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Title: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: IceCold on September 27, 2009, 08:22:51 PM
the last issue of FLEX with dexter/phil on the cover, outlines how shitty dexter's work ethic is.

he refused to go heavy on anything and by heavy he means 225 on bent rows.

this was in february - wel before the olympia.

dexter is all drugs - he turned pro weighing 198 at the north america's in 98.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Rinc on September 27, 2009, 08:25:57 PM
I see the same lack of work ethic with Wolf and he got placed accordingly because of that.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: TRIX on September 27, 2009, 09:14:41 PM
So in 11 years he has gained 20 lbs? lol
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: IceCold on September 27, 2009, 09:43:18 PM
So in 11 years he has gained 20 lbs? lol

he's listed at 235 lbs. - so he's gained almost 40 lbs of competition weight.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 27, 2009, 10:14:39 PM
he's listed at 235 lbs. - so he's gained almost 40 lbs of competition weight.

so he needs another 11 years to reach jay's weight :-X
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Parker on September 27, 2009, 10:26:29 PM
the last issue of FLEX with dexter/phil on the cover, outlines how shitty dexter's work ethic is.

he refused to go heavy on anything and by heavy he means 225 on bent rows.

this was in february - wel before the olympia.

dexter is all drugs - he turned pro weighing 198 at the north america's in 98.
Tell the whole story. Because he was going heavy on one arm dumbell rows, and was egging Phil on. This is proved on vid, that was posted here a few weeks ago. Also he stated something about avoiding injuries, he has something wrong with one of biceps. At least get your shit right before you post. You only posted something based on your skewed point of view. And if Dex was so lazy, how is that he finds a way to Always come peeled---one of reasons why he's called the blade, and why he's so deadly in comp. You can't count him out, because of his conditioning.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: On_Swole on September 27, 2009, 11:38:22 PM
he turned pro weighing 198 at the north america's in 98.

He weighed in at 187 when he won the North American.

Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Beener on September 27, 2009, 11:39:05 PM
Everyone keeps sayin how lazy flex and dex and all those guys were and how they "never reached their real potential"...yet they're total freaks and were/are the best in the world...

Lifting smart or light doesnt always mean lazy. Plus if you're dedicated enough to compete as much as these guys, thats not lazy either. blows my mind, the lazy argument.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: MCWAY on September 28, 2009, 05:45:47 AM
Everyone keeps sayin how lazy flex and dex and all those guys were and how they "never reached their real potential"...yet they're total freaks and were/are the best in the world...

Lifting smart or light doesnt always mean lazy. Plus if you're dedicated enough to compete as much as these guys, thats not lazy either. blows my mind, the lazy argument.

They said that about Flex, because he didn't win the Olympia. But, that claim doesn't work, regarding Dexter, because he DID win Olympia.

Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Stark on September 28, 2009, 05:49:27 AM
the last issue of FLEX with dexter/phil on the cover, outlines how shitty dexter's work ethic is.

he refused to go heavy on anything and by heavy he means 225 on bent rows.

this was in february - wel before the olympia.

dexter is all drugs - he turned pro weighing 198 at the north america's in 98.

smart man - this is bodybuilding not powerlifting
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on September 28, 2009, 05:51:37 AM
Everyone keeps sayin how lazy flex and dex and all those guys were and how they "never reached their real potential"...yet they're total freaks and were/are the best in the world...

Lifting smart or light doesnt always mean lazy. Plus if you're dedicated enough to compete as much as these guys, thats not lazy either. blows my mind, the lazy argument.

The thing is, even if they don't train to failure they don't adjust rests between sets, volume etc, they train like they would when training to failure but just cut the sets few reps short. If Dexter added sets and rested 1 minute between sets I don't think anyone could tell he is lazy.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Meso_z on September 28, 2009, 06:23:25 AM
the last issue of FLEX with dexter/phil on the cover, outlines how shitty dexter's work ethic is.

he refused to go heavy on anything and by heavy he means 225 on bent rows.

this was in february - wel before the olympia.

dexter is all drugs - he turned pro weighing 198 at the north america's in 98.

