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Lets say you front squat your body weight supper setting that with dead lifting body weight. I find myself breathing pretty heavy after a few sets, I don't like alot of rest in between to keep the momentum. But man it's pretty hard sometimes anyone else noticed this or does my cardio need even more work? I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, if any. It seems that lung capacity puts a limit before muscle fatigue sometimes, anybody else have this happening?
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you picked the two exercises that require the most oxygen uptake. got yourself a lil death wish have you?
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Yes, it's unusual to breathe heavy when training, especially doing compound exercises supersetted.
I would have this checked out at the doc's office. Might be lung cancer.
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why are you supersetting these two exercises my son?
ta ta
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what is HTH? Hit The Hairy vetch?
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Yes, it's unusual to breathe heavy when training, especially doing compound exercises supersetted.
I would have this checked out at the doc's office. Might be lung cancer.
Lol, true that!
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Yes, it's unusual to breathe heavy when training, especially doing compound exercises supersetted.
I would have this checked out at the doc's office. Might be lung cancer.
Sometimes before this workout I'm worried that I will die, but I do it because it gives a good pump, not locking out I think is also helping this. I always thought if you can do it, why would it be bad? I am natural as well so hell I'm within natural boundaries shouldn't have anything to worry about right? I thought this was common way of working out legs?
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Try some lemon juice, DaddyWaddy.
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No its a suicidal way of working out. Try a set of leg extensions supersetted with a squat, both to failure presuming your goal is hypertrophy. The pump means nothing mate.
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Try some lemon juice, DaddyWaddy.
I will file this sugestion under healthy nutritional habits. not directly related to topic. But thanks for a serious answer.
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No its a suicidal way of working out. Try a set of leg extensions supersetted with a squat, both to failure presuming your goal is hypertrophy. The pump means nothing mate.
my goal is pump while causing hypertrophy, this is optimal yes? I always start and end with leg extensions it gives a very nice warm feeling for half a day. Damn, I might have to reconsider the intensity.
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why are you supersetting these two exercises my son?
ta ta
Lets say you front squat your body weight supper setting that with dead lifting body weight. I find myself breathing pretty heavy after a few sets, I don't like alot of rest in between to keep the momentum. But man it's pretty hard sometimes anyone else noticed this or does my cardio need even more work? I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, if any. It seems that lung capacity puts a limit before muscle fatigue sometimes, anybody else have this happening?
Are you talking about a stiff-legged deadlift? If so, then that wouldn't be a totally unheard of super-set combo.
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Again the pump means nothing! Its a nice feeling but thats about it.
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Are you talking about a stiff-legged deadlift? If so, then that wouldn't be a totally unheard of super-set combo.
yes it is semi stiff so that I don't break the knee backwards supper setting together with Front Squats. This way Quads and hams are more isolatedly targeted.
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I will file this sugestion under healthy nutritional habits. not directly related to topic. But thanks for a serious answer.
No problem. Oh, and maybe increase your rest period if you're having chest pains.
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The pump means nothing mate.
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No its a suicidal way of working out. Try a set of leg extensions supersetted with a squat, both to failure presuming your goal is hypertrophy.
Superset
Failure
does not equal hypertrophy
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No problem. Oh, and maybe increase your rest period if you're having chest pains.
I don't have any pains, but all I can do for 30 seconds is lean ower towards something. Yes this is probably a little fucked up way of training, never thought of that much before.
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yes it is semi stiff so that I don't break the knee backwards supper setting together with Front Squats. This way Quads and hams are more isolatedly targeted.
This would be an okay superset on a light to moderate day - but not on a heavy day.
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True
Superset
Failure
does not equal hypertrophy
Reaching failure is the best way to force a muscle into growth!
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Reaching failure is the best way to force a muscle into growth!
Really?
Enlighten us all.
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This would be an okay superset on a light to moderate day - but not on a heavy day.
Ok. I never have heavy days though. In only do it like this, every time. I always do minimum 16 reps for legs. I always felt like I would get hurt when I try a really heavy squat. I cant seem to build much mass or get strong joints like a power lifter for some reason.
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We do it many time.
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Here goes. Your body is happy as it is, the only way it will adapt is through necessity, for survival.
If you do a set and stop two reps shy of failure, your body is not forced into adapting, ie getting bigger or stronger to its optimal.
Agree?
