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Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize to mixed reviews
Fri Oct 9, 2009 8:01am EDT
By Wojciech Moskwa
OSLO (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for giving the world "hope for a better future" and striving for nuclear disarmament, in a surprise award that drew both warm praise and sharp criticism.
The decision to bestow one of the world's top accolades on a president less than nine months into his first term, who has yet to score a major foreign policy success, was greeted with gasps of astonishment from journalists at the announcement in Oslo.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee praised Obama for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." But critics -- especially in parts of the Arab and Muslim world -- called its decision premature.
Obama's press secretary woke him with the news before dawn and the president felt "humbled" by the award, a senior administration official said.
When told in an email from Reuters that many people around the world were stunned by the announcement, Obama's senior adviser, David Axelrod, responded: "As are we."
The first African-American to hold his country's highest office, Obama, 48, has called for disarmament and worked to restart the stalled Middle East peace process since taking office in January.
"Very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said in a citation.
While the decision won praise from statesmen like Nelson Mandela and Mikhail Gorbachev, both former Nobel laureates, it was also attacked in some quarters as hasty and undeserved.
The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip and opposes a peace treaty with Israel, said the award was premature at best.
"Obama has a long way to go still and lots of work to do before he can deserve a reward," said Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri. "Obama only made promises and did not contribute any substance to world peace. And he has not done anything to ensure justice for the sake of Arab and Muslim causes."
"EMBARRASSING JOKE"
Issam al-Khazraji, a day laborer in Baghdad, said: "He doesn't deserve this prize. All these problems -- Iraq, Afghanistan -- have not been solved...The man of 'change' hasn't changed anything yet."
Liaqat Baluch, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a conservative religious party in Pakistan, called the award an embarrassing "joke."
But the chief Palestinian peace negotiator, Saeb Erekat, welcomed it and expressed hope that Obama "will be able to achieve peace in the Middle East."
Nobel Committee Chairman Thorbjoern Jagland rejected suggestions from journalists that Obama was getting the prize too early, saying it recognized what he had already done over the past year.
"We hope this can contribute a little bit to enhance what he is trying to do," he told a news conference.
The committee said it attached "special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons," saying he had "created a new climate in international politics."
Without naming Obama's predecessor George W. Bush, it highlighted the differences in America's engagement with the rest of the world since the change of administration in January.
"Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play.
"Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts," it said, and the United States was playing a more constructive role in tackling climate change.
Obama laid out his vision on eliminating nuclear arms in a speech in Prague in April. But he was not the first American president to set that goal, and acknowledged it might not be reached in his lifetime.
He is negotiating arms cuts with Russia, and last month dropped plans to base elements of a U.S. anti-missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic. Moscow had seen the scheme as a threat, despite U.S. assurances it was directed against Iran.
On other pressing issues, Obama is deliberating whether to send more troops to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan, and is still searching for breakthroughs on Iran's disputed nuclear program and on Middle East peace.
Israel's foreign minister said on Thursday there was no chance of a peace deal for many years. Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters: "The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won 'the Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'."
At home, Obama's popularity is flagging under the pressure of rising unemployment and a divisive, sometimes bitter debate over his healthcare reform plans.
Abroad, he is still widely seen around the world as an inspirational figure.
Zimbabwean Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, who had been tipped as a favorite for the prize, told Reuters that Obama was a deserving candidate and an "extraordinary example."
Obama's uncle Said Obama told Reuters by telephone from the president's ancestral village of Kogelo in western Kenya: "It is humbling for us as a family and we share in Barack's honor... we congratulate him."
Obama is the third senior U.S. Democrat to win the prize this decade after former Vice President Al Gore won in 2007 along with the U.N. climate panel and Jimmy Carter in 2002.
The prize worth 10 million Swedish crowns ($1.4 million) will be handed over in Oslo on December 10.
(Additional reporting by Oslo newsroom, Kamran Haider in Pakistan, Mohammed Assadi, Nidal al-Mughrabi in Gaza; Mark Denge in Nairobi, Jason Webb in Spain; writing by Mark Trevelyan, editing by Janet McBride)
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This is like a never ending horror movie.
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Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
(Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images)
President Obama: soon to make a decision on Afghanistan troop surge
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867711.ece#
Michael Binyon
The award of this year’s Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably deep embarrassment by the President himself.
Rarely has an award had such an obvious political and partisan intent. It was clearly seen by the Norwegian Nobel committee as a way of expressing European gratitude for an end to the Bush Administration, approval for the election of America’s first black president and hope that Washington will honour its promise to re-engage with the world.
Instead, the prize risks looking preposterous in its claims, patronising in its intentions and demeaning in its attempt to build up a man who has barely begun his period in office, let alone achieved any tangible outcome for peace.
The pretext for the prize was Mr Obama’s decision to “strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”. Many people will point out that, while the President has indeed promised to “reset” relations with Russia and offer a fresh start to relations with the Muslim world, there is little so far to show for his fine words.
East-West relations are little better than they were six months ago, and any change is probably due largely to the global economic downturn; and America’s vaunted determination to re-engage with the Muslim world has failed to make any concrete progress towards ending the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
There is a further irony in offering a peace prize to a president whose principal preoccupation at the moment is when and how to expand the war in Afghanistan.
The spectacle of Mr Obama mounting the podium in Oslo to accept a prize that once went to Nelson Mandela, Aung San Suu Kyi and Mother Theresa would be all the more absurd if it follows a White House decision to send up to 40,000 more US troops to Afghanistan. However just such a war may be deemed in Western eyes, Muslims would not be the only group to complain that peace is hardly compatible with an escalation in hostilities.
