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No wonder she didn't want reporters there.
She flies to China to bash America on Foreign soil.
Obama took MAJOR heat when he bashed American policy on foreign soil, rightfully so. Will the same critics be tough on Palin for her actions?
Former US vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin said the US government was wasting taxpayers' money and could aggravate poverty, said delegates at her first speech outside North America on Wednesday.
Palin, the former governor of Alaska, gave hundreds of financial big-hitters at the CLSA Investors' Forum in Hong Kong a wide-ranging speech that covered Alaska, international terrorism, US economic policy and trade with China.
Her performance, which was closed to the media, divided opinion.
Some of those who attended praised her forthright views on government social and economic intervention and others walked out early in disgust.
"She was brilliant," said a European delegate, on condition of anonymity.
"She said America was spending a lot of money and it was a temporary solution. Normal people are having to pay more and more but things don't get better. The rich will leave the country and the poor will get poorer."
Two US delegates left early, with one saying "it was awful, we couldn't stand it any longer". He declined to be identified.
via Drudge
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"CLSA, an arm of French bank Credit Agricole, said it closed Palin's session to the media after she indicated that she would have to adjust her speech if reporters were present"
u have to wonder...
By undermining our economic policy in front of so many foreign investers... she's really helping to weaken the dollar, isn't she? I guess she looks better for 2012 if Obama's economic policy fails. But she's partially helping it to fail.
She could have extolled American values and ingeniuity, and told the world that despite the tough times, America will come thru shining.
instead, it's this almost apologist speech. She's telling the world that we're worthless economically. And she's doing it on chinese soil? Undermine our recovery by instigating doubt with our trading partners
Go to foreign soil and bash our country as it tries to get back on its feet.
I dunno... if Obama lost the election, and went to China (paid by a french bank) to tell the world's investors that Mccain/Palin are cripping the dollar and enabling poverty, I think people would be pretty critical of that move..
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Can't wait to hear the spin on this one.
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"CLSA, an arm of French bank Credit Agricole, said it closed Palin's session to the media after she indicated that she would have to adjust her speech if reporters were present"
Not in the slightest. She was giving a speech on planet earth, not the moon. ::)
u have to wonder...
By undermining our economic policy in front of so many foreign investers... she's really helping to weaken the dollar, isn't she? I guess she looks better for 2012 if Obama's economic policy fails. But she's partially helping it to fail.
She could have extolled American values and ingeniuity, and told the world that despite the tough times, America will come thru shining.
instead, it's this almost apologist speech. She's telling the world that we're worthless economically. And she's doing it on chinese soil? Undermine our recovery by instigating doubt with our trading partners
Go to foreign soil and bash our country as it tries to get back on its feet.
I dunno... if Obama lost the election, and went to China (paid by a french bank) to tell the world's investors that Mccain/Palin are cripping the dollar and enabling poverty, I think people would be pretty critical of that move..
Be honest, what is it about what she said that you disagree with. Considering of course that everyone on the planet knows of Palin.
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Be honest, what is it about what she said that you disagree with. Considering of course that everyone on the planet knows of Palin.
America doesn't apologize. And American leaders don't go to chinese soil and shit on our policies, our dollar.
We're fighting for our collective national economic lives, and her speech undermines these efforts.
Her hubby admittedly spends almost a decade as a registered member of a separist party. And she speaks for their events as governor. Now she goes to China and undermines our recovery.
But hey, the EURO delegates loved her, even if the Americans left in disgust.
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America doesn't apologize. And American leaders don't go to chinese soil and shit on our policies, our dollar.
We're fighting for our collective national economic lives, and her speech undermines these efforts.
Her hubby admittedly spends almost a decade as a registered member of a separist party. And she speaks for their events as governor. Now she goes to China and undermines our recovery.
But hey, the EURO delegates loved her, even if the Americans left in disgust.
She was 1000000% correct is she said that. Obama's economics goals is/are communism/marxism.
Deal with it 240.
