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Bahaha.
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we're only 9 months into the Obama administration. It would be premature to judge his presidency now.
We know that the DOW is up quite a bit since he took office. We know that we haven't been attacked on our soil in nearly 10 months, a feat that neither Clinton nor bush were able to accomplish. We know Obama is doing a lot of things - popular and unpopular - to try to change healthcare.
it's really too early to tell, dude.
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HAHAHA......just wait until 2012, that magic negro will lose 45 states
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we're only 9 months into the Obama administration. It would be premature to judge his presidency now.
We know that the DOW is up quite a bit since he took office. We know that we haven't been attacked on our soil in nearly 10 months, a feat that neither Clinton nor bush were able to accomplish. We know Obama is doing a lot of things - popular and unpopular - to try to change healthcare.
it's really too early to tell, dude.
just wondering
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HAHAHA......just wait until 2012, that magic negro will lose 45 states
cracks are already appearing in the Obama edifice
There was a show on last nite on which blcaks were being interviewed and they were literally saying they voted for O bc he is black
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cracks are already appearing in the Obama edifice
There was a show on last nite on which blcaks were being interviewed and they were literally saying they voted for O bc he is black
A lot of people are seriously pissed off, reminds me a lot of 94 when the Repubs won EVERYTHING.
2010 and 2012 could be big years for the Repubs if the Democrats don't get their shit together fast.
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Interestingly, Obama has made some MAJOR changes that many people disagree with, and we're in the midst of a serious recession.
And his popularity number (by gallup, the most reliable indicator for the last 4 decades) still have him at 53 to 55%. So he'd still win the election today.
Common sense (and history!) says a president will do all the controversial and unpopular stuff early in his presidency, then go moderate later in his term to get re-elected. Once obama starts doing popular stuff, such declaring a win in afghanistan, killing bin laden, or fixing unemployment, that 53% approval will suddenly be 60 or 70% again.
And don't forget the repubs (historically) go far-right at times like these. They'll run a Palin in 2012 based on her ability to win that repub base, but the moderates aren't going to buy the bible-thumping, "world is only 5000 years old" stuff.
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A lot of people are seriously pissed off, reminds me a lot of 94 when the Repubs won EVERYTHING.
2010 and 2012 could be big years for the Repubs if the Democrats don't get their shit together fast.
Its an experiment gone awry
simple as that
there is nothing really wrong with health care-and I worked in health care for over 20 years on my own
believe me-NOBODY dies in this country from not having insurance-that is a pathetic lie
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A lot of people are seriously pissed off, reminds me a lot of 94 when the Repubs won EVERYTHING.
2010 and 2012 could be big years for the Repubs if the Democrats don't get their shit together fast.
Repubs will win a lot of seats back in 2010. Old people vote in mid-terms, young ppl usually stay home. That tea-party bunch is gonna win some seats for the Repubs.
By 2012, however, if we have any semblance of a recovered economy, and the Dems can claim they kept us safe for 4 years while Bush couldn't read a memo detailing the 911 attacks just 8 months on the job...
Well, if Dems can claim victory on economy AND security, they can't lose.
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NO president will be perfect and all have their naysayers.
What bugs me is how so many attack the guy on personal rather than issue based stuff.
For example, one guy in the gym told me he didn't want "obamacare" but he didn't even know what the "public option " was. wtf?
That is like saying you don't agree with who won a contest when you don't know who else was on stage with the winner.
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conservatives-like to work hard, earn things on their own, direct their own path, would rather have the opportunity to succeed
Libs-like to live off the dole, feel they are owed by the system, want protection from failure
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Interestingly, Obama has made some MAJOR changes that many people disagree with, and we're in the midst of a serious recession.
And his popularity number (by gallup, the most reliable indicator for the last 4 decades) still have him at 53 to 55%. So he'd still win the election today.
