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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Determinator on September 09, 2009, 04:47:55 AM
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Do they bother, or is it just all drugs. I mean, if you are whacking doses of gear, would 5g of creatine, glutamine make any difference? They advertise all of these products, but do they really take them? I could see that they probably take whey etc, as that is an actually source of daily protein intake, but i have my doubts if they take, say, beta alanine, or whatever the latest fad is.
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some get these supps for free from their sponsor
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It's all hard work.
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some get these supps for free from their sponsor
Yes, but do they really take them? Be honest, supplements don't do jack really. Okay, protein is about all that is probably worth buying. 5g of glutamine pre and post training is not going to make one massive. Drugs do that, so I can't see the *pros* and other non *pro* trainers taking crap that won't do jack.
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Yes, but do they really take them? Be honest, supplements don't do jack really. Okay, protein is about all that is probably worth buying. 5g of glutamine pre and post training is not going to make one massive. Drugs do that, so I can't see the *pros* and other non *pro* trainers taking crap that won't do jack.
they already gulp down a lot of other stuff ( :-X :-X :-X :-X yes, that also) so they won't mind drinking anything they are given to drink either for free or getting paid for drinking it. :-X :-X
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Creatine with waxy maize before and after training with insulin is part of european pro's protocol anyway
And no doubt they take protein and glutamine also
Probably vitamin C in high doses too
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They don't have a problem taking illegal drugs, so what's the big deal with creatine and other supps?
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Yes, but do they really take them? Be honest, supplements don't do jack really. Okay, protein is about all that is probably worth buying. 5g of glutamine pre and post training is not going to make one massive. Drugs do that, so I can't see the *pros* and other non *pro* trainers taking crap that won't do jack.
No. It's all carefully crafted by the supplement manufacturers and publications to trick the newb into believing that there is HOPE to look like Johnny Pro Bodybuilder but his missing puzzle piece is that he is not using...
30g of whey upon awakening
Animal Pak after breakfast along with Vitamin C and Garlic extract.
1000mg of l-arginine with 3g of beta alanine.
200mg green tea extract.
Joint support.
Thermo.
Pre-Workout: l-arginine, coral calcium, beta alanine, creatine estersm glutamine, bcaa's, eaa's.
Post-Workout: 5g of creatine, 10g of glutamine, bcaa's, eaa's, 50g of whey isolate, 40g of waxy maize.
Bedtime: Casein protein, ZMA.
When the truth is that's PRO bodybuilders aren't hip or current to the latest and greatest new supplement fads. They know food... lots of real solid food.
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Do they bother, or is it just all drugs. I mean, if you are whacking doses of gear, would 5g of creatine, glutamine make any difference? They advertise all of these products, but do they really take them? I could see that they probably take whey etc, as that is an actually source of daily protein intake, but i have my doubts if they take, say, beta alanine, or whatever the latest fad is.
When a guy has a contract with a supplement company says he takes the whole product line. When he gets dropped from one day to another he suddenly won't take any of the supplements from that company anymore (and will still look the same).
You do the maths.
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When a guy has a contract with a supplement company says he takes the whole product line. When he gets dropped from one day to another he suddenly won't take any of the supplements from that company anymore (and will still look the same).
You do the maths.
Are you saying *insert name of bodybuilder here* does not look like that because he takes *insert name of supplement company here*??
I'm shocked.
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Come on guys, Muscletech supplements really work. They're hyperadvanced: http://www.muscletech.com/products/anabolichalo/index.shtml
Here is an excerpt (you know it has to be good, it's Muscletech!):
The first, Cryogenic Thermomolecular Technology, uses mechanically measured blasts of impossibly low-temperature liquid nitrogen, as cold as -320 degrees Fahrenheit, to thermomolecularly enhance a precise portion of one of the most anabolic compounds on the planet.
The second pharmaceutically inspired technology, called Lyophilization, actually changes the physical state of a proprietary dose of an anti-catabolic complex in ANABOLIC HALO. Lyophilization exploits the micro-molecular process of sublimation which is so advanced, it actually forces molecules within a structure to skip matter states and go directly from a solid to a gas.