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She was 1000000% correct is she said that. Obama's economics goals is/are communism/marxism.
Is it acceptable for american leaders (and she is still one of the top GOP leaders) to bash policy in China?
If Obama had lost the election and went to china (after getting a payday from the french) to talk smack about Mccain's economic policy as we're in the midst of a depression...
You'd be okay with that, 33? yes or no?
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Is it acceptable for american leaders (and she is still one of the top GOP leaders) to bash policy in China?
If Obama had lost the election and went to china (after getting a payday from the french) to talk smack about Mccain's economic policy as we're in the midst of a depression...
You'd be okay with that, 33? yes or no?
If McCain was doing what obama is doing, 10000% I would support that.
If McCain was actively proomitng marxist policies, amnesty for ilegals, cap & trade, etc, damn right I want people to call him out.
This picture fits you to a tee.
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If McCain was doing what obama is doing, 10000% I would support that.
If McCain was actively proomitng marxist policies, amnesty for ilegals, cap & trade, etc, damn right I want people to call him out.
This picture fits you to a tee.
Okay. You feel it's okay for American leaders to undermine our govt - on foreign soil - as long as you agree with their opinion.
Not me. it was wrong for obama to go to berlin and bash bush's policy, and it was wrong for palin to go to china to bash obama's policy.
But I'm taking politics and emotion out of it. I love my country more than I love any political party.
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Okay. You feel it's okay for American leaders to undermine our govt - on foreign soil - as long as you agree with their opinion.
Not me. it was wrong for obama to go to berlin and bash bush's policy, and it was wrong for palin to go to china to bash obama's policy.
But I'm taking politics and emotion out of it. I love my country more than I love any political party.
I love my country more than I love any political party.
Than stop shilling for this marxist radical in the WH who is pushing policies to enslave you.
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I love my country more than I love any political party.
Than stop shilling for this marxist radical in the WH who is pushing policies to enslave you.
Hey man, we all have differing political opinions. The fact that you feel it's acceptable for American leaders to visit the soil of China and make secret statements (no reporters!) that undermine our economy, our govt, and our position as a superpower...
Well, I'm not sure there is a lot more for us to chat about on this thread. I feel it's NEVER acceptable to undermine American interests. You admit it's okay - if you agree with the content of the speech. We're different in that manner, nothing wrong with that man.
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Hey man, we all have differing political opinions. The fact that you feel it's acceptable for American leaders to visit the soil of China and make secret statements (no reporters!) that undermine our economy, our govt, and our position as a superpower...
Well, I'm not sure there is a lot more for us to chat about on this thread. I feel it's NEVER acceptable to undermine American interests. You admit it's okay - if you agree with the content of the speech. We're different in that manner, nothing wrong with that man.
The only one undermining our economy is the person you have a cardboard cut-out of in your home.
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The only one undermining our economy is the person you have a cardboard cut-out of in your home.
Oh. I see.
Were you okay with Obama standing in germany for 200k foreigners and bashing Bush?
Yes or no?
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Oh. I see.
Were you okay with Obama standing in germany for 200k foreigners and bashing Bush?
Yes or no?
I personally dont like it, but sometimes the truth needs to be told regardless.
BTW - everyone but you and few others see the disaster looming with obamanics.
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I personally dont like it, but sometimes the truth needs to be told regardless.
BTW - everyone but you and few others see the disaster looming with obamanics.
I think Palin made a lot of great points.
However I think she should have stood on US soil and done it.
instead, she's paid low six-figures (from a french bank?) to speak to a bunch of foreign investors on Chinese soil, with cameras banned.
We don't know how much damage she could have done to economic recovery.
I love America. I don't think she should ever be disgraced by our leaders taking money to stand on our enemy's turf and bash us.
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Does everybody not know Palin ?
Are you expecting the planet to take her seriously ?
Are you living in a bubble ?
Seriously - this will have ZERO impact on anything. The woman is a joke.
She does in this case, have a reasonable point. Not that anyone will take it seriously.