Common sense (and history!) says a president will do all the controversial and unpopular stuff early in his presidency, then go moderate later in his term to get re-elected. Once obama starts doing popular stuff, such declaring a win in afghanistan, killing bin laden, or fixing unemployment, that 53% approval will suddenly be 60 or 70% again.
And don't forget the repubs (historically) go far-right at times like these. They'll run a Palin in 2012 based on her ability to win that repub base, but the moderates aren't going to buy the bible-thumping, "world is only 5000 years old" stuff.
didn't Obama promise us that if the stimulus passed unemployement wouldn't go above 8%?
he's been wrong on everything
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didn't Obama promise us that if the stimulus passed unemployement wouldn't go above 8%?
he's been wrong on everything
all I have to say is
'ACORN'
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Obama is a black person. >:(
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Obama is a black person. >:(
half black, but the black half is clearly the one screwing up the country
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That is like saying you don't agree with who won a contest when you don't know who else was on stage with the winner.
You may be onto something here. People seem easily confused about politics. What if we put everything in terms of the olympia stage? 'Economic recovery is like Jay Cutler's contest diet...'
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half black, but the black half is clearly the one screwing up the country
do you think Barak has natural rhythm or can rap if he had to?
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Bahaha.
Stock Markets kicking azz with Obama.
Quit bitching!!!!!
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do you think Barak has natural rhythm or can rap if he had to?
Mike Dusa--you want me to post up the linky? Ok, then shut the fuk up you bitter old angry white guy.
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Stock Markets kicking azz with Obama.
Quit bitching!!!!!
yes
he was most definitely the reason for the uptick ::)
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Mike Dusa--you want me to post up the linky? Ok, then shut the fuk up you bitter old angry white guy.
what link?
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conservatives-like to work hard, earn things on their own, direct their own path, would rather have the opportunity to succeed
Libs-like to live off the dole, feel they are owed by the system, want protection from failure
Hmmm, who got billions and billions in federal welfare....called the TARP baliout.
I didn't see too many poor liberal getting much of that cash.
FYI, I am 100% against welfare or bailouts of any kind.
The modern republican party is NOT conservative unless it involves someones sex life
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my 2 cents about health care....
i NEVER wanna go to the doctors office and have it be like the DMV
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my 2 cents about health care....
i NEVER wanna go to the doctors office and have it be like the DMV
If you ever had to get a major procedure done, the paper work for your HMO is worse than anything the fed GOV could come up with. I just had a colonoscopy and the amount of papwerwork for just the ins was crazy.
Do you honestly think the current HMO for profit system is efficeint?
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what link?
Mikey knows. . . ;)
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didn't Obama promise us that if the stimulus passed unemployement wouldn't go above 8%?
he's been wrong on everything
and most of the stimulus $ has not even been used
so any success cannot really be sttributed to it
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and most of the stimulus $ has not even been used
so any success cannot really be sttributed to it
see how easy it is to play nice Mikey...
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Hmmm, who got billions and billions in federal welfare....called the TARP baliout.
I didn't see too many poor liberal getting much of that cash.
FYI, I am 100% against welfare or bailouts of any kind.
The modern republican party is NOT conservative unless it involves someones sex life
Howard-you are a good guy.
However, you are a teacher. You are in a union. You have/need/ want PROTECTION against failure-your union and pension.
Unions=modern extortion against business and capitalism.
Living off the dole.
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If you ever had to get a major procedure done, the paper work for your HMO is worse than anything the fed GOV could come up with. I just had a colonoscopy and the amount of papwerwork for just the ins was crazy.
Do you honestly think the current HMO for profit system is efficeint?
I do.
I pay for my own, gladly.
Always have. Always will.
I have had major surgeries as well. I filled out NO PAPERWORK.
Even if I had to fill out paerwork, I would if I had to.
People who complain about filling out paperwork to ensure their health do not, I think, put much value on their health.
They'd rather fill out a bucnh of paperwork for a new car loan. Get it?
