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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: michael arvilla on September 03, 2009, 05:51:02 AM
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Dear God... Stan Efferding is huge...
I am officially a member of Team Efferding. This dude has confidence and personality and is calling out the two strongest guys in the sport.
JoJ and Ben White... scared?
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Clearly the strongest pro bb.
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its jack london?
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Ya snooze in this sport/someone come along and steal your "nickname!"
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There is only one Rhino....this guy is a pretender.
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(http://www.atlargenutrition.com/images/sponsors/jack1.jpg)
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Our Jack London the real rhino destroys that little bitch.
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Our Jack London the real rhino destroys that little bitch.
Yes Mars, our Jack would have this guy dying from internal bleedings in no time flat.
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I like Stan ;D
and before the gay man enters, let he help him because Im sure hes Bay approved.
SLURP
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DAMN he did that RAAW 850 pounds pretty damn deep DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
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Our Jack London the real rhino destroys that little bitch.
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Our Jack London the real rhino destroys that little bitch.
And I destroyed Jack London and ran him off getbig forever ....hahahaha
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I like Stan ;D
and before the gay man enters, let he help him because Im sure hes Bay approved.
SLURP
And what makes you so sure? I wanna see Rhino vs. Rhino. ;D
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Well, the guy is huge and strong as f*ck...but just one question...
While he have the bigger numbers as the Mr O himself, how many championships and specially, how many O's do this guy have in his house???
Its like knowing that Schumacher likes to drive a Fusca in the streets, and saying im faster and better driver than him because i drive a Bugatti with 18 cilinders...
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I've have no doubt Stan would destroy Johnny or just about any other active IFBB pro in strength events.
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And I destroyed Jack London and ran him off getbig forever ....hahahaha
hahaha...taking credit for "citi", "chase", etc. cant remember which "c" he is connected too. company is hit hard by economy and downsizing. jack got that job to worry about...not getdumb.
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And what makes you so sure? I wanna see Rhino vs. Rhino. ;D
But I was right, wasn't I? ;D
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Well, the guy is huge and strong as f*ck...but just one question...
While he have the bigger numbers as the Mr O himself, how many championships and specially, how many O's do this guy have in his house???
Its like knowing that Schumacher likes to drive a Fusca in the streets, and saying im faster and better driver than him because i drive a Bugatti with 18 cilinders...
How many O's does JoJ have? Or Ben?
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Stan is a very strong human.
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our own the real rhino jack london would destroy stan but is probably to humble to brag about it like stan does.
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joan lunden?
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How many O's does JoJ have? Or Ben?
jackson has one in his name. that's as close as he'll ever come.
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Its like knowing that Schumacher likes to drive a Fusca in the streets, and saying im faster and better driver than him because i drive a Bugatti with 18 cilinders...
But the point you're debating, is completely different than the one Stan is talking about.
The challenge between Ben White and Johnnie Jackson is "who is the strongest pro BBer in the word today?" Ben White claims he can outlift Johnnie Jackson, and vice versa.
Ronnie Coleman's name is used because everyone believed Ronnie was/is the strongest BBer in his day. Ronnie never stepped up to his own challenge that he issued in "The Unbelievable" - 'I challenge anybody out there to do this 5 weeks out from a contest. ANYBODY.' prior to him deadlifting 805lbs.
How can Ben White and/or Johnnie Jackson officially be called "the strongest IFBB Pro In The World" if not all the potential IFBB'er's are invited?
Stan is an IFBB Pro. So is Ben & Johnny. They all claim to be strong. Why is Stan not in the contest?
From the video posted above, Stan insinuates that he is not allowed to compete, meaning he's followed up on his end to attempt to compete, but is not welcome? I'd like to hear more on this!
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How many O's does JoJ have? Or Ben?
JOJ has three O's he won in 1996, 1997, and 2002. Some say he is the uncrowned Mr. O of 2000 and 2001.
Ben White has had several top 3 finishes at the super bowl of bodybuilding, but has yet to be crowned victorious, so you make a good point Swede.
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our own the real rhino jack london would destroy stan but is probably to humble to brag about it like stan does.
Yes Mars, once our Jack gets his blood pressure medication issue under control, he will be back to his old form.
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Yes Mars, once our Jack gets his blood pressure medication issue under control, he will be back to his old form.
Rumor has it, his bp was measured by Jim Quinn at Gold's Gym at 200/90 the same day Flex Wheeler's bodyfat was 0.0%.
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About squat,There is big diference in the form(not only stance).
