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http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/60D37B6EC5FF4711862576320011605B?OpenDocument
Tape shows beating on bus of Belleville West student
By Leah Thorsen
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
09/15/2009
BELLEVILLE — A Belleville West High School student was beaten aboard a bus on the way to school Monday, and a police spokesman said the beating could be racially motivated.
The 17-year-old victim was white and the teen assailants were black. Police released a video of the beating, which shows the victim being punched repeatedly while other students on the bus gather to watch, some cheering. It doesn't appear that the victim did anything to provoke an attack and tried only to defend himself. Police said it all unfolded in a five-minute span.
The victim was trying to find a seat and was told by two students he could not sit next to them, police said. When he did sit down, one teen tried to push him out of his seat then began grabbing the victim's neck and punching him in the face.
The victim eventually returned to his seat, but another student began taunting him a few minutes later. The victim was then struck in the face.
It was unclear what, if anything, the bus driver did to stop the attack. Students intervened to help the victim both times.
"In my estimation, it's racially motivated," said Capt. Don Sax of the Belleville Police Department. He said one reason he had formed this opinion was that many of the students, most of whom were black, yelled their support for the beating.
"There was absolutely no justification for the beating either time," Sax said.
Two teens were taken into custody; authorities will apply for charges today. Both students have been suspended, said Superintendent Greg Moats.
He also said there had been no racial problems at the school and said that he wanted to talk further with police to determine why they believe race could have been a motivator in the fight. He also said the school will do everything possible to make sure students are safe, but he wouldn't elaborate.
Greg Jonsson of the Post-Dispatch contributed to this report.
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Video at the link since it is not you tube. I dont know how to post it.
Shit - this kid's family is going to sue the school for millions.
What a disgrace.
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http://videos.stltoday.com/p/video?id=6172583
Better video of the event at this link.
The usual gang out there will be making the usual excuses for them. I cant imagine the teachers who have to deal with these animals all day in a classroom.
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This one is even worse! Check out this insanity.
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bus drivers have a responsibility to pull over, call 911, and try to help.
just letting things sort themselves out = not cool. Boot the troublemakers off the bus in week 1 of the school year, and you dont have to deal with them again.
When I was a teacher, I could see 2 or 3 kids acting up on day one. Instead of letting them spend months growing balls to do something like outright fight in class, I would toss them out of class on day 1 for next to nothing. If they were disrespectful, they got a referral. if they made anything I could take as a threat at another kid, I got them booted for 45 days. Parents and admin hated me, but I got the a-holes out of class eary and it was a good year.
This was the bus drivers fault. And I don't buy into much of tha race bitching. Kids attack kdis taht are different. Could just as easily be rich/poor or another other division. instead of creating "sides" by making it about race, I prefer to make it about a-holes and non a-holes. Kick out all the a-holes fast, and everyone else has a good year. Skin color doesn't matter.
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240 - if it was two white kids beating a black kid like that would you say the same thing?
Look at the video - five minutes elapses and they go back for more on that poor kid.
Time for those parents to get that kid into BJJ, Krav Maga, or something like that.
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240 - if it was two white kids beating a black kid like that would you say the same thing?
Look at the video - five minutes elapses and they go back for more on that poor kid.
Time for those parents to get that kid into BJJ, Krav Maga, or something like that.
Get off the high race horse. I went to school in a school district where I was one of 5 white kids in the whole damn school. And the other 4 white kids were probably the wildest, craziest most violent MFers in the school lol...
I know you want it to be about race, but it's just about kids being A-holes. Kick the bullies off the bus and put them in ALC for troubled kids (alternative learning) where their teacher will be a cop and their next step is jail. The driver is just as fault here for letting the shit happen.
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Get off the high race horse. I went to school in a school district where I was one of 5 white kids in the whole damn school. And the other 4 white kids were probably the wildest, craziest most violent MFers in the school lol...
I know you want it to be about race, but it's just about kids being A-holes. Kick the bullies off the bus and put them in ALC for troubled kids (alternative learning) where their teacher will be a cop and their next step is jail. The driver is just as fault here for letting the shit happen.
The police in the article said its about race. They prbably have the audio and witnesses who will say what was going on.
As far as you being one of 5, no crap you 5 had to be the craziest of the bunch, tats the only way to be left alone!
Same as in prison and why white dudes get all tatted up before they go in.
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Get off the high race horse. I went to school in a school district where I was one of 5 white kids in the whole damn school. And the other 4 white kids were probably the wildest, craziest most violent MFers in the school lol...
I know you want it to be about race, but it's just about kids being A-holes. Kick the bullies off the bus and put them in ALC for troubled kids (alternative learning) where their teacher will be a cop and their next step is jail. The driver is just as fault here for letting the shit happen.