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I think Palin made a lot of great points.
However I think she should have stood on US soil and done it.
instead, she's paid low six-figures (from a french bank?) to speak to a bunch of foreign investors on Chinese soil, with cameras banned.
We don't know how much damage she could have done to economic recovery.
I love America. I don't think she should ever be disgraced by our leaders taking money to stand on our enemy's turf and bash us.
240 - you dont get it.
Obama's enemy is our economy. He hates capitilism. He wants us to fail so that he can institute his marxist schemes while people are desperate for "change".
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1. Yet we should take serious Diversity Czars who tell whites they need to step down,
2. We should take seriously a Global Warming Czar who in the 1970's said we were entering an Ice Age?
3. We should take seriously a Chairman of the Federal Reserve who has gotten every single prediction wrong up till today?
4. We should take seriously a President who has never had a job prior to this one and does not even grasp the most basic concepts of economics?
Look, I understand Palin is the butt of jokes, but lets call a spade a spade, there are jokers abound right now, not only Palin. The biggest ones are in DC, not Alaska.
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Is Sarah Palin a government official,an elected official,or is she a private citizen giving her views.Last time I checked,private citizens are allowed to say what they want.Olbermann went on television every night and bashed Bush,where was 240?Granted,no one watches Olbermann because hes a no talent liar,but he is a private citizen giving his opinion.Pretty odd that we now want to squash freedom of speech now that we have a socialist president.
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Is Sarah Palin a government official,an elected official,or is she a private citizen giving her views.Last time I checked,private citizens are allowed to say what they want.Olbermann went on television every night and bashed Bush,where was 240?Granted,no one watches Olbermann because hes a no talent liar,but he is a private citizen giving his opinion.Pretty odd that we now want to squash freedom of speech now that we have a socialist president.
Palin was 100% correct in her speech, just as she was on Dear Leaders' health care garbage, cap & trade schemes, and other reckless policies.
The left just cant bring themselves to the fact that a dunce like Palin actually grasps reality far more than the brilliant transformational harvard trained messiah.
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Palin was 100% correct in her speech, just as she was on Dear Leaders' health care garbage, cap & trade schemes, and other reckless policies.
The left just cant bring themselves to the fact that a dunce like Palin actually grasps reality far more than the brilliant transformational harvard trained messiah.
240 is a funny fellow.When EX-PRESIDENT Jimmy Carter goes all over the world and knocks the US I dont read a peep from 240.Palin knocks the all mighty Obama and he is outraged.Now,I realise that Palin is a MUCH BIGGER player then the stumbling,bumbling,senile worst president in the history of the country.I also know most look at Carter much the same way they look at Biden,the old "THATS JUST JOE" in Carters case its "THATS JUST JIMMY" because both are so fucking stupid they have built in excuses for their stupidity.However,you might think 240 would have a bit more consistancy.
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I think it's great that she speaks her mind. Although I'm not stupid to think she wrote that speech herself, rather it's part of a strategy of hers.
But it's nice to see that these days it's ok for US politicians to go abroad and voice other opinions than that of the sitting president.
A little different from Bush's first term.
I may not agree with Palin, but I'd rim her, to paraphrase Voltaire. 8)
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If 240 wants outrage and hear someone insult,rip,denegrate the US then I suggest he listen to Obamas speech today at the UN.In front of that group of two bit tin horn dictators he insulted his own country.He is a disgrace and a traitor.
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If 240 wants outrage and hear someone insult,rip,denegrate the US then I suggest he listen to Obamas speech today at the UN.In front of that group of two bit tin horn dictators he insulted his own country.He is a disgrace and a traitor.
Ha ha. Nice one Billy. Check this out.
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Ha ha. Nice one Billy. Check this out.
Isn't it Sarah Palin who's out bad mouthing America this time though? ??? (Not saying she's wrong, but...)
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Isn't it Sarah Palin who's out bad mouthing America this time though? ??? (Not saying she's wrong, but...)
