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Dude i didnt like her at first...but i didnt listen to her..She is good. She is extremely factual...as a scientist..i appreciate that.
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Disagree. She is as sarcastic and arrogant as they come....and far from anything related to a moderate.
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Dude i didnt like her at first...but i didnt listen to her..She is good. She is extremely factual...as a scientist..i appreciate that.
Very intelligent woman who intimidates the repressed homosexuals and intellectually challenged members of our society.
I don't agree with her on several of policy views, but like her nonetheless.
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Disagree. She is as sarcastic and arrogant as they come....and far from anything related to a moderate.
She is sarcastic...but she gets very indepth when investegating something.
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Disagree. She is as sarcastic and arrogant as they come....and far from anything related to a moderate.
Aside from the personal flaws, which she certainly has...
Do you believe she is intelligent? Do you believe she delivers her facts?
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Aside from the personal flaws, which she certainly has...
Do you believe she is intelligent? Do you believe she delivers her facts?
No,I think she is the male version of Olbermann.A liar!!!
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She is like most of these political show hosts, they have a strong personality and see things through a biased lens.
From the times I have seen her, she seems of reasonable intelligence. There are smart people on both sides of U.S politics.
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No,I think she is the male version of Olbermann.A liar!!!
Very intelligent woman who intimidates...intellectu ally challenged members of our society.
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No,I think she is the male version of Olbermann.A liar!!!
Please list 5 of her lies.
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She delivers the facts and has good sources...
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Please list 5 of her lies.
I dont need to list 5 different lies SHE ,LIKE YOU,REPEATS THE SAME LIE FIFTY TIMES A WEEK.Rush Limbaugh IS NOT the head of the republican party.He holds no office,can make no law.So he isnt the head of the party,she claims he is over and over and over again.
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I dont need to list 5 different lies SHE ,LIKE YOU,REPEATS THE SAME LIE FIFTY TIMES A WEEK.Rush Limbaugh IS NOT the head of the republican party.He holds no office,can make no law.So he isnt the head of the party,she claims he is over and over and over again.
Defacto leader maybe ???
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Defacto leader maybe ???
This is a lie spewed by the loony left to try to marginalise the party.She never says Michael Moore is the leader of the democrat party.Never saw Rush sitting in the presidents area at a republican Convention,but I did see Moore sit at the democrat convention.
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Dude i didnt like her at first...but i didnt listen to her..She is good. She is extremely factual...as a scientist..i appreciate that.
yep, I've been saying that for months now.
she's also extremely fair and polite when interviewing people with opposing views
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Defacto leader maybe ???
not even close and mal youre to smart to fall for that liberal bull shit i expect it from 240.
Thats nothing more then another liberal tactic mal to smear reps limbaugh isnt any kind of leader of the reps any more so then olbeirman is for dems. Also the the reps need a leader bullshit that the libs keep pushing is simply so that have as much time as possible to tear down a possible 2012 candidate.
smarten up bro...
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Gee - I wonder how the right wingers on this board manage to stay so uniformed?
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not even close and mal youre to smart to fall for that liberal bull shit i expect it from 240.
Thats nothing more then another liberal tactic mal to smear reps limbaugh isnt any kind of leader of the reps any more so then olbeirman is for dems. Also the the reps need a leader bullshit that the libs keep pushing is simply so that have as much time as possible to tear down a possible 2012 candidate.
smarten up bro...
Im fuckin around...I know many repubs that say they wish limbah would shut up...and i didnt think it could get any worse and thats when beck goes to fox news...
Extreme sells
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Gee - I wonder how the right wingers on this board manage to stay so uniformed?
Yeah,the left is very informed.Still believe 911 was an inside job?Palins baby isnt hers?the stimulous is working?Yeah,you guys are brilliant.Must be because your one of the hundreads that listen to Maddow.
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Im fuckin around...I know many repubs that say they wish limbah would shut up...and i didnt think it could get any worse and thats when beck goes to fox news...