225 on bent over rows? omg...

yes its not powerlifting its bbing blah blah blah but you need some weight to build quality mass and not waterballoon slin filled muscles.

Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: The_Punisher on September 28, 2009, 06:32:06 AM
I hope Dexter consider the 202 class from now on. He'll have a better chance.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 28, 2009, 06:33:54 AM
Dexter's lack of work ethic is genetic. 8)
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: njflex on September 28, 2009, 06:37:49 AM
is dex more pissed at losing to jay or finishing behind branch.no one expected branch there ,that was at the least heaths spot.heath has to be pissed too.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: MCWAY on September 28, 2009, 06:55:44 AM
I hope Dexter consider the 202 class from now on. He'll have a better chance.

That makes no sense. The man place third, for crying out loud. Plus, he just lost a title that certain folks claimed he'd never win, in the first place.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Meso_z on September 28, 2009, 07:07:25 AM
is dex more pissed at losing to jay or finishing behind branch.no one expected branch there ,that was at the least heaths spot.heath has to be pissed too.

It will do good for their egos.

Next time they SHOULD be better.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: aglifter on September 28, 2009, 07:10:02 AM
Dex has incredible genetics for getting in shape.  He probably is lazy.

Tell the whole story. Because he was going heavy on one arm dumbell rows, and was egging Phil on. This is proved on vid, that was posted here a few weeks ago. Also he stated something about avoiding injuries, he has something wrong with one of biceps. At least get your shit right before you post. You only posted something based on your skewed point of view. And if Dex was so lazy, how is that he finds a way to Always come peeled---one of reasons why he's called the blade, and why he's so deadly in comp. You can't count him out, because of his conditioning.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: swilkins1984 on September 28, 2009, 07:11:39 AM
Since Wolf is in Germany he really should hit up Dorian for a year of hardcore training. Can you imagine what the guy could look like after a year with Dorian?  :o
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: jpm101 on September 28, 2009, 07:32:19 AM
Big news alert, not all Pro's train using extreme heavy weight. Does not mean their lazy but know their body and how it respones. In just about any serious gym you find that the 400+ benchers do not always have the more impressive chest, than say a guy who pops out reps with 230-250 and is only concerned with BB'ing, not weight on the bar.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: wild willie on September 28, 2009, 08:48:22 AM
Big news alert, not all Pro's train using extreme heavy weight. Does not mean their lazy but know their body and how it respones. In just about any serious gym you find that the 400+ benchers do not always have the more impressive chest, than say a guy who pops out reps with 230-250 and is only concerned with BB'ing, not weight on the bar.
exactly my thoughts too........why do people think that because someone trains with moderate weight and some safety precautions.....they are not working hard........why would anyone want to throw up 405 on rows......when you can get a good feeling in the muscles and row with 225-275. Remember.......Haney had one of the best backs in history.......he would row with 185. Smart training will get you results and keep you from getting injured. Dexter is awesome and will be back next year for the Olympia.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: kyomu on September 28, 2009, 08:50:17 AM
He is not all drug. He trains hard. But surely he doesnt own those massive genetic.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: dustin on September 28, 2009, 08:50:53 AM
Nothing wrong with "smart" weight, like Jay's squats with 315lbs. But it looks like Dex is nothing but a straight up pussy. Big nose black with too much attitude and a ninja turtle shell for a midsection. All nose.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on September 28, 2009, 08:53:47 AM
jayson cutler,,does not train hard at all i visit him occassion and he comes to scottsdale and we train all time,,he does bent over row 315 for 12 and i know guys who show off in gym and do 405 swining left and right,,,,people call jayson pussy in gym when they see 150lber doing 405,,ALL BODYBUILDERS ARE PUSSYS THEY TRAIN LIGHT AS POSSIBLE TO STIMULTE AND GO HOME ONLY THE SKINNIEST PEOPLE TRAIN WITH HEAVY WEIGHTS TO TRY TO GET ATTENTION
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2009, 10:35:34 AM
jayson cutler,,does not train hard at all i visit him occassion and he comes to scottsdale and we train all time,,he does bent over row 315 for 12 and i know guys who show off in gym and do 405 swining left and right,,,,people call jayson pussy in gym when they see 150lber doing 405,,ALL BODYBUILDERS ARE PUSSYS THEY TRAIN LIGHT AS POSSIBLE TO STIMULTE AND GO HOME ONLY THE SKINNIEST PEOPLE TRAIN WITH HEAVY WEIGHTS TO TRY TO GET ATTENTION
And if anybod has seen Dex's Muscletime Dvd, he's a solid trainer, he's not gonna beat his partner in the ground like Shawn Ray, but he's solid. Funny how everybody calls one of the most shredded bodybuildes of all time, "lazy". What happen to Jay last year, or Branch for the past couple of years?
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: 3Dkiller on September 28, 2009, 01:18:16 PM
why go heavy ? only a good reason if you wanna tear ya pecs
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: IceCold on September 28, 2009, 03:59:13 PM
Tell the whole story. Because he was going heavy on one arm dumbell rows, and was egging Phil on. This is proved on vid, that was posted here a few weeks ago. Also he stated something about avoiding injuries, he has something wrong with one of biceps. At least get your shit right before you post. You only posted something based on your skewed point of view. And if Dex was so lazy, how is that he finds a way to Always come peeled---one of reasons why he's called the blade, and why he's so deadly in comp. You can't count him out, because of his conditioning.