The Nobel committee has made controversial awards before. Some have appeared to reward hope rather than achievement: the 1976 prize for the two peace campaigners in Northern Ireland, Betty Williams and Mairead Corrigan, was clearly intended to send a signal to the two battling communities in Ulster. But the political influence of the two winners turned out, sadly, to be negligible.
In the Middle East, the award to Menachem Begin of Israel and Anwar Sadat of Egypt in 1978 also looks, in retrospect, as naive as the later award to Yassir Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin — although it could be argued that both the Camp David and Oslo accords, while not bringing peace, were at least attempts to break the deadlock.
Mr Obama’s prize is more likely, however, to be compared with the most contentious prize of all: the 1973 prize to Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho for their negotiations to end the Vietnam war. Dr Kissinger was branded a warmonger for his support for the bombing campaign in Cambodia; and the Vietnamese negotiator was subsequently seen as a liar whose government never intended to honour a peace deal but was waiting for the moment to attack South Vietnam.
Mr Obama becomes the third sitting US President to receive the prize. The committee said today that he had “captured the world’s attention”. It is certainly true that his energy and aspirations have dazzled many of his supporters. Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all previous winners have been diminished
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Its funny, the rest of the world is waking up to this joke in the WH. Yet, we have Kool Aide and the Gang who will probably rub a few out on this news.
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The prize was a joke when Gore won for a documentary. Now it's just pathetic. I'm not all that shocked though. It's the epitome of lib thinking: Give a reward, not for accomplishment, but for saying what you would like to accomplish.
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Its funny, the rest of the world is waking up to this joke in the WH. Yet, we have Kool Aide and the Gang who will probably rub a few out on this news.
I think we're really going to have a laugh if people on the board try to justify this nonsense. What are the odds of Barry doing the right thing and declining the award, admitting he has no contributions to peace, and few accomplishments?
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... It's the epitome of lib thinking: Give a reward, not for accomplishment, but for saying what you would like to accomplish.
Yes, righty thinking is so much better. Better to lie to people and take us into a trumped up war resulting in the needless death of several thousand troops and nearly bankrupting the country in the process. :(
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Yes, righty thinking is so much better. Better to lie to people and take us into a trumped up war resulting in the needless death of several thousand troops and nearly bankrupting the country in the process. :(
This is such a joke. As every day passes I really understand how the Jim jones thing happened.
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.... As every day passes I really understand how the Jim jones thing happened.
Too bad you can't understand how the Iraq War thing happened.
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Too bad you can't understand how the Iraq War thing happened.
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Yes, righty thinking is so much better. Better to lie to people and take us into a trumped up war resulting in the needless death of several thousand troops and nearly bankrupting the country in the process. :(
Yeah, pointing out one wrong to justify another wrong. More great thinking from the left.
Do you feel he earned this award?
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Yeah, pointing out one wrong to justify another wrong. More great thinking from the left.
Do you feel he earned this award?
This is going to be hysterical today watching Kool Aide & Gang have a circle jerk over this.
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Of course he earned it!
Look at how he transformed the once violent city of Chicago into a model utopia.
Obama was very calm and peaceful after a honor student was beaten to death in the street like a dog. ::)
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LOLOL at the self portrait.
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I voted for Obama and wish his presidency the very best, but I believe the awarding of this prize is hopelessly premature and therefore inappropriate.
When Yasser Arafat won, I was unsettled. This has a similar feel. :-\
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Why would you feel uncomfrtable? He is God remember?
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OMFG
Someone told me that the deadline for submitting the application for recieving the award was TWO weeks after Obama took office.
The fix was definetly in. What a load of complete horseshit.
I dislike Obama's politics but until now, I felt that he was a likeable person. Now, I cannot fucking stand him.
The faster this schmuck gets out of office the better.
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I would think even the Obama supporters would see what a complete joke and mockery this really is.
This disgusting behavior has got to end soon. It was funny for a while but now it's just getting pathetic and dangerous.
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Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters: "The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won 'the Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'."
333386, I can't believe you highlighted this, as if it is representative of a rational thought. These guys kill civilians all day, every day. Any violence that has 'escalated' has been them planting more pressure plate/ indiscrimante IEDs and sending car bombers all over Afghanistan to blow up dozens of civilians in order to (maybe) kill soldiers.
This I have seen with my own eyes and it terrifies me everyday.
I knew you were going to have an atomic meltdown over Obama getting this, but this is just pure crap.
You're putting politics before all else. You should be ashamed of it.
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Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters: "The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won 'the Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'."
333386, I can't believe you highlighted this, as if it is representative of a rational thought. These guys kill civilians all day, every day. Any violence that has 'escalated' has been them planting more pressure plate/ indiscrimante IEDs and sending car bombers all over Afghanistan to blow up dozens of civilians in order to (maybe) kill soldiers.
This I have seen with my own eyes and it terrifies me everyday.
I knew you were going to have an atomic meltdown over Obama getting this, but this is just pure crap.
You're putting politics before all else. You should be ashamed of it.
You take it the wrong way. I highlighted it because it shows that those vermin are not interested in peace of any sort and are laughing at any gestures of so called "peace".
If it were up to me, I would be carpet bombing those scum bags daily.
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How will this affect his approval ratings?
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There have been 2 previous winners that have declined the prize. Obama should follow suit. Help set an example. Deeds above words...