The difference is that she is looking for America to be prosperous, wealthy, free.
DEAR LEADER is trying to knock us to to the level of Cuba and other third world nations. Dear Leader hates capitilism and hates our constitution.
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Fidel Castro praises Obama on climate change
By PAUL HAVEN (AP) – 2 hours ago
HAVANA — Barack Obama's call for action on climate change and his admission that rich nations have a particular responsibility to lead has received strong praise from an unusual source — U.S. nemesis Fidel Castro.
The former Cuban leader on Wednesday called the American president's speech at the United Nations "brave" and said no other American head of state would have had the courage to make similar remarks.
In a speech at the United Nations on Tuesday, Obama acknowledged that the United States had been slow to act on climate change, but said Washington was now prepared to be a full partner as the world confronts the threat.
He said developed nations that have caused much of the climate change the planet has suffered have a "responsibility to lead," but added that rapidly growing nations must do their part as well.
That admission of America's past errors "was without a doubt a brave gesture," Castro wrote in comments published by Cuban state-media Wednesday.
"It would only be fair to recognize that no other United States president would have had the courage to say what he said," the former Cuban leader continued.
Castro, 83, handed over power to his brother Raul in February 2008, but has continued to release frequent essays on current events which are published in state media under the title "Reflections of Comrade Fidel."
In Wednesday's edition, the former Cuban leader quoted extensively from Obama's speech, though he also criticized what he called America's aggressive military and economic foreign policy.
"Its hundreds of military bases installed in dozens of countries on all the continents, its aircraft carriers and naval fleet, its thousands of nuclear arms, its wars of conquest, its military industrial complex and its arms trading are not compatible with the survival of our species," he wrote.
US-Cuban relations have thawed somewhat since Obama took office in January. The U.S. leader has loosened financial and travel restrictions on Americans with relatives on the island, and the two countries last week held talks on restarting direct mail service suspended since 1963.
Raul Castro has said he is open to meeting face-to-face with the U.S. leader on neutral ground, and that all subjects could be on the table, and Fidel has praised Obama as a smart and sincere man. That is quite a difference from Cuba's attitude toward former President George W. Bush, who was depicted on Havana billboards as a vampire.
But the warm words have so far failed to bring about concrete change on core issues.
Obama has left intact the 47-year trade embargo on the island, and U.S. officials have said for months that they would like to see the single-party, communist state accept some political, economic or social changes.
Cuba has repeatedly ruled out making any concessions in return for the lifting of the embargo.
Obama also was praised by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin earlier this month for canceling parts of a missile defense system that Moscow had viewed as a threat to its security. Putin called the move a "right and brave decision."
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Hmmm, all the leftist American-hating dictators around world love Obama.
Wonder why? ? ?
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Isn't it Sarah Palin who's out bad mouthing America this time though? ??? (Not saying she's wrong, but...)
Obama JUST DID IT TODAY AT THE UN!!!!!ALL he does is rip this country and on top of it lies,lies,lies about the absolute bullshit of global warming.He is a traitor and a disgrace and he should be impeeched for being a traitor.
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Obama JUST DID IT TODAY AT THE UN!!!!!ALL he does is rip this country and on top of it lies,lies,lies about the absolute bullshit of global warming.He is a traitor and a disgrace and he should be impeeched for being a traitor.
Obama really is a pos . I heard his disgraceful speech and people who voted for him need to hang their heads in shame for the disaster they have brought us. He is a liar, a fraud, a marxist, a stooge, a phoney, and a wannabe dictator.
Even Hillary WOULD NEVER HAVE GIVEN THAT SPEECH.
Hillary loves this country even though I disagree with her on a lot of things. Obama genuinenly is a marxist POFS who I will work tirelessly to defeat in 2012.
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Obama JUST DID IT TODAY AT THE UN!!!!!ALL he does is rip this country and on top of it lies,lies,lies about the absolute bullshit of global warming.He is a traitor and a disgrace and he should be impeeched for being a traitor.
