August 16, 2009, 04:07:05 AM
Higher level fight here.

Ground technic rules.
Thats why i hate american fighters who dont know any ground technic and only punching like stupid.



krazy can testify to that.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: johnnynoname on August 16, 2009, 04:07:40 AM
not shocked that gina lost but still.....GODDAMN SHE HAS A GREAT FACE

Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 04:07:56 AM
But, still its because of bad technic of Cyborg no?

Yes its Only because of bad technic of Cyborg..   And thats a VERY basic move, probably taught within the first week of BJJ training.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: kyomu on August 16, 2009, 04:10:49 AM
Yes its Only because of bad technic of Cyborg..   And thats a VERY basic move, probably taught within the first week of BJJ training.
;D
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: johnnynoname on August 16, 2009, 04:12:01 AM
Yes its Only because of bad technic of Cyborg..   And thats a VERY basic move, probably taught within the first week of BJJ training.

since when did you become Roger Gracie?
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 04:12:58 AM
;D

lol!

And Im serious. When I trained shootfighting I
think the second practise we was thought that move and the first thing he said was "KEEP THE ELBOW CLOSE TO THE BODY" second fucking week, and that wasn't even bjj lol.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 04:15:01 AM
since when did you become Roger Gracie?

I was born in Brazil.. spent my first 8 years there..
























J/K  ;D
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: johnnynoname on August 16, 2009, 04:19:39 AM
I was born in Brazil.. spent my first 8 years there..







so did I
at least that is what i tell girls at bars

the only difference is that i don't say 8 years
switch to "the first 4 years of my life" and then it will be more believable
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: ironneck on August 16, 2009, 06:05:12 AM
she destroys her cute face
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Tre on August 16, 2009, 06:29:32 AM
lol!

And Im serious. When I trained shootfighting I
think the second practise we was thought that move and the first thing he said was "KEEP THE ELBOW CLOSE TO THE BODY" second fucking week, and that wasn't even bjj lol.

There's a huge difference between 'what you learn in class' and what you're able to execute once the bell rings. 

I wasn't surprised that Gina left herself open for that, but I also wasn't that surprised when she was able to escape.  I thought that she would end up being submitted by a sneaky joint lock. 

That may have been Cyborg's only mistake, but it was just a positioning issue.  Gina doesn't know ground counters well at all, but she's strong. 

Gina didn't put on the show I expected which meant that Cyborg couldn't showcase all her skill, but all in all, it was a good fight. 
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 06:36:54 AM
There's a huge difference between 'what you learn in class' and what you're able to execute once the bell rings. 

I wasn't surprised that Gina left herself open for that, but I also wasn't that surprised when she was able to escape.  I thought that she would end up being submitted by a sneaky joint lock. 

That may have been Cyborg's only mistake, but it was just a positioning issue.  Gina doesn't know ground counters well at all, but she's strong. 

Gina didn't put on the show I expected which meant that Cyborg couldn't showcase all her skill, but all in all, it was a good fight. 

Its a rookie misstake.

Cyborg Lifes and trains in Brazil.. she should have No problem doing that..
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: divcom on August 16, 2009, 07:05:30 AM
Its a rookie misstake.

Cyborg Lifes and trains in Brazil.. she should have No problem doing that..

rookie mistake by anderson also and he's on another level.  even the best fall asleep at the wheel.  hype and adre may have got to her.



we are the arm QBs.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: johnnynoname on August 16, 2009, 07:07:23 AM
anderson's loses in PRIDE are highly suspect

even though im a big fan of Takase's, i still think his win against against anderson was suspect, as well

EDIT: and don't get me started on the chonan fight
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 07:10:43 AM
rookie mistake by anderson also and he's on another level.  even the best fall asleep at the wheel.  hype and adre may have got to her.



we are the arm QBs.

I dont understand, you compare that to a basic move in bjj?  ???

Silva didn't pay attention and paid for it..
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: divcom on August 16, 2009, 07:11:50 AM
anderson's loses in PRIDE are highly suspect

even though im a big fan of Takase's, i still think his win against against anderson was suspect, as well

EDIT: and don't get me started on the chonan fight

ok...i'd have to agree.  they are all like flash in the pan quick finishes with actual harm to him.  ok...he's a bit too over confident at times.  
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: johnnynoname on August 16, 2009, 07:13:54 AM
when i mean "suspect" i hope everyone knows that i'm trying to say that they may have been "works" cuz PRIDE was known to tell a fighter to take a dive (ie any fight that Takada won in PRIDE.  and I hate to say that cuz i love takada)
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2009, 07:19:20 AM
carano didn't have the eye of the tiger.