Extreme sells
ive never listened to rush my dad does and he is far to partisan for my liking, beck was good on CNN actually the first news show i started watching was his I cant watch him on fox though. Although everyonce in a while i will see a clip posted on here and I will agree with him the majority of the time he just sounds a tad crazy to me.
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Yeah,the left is very informed.Still believe 911 was an inside job?Palins baby isnt hers?the stimulous is working?Yeah,you guys are brilliant.Must be because your one of the hundreads that listen to Maddow.
where to start
meh...why even bother
keep on being dumb as a box of rocks
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Maddow is really a handsome guy...
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Maddow is really a handsome guy...
A cialis-viagra-extenz cocktail would not even do the job for me if Madcow was in front of me naked.
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jesus h christ...wtf...
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gyot daaaaaaaaaaaaamnnn she looks ugly
that thing has a vagina ???
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Please list 5 of her lies.
Here's one that I remember:
Maddow claimed that Governor Palin, in her speech at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night, claimed to have sold Alaska's private jet on eBay. She went on to claim that it was, in fact, untrue, because the jet did not sell on eBay. She explained that the Governor did indeed list the jet on eBay three times -- each with no sale -- before finally selling it to a broker of some sort for $2.1M. She then went on to say that Alaska paid $2.7M for the jet, and therefore Governor Palin's sale of the private jet actually cost Alaskan taxpayers money.
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where to start
meh...why even bother
keep on being dumb as a box of rocks
Keep listening to no talent,no ratings idiots,that are the laughing stock of the media world and are so irrelevant NO ONE mentions them ever.
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Keep listening to no talent,no ratings idiots,that are the laughing stock of the media world and are so irrelevant NO ONE mentions them ever.
You keep quoting ratings like that makes maddow inaccurate...dude master p went platinum...dosent mean it was of some substance
Glenn beck...he gets ratings because he is a train wreck.
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You keep quoting ratings like that makes maddow inaccurate...dude master p went platinum...dosent mean it was of some substance
Glenn beck...he gets ratings because he is a train wreck.
Actually Beck is very good and has been way ahead of everyone else reporting the facts and doings of this Admn.
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You keep quoting ratings like that makes maddow inaccurate...dude master p went platinum...dosent mean it was of some substance
Glenn beck...he gets ratings because he is a train wreck.
Glenn Beck is a train wreck who got that racist scum bag Van Jones out on his ass.So,a train wreck has more power then ANYONE on MSNBC.
Master P sells because people like him.Just because YOU dont doesnt mean dick.Thats the problem with libs.If they dont like something they say "it sucks".They feel they are the judge and jury.Sorry,the marketplace rules.
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Glenn Beck is a train wreck who got that racist scum bag Van Jones out on his ass.So,a train wreck has more power then ANYONE on MSNBC.
Master P sells because people like him.Just because YOU dont doesnt mean dick.Thats the problem with libs.If they dont like something they say "it sucks".They feel they are the judge and jury.Sorry,the marketplace rules.
yo chill...Master P sells because most people are idiots...which is the reason palin has such a backing...people are dumb and like other dumb people
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yo chill...Master P sells because most people are idiots...which is the reason palin has such a backing...people are dumb and like other dumb people
Again,YOU say they are dumb.Many people think ANY rap is dumb.A bunch of thugs.Many people think anyone who listens to Slayer is dumb.Some say only classical music has any value to it.
Who are YOU to judge?Naz,in my opinion is a dope.The Nappy Roots are dopes.Common is a dope.But if people like them,thats fine.THe marketplace rules.
Libs think they have the right to dictate whats smart.I think ANYONE that watches Olbermann is an idiot.The guy snorts like a retard after every sentance.He has been a ratings failure EVERYWHERE he has been.However,if people like him[obviously not many do according to his ratings]thats fine.Libs do that all the time.
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Again,YOU say they are dumb.Many people think ANY rap is dumb.A bunch of thugs.Many people think anyone who listens to Slayer is dumb.Some say only classical music has any value to it.