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There have been 2 previous winners that have declined the prize. Obama should follow suit. Help set an example. Deeds above words...
I'm betting he takes it.
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I'm betting he takes it.
And the $1.4 million dollars. Michelle needs a new pair of ugly sneakers.
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I'm betting he takes it.
Do you feel he's earned it?
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And the $1.4 million dollars. Michelle needs a new pair of ugly sneakers.
would you turn down 1.4 million, dude?
LOL... I wqouldn't care if NAMBLA made me their man of the year. I'd call them them a bunch of sick pedos right after I cashed that paycheck.
I dont see what Obama has done to warrant winning this - but then again I don't understand the level of changes he's made in terms of nuclear proliferation.
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Yes, righty thinking is so much better. Better to lie to people and take us into a trumped up war resulting in the needless death of several thousand troops and nearly bankrupting the country in the process. :(
WTF!?, is this some kind of liberal disease? Every fucking time something happens you have to try to quantify it by comparing it to what someone else did, even if it is completely fucking irrelevant to the topic at hand. Did Bush get awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? No, then what does it have to do with the current POTUS getting this, when the nomination deadline was 2 weeks into his term? What should I expect, the Nobel peace prize became a mockery when Arafat was awarded it.
This is like winning an Oscar even though you've never made a movie
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would you turn down 1.4 million, dude?
LOL... I wqouldn't care if NAMBLA made me their man of the year. I'd call them them a bunch of sick pedos right after I cashed that paycheck.
I dont see what Obama has done to warrant winning this - but then again I don't understand the level of changes he's made in terms of nuclear proliferation.
Michelle wont let him turn down the $1.4 mill. She has that money spent already on obscene clothing, handbags, etc.
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Obama's already a wealthy man. He should do the right thing and turn it down.
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Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize In Less Than Two Weeks
http://www.radioviceonline.com ^ | October 9, 2009 | Steve McGough
Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21:23 AM by Biggirl
Unbelievable, just unbelievable.
The nominations were due to the committee on Feb. 1, and the president took office on Jan. 20. Did our president do enough for world peace in 264 hours to deserve even nomination let alone the win the award?
I guess he can check this one off the bucket list. From Breitbart…
(Excerpt) Read more at radioviceonline.com ...
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Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters: "The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won 'the Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'."
333386, I can't believe you highlighted this, as if it is representative of a rational thought. These guys kill civilians all day, every day. Any violence that has 'escalated' has been them planting more pressure plate/ indiscrimante IEDs and sending car bombers all over Afghanistan to blow up dozens of civilians in order to (maybe) kill soldiers.
This I have seen with my own eyes and it terrifies me everyday.
I knew you were going to have an atomic meltdown over Obama getting this, but this is just pure crap.
You're putting politics before all else. You should be ashamed of it.
look who's quote he used for the title of his thread:
Liaqat Baluch, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a conservative religious party in Pakistan, called the award an embarrassing "joke."
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look who's quote he used for the title of his thread:
Liaqat Baluch, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a conservative religious party in Pakistan, called the award an embarrassing "joke."
I posted the Time UK article and they shared the same exact sentiments.
Congratulations on being the 1st idiot to defend this nonsense.
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The damm Taliban thought it was a joke....I am now agreeing with the Taliban..this is what barry has driven us to...agreeing with the Taliban.
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The damm Taliban thought it was a joke....I am now agreeing with the Taliban..this is what barry has driven us to...agreeing with the Taliban.
Barry did say that the Taliban will have a role in Afghans future ruling party as far as politics go yesterday.
I dont know why they are bitching.
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I posted the Time UK article and they shared the same exact sentiments.
Congratulations on being the 1st idiot to defend this nonsense.
Why should I give a shit if it came from the Time UK (you're aware it's owned by Rupert Murdoch right?)
Why should I give a shit what a conservative religious leader in Pakistan thinks?
I don't even care what conservative religious leaders in this company think
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The damm Taliban thought it was a joke....I am now agreeing with the Taliban..this is what barry has driven us to...agreeing with the Taliban.
LOLOLOL...It is funny to find myself agreeing with the Taliban.
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I honestly cannot understand why any citizen of the US would be critical of their own President winning the Nobel Peace Prize
I didn't realize our resident right wing Obama haters were such radical pacifists
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A week ago the Repubs were blaming Obama for losing the Olympics and literally cheering that America lost
This week Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize and they still shit on him
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He has done nothing Straw...nothing. We are not leaving Iraq any quicker and the deal to leave originally leave was done by Bush. We may stay longer. We are not leaving Afghanistan and are sending between 20-40K more guys. The Israeli's said peace is years away, yesterday. Gitmo is still going strong as is rendition. JSOC is still wacking people world wide under the same SOP as was developed under GWB. He got this prize for nothing. I hate Barry...he's destroying my country economically and weaknening us abroard.
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I honestly cannot understand why any citizen of the US would be critical of their own President winning the Nobel Peace Prize
I didn't realize our resident right wing Obama haters were such radical pacifists
Uhh...maybe because the prize should be legitimately EARNED.
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He has done nothing Straw...nothing. We are not leaving Iraq any quicker and the deal to leave originally leave was done by Bush. We may stay longer. We are not leaving Afghanistan and are sending between 20-40K more guys. The Israeli's said peace is years away, yesterday. Gitmo is still going strong as is rendition. JSOC is still wacking people world wide under the same SOP as was developed under GWB. He got this prize for nothing. I hate Barry...he's destroying my country economically and weaknening us abroard.
so you're saying Bush weakend us abroad
If so, I agree
You hated Bush too right?