She let cyborg up TWICE.  She also didn't attack when cyborg was on her back, expecting to get pummeled.  Most fighters would have destroyed a cyborg on her back like that.  Gina let her stand up.  She wanted a glamourous stand-up fight.

this was probably the birth and death of MMA fighting.  Carano knows her bread is buttered from being hot, and couldn't wait to get out of the ring and to her makeup counter.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Marty Champions on August 16, 2009, 07:23:04 AM
carano didn't have the eye of the tiger.

She let cyborg up TWICE.  She also didn't attack when cyborg was on her back, expecting to get pummeled.  Most fighters would have destroyed a cyborg on her back like that.  Gina let her stand up.  She wanted a glamourous stand-up fight.

this was probably the birth and death of MMA fighting.  Carano knows her bread is buttered from being hot, and couldn't wait to get out of the ring and to her makeup counter.

lol fuck that bitch she needs to stick to going out to night clubs and getting fucked by black men and white men too   ;D
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: divcom on August 16, 2009, 07:28:47 AM
carano didn't have the eye of the tiger.

She let cyborg up TWICE.  She also didn't attack when cyborg was on her back, expecting to get pummeled.  Most fighters would have destroyed a cyborg on her back like that.  Gina let her stand up.  She wanted a glamourous stand-up fight.

this was probably the birth and death of MMA fighting.  Carano knows her bread is buttered from being hot, and couldn't wait to get out of the ring and to her makeup counter.

why would she want to stay on the ground with girl?  i can guess her people said keep it upright. she's a bit taller with longer arms but that cy shooting hard straight shots at her.  her elbows and shots didnt move cy back.  maybe she uses her knees more in a rematch.  maybe she needs to go to brasil get her a$$ wiped in a couple matches to get better which i doubt.  she goes back to tomato fights and gets that avon contract.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Pete Nice on August 16, 2009, 07:36:14 AM
why would she want to stay on the ground with girl?  i can guess her people said keep it upright. she's a bit taller with longer arms but that cy shooting hard straight shots at her.  her elbows and shots didnt move cy back.  maybe she uses her knees more in a rematch.  maybe she needs to go to brasil get her a$$ wiped in a couple matches to get better which i doubt.  she goes back to tomato fights and gets that avon contract.

You're a shit poster, "Divcom"
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: divcom on August 16, 2009, 07:38:13 AM
You're a shit poster, "Divcom"

 ???, what difference does it make?
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Pete Nice on August 16, 2009, 07:40:40 AM
???, what difference does it make?

Well fuck, none I guess  ???
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 09:13:26 AM
carano didn't have the eye of the tiger.

She let cyborg up TWICE.  She also didn't attack when cyborg was on her back, expecting to get pummeled.  Most fighters would have destroyed a cyborg on her back like that.  Gina let her stand up.  She wanted a glamourous stand-up fight.

this was probably the birth and death of MMA fighting.  Carano knows her bread is buttered from being hot, and couldn't wait to get out of the ring and to her makeup counter.

Hmm, Cyborg is a BJJ fighter and Carano has good thai boxing and boxing.. Thats why she let her back up..
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Pecs on August 16, 2009, 09:59:57 AM
rookie mistake by anderson also and he's on another level.  even the best fall asleep at the wheel.  hype and adre may have got to her.



we are the arm QBs.

Silva was beating the guy up before that
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 16, 2009, 10:04:12 AM
like i told "swede" yesterday women fighting's a fucking joke and this fight proves it, as does the typical reaction to it.

when that shemale from Brazil put her in a situation, carano did not counter with technique, but just started being a chick about it, and started flailing her arms and clawing.

the fight was boring after 5 seconds, because it was much slower and it was two chicks with daddy issues standing in a ring.  when two dudes face each other, even if they're standing there, their stances and intensity alone makes the fight interesting to watch most of the time (unless it's Arlovski, who's just a pain to watch these days).

also, another reason it's a fucking joke, after seeing the clip, most dudes are saying "god, gina's hot", not even bothering to try to discuss the fight.

as someone said, her place is in porno (anal), not in the ring.  leave that to men.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Pecs on August 16, 2009, 10:24:59 AM
i watched very few female mma fights but i actually thought it was one of the better female matches.

We should NOT expect crocop head kick KOs or anderson silva techniques from girls.
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: johnnynoname on August 16, 2009, 10:29:46 AM
the only female fighters with any pure technical talent (imho) are the japanese based ones and roxanne modafarri

the japanese ones will only be big in japan (relatively big that is) as American promoters almost never push japanese talent
and Roxane modafarri looks like a teenage boy
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: spinnis on August 16, 2009, 10:44:40 AM
Women thaiboxing is almost as entertaining as the mens though..
Title: Re: Carano VS Cyborg Video!
Post by: Rinc on August 16, 2009, 10:49:47 AM
rookie mistake by anderson also and he's on another level.  even the best fall asleep at the wheel.  hype and adre may have got to her.



we are the arm QBs.
Badass move!