Obama was thrashed in Euro media for not delivering on climate politics.
USA is still responsible for 20 % of the Carbon dioxide emissions while only having 5% of the worlds population.
In other words - USA uses way more energy than the average.
Or in terms that you may care for - USA is dependent on other nations for energy.
What?
You think all those flat screen TV's and X'boxes and shit somehow just magically runs on their own? :o
Don't work like that.
For every gadget, digs themselves deeper into energy dependency. Good thing is that there is plenty of natural resources.
Denmark has been developing wind power stations for 30 years and are pretty much independent due to it.
USA is a much bigger country and has much bigger resources. Why shouldn't USA be able to do what a little shit country like Denmark has done?
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Obama was thrashed in Euro media for not delivering on climate politics.
USA is still responsible for 20 % of the Carbon dioxide emissions while only having 5% of the worlds population.
In other words - USA uses way more energy than the average.
Or in terms that you may care for - USA is dependent on other nations for energy.
What?
You think all those flat screen TV's and X'boxes and shit somehow just magically runs on their own? :o
Don't work like that.
For every gadget, digs themselves deeper into energy dependency. Good thing is that there is plenty of natural resources.
Denmark has been developing wind power stations for 30 years and are pretty much independent due to it.
USA is a much bigger country and has much bigger resources. Why shouldn't USA be able to do what a little shit country like Denmark has done?
So rather than curtailing energy use, did it ever dawn on these assholes to increase supply?
When americans consume and use energy, guess what Hedge, people have jobs and are employed.
The liberal mental disorder does not realize that curtailing energy use means less employment and jobs.
No thanks.
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Obama was thrashed in Euro media for not delivering on climate politics.
USA is still responsible for 20 % of the Carbon dioxide emissions while only having 5% of the worlds population.
In other words - USA uses way more energy than the average.
Or in terms that you may care for - USA is dependent on other nations for energy.
What?
You think all those flat screen TV's and X'boxes and shit somehow just magically runs on their own? :o
Don't work like that.
For every gadget, digs themselves deeper into energy dependency. Good thing is that there is plenty of natural resources.
Denmark has been developing wind power stations for 30 years and are pretty much independent due to it.
USA is a much bigger country and has much bigger resources. Why shouldn't USA be able to do what a little shit country like Denmark has done?
Lets see,we fund half the freaking world.We should use 80% of the energy if we want to.Or else,let these countries pay back what we have given them through the years and we stop ALL foreign aide today.Its amazing,we pay for the worlds needs,build their countries,give them medicine and aide everytime they are in trouble and OUR PRESIDENT like so many libs BLAME US for stupidity like global warming[which is a lie as the earth is cooling].
So,what we should do is destroy our economy so fools and kooks like fat ass Al Gore can get rich.Tremendous idea.No wonder that kook is our president.
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So rather than curtailing energy use, did it ever dawn on these assholes to increase supply?
When americans consume and use energy, guess what Hedge, people have jobs and are employed.
The liberal mental disorder does not realize that curtailing energy use means less employment and jobs.
No thanks.
You're seriously demented.
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33 and BILLY are cool with our leaders trashing america...
just as long as they agree with their politics :)
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33 and BILLY are cool with our leaders trashing america...
just as long as they agree with their politics :)
Palin is not a leader of this country. She is a private citizen
BTW - you have never once voiced displeasure of Obama on his Blame- America tour.
So 240 - you are wrong again, as usual.
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33 and BILLY are cool with our leaders trashing america...
just as long as they agree with their politics :)
Palin IS NOT A LEADER!!She is not holding ANY public office.Today we have our kook president trashing our country in front of his thug dictator friends.Id say thats very very different wouldnt you?
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Palin IS NOT A LEADER!!She is not holding ANY public office.Today we have our kook president trashing our country in front of his thug dictator friends.Id say thats very very different wouldnt you?