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Uhh...maybe because the prize should be legitimately EARNED.
The only opinions that matter on this topic are those of the Norwegian Nobel Committee
They're the group awarding the prize and they obviously think he deserved it.
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The only opinions that matter on this topic are those of the Norwegian Nobel Committee
They're the group awarding the prize and they obviously think he deserved it.
Marxist-in-Chief is in good company with Arafat & Jimmy Carter.
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Of course he earned it!
Look at how he transformed the once violent city of Chicago into a model utopia.
Obama was very calm and peaceful after a honor student was beaten to death in the street like a dog. ::)
Simply stunning. ::)
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Who knew a beer summit could present such a powerful image of peace
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The only opinions that matter on this topic are those of the Norwegian Nobel Committee
They're the group awarding the prize and they obviously think he deserved it.
Nobody's questioning their right to award the prize to whomever. Try and keep up Straw Man. That doesn't mean we're not allowed to have our own opinions.
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Nobody's questioning their right to award the prize to whomever. Try and keep up Straw Man. That doesn't mean we're not allowed to have our own opinions.
your opinion is irrelevent
as is mine
I don't understand US Citizens who shit on their own President for winning a friggin peace prize
I just don't get it
last week the same group of America haters were personally blaming him for losing the Olympics and literally cheering his alleged failure and now they shit on him for winning the Nobel Prize
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So far we've heard this and that and somehow Iraq got mixed in, GW sucks, prize committee can do whatever the fuck it wants... Still waiting to hear what Obama's accomplishments are that earned a Nobel Peace Prize.
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So far we've heard this and that and somehow Iraq got mixed in, GW sucks, prize committee can do whatever the fuck it wants... Still waiting to hear what Obama's accomplishments are that earned a Nobel Peace Prize.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it gave the prize to Obama for his "efforts to strengthen international diplomacy," his "vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons" and for inspiring hope and creating "a new climate in international politics."
It's there prize and that's good enough for me
I'm just happy for my President and my country
you clearly have a strong opinion on this topic so why don't you tell me who should have won and why
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Beer Summit ;D
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So far we've heard this and that and somehow Iraq got mixed in, GW sucks, prize committee can do whatever the fuck it wants... Still waiting to hear what Obama's accomplishments are that earned a Nobel Peace Prize.
excessive liberal spending under the guise of "no pork" anybody remember that one? ya that was a good one
cap and trade...who cares that it looks to raise everyones rates
there will be no surge in afghanistan now future accomplishment...who care the generals say we need it Europe says they dont want it.
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Beer Summit ;D
oh yes who could forget the weighing in on an issue without knowing the facts and then bringing the parties together in an awkward photo op?
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Beer Summit ;D
it couldn't have been that
Obama drank a Bud Light
and who only drinks one beer?
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I don't think people are trashing Obama.
They are trashing the absolute absurdity of the Nobel prize committee.
This all started with Carter winning in 2002 continues with Gore in 2008.
This just tops it.
This isn't the only place where this happens though.
Liberal guilt is everywhere. Slumdog winning an Academy Award for movie of the year.
Sean Penn winning an academy award for Milk.
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The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it gave the prize to Obama for his "efforts to strengthen international diplomacy," his "vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons" and for inspiring hope and creating "a new climate in international politics."
It's there prize and that's good enough for me
I'm just happy for my President and my country
you clearly have a strong opinion on this topic so why don't you tell me who should have won and why
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The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it gave the prize to Obama for his "efforts to strengthen international diplomacy," his "vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons" and for inspiring hope and creating "a new climate in international politics."
It's there prize and that's good enough for me
I'm just happy for my President and my country
you clearly have a strong opinion on this topic so why don't you tell me who should have won and why
How about anybody who has actually accomplished something towards peace and humanitarian values.
How about somebody like Greg Mortenson?
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Just came across this.
Even the times agrees with me.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1929433,00.html
Obama's Award — for Not Being George W. Bush
The NPNBGWB was first established in 2002, when the Nobel Committee awarded its peace prize to former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, ostensibly for monitoring elections in far-flung hellholes, but really for being the most prominent American critic of then-President Bush's buildup to a war in Iraq.
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'Obama's Award — for Not Being George W. Bush'
Sounds pretty accurate.
Still, it can't hurt him politically, and will probably help a bit.
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'Obama's Award — for Not Being George W. Bush'
Sounds pretty accurate.
Still, it can't hurt him politically, and will probably help a bit.
It sure will,
But do you really want a foreign power interfering with your domestic politics.
other then the Saudi's and China of course.
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How about anybody who has actually accomplished something towards peace and humanitarian values.
How about somebody like Greg Mortenson?
I can't argue with that
he was nominated this year
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I can't argue with that
he was nominated this year
the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks after his presidency began straw seriously you cant really believe he deserves this?
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the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks after his presidency began straw seriously you cant really believe he deserves this?
I truly don't fucking care if he deserves it or not
I haven't made an in depth study of the candidates, criteria etc..
I'm happy for my President and my Country
Other than that, I care more about the shit I have to take care of today at work.
What I don't get is the immediate shitting on Obama from US Cititizens for something that is an honor
Again, last week people blamed Obama for losing the Olympics and actually cheered
this week that shit on him for winning the Nobel Prize
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I truly don't fucking care if he deserves it or not
I haven't made an in depth study of the candidates, criteria etc..
I'm happy for my President and my Country
Other than that, I care more about the shit I have to take care of today at work.