The third, cryogenic process, called Anabolic Crystallographic Technology, discharges a 180-minute treatment of liquid nitrogen at -150 degrees Fahrenheit on a critical anabolic compound. The resulting molecular structure is unlike anything ever witnessed in bodybuilding!
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Come on guys, Muscletech supplements really work. They're hyperadvanced: http://www.muscletech.com/products/anabolichalo/index.shtml
Here is an excerpt (you know it has to be good, it's Muscletech!):
The first, Cryogenic Thermomolecular Technology, uses mechanically measured blasts of impossibly low-temperature liquid nitrogen, as cold as -320 degrees Fahrenheit, to thermomolecularly enhance a precise portion of one of the most anabolic compounds on the planet.
The second pharmaceutically inspired technology, called Lyophilization, actually changes the physical state of a proprietary dose of an anti-catabolic complex in ANABOLIC HALO. Lyophilization exploits the micro-molecular process of sublimation which is so advanced, it actually forces molecules within a structure to skip matter states and go directly from a solid to a gas.
The third, cryogenic process, called Anabolic Crystallographic Technology, discharges a 180-minute treatment of liquid nitrogen at -150 degrees Fahrenheit on a critical anabolic compound. The resulting molecular structure is unlike anything ever witnessed in bodybuilding!
LOL!
How did you know about this? You must have a jug of " Anabolic Halo ".
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Come on guys, Muscletech supplements really work. They're hyperadvanced: http://www.muscletech.com/products/anabolichalo/index.shtml
Here is an excerpt (you know it has to be good, it's Muscletech!):
The first, Cryogenic Thermomolecular Technology, uses mechanically measured blasts of impossibly low-temperature liquid nitrogen, as cold as -320 degrees Fahrenheit, to thermomolecularly enhance a precise portion of one of the most anabolic compounds on the planet.
The second pharmaceutically inspired technology, called Lyophilization, actually changes the physical state of a proprietary dose of an anti-catabolic complex in ANABOLIC HALO. Lyophilization exploits the micro-molecular process of sublimation which is so advanced, it actually forces molecules within a structure to skip matter states and go directly from a solid to a gas.
The third, cryogenic process, called Anabolic Crystallographic Technology, discharges a 180-minute treatment of liquid nitrogen at -150 degrees Fahrenheit on a critical anabolic compound. The resulting molecular structure is unlike anything ever witnessed in bodybuilding!
(https://www.supermass.com/webroot/Store/Custom/Image/Anator-P70.jpg)
Damn it, you're right! There's an old guy in a lab coat, they must be for real.
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(https://www.supermass.com/webroot/Store/Custom/Image/Anator-P70.jpg)
Damn it, you're right! There's an old guy in a lab coat, they must be for real.
hahahahaha, sometimes I wonder how these guys can look so serious and don't bust out laughing themselves when they shoot ads like that. ;D
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they might take some protein powder. The rest is all............
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(https://www.supermass.com/webroot/Store/Custom/Image/Anator-P70.jpg)
Damn it, you're right! There's an old guy in a lab coat, they must be for real.
yeah... i like the filled up test tubes and conical flask on the table....
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hahahahaha, sometimes I wonder how these guys can look so serious and don't bust out laughing themselves when they shoot ads like that. ;D
Haha - exactly.
The only supplements worth taking IMO is a good whey protein powder and maybe the odd MRP if you're pressed for time at work and need a quick fix. The rest of it is all bullshit. Food is what makes you big.
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yeah... i like the filled up test tubes and conical flask on the table....
olive oil and vinegar. ;D
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the only thing that i find funny is the ads,anator is getting me to top olympia shape,then that bombs,so next yr its anabolic halo is taking my build to the next level huh???your 280 guestposing jay anabolic halo is just expensive urine in his toilet.
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I mean, if you are whacking doses of gear, would 5g of creatine, glutamine make any difference?
it doesn't make any difference when you're not whacking doses of gear either.
if all these supplements really had any effect on building muscle, then why aren't gyms any more filled with muscular guys than they were 10, 20, 30, or 40 years ago?
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if all these supplements really had any effect on building muscle, then why aren't gyms any more filled with muscular guys than they were 10, 20, 30, or 40 years ago?