240 - once again -
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so you guys are re-defining your positions?
you said earlier that it's okay for anyone to trash america overseas - as long as you believe it.
now, only "non-leaders" are allowed to do it?
hey guys, have you heard of something called SarahPAC?
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so you guys are re-defining your positions?
you said earlier that it's okay for anyone to trash america overseas - as long as you believe it.
now, only "non-leaders" are allowed to do it?
hey guys, have you heard of something called SarahPAC?
I went off of what you said.
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Palin IS NOT A LEADER!!She is not holding ANY public office.
And she never will be either.
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And she never will be either.
I agree with that.Unfortunately we have a radical racist kook who loves to trash the country in fron of his kook pals in the UN.OBAMA WAS THE OPENING ACT FOR A BUNCH OF KOOKS THAT THINK OF THIS COUNTRY AS HE DOES.Its a great time in America when the president hates the country so much,his views fall right in line with terrorists,radicals and nuts.
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And she never will be either.
After this disaster we have unfolds in the next two years, Palin, or anyone else for that matter, will be a shoe in.
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After this disaster we have unfolds in the next two years, Palin, or anyone else for that matter, will be a shoe in.
Not.
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After this disaster we have unfolds in the next two years, Palin, or anyone else for that matter, will be a shoe in.
why do you think obama is sitll at 51% approval?
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why do you think obama is sitll at 51% approval?
Duhhhh,when every freaking media outlet[except FOX] gets tingles up their leg and services him every day and night what do you think would happen?
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why do you think obama is sitll at 51% approval?
Because of people like yourself who think Obama is too big to fail and people who are too stubborn to admit that they fell hook line and sinker for a snake oil salemen selling shit.
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Duhhhh,when every freaking media outlet[except FOX] gets tingles up their leg and services him every day and night what do you think would happen?
But FOX is #1. They dominate cable news. Hard to have it both ways. They always condemn this MSM Puzzle, and they're the biggest piece.
It's like McD making commercials bashing fast food.
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But FOX is #1. They dominate cable news. Hard to have it both ways. They always condemn this MSM Puzzle, and they're the biggest piece.
It's like McD making commercials bashing fast food.
Not everyone who watches Fox agrees with it.
BTW - 240:
Dont you think Kadafi's statement today add fuel to the Birther Fire?
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Are u fucking kidding me.....we had sitting Us senators tell us the war was lost, we had the Speaker of the House bash US foreign policy on Syrian soil...we have Carter try and undermine US foreign policy for the last 30 years...240 are u really serious. What Pallin did was nothing, nothing compared to what the libs have done. That worthless scumbag Kennedy tried to help the Soviets undermine Reagan so he could get his drunk ass elected in 1984. Barry needs to go.....he needs to go right now before he costs the lives of our kids, our country and our way of life. If u don't think his actions won't lead to more wars, attacks and bullshit down the line, u don;t have a firm grasp of history.
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Not everyone who watches Fox agrees with it.
not everyone who watches MSNBC or CNN agree with them.
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But FOX is #1. They dominate cable news. Hard to have it both ways. They always condemn this MSM Puzzle, and they're the biggest piece.
It's like McD making commercials bashing fast food.
Are you a dope?FOX is one outlet competing with cbc,nbc,abc,cnn,msnbc,the ny times,washinton post etc etc etc.Its not ONE network vs. another.Its FOX by itself against ALL the other mainstream media sources.
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Are u fucking kidding me.....we had sitting Us senators tell us the war was lost, we had the Speaker of the House bash US foreign policy on Syrian soil...we have Carter try and undermine US foreign policy for the last 30 years...240 are u really serious. What Pallin did was nothing, nothing compared to what the libs have done. That worthless scumbag Kennedy tried to help the Soviets undermine Reagan so he could get his drunk ass elected in 1984. Barry needs to go.....he needs to go right now before he costs the lives of our kids, our country and our way of life. If u don't think his actions won't lead to more wars, attacks and bullshit down the line, u don;t have a firm grasp of history.
240 -= owned again and again and again.