Will they be charged with a hate crime?If it was the other way around you can be positive they would be and Al Sharpton would be marching and Obama would comment on it.
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eh, if the cop said it was race based, I can accept that. I'm just tired of people whining about race. it's about money in life. Maybe poor whites and poor blacks will hate on each other, but they should be hating on their circumstances and working their way out of it.
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"In my estimation, it's racially motivated," said Capt. Don Sax of the Belleville Police Department. He said one reason he had formed this opinion was that many of the students, most of whom were black, yelled their support for the beating.
"There was absolutely no justification for the beating either time," Sax said.
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Why cant these jackasses just open a book and read for once?
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They should go on Jay Leno show tonight and apologize ;D
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"In my estimation, it's racially motivated," said Capt. Don Sax of the Belleville Police Department. He said one reason he had formed this opinion was that many of the students, most of whom were black, yelled their support for the beating.
Well, that's a weak rationale. Guess what, kids like to see fights. They'd yell "Fight! Fight" or "Kick his ass, Cbazz!" at any school regardless of race.
But hey, the cop knows more than I do....
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Well, that's a weak rationale. Guess what, kids like to see fights. They'd yell "Fight! Fight" or "Kick his ass, Cbazz!" at any school regardless of race.
But hey, the cop knows more than I do....
No,one group yells "a fight a fight a ni###r and a white.If the ni##er dont win then we all jump in".
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No,one group yells "a fight a fight a ni###r and a white.If the ni##er dont win then we all jump in".
You heard that one too? ;D ;D ;D
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You heard that one too? ;D ;D ;D
240 is sick of hearing about race but hasnt commented on Dowds commentary in the NY TIMES where she said Joe Wilson really was saying "you lie BOY".We comment on things that actually happen and 240 is sick of hearing it,the libs make things up and no comment.
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Wait, is this the same Belleville that is in Illinois? Also known as "Bellevagas"? I knew a ton of people from this shithole town when I was in college. What a dump, if this is the same place, than I am not shocked in the least.
I see that the article is from St. Louis, but could it be the same zoning as an East St. Louis? Half in half out?
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There is a simple solution to this.Get a gun,go to the kids house and kill his family in front of him then kill him.
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240 is sick of hearing about race but hasnt commented on Dowds commentary in the NY TIMES where she said Joe Wilson really was saying "you lie BOY".We comment on things that actually happen and 240 is sick of hearing it,the libs make things up and no comment.
of course, you haven't asked me about it, so since you have, i'll respond.
that comment - silly, stupid, etc.
BILLY, you get all pissed because people don't respond - you never asked. ease off the anadrol dog.
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240 - if it was two white kids beating a black kid like that would you say the same thing?
Look at the video - five minutes elapses and they go back for more on that poor kid.
Time for those parents to get that kid into BJJ, Krav Maga, or something like that.
time for the parents to sue the school district in all likely hood
the bus driver has a duty to protect the students on board and by not pulling over he/she neglected that duty.
but other then that ya need to get that kid in some sort of self defense training this shit will likely happen again to him more then likely from the same person/group
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time for the parents to sue the school district in all likely hood
the bus driver has a duty to protect the students on board and by not pulling over he/she neglected that duty.
but other then that ya need to get that kid in some sort of self defense training this shit will likely happen again to him more then likely from the same person/group
Muay Thai or Krav Maga will be in order. BJJ would not have helped that kid in that scenario.
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Muay Thai or Krav Maga will be in order. BJJ would not have helped that kid in that scenario.
just go for straight boxing lessons most ppl dont know how to throw a proper punch to save their lives.
in general though grappling training will serve you much more then striking but its hard to confined spaces but he still could have easily had those kids in arm bars or chokes even a leg lock when he was on the ground and the one kid was standing over him.
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just go for straight boxing lessons most ppl dont know how to throw a proper punch to save their lives.
in general though grappling training will serve you much more then striking but its hard to confined spaces but he still could have easily had those kids in arm bars or chokes even a leg lock when he was on the ground and the one kid was standing over him.
He should of Bernie Goetz'ed those animals.
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He should of Bernie Goetz'ed those animals.
lol i had to look that up
good thing he was found not guilty of all the bull shit
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lol i had to look that up
good thing he was found not guilty of all the bull shit
That was huge in NYC at the time.
I have seen these savages my entire life and am sick of it. Too many are bred like animals, brought up and raised by animals, and become animals as adults.
Bill Cosby was right 10000% and he was shut down for speaking the truth.
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of course, you haven't asked me about it, so since you have, i'll respond.
that comment - silly, stupid, etc.