I don't look for muscular guys in the gym, sorry
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It's on the website link I gave. But yeah, I have a whole shelf in my pantry stocked with this shit. It makes me big, but it feels funny when I pee... Not sure if that's related to the anabolic halo or the mexican hooker i took home the other night...
LOL!
How did you know about this? You must have a jug of " Anabolic Halo ".
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I don't look for muscular guys in the gym, sorry
New guy bringing it old school. ;D
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In my shop I pretty much only sell supplements I would use myself,such as whey,glutamine,creatine,dextrose,waxy maize,amino acids,l-carnitine,milk thistle,casien and some gainers such as Cytogainer and Up your Mass which I find are handy mega calorie shakes.
The only 'gimmicky' product I sell is Gaspari's Superpump 250 which I use myself and find to be a good product
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yeah... i like the filled up test tubes and conical flask on the table....
that's the colour your piss will become if you take their product.
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Any response to this Chick?
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I know for a fact atleast a dozen pro bodybuilders take
Kre-alklayn,Waxey Maze Starch,Whey Protein Isolate,L-Glutamine, BCAA's,ECA,
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I know for a fact atleast a dozen pro bodybuilders take
Kre-alklayn,Waxey Maze Starch,Whey Protein Isolate,L-Glutamine, BCAA's,ECA,
Hey bro, are protein test results ready yet?
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I know for a fact atleast a dozen pro bodybuilders take
Kre-alklayn,Waxey Maze Starch,Whey Protein Isolate,L-Glutamine, BCAA's,ECA,
And I know for a fact that they would look the same without that shit.
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The only IFBB Pro who I have trained with would rely mostly on food. He did not have a big name supplement sponsor but it seemed like he would only use an occasional pre-workout stimulant drink or sometimes post-workout shake, not a whole lot else.
On the other hand when you look at amateur and natural bodybuilders a lot of them rely heavily on supplements. At the Pro level how your body responds to drugs, genetics, and how far you want to push it are the seperating factors.
Protein, Creatine, and Fish Oil would be beneficial supplements for anyone. A lot of the other products on the market such as NO-Products, Glutamine, PH's, etc. are just money makers for supplement companies.
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In my shop I pretty much only sell supplements I would use myself,such as whey,glutamine,creatine,dextrose,waxy maize,amino acids,l-carnitine,milk thistle,casien and some gainers such as Cytogainer and Up your Mass which I find are handy mega calorie shakes.
The only 'gimmicky' product I sell is Gaspari's Superpump 250 which I use myself and find to be a good product
whey creatine dextrose ..thats all id use of that... also fish oil, multi vitamin, andf maybe some veggie pills. but all that crap isnt gonna make a real differece. fish oil dextrose and whey will, but only as much as any food source with the same would. convenience is key though
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no...
livin the dream 8)
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Any response to this Chick?
I just got off the phone with chick
and he says "it is only gay if you want it to be" and that "drugs are only the finishing touches" and "yes, he did beat Rusty without help from the bb.com which sponsored the show"
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I just got off the phone with chick
and he says "it is only gay if you want it to be" and that "drugs are only the finishing touches" and "yes, he did beat Rusty without help from the bb.com which sponsored the show"
Whats funny about your post, is that your quotes you try and attribute to me, I never said...even your last comment is retarded as BB.com wasnt a sponsor of the show either...
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Any response to this Chick?
Sure....some pro's take a lot of supps, some take none, and most take a few things...
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thanx for deleting all the good post bob :)
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thanx for deleting all the good post bob :)
I havent deleted anything, bro...
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Come on guys, Muscletech supplements really work. They're hyperadvanced: http://www.muscletech.com/products/anabolichalo/index.shtml
Here is an excerpt (you know it has to be good, it's Muscletech!):
The first, Cryogenic Thermomolecular Technology, uses mechanically measured blasts of impossibly low-temperature liquid nitrogen, as cold as -320 degrees Fahrenheit, to thermomolecularly enhance a precise portion of one of the most anabolic compounds on the planet.
The second pharmaceutically inspired technology, called Lyophilization, actually changes the physical state of a proprietary dose of an anti-catabolic complex in ANABOLIC HALO. Lyophilization exploits the micro-molecular process of sublimation which is so advanced, it actually forces molecules within a structure to skip matter states and go directly from a solid to a gas.
