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hey guys, it worked when they did it for the patriot bill, why should this be any diff? :(
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I read this last night.
Disgusting. This entire admnistration and congress is the worst of my lifetime, bar none.
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hey guys, it worked when they did it for the patriot bill, why should this be any diff? :(
And you bitched about it for 8 years, yet now it's ok? C'mon.....
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hey guys, it worked when they did it for the patriot bill, why should this be any diff? :(
240 - take this out of your mouth.
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And you bitched about it for 8 years, yet now it's ok? C'mon.....
where did i say it was oky? it's obviously not. you can shove that dildo, well, you get the idea. of course it's bull to push a bill thru that nobody can read. do you have a quote of me saying otherwise, or were you just so eager to use a dildo pic...
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And you bitched about it for 8 years, yet now it's ok? C'mon.....
thats correct but now that barry is in and using the patriot act and passing legislation to further that end 240 praises obama...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=299165.0
Way to go, obama administration.
This Zazi guy planned to blow up targets ala the 2005 London bombings. Serious stuff.
I remember Bush doing press conferences taking credit for preventing attacks. By the same merit, Obama stopped this one.
240's not a liberal, right... ::)
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where did i say it was oky? it's obviously not. you can shove that dildo, well, you get the idea. of course it's bull to push a bill thru that nobody can read. do you have a quote of me saying otherwise, or were you just so eager to use a dildo pic...
I didn't post any dildos. Maybe this is why you are so confused on so many topics? ;D
You are fitting in perfectly with the modern lib....."where did I say?" What you implied was that since some people didn't complain about the Patriot Act, then why complain now? Yet you fail to see the irony of your statement because you complained about Bush/PA for 8 years, yet the first thing you posted in this thread wasn't outrage over this, which should have been what you posted if you really belived that.
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I didn't post any dildos. Maybe this is why you are so confused on so many topics? ;D
You are fitting in perfectly with the modern lib....."where did I say?" What you implied was that since some people didn't complain about the Patriot Act, then why complain now? Yet you fail to see the irony of your statement because you complained about Bush/PA for 8 years, yet the first thing you posted in this thread wasn't outrage over this, which should have been what you posted if you really belived that.
240 believes Obama can do anything he wants because Dear Leader is going "hook up" poor people. Transparency, fiscal soundness, constituionality, sanity, be damned.
Po folk need to be hooked up, thats all that matters to 240.
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This needs to be released before the final vote. Another bad decision by congress on this one.
Where is the transparency?
240, this is a national debate that must be publicized. I didn't like the patriot act either, but this clearly needs to be out in the open. Americans have been along for the whole process so far.
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hey guys, it worked when they did it for the patriot bill, why should this be any diff? :(
Worst argument ever, what are you 5 year old?
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I don't see a reason nor purpose to post it on the internet. You vote for these guys and gals to read it and vote accordingly, not for the public to read it. It has not yet been enacted so until then there is no reason as to why it should be posted for the public. This was also my stance during the Bush admin. I didn't always agree with the legislation passed but i used my democratic right to vote in someone who i thought would act in my best interests. As should you all. So instead of getting you panties in a bunch relax.
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I don't see a reason nor purpose to post it on the internet. You vote for these guys and gals to read it and vote accordingly, not for the public to read it. It has not yet been enacted so until then there is no reason as to why it should be posted for the public. This was also my stance during the Bush admin. I didn't always agree with the legislation passed but i used my democratic right to vote in someone who i thought would act in my best interests. As should you all. So instead of getting you panties in a bunch relax.
First of all, as we have found out most of them don't read the bills before they vote for them.
So you don't think the public should be allowed to read a bill that is going to directly affect how medical care is administered in the country? How exactly is the representative supposed to represent the interests of his constituants if they have no idea what is going on in DC?
No wonder this coutry is so fucked up, god forbid you take the time to find out what kind of bullshit laws they are trying to pass.
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hey guys, it worked when they did it for the patriot bill, why should this be any diff? :(
Do you even believe half the shit you post here, or do you just enjoy making blanket generalizations without any resemblance of truth?
