Do the pros really take supplements like creatine, etc?

[wavelength]

gh15 says it's the best. 

seriously, what brand of supps were you talking about?

I usually use a small internet shop who sells his own brand, they are ok.

I should switch sponsors then, to be honest that gackig don't do shit



I only take whey from ultimate nutrition.

[Parker]

On Melvin Anthony's first DVD it shows him dowing 15 pills at one time (now whether they were all supps, is the debate). On Shawn Ray's Final Countdown DVD, it shows his supp chest, and talks about B12, creatine, lecetin, Amino Acids, all these damn pills he takes.

[DK II]

I should switch sponsors then, to be honest that gackig don't do shit



I only take whey from ultimate nutrition.

tastes good, but too expensive. the brand i have is as good but cheaper. 

[DK II]

On Melvin Anthony's first DVD it shows him dowing 15 pills at one time (now whether they were all supps, is the debate). On Shawn Ray's Final Countdown DVD, it shows his supp chest, and talks about B12, creatine, lecetin, Amino Acids, all these damn pills he takes.

Hello??

It's a DVD, don't you think the sponsor wants him to make a little use of that??

These were probably the only 15 pills he took in his life. (supps, of course)

[wavelength]

How many cals you eating these days Wavelength?

I'm a bit short on money so I've cut down to 1k per day and I'm getting the epic leans without much muscle loss.

That's fine as long as you can keep up strength in the gym and still get enough protein. A lot of people will probably have problems with the strength part on such low cals.

I'm eating around 3000-3500 when I'm bulking, around 2000-2500 when I'm cutting.

[wavelength]

tastes good, but too expensive. the brand i have is as good but cheaper. 

But does it also mix as well as UN? I never had a different one that can take just about any ratio of fluid to powder and still doesn't clump up or become a pudding.

[DK II]

But does it also mix as well as UN? I never had a different one that can take just about any ratio of fluid to powder and still doesn't clump up or become a pudding.

yes, it blends perfectly, better than any other one i had except the US wheys, they are on the same level.

It's really good stuff, and he has a great system of selling neutral protein powder and flavors separatly, so you can either go neutral or add a flavor you like.

The flavors can also be mixed with "Topfen" or other stuff, Topfen with Lemon cheesecake flavor is along the best things i've eaten in my life, lol.

I can send you the URL, if you like, then you can have a look by yourself. 

[jr]

Ronnie Coleman took lots of pills and look how big he is.

[Pecs]

Ronnie Coleman took lots of pills and look how big he is.

 

[DK II]

Ronnie Coleman took lots of pills and look how big he is.

racist post reported.

watch your mouth, buddy.

[wavelength]

yes, it blends perfectly, better than any other one i had except the US wheys, they are on the same level.

It's really good stuff, and he has a great system of selling neutral protein powder and flavors separatly, so you can either go neutral or add a flavor you like.

The flavors can also be mixed with "Topfen" or other stuff, Topfen with Lemon cheesecake flavor is along the best things i've eaten in my life, lol.

I can send you the URL, if you like, then you can have a look by yourself. 

Yes please.

[affeman]

tastes good, but too expensive. the brand i have is as good but cheaper. 

Says the guy who makes 900 bucks a day.

[Blücher]

Says the guy who makes 900 bucks a day.

He also buys "organische fruchte" just for the lols..

[DK II]

Says the guy who makes 900 bucks a day.

Yes, why spend money on it when you can get the same quality cheaper?

That's waste.

Maybe i have worked too much in TPS, i think rather cost efficient. The money i have saved on whey i can spend for other stuff.

You don't agree?

[wavelength]

yes like on some kobe beef

[Parker]

Hello??

It's a DVD, don't you think the sponsor wants him to make a little use of that??

These were probably the only 15 pills he took in his life. (supps, of course)

for Melvin, it was before he turned pro, and he was expert at downing 15 pills AT ONE TIME, he was used to it.

With Shawn Ray, He is notoriously cheap, and as he said, he rather go get a steak than get protein powder, he said that the supps were "insurance policies"

[DK II]

yes like on some kobe beef

For example.