The third, cryogenic process, called Anabolic Crystallographic Technology, discharges a 180-minute treatment of liquid nitrogen at -150 degrees Fahrenheit on a critical anabolic compound. The resulting molecular structure is unlike anything ever witnessed in bodybuilding!
GH15 approved.
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I havent deleted anything, bro...
haha delete this lol, my bad, i thought this was the other thread its pretty similar......
team chic 1 : team flex 0
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what supps do u take chick?
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In my shop I pretty much only sell supplements I would use myself,such as whey,glutamine,creatine,dextrose,waxy maize,amino acids,l-carnitine,milk thistle,casien and some gainers such as Cytogainer and Up your Mass which I find are handy mega calorie shakes.
The only 'gimmicky' product I sell is Gaspari's Superpump 250 which I use myself and find to be a good product
Do u get the shits from this product?
I find Size On to be good as well
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It was summed up really well in that book 'Muscle: Confessions of an unlikely bodybuilder' where early on he said the best physiques he saw in gyms weren't built using some weird training system or supplement, it was sheer desperation and whoever was willing to sacrifice the most to get there.
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I know for a fact atleast a dozen pro bodybuilders take
Kre-alklayn,Waxey Maze Starch,Whey Protein Isolate,L-Glutamine, BCAA's,ECA,
Wow! Do you know a good reputable business where i could purchase these products?
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If you're on a gram or two of AAS, 8 IU of GH/day, plus slin, what possible difference is any "supplement" going to make?
I agree, some of them may drink protein shakes if they don't like taking that much protein in food, but that's about it. Evertyhing else is pissing in the wind.
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If you're on a gram or two of AAS, 8 IU of GH/day, plus slin, what possible difference is any "supplement" going to make?
I agree, some of them may drink protein shakes if they don't like taking that much protein in food, but that's about it. Evertyhing else is pissing in the wind.
qft
i would think they would use pre workout supps given they get it for free
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I like all of their products and I really noticed a difference
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I like all of their products and I really noticed a difference
which products are you talking about, Schering? ;D
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which products are you talking about, Schering? ;D
Do they make the good stuff?
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How many cals you eating these days Wavelength?
I'm a bit short on money so I've cut down to 1k per day and I'm getting the epic leans without much muscle loss.
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Do they make the good stuff?
gh15 says it's the best. ;D ;D
seriously, what brand of supps were you talking about?
I usually use a small internet shop who sells his own brand, they are ok.
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gh15 says it's the best. ;D ;D
seriously, what brand of supps were you talking about?
I usually use a small internet shop who sells his own brand, they are ok.
I should switch sponsors then, to be honest that gackig don't do shit ;D
I only take whey from ultimate nutrition.
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On Melvin Anthony's first DVD it shows him dowing 15 pills at one time (now whether they were all supps, is the debate). On Shawn Ray's Final Countdown DVD, it shows his supp chest, and talks about B12, creatine, lecetin, Amino Acids, all these damn pills he takes.
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I should switch sponsors then, to be honest that gackig don't do shit ;D
I only take whey from ultimate nutrition.
tastes good, but too expensive. the brand i have is as good but cheaper. ;) ;D ;D
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On Melvin Anthony's first DVD it shows him dowing 15 pills at one time (now whether they were all supps, is the debate). On Shawn Ray's Final Countdown DVD, it shows his supp chest, and talks about B12, creatine, lecetin, Amino Acids, all these damn pills he takes.
Hello??
It's a DVD, don't you think the sponsor wants him to make a little use of that??
These were probably the only 15 pills he took in his life. (supps, of course)
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How many cals you eating these days Wavelength?
I'm a bit short on money so I've cut down to 1k per day and I'm getting the epic leans without much muscle loss.
That's fine as long as you can keep up strength in the gym and still get enough protein. A lot of people will probably have problems with the strength part on such low cals.
I'm eating around 3000-3500 when I'm bulking, around 2000-2500 when I'm cutting.
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tastes good, but too expensive. the brand i have is as good but cheaper. ;) ;D ;D
But does it also mix as well as UN? I never had a different one that can take just about any ratio of fluid to powder and still doesn't clump up or become a pudding.