Stans way is like powerlifting and doesnt look like bbing squat.
Ronnies bench looks like isolating pecs more than Stans bench which he struggle only for lifting.
Overall, I see ronnie is more powerful than this guy.
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About squat,There is big diference in the form(not only stance).
Stans way is like powerlifting and doesnt look like bbing squat.
Ronnies bench looks like isolating pecs more than Stans bench which he struggle only for lifting.
Overall, I see ronnie is more powerful than this guy.
stan's squat was feet wide apart and was struggling hard
Ronnie seemed to do those reps pretty quickly with his feet closer
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there is 1 sound the rhino will become very familiar with soon.................
POP !
that is all.
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The only reason Stan is not allowed to do this contest is that he is not a Muscletech sponsored athlete. He would crush those two in any of the three lifts.
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Stan trained as a powerlifter for some years and now is in the bB circle. I think it is a little arrogant to start calling people out claiming to be stronger, when the goals, diet, training etc of BB and powerlifting are entirely different.
Without question looking at this video Ronnie Coleman is still the strongest ever. Ronnie squats alone (a sign of confidence in his strength adn form) while Stan has about six people helping him, Ronnie deadlifted 805 just a few weeks before the Olympia (meaning he was on a calorie restricted diet and would therefore not be as strong), Ronnie also has a better bench hand position that shows more brute strength than Stan who uses a powerlifters hand stance and a powerlifters squat stance, both of which are designed to minimize a competitors range of motion. If Stan had to do a foot stance like Ronnie he would never have been able to squat that weight and if asked to deadlift with the same stance as Ronnie a few weeks before a BB contest he would say NO WAY!. So it is obvious who the REAL STRONGEST BODYBUILDER IS.
And remember Ronnie is making a COMEBACK!!!!
So while a little rivalry can be fun...I think this calling people out of people when the criteria is not uniform is more than UNFAIR...
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Stan trained as a powerlifter for some years and now is in the bB circle. I think it is a little arrogant to start calling people out claiming to be stronger, when the goals, diet, training etc of BB and powerlifting are entirely different.
Without question looking at this video Ronnie Coleman is still the strongest ever. Ronnie squats alone (a sign of confidence in his strength adn form) while Stan has about six people helping him, Ronnie deadlifted 805 just a few weeks before the Olympia (meaning he was on a calorie restricted diet and would therefore not be as strong), Ronnie also has a better bench hand position that shows more brute strength than Stan who uses a powerlifters hand stance and a powerlifters squat stance, both of which are designed to minimize a competitors range of motion. If Stan had to do a foot stance like Ronnie he would never have been able to squat that weight and if asked to deadlift with the same stance as Ronnie a few weeks before a BB contest he would say NO WAY!. So it is obvious who the REAL STRONGEST BODYBUILDER IS.
And remember Ronnie is making a COMEBACK!!!!
So while a little rivalry can be fun...I think this calling people out of people when the criteria is not uniform is more than UNFAIR...
Dont forget, Ronnie was wearing a squat suit when he did his 800 squat. He also used straps on the deadlift.
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Samson123, while you make excellent points, what would you say should the question be posed as...
Stan, Johnnie and Ben have all had those training techniques and such available to them. Ronnie could just as easily widen his squat stance, Stan choose to have less people around him, and Ben could use a PL'er grip to bench with as well.
On an even playing field where many of the factors are minimized, do you still think it's unfair that Stan is calling these guys out?
P.S. Ronnie started as a powerlifter too. Johnnie Jackson does powerlifter meets, and I think Ben White has done a few PL'ing meets as well.
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Stan trained as a powerlifter for some years and now is in the bB circle. I think it is a little arrogant to start calling people out claiming to be stronger, when the goals, diet, training etc of BB and powerlifting are entirely different.
Without question looking at this video Ronnie Coleman is still the strongest ever. Ronnie squats alone (a sign of confidence in his strength adn form) while Stan has about six people helping him, Ronnie deadlifted 805 just a few weeks before the Olympia (meaning he was on a calorie restricted diet and would therefore not be as strong), Ronnie also has a better bench hand position that shows more brute strength than Stan who uses a powerlifters hand stance and a powerlifters squat stance, both of which are designed to minimize a competitors range of motion. If Stan had to do a foot stance like Ronnie he would never have been able to squat that weight and if asked to deadlift with the same stance as Ronnie a few weeks before a BB contest he would say NO WAY!. So it is obvious who the REAL STRONGEST BODYBUILDER IS.