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I don't see a reason nor purpose to post it on the internet. You vote for these guys and gals to read it and vote accordingly, not for the public to read it. It has not yet been enacted so until then there is no reason as to why it should be posted for the public. This was also my stance during the Bush admin. I didn't always agree with the legislation passed but i used my democratic right to vote in someone who i thought would act in my best interests. As should you all. So instead of getting you panties in a bunch relax.
well there was that little campaign promise to give the US public 24 hours to view a bill before it is voted on ::)
guess that was just a lie kcballer? youre ok with obama lying like that?
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well there was that little campaign promise to give the US public 24 hours to view a bill before it is voted on ::)
guess that was just a lie kcballer? youre ok with obama lying like that?
What are they hiding KC?
Additionally, would you feel the same way if Palin were Pres along with a GOP congress on a proposed abortion bill?
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well there was that little campaign promise to give the US public 24 hours to view a bill before it is voted on ::)
guess that was just a lie kcballer? youre ok with obama lying like that?
I don't care to see it Tony so it doesn't bothered me. Elected officials are voted in to review and decide not you or i.
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What are they hiding KC?
Additionally, would you feel the same way if Palin were Pres along with a GOP congress on a proposed abortion bill?
Silly question Palin won't be pres she'll quit half way through her campaign claiming lame duck status.
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Silly question Palin won't be pres she'll quit half way through her campaign claiming lame duck status.
That wasnt my point and you know it. Presuming Obama is not president for life, there will be a president you hate at some point and you would not be ok with them doing the same stuff that Dear Leader is doing.
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That wasnt my point and you know it. Presuming Obama is not president for life, there will be a president you hate at some point and you would not be ok with them doing the same stuff that Dear Leader is doing.
Yes there was a president i wasn't happy with and his name was Bush. I still didn't care to see the bills until they had been voted on by those voted in to represent us. If something is voted in i don't agree with i will use my democratic rights such as lawful protest, write my representative and vote in the next election accordingly.
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hey guys, it worked when they did it for the patriot bill, why should this be any diff?
Was it done for the Patriot Act? To this type of an extent? Becuase even if it was, it was done in the wake of 9/11, when we thought that possibly several other terrorist attacks could be imminent. In this situation, there is no national emergency that this bill is trying to address. ANd the bill wont even start to try to address it until 2012!!!!
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Yes there was a president i wasn't happy with and his name was Bush. I still didn't care to see the bills until they had been voted on by those voted in to represent us. If something is voted in i don't agree with i will use my democratic rights such as lawful protest, write my representative and vote in the next election accordingly.
I dont have trust in these bought off thieves to trust they will do the right thing for you and me. I say we stop them as early as possible and watch them with a microscope at all times.
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Do you even believe half the shit you post here, or do you just enjoy making blanket generalizations without any resemblance of truth?
I was under the impression that the patriot bill was never discussed on the floor (convenient anthrax mailed to the building where discussion was to take place) and they had to rush vote it because bush said so.
If obama was standing on tv saying millions would die of swine flu if congress didn't pass his plan immediately, it would be BS.
When bush said we have to pass patriot act immediately or be attacked, it was the same thing.
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Was it done for the Patriot Act? To this type of an extent? Becuase even if it was, it was done in the wake of 9/11, when we thought that possibly several other terrorist attacks could be imminent.
And why did we think that?
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I don't care to see it Tony so it doesn't bothered me. Elected officials are voted in to review and decide not you or i.
obama was voted in with the promise that he would give the public 24 hours to view any bill that is going to be put up for a vote on the internet...
youre ok with him lying about that?
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I was under the impression that the patriot bill was never discussed on the floor (convenient anthrax mailed to the building where discussion was to take place) and they had to rush vote it because bush said so.
If obama was standing on tv saying millions would die of swine flu if congress didn't pass his plan immediately, it would be BS.
When bush said we have to pass patriot act immediately or be attacked, it was the same thing.
you mean like obama did with the porkulus bill 240?
face it 240 your an obama shill the official obama butt plug as it were...
you bashed bush for the same things you praise obama for ::)
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I dont have trust in these bought off thieves to trust they will do the right thing for you and me. I say we stop them as early as possible and watch them with a microscope at all times.
