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FRANK ZANE late 60's to mid seventies was more bulked lean i guess that was the look at the time even in contest shape,to me he was the leader at the time later as redefining contest hardness and shape,but my question is when or what yr? did he change his look and how did he or who advised him for this transformation.btw he was one of and still one of my faves.
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FRANK ZANE late 60's to mid seventies was more bulked lean i guess that was the look at the time even in contest shape,to me he was the leader at the time later as redefining contest hardness and shape,but my question is when or what yr?did he change his look and how did he or who advised him for this transformation.btw he was one of and still one of my faves.
I get his quarterly newsletter/magazine.
He has a story in one with pics where he competed in his second to last or last Olympia at 205 pounds.
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FRANK ZANE late 60's to mid seventies was more bulked lean i guess that was the look at the time even in contest shape,to me he was the leader at the time later as redefining contest hardness and shape,but my question is when or what yr?did he change his look and how did he or who advised him for this transformation.btw he was one of and still one of my faves.
Probably the first show where he came in ripped was at the 1968 IFBB Mr. Universe where he beat Arnold, who outweighed him by over 60 pounds. After that he usually peaked well. He was very lean at the the 74 Olympia, came in smooth at the 75 Olympia (which is why you don't see much of him in Pumping Iron.) In 76, he comes in super shredded but a bit light and got beat by Franco who was at his all time biggest. Then in 77, Zane came in a bit bigger, but not quite as cut as the previous year and wins, 1978 he's more cut than 79 but not as big..still wins. In 1979, he hits his all time peak coming in bigger than before and very ripped and full and beats Mike Mentzer for the overall. I was at all those 3 Olympias (1977-1979). In 80, has the pool accident a few months out and comes in shredded but smaller..loses. In 1982, like Lax says, comes in at close to 200 pounds, looks good, not quite as cut, but loses to Dickerson....(I would have gone with Zane or Samir) In 1983, injures shoulder falling off his bicycle, so is down in size but very ripped. Samir wins. Zane retires. Did I miss anything, Lax?
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Probably the first show where he came in ripped was at the 1968 IFBB Mr. Universe where he beat Arnold, who outweighed him by over 60 pounds. After that he usually peaked well. He was very lean at the the 74 Olympia, came in smooth at the 75 Olympia (which is why you don't see much of him in Pumping Iron.) In 76, he comes in super shredded but a bit light and got beat by Franco who was at his all time biggest. Then in 77, Zane came in a bit bigger, but not quite as cut as the previous year and wins, 1978 he's more cut than 79 but not as big..still wins. In 1979, he hits his all time peak coming in bigger than before and very ripped and full and beats Mike Mentzer for the overall. I was at all those 3 Olympias (1977-1979). In 80, has the pool accident a few months out and comes in shredded but smaller..loses. In 1982, like Lax says, comes in at close to 200 pounds, looks good, not quite as cut, but loses to Dickerson....(I would have gone with Zane or Samir) In 1983, injures shoulder falling off his bicycle, so is down in size but very ripped. Samir wins. Zane retires. Did I miss anything, Lax?
thanks for your perspective,one of if not the best of all time greats
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Probably the first show where he came in ripped was at the 1968 IFBB Mr. Universe where he beat Arnold, who outweighed him by over 60 pounds. After that he usually peaked well. He was very lean at the the 74 Olympia, came in smooth at the 75 Olympia (which is why you don't see much of him in Pumping Iron.) In 76, he comes in super shredded but a bit light and got beat by Franco who was at his all time biggest. Then in 77, Zane came in a bit bigger, but not quite as cut as the previous year and wins, 1978 he's more cut than 79 but not as big..still wins. In 1979, he hits his all time peak coming in bigger than before and very ripped and full and beats Mike Mentzer for the overall. I was at all those 3 Olympias (1977-1979). In 80, has the pool accident a few months out and comes in shredded but smaller..loses. In 1982, like Lax says, comes in at close to 200 pounds, looks good, not quite as cut, but loses to Dickerson....(I would have gone with Zane or Samir) In 1983, injures shoulder falling off his bicycle, so is down in size but very ripped. Samir wins. Zane retires. Did I miss anything, Lax?
No Chem, you are an astute student of history. I did think, however, that at his final Olympia he was over 200...his biggest. I could be wrong.
I agree...never saw how Dickerson won, although he is to be respected. Most don't know that Dickerson's mother was the first black, female lawyer in Alaska.
I laugh how Arnold disdainfully states that "Zane bruised his balls or something..." when addressing the sour grapes at his questionable 80 O win.
In fact, Zane punctured his urethra when sitting on a pool chair which collapsed on him.
He nearly bled to death.
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Actually, it was in 1982, in England where Zane was about 200 pounds..the year Dickerson won. His last contest was in 1983, which is where the Ironman cover pic is from, he weighed closer to 190 in that one . The other pic is from 82 . Looks good in both.