Who are YOU to judge?Naz,in my opinion is a dope.The Nappy Roots are dopes.Common is a dope.But if people like them,thats fine.THe marketplace rules.
Libs think they have the right to dictate whats smart.I think ANYONE that watches Olbermann is an idiot.The guy snorts like a retard after every sentance.He has been a ratings failure EVERYWHERE he has been.However,if people like him[obviously not many do according to his ratings]thats fine.Libs do that all the time.
no no no...cons like to dictate what people should do..abortion, gay marriage...shit that dont effect them at all...they want to regulate...
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Actually, they both like to tell us what to do. Conservatives are parental about social issues and Democrats are parental on economic and government issues. See the similarity in the difference?
Real economic conservatives give more freedom to people and to business, libs want to control everything including how to distribute... but a wise conservative does accept some reasonable gov regulation to protect the people from monopolies and excessive greed.
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Maddow probably does have some facts, so do the conservative hosts. The problem is that there are tons of facts on each side that can be used (or twisted) to justify hypotheses.
This is why groups like the CBO are so important...because they are impartial.
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no no no...cons like to dictate what people should do..abortion, gay marriage...shit that dont effect them at all...they want to regulate...
No its libs that want to tell people what to do,welfare,taxes,hate crimes,hate speech abortion[last time I checked murder was against the law].Libs want to regulate what you eat,what you say,what groups you can belong to.They even want to take away the right of free assembly as they label protestors with names like tea baggers and racists.
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as they label protestors with names like tea baggers and racists.
I remember the teabaggers giving themselves the name, when they mailed tea bags to their congressmen to protext. Only later when every mention of "tea bagger" was met with a smirk did they become tea PARTY members.
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I remember the teabaggers giving themselves the name, when they mailed tea bags to their congressmen to protext. Only later when every mention of "tea bagger" was met with a smirk did they become tea PARTY members.
That filthy dyke started that shit.What would I expect from a dirty carpet muncher though?Thats the libs way,the Sol alinski method of debate.
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First of all, she looks like Jason Bateman after a sex change.
Second of all, her entire show revolves around nuggets of so called news she decides to pluck out that either make the right look bad or that prop up her own personal ultra left wing agenda.
For example during the political riots in Iran, she led with Dick Cheney being tried for war crimes and the Mark Sanford fiasco.
She expresses a visceral hatred for Sarah Palin, the Bush administration and anything remotely related to the republican party. She never ever ever ever criticizes the left ( unless its those pesky "Blue Dog" democrats which she has a penchant for attacking) and is one of those ultra agressive homo's ala Perez Hilton.
I can't stand her program, I can't stand looking at her, and it's very easy to see why certain getbig members flock to her like a fly to shit.
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First of all, she looks like Jason Bateman after a sex change.
Second of all, her entire show revolves around nuggets of so called news she decides to pluck out that either make the right look bad or that prop up her own personal ultra left wing agenda.
For example during the political riots in Iran, she led with Dick Cheney being tried for war crimes and the Mark Sanford fiasco.
She expresses a visceral hatred for Sarah Palin, the Bush administration and anything remotely related to the republican party. She never ever ever ever criticizes the left ( unless its those pesky "Blue Dog" democrats which she has a penchant for attacking) and is one of those ultra agressive homo's ala Perez Hilton.
I can't stand her program, I can't stand looking at her, and it's very easy to see why certain getbig members flock to her like a fly to shit.
Do you like Glenn Beck?
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No.
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Here's one that I remember:
Maddow claimed that Governor Palin, in her speech at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night, claimed to have sold Alaska's private jet on eBay. She went on to claim that it was, in fact, untrue, because the jet did not sell on eBay. She explained that the Governor did indeed list the jet on eBay three times -- each with no sale -- before finally selling it to a broker of some sort for $2.1M. She then went on to say that Alaska paid $2.7M for the jet, and therefore Governor Palin's sale of the private jet actually cost Alaskan taxpayers money.
what part of that is untrue?
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what part of that is untrue?
Straw Man strikes again! Epic.
