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Title: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 19, 2009, 05:18:34 PM
...which is a 3 billion dollar shit ass program , and he wants to run our nation's healthcare?

HA HA HA HA HA HA.


http://www.cnbc.com/id/32479838

Is 'Cash for Clunkers' Program A Victim of Its Own Success?
Published: Wednesday, 19 Aug 2009 | 3:44 PM ET
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By: CNBC.com With AP

Is "Cash for Clunkers" becoming a victim of its own success?

As more car buyers take advantage of the program—which offers rebates of $3,500 or $4,500 for trading in older vehicles for new, more fuel-efficient models—the federal government is struggling to reimburse dealers that shoulder the rebates up front.
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The government is so far behind that hundreds of auto dealers in the New York area have withrawn from Cash for Clunkers, citing delays in getting reimbursed.

Earlier in the day, AutoNation CEO Michael J. Jackson told CNBC in a live interview that the government owes his company about $45 million in rebates from the program, but that he still has faith in it.

"The program is succeeding on every level, except for this administrative log jam that we have at the moment, which I am very confident we will get get fixed," Jackson said..

    * Slideshow: Most Popular 'Clunker' Trade-Ins—and Purchases

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, whose department administers the program, said Wednesday that dealers will be repaid for the clunkers deals they have completed.

"I know dealers are frustrated. They're going to get their money," LaHood told reporters.

He said the Obama administration would soon announce how much longer the $3 billion car incentive program will last.

The Greater New York Automobile Dealers Association, which represents dealerships in the New York metro area, said about half its 425 members have left the program because they cannot afford to offer more rebates. They're also worried about getting repaid.

"(The government) needs to move the system forward and they need to start paying these dealers," said Mark Schienberg, the group's president. "This is a cash-dependent business."

Dealers pay the rebates out of pocket, then must wait to be reimbursed by the government. But administrative snags and heavy paperwork have created a backlog of unpaid claims

Schienberg said the group's dealers have been repaid for only about 2 percent of the clunkers deals they've made so far.

Many dealers have said they are worried they won't get repaid at all, while others have waited so long to get reimbursed they don't have the cash to fund any more rebates, Schienberg said.

"The program is a great program in the sense that it's creating a lot of floor traffic that a lot of dealers haven't seen in a long time," he said.

"But it's in the hands of this enormous bureaucracy and regulatory agency," he added. "If they don't get out of their own way, this program is going to be a huge failure."

Auto dealers have made deals worth $1.81 billion under the program, according to government data released Wednesday. That represents 435,102 clunker deals submitted by dealers to the online system the government set up to process rebate requests.

—AP contributed to this report
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 19, 2009, 05:20:32 PM
yeah and it was acceptable to trash your car for a mere 2-5 mile per hour gain on the new car

an epic waste
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: tendonitis on August 19, 2009, 05:22:05 PM
government working as usual
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: whateva on August 19, 2009, 05:25:14 PM
yeah and it was acceptable to trash your car for a mere 2-5 mile per hour gain on the new car

an epic waste

Gallon retard
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 19, 2009, 05:28:10 PM
Polling group's most recent poll for the President Barack Obama:
Polling Group (Reverse Chronologically)    Date    Approval    Disapproval    Other
Rasmussen Reports[2]                          8/18/2009    49%         50%              1%


Bush wasn't this bad 8 months in.
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: The RedMeatKid on August 19, 2009, 05:39:34 PM
I am a car salesman for ten years and I will tell you that Cash for Clunkers is an absolute cluster-fuck.  The dealers are not receiving the rebate money from the government, and the government has illegally attempted to order the dealers to deliver the cars to the customers regardless if the deals have been approved or not.  If these incompetent ivory tower professor types get hold of health care, be afraid.  Be very afraid.
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 19, 2009, 05:42:27 PM
sounds like y'all are wetting your pants? 
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 19, 2009, 05:58:07 PM
Gallon retard

that what i mean lol why so angry asain?
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 19, 2009, 05:59:38 PM
I am a car salesman for ten years and I will tell you that Cash for Clunkers is an absolute cluster-fuck.  The dealers are not receiving the rebate money from the government, and the government has illegally attempted to order the dealers to deliver the cars to the customers regardless if the deals have been approved or not.  If these incompetent ivory tower professor types get hold of health care, be afraid.  Be very afraid.


theyll get the health care and call it co-op. democrats are slick and just rename things and assfuck the country
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: whateva on August 19, 2009, 06:00:30 PM
that what i mean lol why so angry asain?

Asian , retard
















 ;D
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 19, 2009, 06:02:23 PM
Asian , retard
















 ;D

a simple correction would have sufficed  how come you are bitter is because you are short?
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: HTexan on August 19, 2009, 06:03:46 PM
The only thing wrong with this program is all the V8s that are getting smashed. :(
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: tendonitis on August 19, 2009, 06:09:58 PM
a simple correction would have sufficed  how come you are bitter is because you are short?
you'd be angry too if you were a  5-4 slant eye with a face that looks like it was ran over by a truck repeatedly
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 19, 2009, 06:12:04 PM
you'd be angry too if you were a  5-4 slant eye with a face that looks like it was ran over by a truck repeatedly

i would not id be making friends at the shaolin temple learning superior karate and meditation and attaining asian hoes by virtue of karate mastering anyone who gets in my way
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: lax on August 19, 2009, 06:49:01 PM
poor old obammy is in over his head

and most of you drooling goofs here voted for him
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 19, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
The only thing wrong with this program is all the V8s that are getting smashed. :(

i'm trying to figure out why they aren't salvaging the engines at least?
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: physicsgeek on August 19, 2009, 07:40:12 PM
Bush wasn't this bad 8 months in.