And remember Ronnie is making a COMEBACK!!!!
So while a little rivalry can be fun...I think this calling people out of people when the criteria is not uniform is more than UNFAIR...
100% agree and how many Mr Olympias has this guy won?
oh yeah... NONE
>:(
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Super strong
but hes comparing lifts to ronnie coleman WORKOUT lifts....
not trying to max lifts.... 800lb sdquats aside..
he is a competing powerlifter.... ronnie at that time not a competing powerlifter...doing monster weiight at sub 10% bf...plus ronnie is all round dtrong not 3 lift strong front squats 585.. rows with 495 after deads with 800..
i think he should have left ronnie out of his call out video
but i do think he can smoke johnnie lifting wise
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He's a very strong and ugly powerbuilder.
Too much powerlifting screws a good psysique.
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About squat,There is big diference in the form(not only stance).
Stans way is like powerlifting and doesnt look like bbing squat.
Ronnies bench looks like isolating pecs more than Stans bench which he struggle only for lifting.
Overall, I see ronnie is more powerful than this guy.
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YoungBlood said link=topic=296445.msg4231601#msg4231601 date=1252008672]
Samson123, while you make excellent points, what would you say should the question be posed as...
THank you
Stan, Johnnie and Ben have all had those training techniques and such available to them. Ronnie could just as easily widen his squat stance, Stan choose to have less people around him, and Ben could use a PL'er grip to bench with as well.
THe only issue that still stand is the form and technique differences can not instantly be adapted...meaning Ronnie can not just all of a sudden widen his stance and squat like a powerlifter without training like that for some time to get used to that new position. I tried a wide stance once with a friend who trains las a powerlifter and I swear just one rep of squats with my legs far apart felt like I had cracked my ass in half. I went back to my regular stance...
On an even playing field where many of the factors are minimized, do you still think it's unfair that Stan is calling these guys out?
In powerlifting in general the competitors do not call one another out. In strongman contest like Worlds Strongest man, they often encourage each other ....EVEN DURING THE COMPETITIONS. Only in BB do they really CALL OUT... I guess if all were the same and Ronnie, JJ, and Ben were all powerlifters I would have less issue with it, but I think Stan feels he has the upper hand in this case and a little cockines is on display.
P.S. Ronnie started as a powerlifter too. Johnnie Jackson does powerlifter meets, and I think Ben White has done a few PL'ing meets as well.
Well I know Ronnie was a football player for a while and has some PL experience, but he did not continue it...nonetheless he is still a formidable force of strenght. Johnnie i know does PL...I have never seen any of his competitions but the experience works in his favor. Ben I saw in a bench video was AWESOME...he was moving either five or six plates like it was one plate...this guy is a force to reckon with.
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Lots of nonsense negroid music in that clip.
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This guy better watch his back or the real "RHINO" will go sleep with his wife...
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he besmurges the good name of the real rhino Jack London.
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Calling out Ronnie was a bit silly.
Ron is right there with this guy strength wise, but as BBer's Stan isn't even on the same planet as Big Ron, never mind the same league.
Seems like a real cool guy though.
Let's not forget that Stan is a 6 foot something, big boned ox as well. he should be stronger than these guys
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Pretty impressive. STRONG MOTHA...no doubt.
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branch is much stronger and doesnt brag about it like stan does.
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This Stan Rhino impersonator walks like a fucking jack ass...Even King Kamali with his severe ILS disapproves of his walk...
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Super strong
but hes comparing lifts to ronnie coleman WORKOUT lifts....
not trying to max lifts.... 800lb sdquats aside..
he is a competing powerlifter.... ronnie at that time not a competing powerlifter...doing monster weiight at sub 10% bf...plus ronnie is all round dtrong not 3 lift strong front squats 585.. rows with 495 after deads with 800..
i think he should have left ronnie out of his call out video
but i do think he can smoke johnnie lifting wise
Agree, I've seen Ronnie train numerous times. He is VERY STRONG. People are forgetting Ronnie does not train powerlifting style. He trains bbing lifting wise. He might have when he was younger, but for the most part he does not max out on his lifts, mostly doing reps as seen in his vids. Ronnie at 5 weeks out or even 2 weeks out he still lifts ridiculous weights. The only bber that can probably take Ronnie on bench is probably Levrone. Not Branch, Johnnie, Cormier, etc... I can only imagine if he dedicated full time to powerlifting.
Fact is like others have said comparing Ronnie is unfair, IMO Ronnie would wipe the floor with this guy strength, and physique. Now Johnnie and Ben, I am sure he's stronger.