I don't understand all the hate... Maddow is a moderate.
It's America that is fucked up, you brand right-leaning centrists "liberals"; term far-right-wing jingoists "progressives" and affectionately term Nazis either "Republicans" or "Conservatives".
Maddow would be considered a pro-establishment centrist here in Europe.
Either way, I think she's strangely attractive; intelligent and articulate... bit bookish... bit boyish, but inescapably sexual... I'd let her stiffen my resolve (no homo!).
The Luke
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Straw Man strikes again! Epic.
I don't understand all the hate... Maddow is a moderate.
It's America that is fucked up, you brand right-leaning centrists "liberals"; term far-right-wing jingoists "progressives" and affectionately term Nazis either "Republicans" or "Conservatives".
Maddow would be considered a pro-establishment centrist here in Europe.
Either way, I think she's strangely attractive; intelligent and articulate... bit bookish... bit boyish, but inescapably sexual... I'd let her stiffen my resolve (no homo!).
The Luke
hahahaha i fuking knew it bottom twink....hahhahhahha
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Straw Man strikes again! Epic.
I don't understand all the hate... Maddow is a moderate.
It's America that is fucked up, you brand right-leaning centrists "liberals"; term far-right-wing jingoists "progressives" and affectionately term Nazis either "Republicans" or "Conservatives".
Maddow would be considered a pro-establishment centrist here in Europe.
Either way, I think she's strangely attractive; intelligent and articulate... bit bookish... bit boyish, but inescapably sexual... I'd let her stiffen my resolve (no homo!).
The Luke
At least our kids don't have to bring their own toilet paper to school with them
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At least our kids don't have to bring their own toilet paper to school with them
...don't get it?
The Luke
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hahahaha i fuking knew it bottom twink....hahhahhahha
I said "no homo".
The Luke
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Straw Man strikes again! Epic.
I don't understand all the hate... Maddow is a moderate.
It's America that is fucked up, you brand right-leaning centrists "liberals"; term far-right-wing jingoists "progressives" and affectionately term Nazis either "Republicans" or "Conservatives".
Maddow would be considered a pro-establishment centrist here in Europe.
Either way, I think she's strangely attractive; intelligent and articulate... bit bookish... bit boyish, but inescapably sexual... I'd let her stiffen my resolve (no homo!).
The Luke
No wonder you are so screwed up.
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what part of that is untrue?
Here's the FULL CONTENT of Gov. Palin's speech. Where in the speech do you see her saying that she SOLD THE JET? ??? ???
Mr. Chairman, delegates, and fellow citizens: I am honored to be considered for the nomination for Vice President of the United States…
I accept the call to help our nominee for president to serve and defend America.
I accept the challenge of a tough fight in this election… against confident opponents … at a crucial hour for our country.
And I accept the privilege of serving with a man who has come through much harder missions … and met far graver challenges … and knows how tough fights are won – the next president of the United States, John S. McCain. (Read More…)
It was just a year ago when all the experts in Washington counted out our nominee because he refused to hedge his commitment to the security of the country he loves.
With their usual certitude, they told us that all was lost – there was no hope for this candidate who said that he would rather lose an election than see his country lose a war.
But the pollsters and pundits overlooked just one thing when they wrote him off.
They overlooked the caliber of the man himself – the determination, resolve, and sheer guts of Senator John McCain. The voters knew better.
And maybe that’s because they realize there is a time for politics and a time for leadership … a time to campaign and a time to put our country first.
Our nominee for president is a true profile in courage, and people like that are hard to come by.
He’s a man who wore the uniform of this country for 22 years, and refused to break faith with those troops in Iraq who have now brought victory within sight.
And as the mother of one of those troops, that is exactly the kind of man I want as commander in chief. I’m just one of many moms who’ll say an extra prayer each night for our sons and daughters going into harm’s way.
Our son Track is 19.
And one week from tomorrow – September 11th – he’ll deploy to Iraq with the Army infantry in the service of his country.
My nephew Kasey also enlisted, and serves on a carrier in the Persian Gulf.