Apparently, you were not paying attention.
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: timfogarty on August 19, 2009, 07:45:18 PM
Bush wasn't this bad 8 months in.

(Ron, you need to add .png to the list of allowed file types, in this case would be 28kb vs 160kb)
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 19, 2009, 07:45:54 PM

Apparently, you were not paying attention.

apparently neither are you.

Bush's approval ratings.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gallup_Poll-Approval_Rating-George_W_Bush.png

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Gallup_Poll-Approval_Rating-George_W_Bush.png/800px-Gallup_Poll-Approval_Rating-George_W_Bush.png)
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: physicsgeek on August 19, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
apparently neither are you.

Haha, I wasn't talking about his approval ratings. I was talking about how good of a president he was. Obama's approval rating appears to be dropping more on speculation about things like health care and uncertainties like the economy. I am not American so I doubt you care about my opinion anyways. FYI Canadian health care is excellent :)
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: timfogarty on August 19, 2009, 07:55:53 PM
apparently neither are you.

first, you're only showing the results of one polling firm, one that tends to skew conservative.  below are the results of another organization.

second, many people who disapprove of Obama's performance do so because he hasn't been aggressive or progressive enough.    He's dragging his feet on many issues, trying to be too bipartisan.   Back in 2001, not too many conservatives disapproved of Bush because he wasn't being conservative enough.
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: HTexan on August 19, 2009, 08:37:17 PM
i'm trying to figure out why they aren't salvaging the engines at least?
Because the whole idea is getting rid of the engines and replacement parts. Only car guys care about V8s.  :(
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: RagingBull on August 20, 2009, 12:16:15 AM
FYI Canadian health care is excellent :)

"Canadian Health Officials: Our Universal Health Care Is 'Sick,' Private Insurance Should Be Welcomed"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.html
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: gordiano on August 20, 2009, 12:17:32 AM
(Ron, you need to add .png to the list of allowed file types, in this case would be 28kb vs 160kb)


I agree.....
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Alex23 on August 20, 2009, 12:49:14 AM
Lots of 2D graph being thrown around in this thread. My head is spinning approval or not. I also just got drained of all bodily fluids. She passed out be is still leaking. I allways escape the wet spot.
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: MichaelScottDM on August 20, 2009, 01:47:29 AM
Lots of 2D graph being thrown around in this thread. My head is spinning approval or not. I also just got drained of all bodily fluids. She passed out be is still leaking. I allways escape the wet spot.

The wet spot is the best spot.. Enjoy it. Come 20 Years she won't be moist.  ;D
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on August 20, 2009, 04:04:45 AM
i would not id be making friends at the shaolin temple learning superior karate and meditation and attaining asian hoes by virtue of karate mastering anyone who gets in my way
How would you do that without leaving your apartment?
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 20, 2009, 04:48:54 AM
How would you do that without leaving your apartment?
okami=chinaman genetics?
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: physicsgeek on August 20, 2009, 09:35:10 AM
"Canadian Health Officials: Our Universal Health Care Is 'Sick,' Private Insurance Should Be Welcomed"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.html

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

Hmm, last time it was ranked we beat your private health care system by 7 spots in the WHO rankings. I have never had a problem getting an MRI or seeing a specialist. Waiting times are measured on severity which is realistic.

Maybe you should never ever ever use FOX news. Poorest news coverage on the planet!

Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: physicsgeek on August 20, 2009, 09:39:16 AM
Both health care systems do have much room for improvement! It seems the correct balance of private and public funding just needs to be found.
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: buffdnet on August 20, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
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If these incompetent ivory tower professor types get hold of health care, be afraid.
they don't have to get ahold of anything. they only have to make it a matter of law
then I'll see ya at the clusterfuck known as the veterans administration.
where you to can have colonoscopy's done with dirty instruments.
or have your complete military file hacked and identity stolen. it's a wonderful organization.
sad the guys at war have no clue what they are in for when they return
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He's dragging his feet on many issues, trying to be too bipartisan.
lmao. and your serious (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/laf.gif)
so many sheep.
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 20, 2009, 03:07:14 PM
the cash for clunkers caused a 'mix up' in the cashflow bringing the buisness to cars and not eslewhere 'abnormaly'. thus inturn it caused companies to lose revenue during this time , ever more so pressuring continued job scarcity and loss
Title: Re: So Obama can't even handle cash for clunkers...
Post by: Option D on August 20, 2009, 03:12:10 PM
Polling group's most recent poll for the President Barack Obama:
Polling Group (Reverse Chronologically)    Date    Approval    Disapproval    Other
Rasmussen Reports[2]                          8/18/2009    49%         50%              1%


Bush wasn't this bad 8 months in.

well lets hope he dont mirror bush's success