What I don't get is the immediate shitting on Obama from US Cititizens for something that is an honor
Again, last week people blamed Obama for losing the Olympics and actually cheered
this week that shit on him for winning the Nobel Prize
it would be an honor if he actually deserved it straw as it is now its simply a disgrace
would you have been happy if bush had won it?
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Wow... FOX news is all about robots blowing up suspicious packages outside Panera bread in california and high speed freeway chases today.
odd they're not talking about the nobel all that much.
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HAHAHA look at the right wing meltdown. Agreeing with Taliban, basically sh*tting on their own country. Hey HH6 you agree with people trying to kill you huh? What an embarrassment of human beings you all are. Agreeing with the Taliban. What's next voting for al-queda? Defecating on the 9/11 site? You may as well be doing that you unamerican pieces of sh*t.
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it would be an honor if he actually deserved it straw as it is now its simply a disgrace
would you have been happy if bush had won it?
This whole train wreck is hysterical.
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Wow... FOX news is all about robots blowing up suspicious packages outside Panera bread in california and high speed freeway chases today.
odd they're not talking about the nobel all that much.
OMG actually they were they were waiting for obama to come give his speech on it
240 youre really a dousch bag you know that
they covered it for about an hour already that ive seen personally...
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it would be an honor if he actually deserved it straw as it is now its simply a disgrace
would you have been happy if bush had won it?
I've made my point
I'm happy for my country and the president
I'm done on this topic
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HAHAHA look at the right wing meltdown. Agreeing with Taliban, basically sh*tting on their own country. Hey HH6 you agree with people trying to kill you huh? What an embarrassment of human beings you all are. Agreeing with the Taliban. What's next voting for al-queda? Defecating on the 9/11 site? You may as well be doing that you unamerican pieces of sh*t.
you think we should have been in iraq?
guess what you agree with the taliban....you dip shits never think anything through ::)
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This whole train wreck is hysterical.
doin pretty good in my eyes
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I've made my point
I'm happy for my country and the president
I'm done on this topic
hahahahhhahah run, run away straw
i knew that question would show you for your bias....
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doin pretty good in my eyes
Sorry Mal -but I had to.
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you think we should have been in iraq?
guess what you agree with the taliban....you dip shits never think anything through ::)
We are in Iraq i think we should finish the war. I'm not some slimy POS who backs the enemy in a time of war because i'm butt hurt about an election. Fu*ken unamerican is what that is. Why not just go join them now tony it seems thats what you want. The death of americans so go right ahead.
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When the only thing you have left to draw parallels for your own insecurities and self loathing is from the Taliban and religious fucknuts in Pakistan in order to justify your own blind irrational hatred and bigotry, then you are pretty much scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
You people need a pysch evaluation. No rational person can harbor this much blind hate without a severe deficiency of braincells.
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When the only thing you have left to draw parallels for your own insecurities and self loathing is from the Taliban and religious fucknuts in Pakistan in order to justify your own blind irrational hatred and bigotry, then you are pretty much scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
You people need a pysch evaluation. No rational person can harbor this much blind hate without a severe deficiency of braincells.
QFT!
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hahahahhhahah run, run away straw
i knew that question would show you for your bias....
Hey Dumbass - I have work to do today
I've made my point and I dont' have time to keep entertaining you
Maybe I'll check back later tonight
I assume you and 333 and other will still be parroting the same opinion you've had about Obama since the day he announced he was running for office
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Hey Dumbass - I have work to do today
I've made my point and I dont' have time to keep entertaining you
Maybe I'll check back later tonight
I assume you and 333 and other will still be parroting the same opinion you've had about Obama since the day he announced he was running for office
it was a simple question that required a one word answer instead youve decide to post 2 times in saying you have shit to do today
would you be happy if bush had won the prize?
dont post in this thread again and say youre busy numb nut
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OCTOBER 9, 2009, 12:16 P.M. ET Nobel Committee's Decision Courts Controversy Article Video Comments (82) more in World »Email Printer
By GUY CHAZAN and ALISTAIR MACDONALD
The award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama, so early in his presidency, is bound to reignite criticism of the workings of the Nobel committee.
The deadline for nominations for the prize was Feb. 1 -- two weeks after Mr. Obama was inaugurated.
"So soon? Too early. He has no contribution so far," former Polish President Lech Walesa, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983, said Friday. "He is still at an early stage."
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The Peace Prize Committee, made up of Norwegians, appeared to have anticipated criticism of its choice. (The other Nobel prizes are awarded by a Swedish committee.) Committee Chairman Thorbjorn Jagland said the prize often has been used to encourage laureates rather than reward them for their achievements.
"The committee wants to not only endorse but contribute to enhancing that kind of international policy and attitude which [Obama] stands for," said Mr. Jagland, a former Norwegian prime minister, said at a news conference.
He cited the example of Willy Brandt, the West German chancellor who won the prize in 1971. That award, he said, encouraged Mr. Brandt to pursue Ostpolitik, the push to normalize West Germany's relations with the communist bloc. Mr. Brandt was elected chancellor in 1969 and served until 1974.
Muhammad Yunus, the Bangladeshi winner of the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize, said he wasn't expecting the Obama award but said the president "has done some things already and he has the wonderful possibility of doing more things."
Mr. Obama's main achievement so far was the change the policy of his predecessor who had "put the world on a war footing [and] created suspicion and division," Mr. Yunus said in a telephone interview. But his policy announcements on moving towards nuclear disarmament, halting missile defense in Europe and securing peace in the Middle East gave grounds for hope, he said.