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Only 9 months....very bad start and it's not getting any better. Think of what next year will bring. I believe the chief Bro is way over his head and going off in every direction at once. Still no firm health care plan, he just lies more and more every day. Pray the the Prez stays well because just think of Biden becoming president. The old white man elite power structure or maybe that's what the dems had in mind all along. Dems offer a token black as the up front man. Control and used from behind the curtain.
This present white house gang is setting up a overwhelming victory for the Repubs next year, with out a doubt. Same thing happen with Clinton first term. And say good bye to any reelection ideas for the president. The Cool-Aid drinkers are working on blind faith or just being stubborn stupid. The middle east and the rest of the world believe the Prez is weak, a joke and lacking in foreign affairs smarts. Look how well the Russians just made out.They will all take advantage of this, one way or another.
Let me ask: Would you buy a used car from the Prez?
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I for one would love for the president to do well, however at the rate he is going we will be lucky not to be attacked or have an axis of coutries that declare war on us. Obama is shrugging off what is going on in south america right now. There are already countries that are getting their ducks in a row against us and those countries have no respect for the very seemingly weak obama.
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we're only 9 months into the Obama administration. It would be premature to judge his presidency now.
We know that the DOW is up quite a bit since he took office. We know that we haven't been attacked on our soil in nearly 10 months, a feat that neither Clinton nor bush were able to accomplish. We know Obama is doing a lot of things - popular and unpopular - to try to change healthcare.
it's really too early to tell, dude.
Bullshit..this is just a sign of more destructive signs to come. Bush managed to keep us safe for 7 1/2 years. Obama has become the laughing stock of the international community and know's protecting this country is not his first priority.
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Bush managed to keep us safe for 7 1/2 years.
Bush was handed critical details on the 911 attacks on Aug 5, 2001.
he, condi, rummy, and everyone else ignored it.
Now, you can rag on obama for anything you'd like. But we haven't been attacked on 100% of his time in office. Anthrax and 9/11 happened on bush's watch.
Hate on obama for his policy, you're more than right on much of it. But "He kept us safe for 7 1/2 years" is like saying "I only crashed while driving drunk with your kids I was babysitting once in four weekes of babysitting them!"
Suddenly, incredibly, Obama has a better record of homeland defense, 10 months in.
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half black, but the black half is clearly the one screwing up the country
QFT
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just a little econ 101 lesson for you geniuses on why the economy's improving "thanks to obama".
REASON WHY IT'S HAPPENING WHY THIS IS GONNA FUCK US IN THE ASS
1. companies recording profits - selling off old (paid for) inventory - inventory not being replenished
2. stock market going up - if a company is worth a dollar, and you give it a billion dollars of tax money, it's worth a billion and 1 - if the stimulus money isn't paid back with interest, we'll have to pay more taxes
3. housing prices going up, new housing improving - stimulus money, lenders doling out loans again - another subprime / loan default bubble forming, will cause another recession soon
4. auto industry improving - cash for clunkers - once again, existing inventory sold off, gm rehires thousands to restock inventory even though the demand isn't there, will cause unemployment and another auto industry bankruptcy
Obama hasn't done shit, production's down, inventory's restocked....he's just forming another bubble that'll shoot a gigantic sperm load all over us once the bailout money's tapped out. the only way to improve an economy is through growth; he's created zero growth, but i guess in accounting terms, stopping further freefall is considered a positive.
And here's the reason Obamacare is shit: no private company can compete with the government who prints money; if a business doesn't create profit by providing great service for a good price, it goes out of business; the government "option" can provide shit service and charge us whatever, whether by invoicing or taxing us (involuntary charges)....the doctors that would be paid by the gov't would quit because the government is cocky enough to set its buying and selling prices on services..so eventually, the gov't option would drive out quality and quantity of service.
the obama healthcare plan never mentions how they plan on paying for it (and please, if you believe he'll pay for it by self-audit and elimination of shitty government programs, you're pretty dense). so the only other option is for the taxpayers to pay for mandatory insurance for themselves and Jerome in the hood only to receive shitty service in return that they most likely don't even need. This of course, would make Barry an outlight liar because he swore he'd never raise taxes on the middle class. Granted, he said he'd raise taxes on the rich, who would simply move their businesses and money offshore and fuck us in the ass even more.