My family is proud of both of them and of all the fine men and women serving the country in uniform. Track is the eldest of our five children.
In our family, it’s two boys and three girls in between – my strong and kind-hearted daughters Bristol, Willow, and Piper.
And in April, my husband Todd and I welcomed our littlest one into the world, a perfectly beautiful baby boy named Trig. From the inside, no family ever seems typical.
That’s how it is with us.
Our family has the same ups and downs as any other … the same challenges and the same joys.
Sometimes even the greatest joys bring challenge.
And children with special needs inspire a special love.
To the families of special-needs children all across this country, I have a message: For years, you sought to make America a more welcoming place for your sons and daughters.
I pledge to you that if we are elected, you will have a friend and advocate in the White House. Todd is a story all by himself.
He’s a lifelong commercial fisherman … a production operator in the oil fields of Alaska’s North Slope … a proud member of the United Steel Workers’ Union … and world champion snow machine racer.
Throw in his Yup’ik Eskimo ancestry, and it all makes for quite a package.
We met in high school, and two decades and five children later he’s still my guy. My Mom and Dad both worked at the elementary school in our small town.
And among the many things I owe them is one simple lesson: that this is America, and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity.
My parents are here tonight, and I am so proud to be the daughter of Chuck and Sally Heath. Long ago, a young farmer and habber-dasher from Missouri followed an unlikely path to the vice presidency.
A writer observed: “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty, sincerity, and dignity.” I know just the kind of people that writer had in mind when he praised Harry Truman.
I grew up with those people.
They are the ones who do some of the hardest work in America … who grow our food, run our factories, and fight our wars.
They love their country, in good times and bad, and they’re always proud of America. I had the privilege of living most of my life in a small town.
I was just your average hockey mom, and signed up for the PTA because I wanted to make my kids’ public education better.
When I ran for city council, I didn’t need focus groups and voter profiles because I knew those voters, and knew their families, too.
Before I became governor of the great state of Alaska, I was mayor of my hometown.
And since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves.
I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a “community organizer,” except that you have actual responsibilities. I might add that in small towns, we don’t quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren’t listening.
We tend to prefer candidates who don’t talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco.
As for my running mate, you can be certain that wherever he goes, and whoever is listening, John McCain is the same man. I’m not a member of the permanent political establishment.< br>
And I’ve learned quickly, these past few days, that if you’re not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone.
But here’s a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I’m not going to Washington to seek their good opinion – I’m going to Washington to serve the people of this country. Americans expect us to go to Washington for the right reasons, and not just to mingle with the right people.
Politics isn’t just a game of clashing parties and competing interests.
The right reason is to challenge the status quo, to serve the common good, and to leave this nation better than we found it.
No one expects us to agree on everything.
But we are expected to govern with integrity, good will, clear convictions, and … a servant’s heart.
I pledge to all Americans that I will carry myself in this spirit as vice president of the United States. This was the spirit that brought me to the governor’s office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau … when I stood up to the special interests, the lobbyists, big oil companies, and the good-ol’ boys network.
Sudden and relentless reform never sits well with entrenched interests and power brokers. That’s why true reform is so hard to achieve.
But with the support of the citizens of Alaska, we shook things up.
And in short order we put the government of our state back on the side of the people.
I came to office promising major ethics reform, to end the culture of self-dealing. And today, that ethics reform is the law.
While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor’s office that I didn’t believe our citizens should have to pay for.
That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.
I also drive myself to work.
And I thought we could muddle through without the governor’s personal chef – although I’ve got to admit that sometimes my kids sure miss her. I came to office promising to control spending – by request if possible and by veto if necessary.
Senator McCain also promises to use the power of veto in defense of the public interest – and as a chief executive, I can assure you it works.
Our state budget is under control.
We have a surplus.
And I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending: nearly half a billion dollars in vetoes.
I suspended the state fuel tax, and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress.
I told the Congress “thanks, but no thanks,” for that Bridge to Nowhere.