I have been to Japan 2-3 times every year for the last 4 years, i rather buy a plane ticket then go out eating in a restaurant in Japan ed for 4 weeks than spending money on whey that i could have cheaper in the same quality.

 

And don't forget, i have to buy a lot of diapers now and save money for some expensive university for my son.  

[Blockhead]

 In Ronnie's UNBELIEVABLE video when he was under contract with MetRx he was ordered to drink a shake and then talk about it on camera but if you look closely his kitchen was littered with Beverly International products.


 I don't consider taking garlic, aspirin, coQ10, vitamin-c supplementing for bodybuilding. Ronnie was just keeping overall health in check.

 Supplements designed to make one believe they will get bigger or stronger muscles, well...


 I know a guy who hired Chris Aceto recently for his run at the USA's. Placed well. Good bodybuilder. In his plan Chris didn't have one single supplement outlined in his diet. Nothing. It was real solid whole food all the time.

 On the other end of the spectrum you have a guy like Justin TROPONIN Harris who is a big believer and advocate of supplementation as he will have lots of different supplements in a diet if one was so inclined to use him.



 - Block!

[njflex]

In Ronnie's UNBELIEVABLE video when he was under contract with MetRx he was ordered to drink a shake and then talk about it on camera but if you look closely his kitchen was littered with Beverly International products.


 I don't consider taking garlic, aspirin, coQ10, vitamin-c supplementing for bodybuilding. Ronnie was just keeping overall health in check.

 Supplements designed to make one believe they will get bigger or stronger muscles, well...


 I know a guy who hired Chris Aceto recently for his run at the USA's. Placed well. Good bodybuilder. In his plan Chris didn't have one single supplement outlined in his diet. Nothing. It was real solid whole food all the time.

 On the other end of the spectrum you have a guy like Justin TROPONIN Harris who is a big believer and advocate of supplementation as he will have lots of different supplements in a diet if one was so inclined to use him.



 - Block!

FAIR ENOUGH.

[Ron]

Most of you that actually compete know that you take various supplements, whereas creatine, protein powder, flax oil, and much more.    Some products are commodities and some products people swear they work great.

As for the pros, yes, many do take supplements, protein powder, etc - whether or not it is from the brand they represent is a different story.  But if someone represents a brand, they usually get some of the products for free (monthly allotment) so of course they tend to use them. 

However, for what works with one person may not work with another.

[kreator]

Most of you that actually compete know that you take various supplements, whereas creatine, protein powder, flax oil, and much more.    Some products are commodities and some products people swear they work great.

As for the pros, yes, many do take supplements, protein powder, etc - whether or not it is from the brand they represent is a different story.  But if someone represents a brand, they usually get some of the products for free (monthly allotment) so of course they tend to use them. 

However, for what works with one person may not work with another.

and what works with you?what do you usually take Ron?

[Van_Bilderass]

 I know a guy who hired Chris Aceto recently for his run at the USA's. Placed well. Good bodybuilder. In his plan Chris didn't have one single supplement outlined in his diet. Nothing. It was real solid whole food all the time.

 

Are you saying Chris is just another liar and scammer? 

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/procardnutrition/procardnutrition.htm

[tendonitis]

are you guys telling me that HMB really isn't just like Deca?

[Blockhead]

Are you saying Chris is just another liar and scammer? 

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/procardnutrition/procardnutrition.htm

Not exactly. He's a buisnessman.

 He knows as well as all supplement companies know that the newbs, people who don't compete or people who never get past even plcing at a regional show are the ones who will purchase supplements. He also know that when someone is advanced enough they tend to stop bothering with supplements and focus on alchemy and solid whole food.

 In other words, he has his market and it isn't guys who are fighting for top spots on the National-Level. Those guys are few and far in between in comparision.

 Each and everyday about 1000 new newbies awake and say they want to get into bodybuilding as they march over to a GNC and believe everything they read in FLEX.



 - Block!

[DK II]

and what works with you?what do you usually take Ron?

fried bananas