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Thought this thread should have a few more Zane shots. These two are from 1979.
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Here's 1976, 1980 and 1983.
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Before he learned to peak....
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Before he learned to peak....
Thanks Chem.
You are fortunate to have been there for some of those great shows.
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thanx chem,thats where i was going what time period where he went from bulky but lean to totally dried and rock hard,good perspective.
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1983 Frank in arguably his best shape
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The master poser showing fantastic detail 1979? :o :o :o
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Zane in Excellent shape and condition mid-late 1970s
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Top shape 70s style!
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Great pics!!
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anyone have the pic on a thread from G&O board in which its autographed and zane is standing ready to guest pose (I think) in a back hall at a school?
Never saw it before and he looks incredibly shredded....
please post if you have it
thanks!
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No Chem, you are an astute student of history. I did think, however, that at his final Olympia he was over 200...his biggest. I could be wrong.
I agree...never saw how Dickerson won, although he is to be respected. Most don't know that Dickerson's mother was the first black, female lawyer in Alaska.
I laugh how Arnold disdainfully states that "Zane bruised his balls or something..." when addressing the sour grapes at his questionable 80 O win.
In fact, Zane punctured his urethra when sitting on a pool chair which collapsed on him.
He nearly bled to death.
wasn't dickerson one of triplets? i remember how arnold mocked zane about the lawn chair incident.
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some zane shots.
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more zane at various weights and ages.
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more fz
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fz
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Great shots Funk, Zane had a Excellent Proportionate Physique in his prime years in the Late 1970s, IMO when in his best shape he had fewer weak points than those who went head to head with him in the late 1970s, balanced, defined, posing, presentation etc he was very thorough in how he approached BB back then.
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wasn't dickerson one of triplets? i remember how arnold mocked zane about the lawn chair incident.
I think either twins or triplets...yes.
The imperious Arnold was a real jagoff to nearly everyone involved in that show...couldn't beat 'em (legitimately) with his physique, so he ran his sarcastically curled lip.
I love the story chem tells of how arnold kicked him out of a backstage area because chems dad would not invest with him-when prior to this arnold embraced chem. Am I right on this, Chem?
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i'm not here to bash zane...his physique is about as perfect as you can get..but can we assumed he used ''some'' AAS?
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i'm not here to bash zane...his physique is about as perfect as you can get..but can we assumed he used ''some'' AAS?
without question,,,
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yes indeed
he was known to use dbol
deca and winstrol
more or less leading up to the show
offseason he stayed clean
and actually trained less and took in fewer calories
he talks about this in his 77 seminar
google it and you will find it.
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i'm not here to bash zane...his physique is about as perfect as you can get..but can we assumed he used ''some'' AAS?
Some? LOL he was referred to as "the chemist" for a reason. LOL. Some? Are you serious! The guy was juiced as much as anyone of that era.
I don't like Zane. His personality nor his physique. He was a tiny guy. Ever see pictures of him in normal clothes out in public? I mean Chris Dickerson was shorter than Zane and had twice as much muscle. Rick Wayne fucking dwarfs Zane in that pic. And I'm no fan of the dark negroid bodybuilders but they had some amazing competitors back in the day but were robbed a lot due to prejudice. Harold Poole, amazing!
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i'm not here to bash zane...his physique is about as perfect as you can get..but can we assumed he used ''some'' AAS?
I grew up in the gym owned by Mr. Universe competitor Richard Baldwin. Richard spoke to Frank several times a week. No secret about the AAS and ancillaries, Frank was an early proponent of thyroid meds for contest prep. From what I remember, they really DID use less and only 9-12 weeks out from a show. 1 gram a week seems to be the amount spoken of.
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anyone have the pic on a thread from G&O board in which its autographed and zane is standing ready to guest pose (I think) in a back hall at a school?
Never saw it before and he looks incredibly shredded....
please post if you have it
thanks!
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boyer coe once said that zane was a great poser . and knew how to time himself perfectly for contest day . but was not a great bodybuilder . tiny arms flat chest small thighs .. . i tend to agree .
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boyer coe once said that zane was a great poser . and knew how to time himself perfectly for contest day . but was not a great bodybuilder . tiny arms flat chest small thighs .. . i tend to agree .
yes to all except boyer coe had great arms and thicker than zane but horrible ab structure even in contest shape,zanes build was better.
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;D
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Frank zane was pure class.
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yet so many found him too small ..
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yet so many found him too small ..
YEAH,,AND DUMB ,5'9 185 TO 200 LBS GIVE OR TAKE IS BIG ENOUGH FOR SMALL BONED FRAMED BBER.
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i say all this because so many others bodybuilders are too harshly criticised . some are too praised . bodybuilding a strange sport . matter of opinions . of course i was not that great a fan of frank zane myself . not taking anything from him .