Mr. Yunus, who made his name by establishing a bank providing tiny loans to women in his native Bangladesh, a development copied in many other poor countries, said he heard about his own award from a Norwegian television journalist only about 15 minutes before it was announced. Normally, he was told, the recipient is informed about an hour before the announcement.
The Nobel committee has courted controversy from time-to-time ever since its founding in 1901. In 1906, it awarded the peace prize to President Theodore Roosevelt for his role in bringing an end to the Russo-Japanese war. But for many Americans and others around the world, Roosevelt was better known for his willingness to project U.S. military force, including a global tour of an expanded U.S. Navy, not to mention his pre-Presidential exploits as a cavalry officer during the Spanish-American war of 1898.
The Norwegians also earned big brickbats in 1973 for awarding the prize to Henry Kissinger, vilified by many on the left as a pushing for the expansion of the Vietnam War into neighboring countries. His co-laureate, the Vietnamese politician Le Duc Tho, was the only person ever to decline the award.
The committee has also been criticized for political bias, especially after it awarded the Nobel to Jimmy Carter in 2002 and Al Gore in 2007 -- moves that were both seen as rebukes to the then U.S. president, George W. Bush.
They've also been slammed for their omissions. Mahatma Gandhi, the iconic leader of the Indian independence movement and a symbol of nonviolence, never won the Nobel, though he was nominated five times.
The selection process has become increasingly cumbersome as the aura around the prize has grown. There are now between 150 and 200 nominations every year: This year saw a record 205.
Examples of nominees who didn't win the peace prize include Josef Stalin, the Soviet dictator, and Adolf Hitler, whose name was put forward in 1939.
When all the nominations are in, the committee draws up a short list of between five and 20 candidates which are then considered by the Nobel Institute's director and research director and a group of Norwegian university professors. Their reports on the candidates are then discussed by the five-member prize committee.
Members, all of whom are former or serving deputies of the Storting, the Norwegian parliament, seek to reach a unanimous decision -- normally by mid-September -- but this has sometimes proved impossible and the choice is then made by a simple majority vote.
Some have criticized the selection procedure as untransparent. The committee never announces the names of nominees and information about candidacies is only made public 50 years after the decision. "It is all done in secret, you don't know what is happening and whoever sits on that panel is very susceptible to the tides of the moment," said Philip Towle, an academic from the department of politics and international studies at the University of Cambridge.
Even in Norway, where Mr. Obama enjoys huge popularity, the decision raised eyebrows among some. "It is just too soon," said Siv Jensen, leader of Norway's main opposition party, the Progress Party. "It is wrong to give him the peace prize for his ambition. You should receive it for results."
She said that the decision to bestow the award on the president was the most controversial she could remember and was one of a number that had moved the prize further away from the ideals of Alfred Nobel.
Others made the same point in somewhat more diplomatic language. Amnesty International, which won the peace prize in 1977, congratulated Mr. Obama but said he couldn't stop there. "President Obama has taken some positive steps towards improving human rights in the U.S.A. and abroad, but much remains to be done," said Irene Kahn, Amnesty's secretary general.
—Joel Sherwood contributed to this article.
Write to Guy Chazan at guy.chazan@wsj.com and Alistair MacDonald at alistair.macdonald@wsj.com
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The prize was a joke when Gore won for a documentary. Now it's just pathetic. I'm not all that shocked though. It's the epitome of lib thinking: Give a reward, not for accomplishment, but for saying what you would like to accomplish.
Well, with Gore's award came a whole new movement, a movement so powerful that it help Spawn Chevy's new Volt, which they spent billions on, and the fate of GM is riding on. Formula one now has KERs flybrids (okay hasn't work out to well), Nd that shows promise on street cars, FerrRi has applied for apatent four scour wheel drive hybrid, Tesla's Roadster electric is selling well, Lexus has 4 hybrids in their line up, and most of the cars in he market will as well. And this is just a small part of that movement. Now he didn't start the Geeen Movement, but his award gave it the wind and cred that it needed
hopefull the same can be said about obama. I can only look at this as plus. Besides, if it was found out he was up for it and lost, the right would again chastise him
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Well, with Gore's award came a whole new movement, a movement so powerful that it help Spawn Chevy's new Volt, which they spent billions on, and the fate of GM is riding on. Formula one now has KERs flybrids (okay hasn't work out to well), Nd that shows promise on street cars, FerrRi has applied for apatent four scour wheel drive hybrid, Tesla's Roadster electric is selling well, Lexus has 4 hybrids in their line up, and most of the cars in he market will as well. And this is just a small part of that movement. Now he didn't start the Geeen Movement, but his award gave it the wind and cred that it needed
hopefull the same can be said about obama. I can only look at this as plus. Besides, if it was found out he was up for it and lost, the right would again chastise him
He should have turned it down and shown an ounce of dignity and humility. I'm sure Michelle already has the $$$ spent on her wardrobe.
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U fucking lib pieces of shit..u morons hated Bush and everything he stood for..now this worthless shitbag who is destroying this country piece by piece wins a lefty prize for 11 days of work and we're un American....hey KC when u have done more for ur country then I have..then u can spout that bullshit. My point was in jest, because nothing that short Taliban statement said was in anyway different then most people actually felt when they heard this. Barry doesn't even believe it. These are the same idiots who overlooked Reagan but gave Gorbachev one.