If our state wanted a bridge, we’d build it ourselves. When oil and gas prices went up dramatically, and filled up the state treasury, I sent a large share of that revenue back where it belonged – directly to the people of Alaska.
And despite fierce opposition from oil company lobbyists, who kind of liked things the way they were, we broke their monopoly on power and resources.
As governor, I insisted on competition and basic fairness to end their control of our state and return it to the people.
I fought to bring about the largest private-sector infrastructure project in North American history.
And when that deal was struck, we began a nearly forty billion dollar natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence.
That pipeline, when the last section is laid and its valves are opened, will lead America one step farther away from dependence on dangerous foreign powers that do not have our interests at heart.
The stakes for our nation could not be higher.
When a hurricane strikes in the Gulf of Mexico, this country should not be so dependent on imported oil that we are forced to draw from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
And families cannot throw away more and more of their paychecks on gas and heating oil.
With Russia wanting to control a vital pipeline in the Caucasus, and to divide and intimidate our European allies by using energy as a weapon, we cannot leave ourselves at the mercy of foreign suppliers.
To confront the threat that Iran might seek to cut off nearly a fifth of world energy supplies … or that terrorists might strike again at the Abqaiq facility in Saudi Arabia … or that Venezuela might shut off its oil deliveries … we Americans need to produce more of our own oil and gas.
And take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska: we’ve got lots of both.
Our opponents say, again and again, that drilling will not solve all of America’s energy problems – as if we all didn’t know that already.
But the fact that drilling won’t solve every problem is no excuse to do nothing at all.
Starting in January, in a McCain-Palin administration, we’re going to lay more pipelines … build more new-clear plants … create jobs with clean coal … and move forward on solar, wind, geothermal, and other alternative sources.
We need American energy resources, brought to you by American ingenuity, and produced by American workers. I’ve noticed a pattern with our opponent.
Maybe you have, too.
We’ve all heard his dramatic speeches before devoted followers.
And there is much to like and admire about our opponent.
But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform – not even in the state senate.
This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word “victory” except when he’s talking about his own campaign. But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed … when the roar of the crowd fades away … when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot – what exactly is our opponent’s plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he’s done turning back the waters and healing the planet? The answer is to make government bigger … take more of your money … give you more orders from Washington … and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world. America needs more energy … our opponent is against producing it.
Victory in Iraq is finally in sight … he wants to forfeit.
Terrorist states are seeking new-clear weapons without delay … he wants to meet them without preconditions.
Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America … he’s worried that someone won’t read them their rights? Government is too big … he wants to grow it.
Congress spends too much … he promises more.
Taxes are too high … he wants to raise them. His tax increases are the fine print in his economic plan, and let me be specific.
The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes … raise payroll taxes … raise investment income taxes … raise the death tax … raise business taxes … and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars. My sister Heather and her husband have just built a service station that’s now opened for business – like millions of others who run small businesses.
How are they going to be any better off if taxes go up? Or maybe you’re trying to keep your job at a plant in Michigan or Ohio … or create jobs with clean coal from Pennsylvania or West Virginia … or keep a small farm in the family right here in Minnesota.
How are you going to be better off if our opponent adds a massive tax burden to the American economy? Here’s how I look at the choice Americans face in this election.
In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers.
And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.
They’re the ones whose names appear on laws and landmark reforms, not just on buttons and banners, or on self-designed presidential seals.
Among politicians, there is the idealism of high-flown speechmaking, in which crowds are stirringly summoned to support great things.
And then there is the idealism of those leaders, like John McCain, who actually do great things. They’re the ones who are good for more than talk … the ones we have always been able to count on to serve and defend America. Senator McCain’s record of actual achievement and reform helps explain why so many special interests, lobbyists, and comfortable committee chairmen in Congress have fought the prospect of a McCain presidency – from the primary election of 2000 to this very day.
Our nominee doesn’t run with the Washington herd.
He’s a man who’s there to serve his country, and not just his party.