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But does it also mix as well as UN? I never had a different one that can take just about any ratio of fluid to powder and still doesn't clump up or become a pudding.
yes, it blends perfectly, better than any other one i had except the US wheys, they are on the same level.
It's really good stuff, and he has a great system of selling neutral protein powder and flavors separatly, so you can either go neutral or add a flavor you like.
The flavors can also be mixed with "Topfen" or other stuff, Topfen with Lemon cheesecake flavor is along the best things i've eaten in my life, lol.
I can send you the URL, if you like, then you can have a look by yourself. ;)
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Ronnie Coleman took lots of pills and look how big he is.
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Ronnie Coleman took lots of pills and look how big he is.
racist post reported.
watch your mouth, buddy.
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yes, it blends perfectly, better than any other one i had except the US wheys, they are on the same level.
It's really good stuff, and he has a great system of selling neutral protein powder and flavors separatly, so you can either go neutral or add a flavor you like.
The flavors can also be mixed with "Topfen" or other stuff, Topfen with Lemon cheesecake flavor is along the best things i've eaten in my life, lol.
I can send you the URL, if you like, then you can have a look by yourself. ;)
Yes please.
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tastes good, but too expensive. the brand i have is as good but cheaper. ;) ;D ;D
Says the guy who makes 900 bucks a day.
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Says the guy who makes 900 bucks a day.
He also buys "organische fruchte" just for the lols..
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Says the guy who makes 900 bucks a day.
Yes, why spend money on it when you can get the same quality cheaper?
That's waste.
Maybe i have worked too much in TPS, i think rather cost efficient. The money i have saved on whey i can spend for other stuff.
You don't agree?
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yes like on some kobe beef ;D
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Hello??
It's a DVD, don't you think the sponsor wants him to make a little use of that??
These were probably the only 15 pills he took in his life. (supps, of course)
for Melvin, it was before he turned pro, and he was expert at downing 15 pills AT ONE TIME, he was used to it.
With Shawn Ray, He is notoriously cheap, and as he said, he rather go get a steak than get protein powder, he said that the supps were "insurance policies"
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yes like on some kobe beef ;D
For example.
I have been to Japan 2-3 times every year for the last 4 years, i rather buy a plane ticket then go out eating in a restaurant in Japan ed for 4 weeks than spending money on whey that i could have cheaper in the same quality.
;)
And don't forget, i have to buy a lot of diapers now and save money for some expensive university for my son. ;D ;D
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In Ronnie's UNBELIEVABLE video when he was under contract with MetRx he was ordered to drink a shake and then talk about it on camera but if you look closely his kitchen was littered with Beverly International products.
I don't consider taking garlic, aspirin, coQ10, vitamin-c supplementing for bodybuilding. Ronnie was just keeping overall health in check.
Supplements designed to make one believe they will get bigger or stronger muscles, well...
I know a guy who hired Chris Aceto recently for his run at the USA's. Placed well. Good bodybuilder. In his plan Chris didn't have one single supplement outlined in his diet. Nothing. It was real solid whole food all the time.
On the other end of the spectrum you have a guy like Justin TROPONIN Harris who is a big believer and advocate of supplementation as he will have lots of different supplements in a diet if one was so inclined to use him.
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In Ronnie's UNBELIEVABLE video when he was under contract with MetRx he was ordered to drink a shake and then talk about it on camera but if you look closely his kitchen was littered with Beverly International products.
I don't consider taking garlic, aspirin, coQ10, vitamin-c supplementing for bodybuilding. Ronnie was just keeping overall health in check.
Supplements designed to make one believe they will get bigger or stronger muscles, well...
I know a guy who hired Chris Aceto recently for his run at the USA's. Placed well. Good bodybuilder. In his plan Chris didn't have one single supplement outlined in his diet. Nothing. It was real solid whole food all the time.
On the other end of the spectrum you have a guy like Justin TROPONIN Harris who is a big believer and advocate of supplementation as he will have lots of different supplements in a diet if one was so inclined to use him.
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FAIR ENOUGH.
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Most of you that actually compete know that you take various supplements, whereas creatine, protein powder, flax oil, and much more. Some products are commodities and some products people swear they work great.
As for the pros, yes, many do take supplements, protein powder, etc - whether or not it is from the brand they represent is a different story. But if someone represents a brand, they usually get some of the products for free (monthly allotment) so of course they tend to use them.