Maybe Obama should quit and go do an album with Kanye.
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Bush was handed critical details on the 911 attacks on Aug 5, 2001.
he, condi, rummy, and everyone else ignored it.
Now, you can rag on obama for anything you'd like. But we haven't been attacked on 100% of his time in office. Anthrax and 9/11 happened on bush's watch.
Hate on obama for his policy, you're more than right on much of it. But "He kept us safe for 7 1/2 years" is like saying "I only crashed while driving drunk with your kids I was babysitting once in four weekes of babysitting them!"
Suddenly, incredibly, Obama has a better record of homeland defense, 10 months in.
Many actions taken by Bush's regime were taken over by Obama (regarding national defense). Now, I hope we get 100 more years of attack free presidency. I don't give a shit what party you're from as long as we don't get attacked. If , god forbid, an attack happens, do you think the Republicans will give Obama as much of a lashing as the Dems did to bush after 9/11. I mean it's been 8 years, and everyone's still bitching about it being Bush's fault, including yourself.
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I for one would love for the president to do well, however at the rate he is going we will be lucky not to be attacked or have an axis of coutries that declare war on us. Obama is shrugging off what is going on in south america right now. There are already countries that are getting their ducks in a row against us and those countries have no respect for the very seemingly weak obama.
I agree in that I always want any pres to do well
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Many actions taken by Bush's regime were taken over by Obama (regarding national defense). Now, I hope we get 100 more years of attack free presidency. I don't give a shit what party you're from as long as we don't get attacked. If , god forbid, an attack happens, do you think the Republicans will give Obama as much of a lashing as the Dems did to bush after 9/11. I mean it's been 8 years, and everyone's still bitching about it being Bush's fault, including yourself.
yeah
these ass-slappers love to say
"Bush Lied"
well, boo hoo hoo
they all lie
especially the 'annointed one'
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It's basically impossible to criticize Obama without being called a racist. ???
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/how_to_find_millions_of_racist.html
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start watching at around 3:15
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start watching at around 3:15
that was lame as hell. as if these multi million dollar earning celebs really gives a shit about poor people
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It's basically impossible to criticize Obama without being called a racist. ???
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/how_to_find_millions_of_racist.html
just leads to plenty more enablement
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that was lame as hell. as if these multi million dollar earning celebs really gives a shit about poor people
Thats beside the point... did you not find anything creepy about this? Celebs pledging to be servants to Obama?
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LMAO!!! that was f*cking GREAT!
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Is it not racist that 95% of blacks voted for Obammy?
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Thats beside the point... did you not find anything creepy about this? Celebs pledging to be servants to Obama?
that's not besides the point to me.
dont you find it hypocritical of these filthy rich people spending shitloads of money on themselves and consumes 100 times more materialistic shit than the average person to say that they are fighting for justice/enviroment or whatever crap they 'pledge'. it's hilarious imo.
i like obama but what was the obama administration thinking with that crap
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Is it not racist that 95% of blacks voted for Obammy?
Most of them could probably not name his stance on a single issue.
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Obama couldn't even place top 3 at a local show
fuck him
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that's not besides the point to me.
dont you find it hypocritical of these filthy rich people spending shitloads of money on themselves and consumes 100 times more materialistic shit than the average person to say that they are fighting for justice/enviroment or whatever crap they 'pledge'. it's hilarious imo.
i like obama but what was the obama administration thinking with that crap
I agree it is all bullshit, but you are still missing the point of the video. Government/elected officials are servants to US...not the other way around. It is a bit 'Hitler-esque' dont you think? Keep your eyes wide open..