even phil commented on dex's training - "you wont be mr. o for long, training like that."

he was right.

stop playing the race card and just admit dexter is all drugs already.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 28, 2009, 04:03:59 PM
the last issue of FLEX with dexter/phil on the cover, outlines how shitty dexter's work ethic is.

he refused to go heavy on anything and by heavy he means 225 on bent rows.

this was in february - wel before the olympia.

dexter is all drugs - he turned pro weighing 198 at the north america's in 98.

an improved 'work ethic' isnt going to do shit for him, with his lazy approach he has absolutely maximized the amount of muscle he can fit on his frame, all the hard work in the world isnt going to make him taller or wider or make his calves great.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: jtsunami on September 28, 2009, 10:26:55 PM
the last issue of FLEX with dexter/phil on the cover, outlines how shitty dexter's work ethic is.

he refused to go heavy on anything and by heavy he means 225 on bent rows.

this was in february - wel before the olympia.

dexter is all drugs - he turned pro weighing 198 at the north america's in 98.

he didn't lose cause he is lazy in gym, he lost cause he is just too small to stand next to the two behemoths who placed in front of him, he looks like a child, seriously dexter needs to enter the 202 class, would do much better freakin twink.

jt
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 29, 2009, 03:04:04 AM

even phil commented on dex's training - "you wont be mr. o for long, training like that."

he was right.

stop playing the race card and just admit dexter is all drugs already.
Thats all he has
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: MCWAY on September 29, 2009, 06:30:54 AM
he didn't lose cause he is lazy in gym, he lost cause he is just too small to stand next to the two behemoths who placed in front of him, he looks like a child, seriously dexter needs to enter the 202 class, would do much better freakin twink.

jt

Some of you Dexter Jackson critics make absolutely no sense. Why would Dexter Jackson need to enter the 202 show...WHEN HE WAS THE REAL MR. OLYMPIA, until this past Saturday? How do you do much better than WINNING THE OLYMPIA by dropping to the 202 class? Plus, last time I checked, he placed 3rd this year.