However, for what works with one person may not work with another.
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Most of you that actually compete know that you take various supplements, whereas creatine, protein powder, flax oil, and much more. Some products are commodities and some products people swear they work great.
As for the pros, yes, many do take supplements, protein powder, etc - whether or not it is from the brand they represent is a different story. But if someone represents a brand, they usually get some of the products for free (monthly allotment) so of course they tend to use them.
However, for what works with one person may not work with another.
and what works with you?what do you usually take Ron?
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I know a guy who hired Chris Aceto recently for his run at the USA's. Placed well. Good bodybuilder. In his plan Chris didn't have one single supplement outlined in his diet. Nothing. It was real solid whole food all the time.
Are you saying Chris is just another liar and scammer? :D
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/procardnutrition/procardnutrition.htm
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are you guys telling me that HMB really isn't just like Deca?
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Are you saying Chris is just another liar and scammer? :D
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/procardnutrition/procardnutrition.htm
Not exactly. He's a buisnessman.
He knows as well as all supplement companies know that the newbs, people who don't compete or people who never get past even plcing at a regional show are the ones who will purchase supplements. He also know that when someone is advanced enough they tend to stop bothering with supplements and focus on alchemy and solid whole food.
In other words, he has his market and it isn't guys who are fighting for top spots on the National-Level. Those guys are few and far in between in comparision.
Each and everyday about 1000 new newbies awake and say they want to get into bodybuilding as they march over to a GNC and believe everything they read in FLEX.
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and what works with you?what do you usually take Ron?
fried bananas
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Creatine is the only OTC supplement that does anything (apart from some special "supps" that slip through the system sometimes). Some supps are convenient food replacements, but one can just as well do without them and get everything from normal food.
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Creatine is the only OTC supplement that does anything (apart from some special "supps" that slip through the system sometimes). Some supps are convenient food replacements, but one can just as well do without them and get everything from normal food.
true, but that money spent on "creatine" could have bought more chicken. Good ole' chicken 8)
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true, but that money spent on "creatine" could have bought more chicken. Good ole' chicken 8)
lol, you can get a few months supply of creatine for 15 euros, that lasts two days in chicken.
Creatine is dirtcheap, another reason to take it.
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Creatine is the only OTC supplement that does anything (apart from some special "supps" that slip through the system sometimes). Some supps are convenient food replacements, but one can just as well do without them and get everything from normal food.
Don't you get creatine from meat?
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Creatine is the only OTC supplement that does anything (apart from some special "supps" that slip through the system sometimes). Some supps are convenient food replacements, but one can just as well do without them and get everything from normal food.
creatine does something just as much as supplements like arginine and leucine and beta alanine do.
however, although they are proven to do something, they dont do anything noticeable
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Don't you get creatine from meat?
yeah you find creatine in red meat but you would need to eat a few lbs every day in order to get the amount needed for optimal effects, then again the optimal effects arent really that singnificant.
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creatine does something just as much as supplements like arginine and leucine and beta alanine do.
however, although they are proven to do something, they dont do anything noticeable
That's what I meant. Creatine hasn't done much for me either, but at least there is some evidence that is improves body composition.
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lol, you can get a few months supply of creatine for 15 euros, that lasts two days in chicken.
Creatine is dirtcheap, another reason to take it.
didn't know, never used creatine
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Don't you get creatine from meat?
if you eat enough, yes.
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if you eat enough, yes.
The amount needed to be eaten is supposedly humongous, like several dozen pounds.
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The amount needed to be eaten is supposedly humongous, like several dozen pounds.
depends on how much creatine you think is actually beneficial
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depends on how much creatine you think is actually beneficial
What have the studies found nerdboi?
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What have the studies found nerdboi?
can't remember ;D
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Creatine is the only OTC supplement that does anything (apart from some special "supps" that slip through the system sometimes). Some supps are convenient food replacements, but one can just as well do without them and get everything from normal food.
I agree with this post.
Creatine, the original ma huang ephedra alkaloids and the original 1-Test supps were the only supps that made a real difference in your physique.