BILLY, you get all pissed because people don't respond - you never asked. ease off the anadrol dog.
Geeze,if it was an article on Palin,you would have cut and pasted it and had 8 threads on it.
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Geeze,if it was an article on Palin,you would have cut and pasted it and had 8 threads on it.
when asked or interested, i respond.
with things that are obvious crimes, my answer is always the same, no matter th party: Lock their asses up.
when ppl play the race card like asses, they should be shat upon.
any Qs?
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UPDATED, 11:35 a.m. with police captain backtracking on whether attack was racially motivated
BELLEVILLE -- A Belleville police spokesman now says an incident where a white student was beaten by teen black assailants on a bus “may not be racially motivated.”
“It was premature on my part,” said Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax. “It was my personal and emotional comment after only seeing the video briefly.”
Sax said police interviewed the 17-year-old Belleville West High student. However, he said he was unaware of what the student told police.
Some of the students on the bus yesterday during the incident cheered the beating, the video shows.
Sax said a formal statement would be made available later today.
“After having reviewed the video, it doesn't strike me nearly as racially motivated,” Sax said.
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UPDATED, 11:35 a.m. with police captain backtracking on whether attack was racially motivated
Either way it was motivated by utter stupidity of our "future leaders".
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bus driver should be fired kids should be expelled from school and charged with assault.
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Wow, wonder who put political pressure on the captain.
Have 1 timid white kid looking for a seat in a crowded bus surrounded by several black thugs who beat on this kid several times....for trying to find a seat? Not only is this appauling, but it is extremely likely that those kids beat him up because he was white. A group thug mentality. What is the other motivation? We stood up to this shit when redneck whites did it to blacks and must do the same here. Its a damn hate crime and those kids involved should pay. The more appropriate responce is from the black girl more towards the front...she seemed to be stuned/appauled while others cheered and contributed.
Busdriver should have called the cops immediately and pulled over.
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Wow, wonder who put political pressure on the captain.
Have 1 timid white kid looking for a seat in a crowded bus surrounded by several black thugs who beat on this kid several times....for trying to find a seat? Not only is this appauling, but it is extremely likely that those kids beat him up because he was white. A group thug mentality. What is the other motivation? We stood up to this shit when redneck whites did it to blacks and must do the same here. Its a damn hate crime and those kids involved should pay. The more appropriate responce is from the black girl more towards the front...she seemed to be stuned/appauled while others cheered and contributed.
Busdriver should have called the cops immediately and pulled over.
That kids' parents should sue. They will get major $$$ out of this for the actions of the driver not pulling over the first time.
The second time was just too much.
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when asked or interested, i respond.
with things that are obvious crimes, my answer is always the same, no matter th party: Lock their asses up.
when ppl play the race card like asses, they should be shat upon.
any Qs?
I dont remember you shatting upon obama when he played the race card or rev wright or van jones but ill expect you to on the next one b/c you know there will be a next one ;)
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UPDATED, 11:35 a.m. with police captain backtracking on whether attack was racially motivated
BELLEVILLE -- A Belleville police spokesman now says an incident where a white student was beaten by teen black assailants on a bus “may not be racially motivated.”
“It was premature on my part,” said Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax. “It was my personal and emotional comment after only seeing the video briefly.”
Sax said police interviewed the 17-year-old Belleville West High student. However, he said he was unaware of what the student told police.
Some of the students on the bus yesterday during the incident cheered the beating, the video shows.
Sax said a formal statement would be made available later today.
“After having reviewed the video, it doesn't strike me nearly as racially motivated,” Sax said.
Yes,I agree,a black kid beats a white kid up with all the blacks cheeering him on COULD NOT possibly be racial.No way!!!!In fact,its obvious this white kid egged on those poor black kids and got what he deserved as EVERYONE knows blacks cant possibly hate or be racist.
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I dont remember you shatting upon obama when he played the race card or rev wright or van jones but ill expect you to on the next one b/c you know there will be a next one ;)
will you seriously log off for a week if I find a post where i did shit on obama for it? sheesh
Personally, I think drudge should take the "WHITE" headline off its headline, as the police chief has said he has zero evidence it was about race. The headline certainly drums up racial emotion -their goal, I'm sure.
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will you seriously log off for a week if I find a post where i did shit on obama for it? sheesh
Personally, I think drudge should take the "WHITE" headline off its headline, as the police chief has said he has zero evidence it was about race. The headline certainly drums up racial emotion -their goal, I'm sure.
lol me log off? dude you spend more time on this board then the mods do!!!!!!!! ::)
ill log off for a day if you find one of you condemning obama for playing the race card... ;D that good enough