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U fucking lib pieces of shit..u morons hated Bush and everything he stood for..now this worthless shitbag who is destroying this country piece by piece wins a lefty prize for 11 days of work and we're un American....hey KC when u have done more for ur country then I have..then u can spout that bullshit. My point was in jest, because nothing that short Taliban statement said was in anyway different then most people actually felt when they heard this. Barry doesn't even believe it. These are the same idiots who overlooked Reagan but gave Gorbachev one.
I seriously dont see how anyone can justify Obama not turning this down.
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My point was in jest,
Yeah, I'm not bothering with them. If they're not bright enough to realize something said in jest, there's really no point in trying to have a reasonable discussion.
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Almost as big of a joke as giving it to a terrorist. A few years down the road and some progress, maybe. Less than a year after taking office? What a joke.
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He should have turned it down and shown an ounce of dignity and humility. I'm sure Michelle already has the $$$ spent on her wardrobe.
If he turned it down, then there would be a international firestorm and media wildfire here. Internatinally it would make him seem like he is acting too good or elitist. Also it would go against his cred ( whatever he has now) and work against him the future. For instance, a another war or international affair, "oh you need our help, remember you were too good for the Nobel Prize, bit now you are asking for our help. Another example. Condemning the Chinese on their actions in Africa, " your telling us what do, yet america feels like accepting international awards is beneath them. With the middle east, it shows that America has contempt and arrogance toward the international community and further distrust will ensue.
In the states HD would be criticized for ostricizing the us, further than now, and growing concerns of our international leadership. He would also be portrayed as "The Uppity Negro", one who thinks his shit (and America's) doesn't stink. Too much riding. Just accept the award and go. At least this is a somewhat positive as countries who may have thought that he just a continuation of american's Imperialist and do as I say, not do as I do philosophy, shows that it is not.
In a perfect world I too would say, decline it.
I apologize for any mispellings or runons, I'm typing on my iPhone, while waiting to get blood drawn.
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it was a simple question that required a one word answer instead youve decide to post 2 times in saying you have shit to do today
would you be happy if bush had won the prize?
dont post in this thread again and say youre busy numb nut
piss off
I'll do what I want and I'm sure you will to
If Bush won the Nobel Peace Prize (trying to imagine how that would happen) my first, second and third reaction would not be to piss on my country or my president
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piss off
I'll do what I want and I'm sure you will to
If Bush won the Nobel Peace Prize (trying to imagine how that would happen) my first, second and third reaction would not be to piss on my country or my president
lol i didnt piss on my country at all
I will do what i want i dont need a little shit such as yourself trying to call me unamerican or unpatriotic for calling a spade a fuking spade
sorry if you cant handle the truth hoss
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I sure wouldn't have been happy if Bush was awarded it.
he invaded iraq for oil, and ignored intel hand-delivered in the middle of the night about 911. he was either okay with it, or lazy beyond words.
Either way, letting 911 happen (and subsequent war) then invading for WMD which didn't exist aren't exactly peaceful actions. At least Obama hasn't started any wars, and has actually STOPPED attacks on our soil. Bush didn't bother to read the memo which came in the middle of hte night. He handed it to condi, who gave it to rummy, and nobody read it. 911 could have been stopped.
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I sure wouldn't have been happy if Bush was awarded it.
he invaded iraq for oil, and ignored intel hand-delivered in the middle of the night about 911. he was either okay with it, or lazy beyond words.
Either way, letting 911 happen (and subsequent war) then invading for WMD which didn't exist aren't exactly peaceful actions. At least Obama hasn't started any wars, and has actually STOPPED attacks on our soil. Bush didn't bother to read the memo which came in the middle of hte night. He handed it to condi, who gave it to rummy, and nobody read it. 911 could have been stopped.
iono 240 he did a butt load for africans and aids
thats much more then obama has done ;) especially 2 weeks into his presidency when he was nominated ::)
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BOTTOM LINE:
if he doesnt deserve it yet HE DOESNT FUKING DESERVE IT!!!!! plain and simple
Correct. This was already stated by 240:
He doesn't deserve it
as well as Obama stating it:
To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize
Now.... who the hell are you arguing with, dude?
WHO SAYS HE DESERVES IT?
Nobody. You're having a fistfight with your shadow man.
HAVE A BEER TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tonymctones 333386 headhuntersix = sore losers
next time don't run macain with a retard, its your own fault
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U fucking lib pieces of shit..u morons hated Bush and everything he stood for..now this worthless shitbag who is destroying this country piece by piece wins a lefty prize for 11 days of work and we're un American....hey KC when u have done more for ur country then I have..then u can spout that bullshit. My point was in jest, because nothing that short Taliban statement said was in anyway different then most people actually felt when they heard this. Barry doesn't even believe it. These are the same idiots who overlooked Reagan but gave Gorbachev one.
As a mental midget dipshit, you shouldn't be attempting to determine what other people think and what they have deserved or not.
It isn't healthy for one to be so jealous about their boss.
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tonymctones 333386 headhuntersix = sore losers
next time don't run macain with a retard, its your own fault
I voted for Romney in the primary.
BTW GFY U POS.
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lol i didnt piss on my country at all
I will do what i want i dont need a little shit such as yourself trying to call me unamerican or unpatriotic for calling a spade a fuking spade
sorry if you cant handle the truth hoss
sure you did (as did others)
this prize is as much for the country as it is for the POTUS
too bad you're too dense to understand that
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sure you did (as did others)
this prize is as much for the country as it is for the POTUS
too bad you're too dense to understand that
Prize for what? Winning a campaign against a weak opponent?