I don't know how els to make this more clear. Umm, let me see... Okay,
Look, queerz! Pro Bodybuilders do NOT use nutritional supplements that we see at health food stores and advetised in the magazines. They don't. When they first got into training I am sure they did but once you get to a certain point (national level, upper-national level and beyond) you realize that plain whole solid food is so much more effective so they cease all 'supplements' and just eat whole solid food all the time. No shakes, no N.O. boosters, none of that. Nothing.
I can't make it more clear. Stop debating this. The answer is NO.
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can't remember ;D
Fucking nerdboi = getting dementia too now? >:(
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The amount needed to be eaten is supposedly humongous, like several dozen pounds.
no its just like 3 pounds.
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no its just like 3 pounds.
Sources?
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Fucking nerdboi = getting dementia too now? >:(
I'm old. :'(
But tbombz' number seems about right.
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I'm old. :'(
But tbombz' number seems about right.
You experience brain slowdown compared to your earlier years? When did this start? When you caught your first STD from Yaroni? :'(
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I agree with this post.
Creatine, the original ma huang ephedra alkaloids and the original 1-Test supps were the only supps that made a real difference in your physique.
I don't know how els to make this more clear. Umm, let me see... Okay,
Look, queerz! Pro Bodybuilders do NOT use nutritional supplements that we see at health food stores and advetised in the magazines. They don't. When they first got into training I am sure they did but once you get to a certain point (national level, upper-national level and beyond) you realize that plain whole solid food is so much more effective so they cease all 'supplements' and just eat whole solid food all the time. No shakes, no N.O. boosters, none of that. Nothing.
I can't make it more clear. Stop debating this. The answer is NO.
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Funny thing is, every nutritionist with half a brain would agree.
Unfortunally many of them are part of the "business".
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Funny thing is, every nutritionist with half a brain would agree.
Unfortunally many of them are part of the "business".
Exactly. It's funny... I know a guy who hired RimMe Handjob who, is passionate about B$N products or whatever, but when he showed me his basic 7-day food outline there wasn't a single supplement listed. Not glutamine, no BCAA, no creatine... nothing.
I also know a guy who hired Teh Chad. Teh Chad has some part of NXLabs. When I saw what he was doing for his dry-out week written directly from Teh Chad Himself? Not a single supplement listed. Nothing. It was all food and drugs.
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You experience brain slowdown compared to your earlier years? When did this start?
Must be his strange diet. Not enough carbs to nourish the brain.^^
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Exactly. It's funny... I know a guy who hired RimMe Handjob who, is passionate about B$N products or whatever, but when he showed me his basic 7-day food outline there wasn't a single supplement listed. Not glutamine, no BCAA, no creatine... nothing.
I also know a guy who hired Teh Chad. Teh Chad has some part of NXLabs. When I saw what he was doing for his dry-out week written directly from Teh Chad Himself? Not a single supplement listed. Nothing. It was all food and drugs.
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Well they have to guzzle at least some of the rat poison for the "thonged battle for the plastic trophy" videos ;D
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Must be his strange diet. Not enough carbs to nourish the brain.^^
see that's where I went wrong, I thought booze is carbs ;D
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see that's where I went wrong, I thought booze is carbs ;D
What are your stats right now? Are you bulking again? :)
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What are your stats right now? Are you bulking again? :)
Yeah but taking a different approach. I go up in weight a few pounds and then recomp at about that weight until bodyfat is where I want it to be. Then go up in weight again and so on. I'm about 160lbs now.
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sometimes when i'm sick and can't stomach food i might have a protein shake instead
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I agree with this post.
Creatine, the original ma huang ephedra alkaloids and the original 1-Test supps were the only supps that made a real difference in your physique.
I don't know how els to make this more clear. Umm, let me see... Okay,
Look, queerz! Pro Bodybuilders do NOT use nutritional supplements that we see at health food stores and advetised in the magazines. They don't. When they first got into training I am sure they did but once you get to a certain point (national level, upper-national level and beyond) you realize that plain whole solid food is so much more effective so they cease all 'supplements' and just eat whole solid food all the time. No shakes, no N.O. boosters, none of that. Nothing.
I can't make it more clear. Stop debating this. The answer is NO.
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block what supps do u use?
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Sources?
i cant seem to find a good source at the moment for you but most red meat contains somewhere beteen 2-6 grams of creatine per pound.