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Ok. I never have heavy days though. In only do it like this, every time. I always do minimum 16 reps for legs. I always felt like I would get hurt when I try a really heavy squat. I cant seem to build much mass or get strong joints like a power lifter for some reason.
All different styles of training. What you're doing now falls into the muscular endurance arena (although the higher rep ranges can be useful in other styles occassionally) Decide if you want to train for mass, power or endurance. In the meantime, try taking your current 'routine' and bumping up the weight a little (don't try to max right away) dropping down to 10 reps while gradually continuing to bump up the weight until you hit about 20-22% more than what you could get 15-16 at (over the course of the next 2-3 weeks). You'll probably notice a difference. So for instance - if you're doing 200 lbs for 15 reps, you should be able to work up to 240 lbs (for 10 reps) over the course of the next several weeks. Don't just jump right in at 240 because like you said, your joints and other tissues might not be ready.
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All different styles of training. What you're doing now falls into the muscular endurance arena (although the higher rep ranges can be useful in other styles occassionally) Decide if you want to train for mass, power or endurance. In the meantime, try taking your current 'routine' and bumping up the weight a little (don't try to max right away) dropping down to 10 reps while gradually continuing to bump up the weight until you hit about 20-22% more than what you could get 15-16 at (over the course of the next 2-3 weeks). You'll probably notice a difference. So for instance - if you're doing 200 lbs for 15 reps, you should be able to work up to 240 lbs (for 10 reps) over the course of the next several weeks. Don't just jump right in at 240 because like you said, your joints and other tissues might not be ready.
Yeah what he/she said.
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All different styles of training. What you're doing now falls into the muscular endurance arena (although the higher rep ranges can be useful in other styles occassionally) Decide if you want to train for mass, power or endurance. In the meantime, try taking your current 'routine' and bumping up the weight a little (don't try to max right away) dropping down to 10 reps while gradually continuing to bump up the weight until you hit about 20-22% more than what you could get 15-16 at (over the course of the next 2-3 weeks). You'll probably notice a difference. So for instance - if you're doing 200 lbs for 15 reps, you should be able to work up to 240 lbs (for 10 reps) over the course of the next several weeks. Don't just jump right in at 240 because like you said, your joints and other tissues might not be ready.
Thanks for the tips. Great info.
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Lets say you front squat your body weight supper setting that with dead lifting body weight. I find myself breathing pretty heavy after a few sets, I don't like alot of rest in between to keep the momentum. But man it's pretty hard sometimes anyone else noticed this or does my cardio need even more work? I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, if any. It seems that lung capacity puts a limit before muscle fatigue sometimes, anybody else have this happening?
this is the best to do for heart and lung capacity and overall mass movement ability. yes i find i cannot gasp enough air to keep going too , must be better vitamins to hold the oxygen better
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vitamin D.
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vitamin D.
interesting. Right before the workout?
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ive been hearing alot about vitamin d latley
even vitamin d3 from radiated mushrooms (not joke thats what they called )
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its in eggs, fish, leafy greens so you should be getting some that way ideally, if not, a supp will do it!
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i hear there is no toxicity levels of vitamin d, i feel sunlight while at work is quite nourishing to my tender heart
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squatting and deadlifts are the two excercises you should avoid if you don't want to breath heavily................
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That is stupid. Just do sets of 315x15 on squat and forget about deadlifting. Real man squat a lot and blow out their colons
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Ok. I never have heavy days though. In only do it like this, every time. I always do minimum 16 reps for legs. I always felt like I would get hurt when I try a really heavy squat. I cant seem to build much mass or get strong joints like a power lifter for some reason.
16 sets is way overkill. You can't build much mass because you don't have enough intensity. If you trained hard enough your legs couldn't handle anywhere near 16 sets.
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My body hurts just reading this.
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I read the first 5 posts and have concluded that "Rami" is clueless bout training.
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vitamin D.
interesting. Right before the workout?
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No correlation, but the latest recommendations on vitamin D are 1000 IU / day. Cod liver oil is an excellent source.
ive been hearing alot about vitamin d latley
even vitamin d3 from radiated mushrooms (not joke thats what they called )
Sounds like mushrooms grown next to Chernobyl ;D
Seriously though, I think you mean mushrooms exposed to UV light which is showing some real promise. They call it "irradiated".
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Yes, Mike Mentzer.
Thats the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. I love you dude.
Seriously, its true from a scientific standpoint, not because Mike said it.