A leader who’s not looking for a fight, but is not afraid of one either. Harry Reid, the Majority Leader of the current do-nothing Senate, not long ago summed up his feelings about our nominee.
He said, quote, “I can’t stand John McCain.” Ladies and gentlemen, perhaps no accolade we hear this week is better proof that we’ve chosen the right man. Clearly what the Majority Leader was driving at is that he can’t stand up to John McCain. That is only one more reason to take the maverick of the Senate and put him in the White House. My fellow citizens, the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of “personal discovery.” This world of threats and dangers is not just a community, and it doesn’t just need an organizer.
And though both Senator Obama and Senator Biden have been going on lately about how they are always, quote, “fighting for you,” let us face the matter squarely.
There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you … in places where winning means survival and defeat means death … and that man is John McCain. In our day, politicians have readily shared much lesser tales of adversity than the nightmare world in which this man, and others equally brave, served and suffered for their country.
It’s a long way from the fear and pain and squalor of a six-by-four cell in Hanoi to the Oval Office.
But if Senator McCain is elected president, that is the journey he will have made.
It’s the journey of an upright and honorable man – the kind of fellow whose name you will find on war memorials in small towns across this country, only he was among those who came home.
To the most powerful office on earth, he would bring the compassion that comes from having once been powerless … the wisdom that comes even to the captives, by the grace of God … the special confidence of those who have seen evil, and seen how evil is overcome. A fellow prisoner of war, a man named Tom Moe of Lancaster, Ohio, recalls looking through a pin-hole in his cell door as Lieutenant Commander John McCain was led down the hallway, by the guards, day after day.
As the story is told, “When McCain shuffled back from torturous interrogations, he would turn toward Moe’s door and flash a grin and thumbs up” – as if to say, “We’re going to pull through this.” My fellow Americans, that is the kind of man America needs to see us through these next four years.
For a season, a gifted speaker can inspire with his words.
For a lifetime, John McCain has inspired with his deeds.
If character is the measure in this election … and hope the theme … and change the goal we share, then I ask you to join our cause. Join our cause and help America elect a great man as the next president of the United States.
Thank you all, and may God bless America.
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Want more proof? Watch and LISTEN to the speech. I didn't hear, "I SOLD it on eBay".
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what part of that is untrue?
And finally....
That statement, in fact, is true. In fact, by Rachel Maddow's own admission, Governor Palin "put" the jet on eBay three times. More importantly, when the jet failed to sell on eBay, rather than give up, she found a buyer to take the unneeded property off the state books.
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It's interesting that far left liberal women absolutely can't stand women like palin or bachman. Women can be the most catty and hateful people and I've seen it more with liberal women than conservative ones (Ann Coulteur as the exception).
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It's interesting that far left liberal women absolutely can't stand women like palin or bachman. Women can be the most catty and hateful people and I've seen it more with liberal women than conservative ones (Ann Coulteur as the exception).
you're right on the money, bro!
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Left wing Liberals talk about tolerance and acceptance until it's someone who disagrees with them. They are some of the most sarcastic and arrogant people I have seen.
Far right religious conservatives aren't at all tolerant either...but at least most of them realize it, and at least you don't get that elitist arrogance.
I don't like either of those camps...just making a point.
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It's interesting that far left liberal women absolutely can't stand women like palin or bachman. Women can be the most catty and hateful people and I've seen it more with liberal women than conservative ones (Ann Coulteur as the exception).
Because they are better looking then the women on the left.When your left with fat ass Hillary,tranny Michelle,bug eyed Pelosi,I mean thats quite a kennel there.
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And finally....
That statement, in fact, is true. In fact, by Rachel Maddow's own admission, Governor Palin "put" the jet on eBay three times. More importantly, when the jet failed to sell on eBay, rather than give up, she found a buyer to take the unneeded property off the state books.
since you have Palins speech why don't you also show us Maddow's actual quote rather than your paraphrase of her quote.