Those two "behemoths" who placed in front of Jackson this year are the same two "behemoths" he defeated last year. And, to my knowledge, this is the first time Branch Warren has ever placed higher than Dexter Jackson at the Olympia.

Now I know why the cliche is used "they can never take it away from us" when a team wins a world title. Until this past Saturday, Dexter Jackson was the best in the world, Mr. Olympia.

He reached the top of the mountain, when many never thought he could. And, no amount of dumb comments about his needing to go to the 202 (Dex is way too big, anyway) will change that.

If Jay Cutler can regain the title after a loss, Dexter Jackson can, too. What happens if Jay comes in as smooth as a baby's behind next year (as he did last year)? Dex can regain the title. Will that happen? Only time will tell.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: MCWAY on September 29, 2009, 06:33:43 AM
an improved 'work ethic' isnt going to do shit for him, with his lazy approach he has absolutely maximized the amount of muscle he can fit on his frame, all the hard work in the world isnt going to make him taller or wider or make his calves great.

Only three ASC titles and one Mr. Olympia win…….What a lazy bum that Jackson is!!!
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: dyslexic on September 29, 2009, 06:37:57 AM
So... Dex walks into his gym to work out and everyone say's "Hey, you must be the lazy one?"



I'd take that physique any day and if it only took me minimal effort to maintain, fuck it.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: erics on September 29, 2009, 06:45:45 AM
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If Jay Cutler can regain the title after a loss, Dexter Jackson can, too. What happens if Jay comes in as smooth as a baby's behind next year (as he did last year)? Dex can regain the title. Will that happen? Only time will tell.

Exactly.

2008 - Jay was off and Dexter was there to pick up the pieces.
2009 - Jay was on and Dexter hadn't really changed and so Jay wins.

None of this is rocket science.

If only ALL of the Olympias had been judged like this....
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 29, 2009, 06:58:25 AM
Some of you Dexter Jackson critics make absolutely no sense. Why would Dexter Jackson need to enter the 202 show...WHEN HE WAS THE REAL MR. OLYMPIA, until this past Saturday? How do you do much better than WINNING THE OLYMPIA by dropping to the 202 class? Plus, last time I checked, he placed 3rd this year.


Those two "behemoths" who placed in front of Jackson this year are the same two "behemoths" he defeated last year. And, to my knowledge, this is the first time Branch Warren has ever placed higher than Dexter Jackson at the Olympia.

Now I know why the cliche is used "they can never take it away from us" when a team wins a world title. Until this past Saturday, Dexter Jackson was the best in the world, Mr. Olympia.

He reached the top of the mountain, when many never thought he could. And, no amount of dumb comments about his needing to go to the 202 (Dex is way too big, anyway) will change that.

If Jay Cutler can regain the title after a loss, Dexter Jackson can, too. What happens if Jay comes in as smooth as a baby's behind next year (as he did last year)? Dex can regain the title. Will that happen? Only time will tell.
Just a question now?
You are black? White?
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: MCWAY on September 29, 2009, 07:03:26 AM
Just a question now?
You are black? White?

I am MCWAY!! My race holds no relevance in this discussion.
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: wild willie on September 29, 2009, 08:02:19 AM
i don't know why phil heath would call dexter jackson lazy......phil is pretty lazy and has no room to talk.

dexter trains hard...... but now he is just training with more caution......why ego train like branch????


dexter is 225 and peeled......he looks a ton better than jay and ruhl and wolf......period.......a ction jackson will be back stronger than ever.....next year!!!!
Title: Re: dexter - work ethic in FLEX - no wonder he lost
Post by: Rome on September 29, 2009, 08:19:09 AM
We've gotten spoiled watching Ronnie and Dorian videos. Fact is MOST bodybuilders do not train heavy vs their weight/size.
Not everyone has the same inherent strength. Moderate to one person may be heavy to another and lets not forget how small Dexter really is. Without drugs and weightlifting he'd probably weigh about 155 tops.