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Calling out Ronnie was a bit silly.
Ron is right there with this guy strength wise, but as BBer's Stan isn't even on the same planet as Big Ron, never mind the same league.
Seems like a real cool guy though.
Let's not forget that Stan is a 6 foot something, big boned ox as well. he should be stronger than these guys
It is, but imagine if Ronnie took it seriously and decide to instead of walking around like a huge pudding pop wit big arms, he he got back into shape put to bed any strength doubts...As if his Unbelieveable vid didn't do that already.
But it shows that Stan actually has something to prove and has benchmarked certain bbers, like Lexus has done with Merc and BMW.
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It is, but imagine if Ronnie took it seriously and decide to instead of walking around like a huge pudding pop wit big arms, he he got back into shape put to bed any strength doubts...As if his Unbelieveable vid didn't do that already.
But it shows that Stan actually has something to prove and has benchmarked certain bbers, like Lexus has done with Merc and BMW.
Yet BMW and MB should benchmark Lexus on reliability, and after how many years they still haven't. They have gotten better, but still cannot compare.
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these guys are named after cars?
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these guys are named after cars?
More like a Kia, or Ford Pinto.
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Ronnie squats alone (a sign of confidence in his strength adn form) while Stan has about six people helping him, Ronnie deadlifted 805 just a few weeks before the Olympia (meaning he was on a calorie restricted diet and would therefore not be as strong), Ronnie also has a better bench hand position that shows more brute strength than Stan who uses a powerlifters hand stance and a powerlifters squat stance, both of which are designed to minimize a competitors range of motion. If Stan had to do a foot stance like Ronnie he would never have been able to squat that weight and if asked to deadlift with the same stance as Ronnie a few weeks before a BB contest he would say NO WAY!. So it is obvious who the REAL STRONGEST BODYBUILDER IS.
You are talking about powerlifters trying to minimize the range of motion.......Look at the range of motion when Ronnie is benching. I think Kevin was stronger on bench than Ronnie. Also Stan did 210 dumbells for 9 on the incline as well.
I think Stan is stronger than Ronnie on bench and squats. Ronnie is stronger in deadlifts -805 *2 Raw with straps is more impressive than 825 suited.
If they all competed under the same rules:
Bench - Ben
Squat - Stan
Deadlift - Ronnie
Strongest BB with Biggest 3 lift total - Stan
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stan is a powerlifting you are comparing ronnies WORKOUT lifts to a guy who is as he said the stongest powerlifter in america
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he doesnt even look eremotley like a bber ronnie was doing his lifts while he was MR o.. he was working out this is is trying to MAX out he is a plifter..
all round coleman kills him..
imagine if coleman worked out just to max out... no contest...
also stans incline presses not as impressive as ronnies he wasnt coming all the way down
Notice alo coleman never went about saying he was the strongest bber...
thiss guy has just used a retired Mro workout.. and i stress WORKOUT weights to his lifts to....
no contest .
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Coleman is hands down the all around strongest bodybuilder ever. Stan is extremely strong but nowhere is he in ronnies league. The 585 front squat for reps that Ronnie did was fucking incredible, and as previously mentined he did it in better condition than some pro's are on contest day. The two squat stances are extremely different which explains why ronnie's quads dwarf stan's. Also Ronnie's form when incline pressing the 200's is much better than Stan's with the 210's. Don't get me wrong Stan's strength is amazing but he should have never put himself in the same league as Ronnie.
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stan is a powerlifting you are comparing ronnies WORKOUT lifts to a guy who is as he said the stongest powerlifter in america
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he doesnt even look eremotley like a bber ronnie was doing his lifts while he was MR o.. he was working out this is is trying to MAX out he is a plifter..
all round coleman kills him..
imagine if coleman worked out just to max out... no contest...
also stans incline presses not as impressive as ronnies he wasnt coming all the way down
Notice alo coleman never went about saying he was the strongest bber...
thiss guy has just used a retired Mro workout.. and i stress WORKOUT weights to his lifts to....
no contest .
he is still a bodybuilder...
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Mars supporting THE REAL RHINO, not this pretender.
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thats right, we dont let stan besmear the image of the real rhino.
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Our Jack not only was a top flight bodybuilder, but he held down a job for several years.....all while having a BP that was actually equal to a real rhino.....he is a hero.
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Ronnie was a good deadlifter. That's it...
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/jacklondon/jacklondon15.JPG)
Boom! All that and he still has the health look too...