When you read or hear the Palin quote she is giving the impression (intentional or not) that she sold the jet on Ebay. I'm sure most people hearing that would assume she was saying she "got rid of it" on EBay. Why even mention putting it on EBay if it didn't work? Maybe it Palin's intent was not to be misleading and maybe she is just a bad communicator.
Either way, post speech the pundits do their thing and talk about the speech. Maddow was obviously filling in the omission and pointing out that Palin did not in fact actually sell the jet on Ebay.
If you only heard the speech you would come away with the impression that she sold the thing on Ebay and in fact one of my neighbors who only watches Fox news told me that very "fact" after the speech.
I'm going to take back my earlier suggestion that maybe this poor choice of words was not intentional. I believe Palin's intent was to mislead. From everything we've seen from her since she has proven she has no problem lying or being misleading. Why would you talk about getting rid of things in one sentence and then in the next sentence say you put something on Ebay and leave out the salient fact that you didn't actually sell it on EBay. It's not Palin's fault if people who hear that get the wrong impression.....right?
While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor’s office that I didn’t believe our citizens should have to pay for.
That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.
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since you have Palins speech why don't you also show us Maddow's actual quote rather than your paraphrase of her quote.
When you read or hear the Palin quote she is giving the impression (intentional or not) that she sold the jet on Ebay. I'm sure most people hearing that would assume she was saying she "got rid of it" on EBay. Why even mention putting it on EBay if it didn't work? Maybe it Palin's intent was not to be misleading and maybe she is just a bad communicator.
Either way, post speech the pundits do their thing and talk about the speech. Maddow was obviously filling in the omission and pointing out that Palin did not in fact actually sell the jet on Ebay.
If you only heard the speech you would come away with the impression that she sold the thing on Ebay and in fact one of my neighbors who only watches Fox news told me that very "fact" after the speech.
I'm going to take back my earlier suggestion that maybe this poor choice of words was not intentional. I believe Palin's intent was to mislead. From everything we've seen from her since she has proven she has no problem lying or being misleading. Why would you talk about getting rid of things in one sentence and then in the next sentence say you put something on Ebay and leave out the salient fact that you didn't actually sell it on EBay. It's not Palin's fault if people who hear that get the wrong impression.....right?
nice try, bro. "A" for effort.
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nice try, bro. "A" for effort.
how about finding Maddow's quote rather than your paraphrase of what she said.
For all we know she was quite clear in saying that Palin seems to be suggesting she sold the plane on Ebay when in fact she didn't sell it on EBAy.
I wonder why Palin didn't make that more clear herself.
Original Quote:
While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor’s office that I didn’t believe our citizens should have to pay for.
That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.
A more clear explanation:
While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor’s office that I didn’t believe our citizens should have to pay for.
That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay but unfortunately I couldn't sell it there and had to go through a broker and ultimately sold it at a loss to the state
or even better just leave out EBay entirely
While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor’s office that I didn’t believe our citizens should have to pay for.
That luxury jet was over the top and I sold it
Maddow was correct in clarifying that Palin didn't actually sell it on EBay (as one might conclude from only hearing Palins quote) and in fact failed to sell it on EBay and eventually used a broker and sold it at a loss. Those are facts.
Your statement that Maddow said that Palin said she sold it on EBay is unproven unless you can show me Maddows actual quote and not your paraphrase.
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LOL
Some of our less enlightened members should start a support group for themselves entitled "The Patron Saints of lost and meaningless causes, debunked conspiracy theories, losing arguments, and moronic observations."
The Luke and 240 can be the founding members ( we dont want to call them founding fathers because that would imply sexism). Jag and straw can be chapter presidents. Slapper and Mons can be recruiters.
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LOL
Some of our less enlightened members should start a support group for themselves entitled "The Patron Saints of lost and meaningless causes, debunked conspiracy theories, losing arguments, and moronic observations."
The Luke and 240 can be the founding members ( we dont want to call them founding fathers because that would imply sexism). Jag and straw can be chapter presidents. Slapper and Mons can be recruiters.
You're right this is a lame tangent. Who cares about a misleading comment from a failed politician.