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Title: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2009, 08:36:58 AM
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Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: Kazan on September 03, 2009, 08:41:32 AM
I bet they would as long as the government returned the money they took out of their checks in taxes their whole lives.
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2009, 08:42:26 AM
I bet they would as long as the government returned the money they took out of their checks in taxes their whole lives.

People over 65 who haven't worked a day in their lives - still get free health care.
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: BM OUT on September 03, 2009, 08:43:17 AM
The seniors realise that if Obama care passes its THEY who get the short end of the stick.Obama talks about saving money.How will he do it?The people who get sick are the elderly.They see the writing on the wall.They know they will be denied care.If you look at the people in the administration,its obvious what they have planned for the elderly.Obama has even sai that perhaps giving a pain pill is better then an operation that could extend the life for only a couple of years.

Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: tonymctones on September 03, 2009, 08:47:21 AM
People over 65 who haven't worked a day in their lives - still get free health care.
and what % is that?
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: Kazan on September 03, 2009, 08:51:19 AM
People over 65 who haven't worked a day in their lives - still get free health care.

Maybe it's free to that small percentage that never worked, but I can see it taken out of check every week. And just for the record no I don't agree with this government run bullshit, but once the government implements something it's never going away.
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
and what % is that?

if it's greater than 0%, it's socialism.  You okay with that?
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: tonymctones on September 03, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
if it's greater than 0%, it's socialism.  You okay with that?
LOL so you want to jusitify that small ass % as a reason to give health care free to the entire country?

perhaps we should all get food stamps too i mean we could all use lower food prices right?  ::)
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2009, 08:57:44 AM
LOL so you want to jusitify that small ass % as a reason to give health care free to the entire country?

perhaps we should all get food stamps too i mean we could all use lower food prices right?  ::)

I am against socialism.  Lose the free health care for EVERYONE - including over 65.

You seem to be okay with "just a little bit" of it.  Hey, that's cool.

Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: tonymctones on September 03, 2009, 09:00:03 AM
I am against socialism.  Lose the free health care for EVERYONE - including over 65.

You seem to be okay with "just a little bit" of it.  Hey, that's cool.
shit that sounds good to me if you didnt pay in fuck off, no social programs either, no help to illegals either

sounds good to me sign me up
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2009, 09:05:40 AM
shit that sounds good to me if you didnt pay in fuck off, no social programs either, no help to illegals either

sounds good to me sign me up

Agreed.

Of course, a lot of seniors will be dying on the streets.  They'll blame obama for taking away the healthcare they "deserve". 
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: tonymctones on September 03, 2009, 09:06:55 AM
Agreed.

Of course, a lot of seniors will be dying on the streets.  They'll blame obama for taking away the healthcare they "deserve". 
hey if they didnt pay in they dont deserve anything

same with the other shits the only difference is the younger uninsured have many more options out there for them then the seniors.
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: FarRightLooney on September 03, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
This distorts what is reality. Currently, when an individual turns 65, Medicare rules prohibit private insurance paying for care that is covered under Medicare parts A & B, regardless of whether or not the individual chooses to sign up for Medicare. Don't believe it, call Medicare. I found it to be unbelievable as well when I heard it from my insurance company. Medicare confirmed it. So, to keep full coverage I have to keep my private insurance policy (of course no discount in rate) and sign up for Medicare and pay an additional premium for Medicare Part B.
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: Mons Venus on September 03, 2009, 11:02:55 AM
if it's greater than 0%, it's socialism.  You okay with that?

240 pwning scummbagggg Repugs! ;D
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: Kazan on September 03, 2009, 11:15:09 AM
240 pwning scummbagggg Repugs! ;D

Whatever ::)

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Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 03, 2009, 11:21:28 AM
240 pwning scummbagggg Repugs! ;D

Old people had $$$ taken out of their pay all those years.  Give them them their money back if you want them to sign this. 
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Old people had $$$ taken out of their pay all those years.  Give them them their money back if you want them to sign this. 

not all of them.

Are you okay with kicking out those who didn't pay?  yes or no?
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: Fury on September 03, 2009, 11:53:50 AM
not all of them.

Are you okay with kicking out those who didn't pay?  yes or no?

Why don't you post some numbers. How many people have never worked a day in their lives and are no receiving those benefits? Let's see some facts, please.
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: James on September 03, 2009, 04:42:06 PM
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People over 65 who haven't worked a day in their lives - still get free health care.

here we go again..

240,  people have to pay into medicare for at least 10 years, in order to get medicare.

Many people who don't qualify are charged for it., some as much as $ 700 a month for medicare A & B

People over the age of 65, who have not earned it, have to be under poverty level and own less than 25,000 in total asserts to qualify for it.

You want to make cuts in medicare, in order to give Free health care to Illegals then give the seniors some of their money back.



Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2009, 04:46:05 PM
You want to make cuts in medicare, in order to give Free health care to Illegals then give the seniors some  their money back.

Actually I'm anti-universal healthcare.   I think nobody should have it.  I think health care should be piecemeal like getting your car fixed.  if you have the money, you get fixed.  if you don't,

Competition would keep the prices down.  The fact we have giant companies means they all run up the price.

If you don't have money, when you get sick, you get all the morphine you can eat, govt provided! :)
Title: Re: What % of Anti-helathcare reform seniors will sign this?
Post by: Benny B on September 03, 2009, 07:30:33 PM
As one of our highly intelligent right-wing town hall senior citizens shouted:
"Tell the government to keep its hands off my medicare!"
 ::) ;D

If you gave seniors the option of getting their money back that they paid into medicare during their working years in exchange for having to buy health insurance from the private sector, no one would follow through with that and you right wing loonies know it. They would be paying out the ass so much for their high blood pressure and cholesterol medication and doctors visits that they'd go through that money in no time. Being over 65 is not looked upon kindly by the insurance company dominated health care system this country currently has, so premiums would be ridiculously high. So this is just a bullshit red herring not even worth seriously discussing. I certainly haven't seen GOP seniors shouting at town halls to give them the money back that they paid into Social Security and Medicare in exchange for dropping out of those programs.  ::)

Bottom line, if all gov't run programs are "evil socialism," a senior should have no problem signing the above petition.