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Obama couldn't even place top 3 at a local show
fuck him
That too!!! >:( haha
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I agree it is all bullshit, but you are still missing the point of the video. Government/elected officials are servants to US...not the other way around. It is a bit 'Hitler-esque' dont you think?
the entire 08 campaign had a surreal feel to it, millions of idiots drinking the same Kool Aid
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240, What the hell are you talking about? Were still safe from the policies that Bush put into place and Obama is trying to take away. Geez dude!!
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that's not besides the point to me.
dont you find it hypocritical of these filthy rich people spending shitloads of money on themselves and consumes 100 times more materialistic shit than the average person to say that they are fighting for justice/enviroment or whatever crap they 'pledge'. it's hilarious imo.
Sure some may come off that way but some give much more to charities each year than they spend on themselves or their families etc. You can't tell the totally full story behind someone just by looking at what you see in public.
Also, the making, buying, selling and consumption of "materialistic sh*t" keeps our economy humming.
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I find it hard to believe that Obama's detractors are not at least a small part motivated by the man's race
his supporters too, I suppose . . .
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240, What the hell are you talking about? Were still safe from the policies that Bush put into place and Obama is trying to take away. Geez dude!!
Why did Bush wait til we were attaced to put those policies into place?
ya can't blame clinton. Bush spent 5 weeks on the ranch in august ignoring vital hand-delivered intel from our allies. He didn't get into office, recognize the weakness of the clinton policy, and change it. He KEPT the dem policy in place.
facts are facts tho. Proof is in the pudding. Bush's pudding is 3000 dead that he didn't stop. Obama's pudding is safety so far.
Policy-wise, that's a whole nother issue. Obama's doing a lot of things that are gonna cause long-term dbt issues, i'm not denying that at all. You absoltely cannot say "Bush kept us safer than obama". At this point in his presidency, bush had failed to stop the 911 attacks, it's that simple.
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So don't blame Clinton for having Bin Laden in the palm of his hand more than 10 times and letting him go? Riiiiight!
As for Bush, they get threats everyday (same as Obama) which one do take more seriously than another? But after 9/11 they were all taken seriously and that precisly why we were kept safe for the last 7 1/2 years. Obama is trying to take us back to a pre 9/11 mentality that left us open in the first place. Sorry but diplomacy does't work as Obama has been proving!
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So don't blame Clinton for having Bin Laden in the palm of his hand more than 10 times and letting him go? Riiiiight!
As for Bush, they get threats everyday (same as Obama) which one do take more seriously than another? But after 9/11 they were all taken seriously and that precisly why we were kept safe for the last 7 1/2 years. Obama is trying to take us back to a pre 9/11 mentality that left us open in the first place. Sorry but diplomacy does't work as Obama has been proving!
Clinton was very soft on terror. So was Bush, until we got attacked.
I don't understand "Obama is soft on terror" when he's not only unleashed the Iraqi national forces to beat the shit out of the insurgents as CNN won't let us (and they are).
And Obama is doubling the number of troops in Afghanistan. You know, to actually catch bin Laden and kill the taleban who got very strong thru 2008, as you well know. They now run 80%+ of the country, and they only had 25% of the country in 2005. Obama ain't having that shit. He's beating the hell out of them now. We didn't have the forces there to do that from 05 to 08 because they were cleaning up Iraq.
And he's kept most of the nifty interrogation policies in place. our guys still do what they want.
So can you list the exact policies Obama has done to undo the Bush policies? We're "less safe" now, even though we have MORE troops fighting the bad guys? I'm confused dude.
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Obama needs to stop acting like a bitch, and act more like a president.
He has 5, yes FIVE interviews on TV today. Is he running a country or pimping his new album?
Jesus Hussein Christ, get your head out of your ass.
Also, he needs to stop kissing Arabs hands when he meets them.
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Most of them could probably not name his stance on a single issue.
Howard Stern went around town and read McCain's platform and said it was Obama's to blacks. All said they agree with it and would vote for "change".