The run for congress or the senate yourself 333.
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obama was voted in with the promise that he would give the public 24 hours to view any bill that is going to be put up for a vote on the internet...
youre ok with him lying about that?
I don't care. There are bigger things to worry about. Every politician lies at some stage about something, usually many things. This is not one i care about.
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And why did we think that?
Because its common sense. If a terrorist attack on us was this successful then ofcourse it emboldened our enemies and would increase the chances of others happening. Not because the evil Bush adminisration is trying ti "make us believe it" and "is trying to scare us" and "engaging in the politics of fear".
And its a far cry from this retarded health care fiasco.
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I don't care. There are bigger things to worry about. Every politician lies at some stage about something, usually many things. This is not one i care about.
I agree and healthcare is NOT one of them...
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I don't care. There are bigger things to worry about. Every politician lies at some stage about something, usually many things. This is not one i care about.
Ahhhh...Blissful ignorance.
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out."
-Martin Niemöller
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Ahhhh...Blissful ignorance.
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out."
-Martin Niemöller
You beat me to it ;D
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Ahhhh...Blissful ignorance.
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out."
-Martin Niemöller
Not at all my friend. I am as active as anyone i just choose to not let the little things worry me. especially when it's not exactly new that a bill isn't released. It's just pure straw clutching by a jilted MINORITY of americans.
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I agree and healthcare is NOT one of them...
Well tell that to your representatives because it looks like it is a topic they are being told to care about.
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i just choose to not let the little things worry me.
Yet you constantly complain about the the ONE media outlet with a conservative slant.
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you mean like obama did with the porkulus bill 240?
face it 240 your an obama shill the official obama butt plug as it were...
you bashed bush for the same things you praise obama for ::)
what did i praise obama for?
dude, that's like the tenth time this week youve talked about butt plugs, unprovoked.
odd.
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Yet you constantly complain about the the ONE media outlet with a conservative slant.
Constantly? I haven't mentioned any news outlet in who knows how long.
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Not at all my friend. I am as active as anyone i just choose to not let the little things worry me. especially when it's not exactly new that a bill isn't released. It's just pure straw clutching by a jilted MINORITY of americans.
You consider revamping the entire US health care system a "little thing?"
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what did i praise obama for?
dude, that's like the tenth time this week youve talked about butt plugs, unprovoked.
odd.
i havent mentioned butt plugs in sometime now 240
and you praised obama for foiling the terror plot in NY...how do you think the CIA/FBI got that information?
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i havent mentioned butt plugs in sometime now 240
been like 2 days. i'm proud of you lasting 48 huors without it coming up
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been like 2 days. i'm proud of you lasting 48 huors without it coming up
well you do a good job of being the official obama butt plug which even youre ignorant ass cant deny.
sorry its just an easy analogy that presents itself quit posting and then maybe ill quit mentioning it jack ass...
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hey guys, it worked when they did it for the patriot bill, why should this be any diff? :(
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This is why the rebuplic is doomed, no matter what the current POTUS is doing you think it can be justified by quantifying it with something the former POTUS did. Wrong is wrong, for a minute drop all the political BS and look at it obectivly. What possible reason could they have for not wanting the American people to see this before it is voted on? What is in this bill that that they need to hide?
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This is why the rebuplic is doomed, no matter what the current POTUS is doing you think it can be justified by quantifying it with something the former POTUS did. Wrong is wrong, for a minute drop all the political BS and look at it obectivly. What possible reason could they have for not wanting the American people to see this before it is voted on? What is in this bill that that they need to hide?
Mons & 240 are perfect examples of typical Obama voter. They refused prior to, during, and even now, the reality of just who Obama is.
No matter how many facts or amount of data presented to them, their sole retreat is blaming Bush.
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Mons & 240 are perfect examples of typical Obama voter. They refused prior to, during, and even now, the reality of just who Obama is.
No matter how many facts or amount of data presented to them, their sole retreat is blaming Bush.
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