Had Dear Leader been white, Hillary would have destroyed him.
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sure you did (as did others)
this prize is as much for the country as it is for the POTUS
too bad you're too dense to understand that
LOL dude STFU seriously...hahhahha
so you admit this wasnt for anything other then not being bush? you really think thats deserving of a noble peace prize?
whats embarrasing to this country are ppl like you and 240 who defend this bullshit
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LOL dude STFU seriously...hahhahha
so you admit this wasnt for anything other then not being bush? you really think thats deserving of a noble peace prize?
whats embarrasing to this country are ppl like you and 240 who defend this bullshit
POTUS is the most powerul leader on the planet.
As soon as he got into office started trying to mend fences (remember the speeches in the Arabl world which you probably shit all over too) in an attempt to correct the most disastrous 8 years of foreign policy in the history of our country.
I see it as an affirmation of the will of the American people, the actions that Obama started immediately after his inaugeration and no doubt an attempt to push him to further action.
I'll predict people like you will keep pissing and moaning about this until you find the next success or failure (really doesn't matter does it?) to criticize him about
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POTUS is the most powerul leader on the planet.
As soon as he got into office started trying to mend fences (remember the speeches in the Arabl world which you probably shit all over too) in an attempt to correct the most disastrous 8 years of foreign policy in the history of our country.
I see it as an affirmation of the will of the American people, the actions that Obama started immediately after his inaugeration and no doubt an attempt to push him to further action.
I'll predict people like you will keep pissing and moaning about this until you find the next success or failure (really doesn't matter does it?) to criticize him about
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right back at you dumbass
as soon as Obama has another success or failure you'll be criticizing that too.
he could shit diamonds and you'd find some way to have a problem with it
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right back at you dumbass
as soon as Obama has another success or failure you'll be criticizing that too.
he could shit diamonds and you'd find some way to have a problem with it
Actually, I am still waiting for you clowns to admit I was spot on about the effects of the Stimulus and C4C that you libs shilled for.
I'll help you out.
FAILURE!
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POTUS is the most powerul leader on the planet.
As soon as he got into office started trying to mend fences (remember the speeches in the Arabl world which you probably shit all over too) in an attempt to correct the most disastrous 8 years of foreign policy in the history of our country.
I see it as an affirmation of the will of the American people, the actions that Obama started immediately after his inaugeration and no doubt an attempt to push him to further action.
I'll predict people like you will keep pissing and moaning about this until you find the next success or failure (really doesn't matter does it?) to criticize him about
when did he make those speeches straw?
face it hoss this is nothing other then a "your not bush award"
even if you believe the shit youre saying youre admitting this is simply a political ploy
Obama hasnt done much to give credence to straw plain and simple the good will we supposedly have abroad is probably his high point as president as of now. That doesnt equate to a noble peace prize bro open your eyes and see this for what it is.
You say 333, me and others will shit on him for everything but you overlook the fact that you will praise him for everything...
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ppl like you and 240
it's saturday morning and youre still bringing me up nonstop. take your meds.
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Actually, I am still waiting for you clowns to admit I was spot on about the effects of the Stimulus and C4C that you libs shilled for.
I'll help you out.
FAILURE!
what does that have to do with foreign policy?
shouldn't you be out hoarding gold right now?
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when did he make those speeches straw?
face it hoss this is nothing other then a "your not bush award"
even if you believe the shit youre saying youre admitting this is simply a political ploy
Obama hasnt done much to give credence to straw plain and simple the good will we supposedly have abroad is probably his high point as president as of now. That doesnt equate to a noble peace prize bro open your eyes and see this for what it is.
You say 333, me and others will shit on him for everything but you overlook the fact that you will praise him for everything...
you honestly don't remember his speeches in the middle east and arab world immediately
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you honestly don't remember his speeches in the middle east and arab world immediately
I remember this, but not much else. No wonder the world loves him. He brings us down to their level.
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I remember this, but not much else. No wonder the world loves him. He brings us down to their level.
I thought you liked cheering for America's failures and pretending that success = failure
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I thought you liked cheering for America's failures and pretending that success = failure
For America to succeed, Obama must fail. If Obama's policies succeed, the nation fails.
Obama is not the country, he is an elected politician who thankfully will be a one term mistake at best.
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you honestly don't remember his speeches in the middle east and arab world immediately
oh no straw i completely remember but were those made within the first 2 weeks of his presidency as that was the cut off for nominations?
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For America to succeed, Obama must fail. If Obama's policies succeed, the nation fails.
Obama is not the country, he is an elected politician who thankfully will be a one term mistake at best.
talk about drinking the cool aid
you're a certified idiot
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oh no straw i completely remember but were those made within the first 2 weeks of his presidency as that was the cut off for nominations?
I doubt you watched either video (especially the longer one) where the people making this decision explained their rationale.
Why don't you give it a rest and save your energy so that you can critize the next success or failure that Obama has
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talk about drinking the cool aid
you're a certified idiot
Stimulus is a failed mess.
The Bailouts are a failed mess.
C4C is a failed mess.
UE is going well over 10% and will stay there. Count on it.
Cap & Tax will export millions of mfg jobs and raise energy costs.
The deficit is the highest ever and going higher because of the bailouts and expansion of govt.
"Health Care Reform" is nothing more than a middle class tax increase.
So GFY with your bullshit and bask in the glory of your failed messiah who goes around the world trashing this nation while it burns.
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Stimulus is a failed mess.
The Bailouts are a failed mess.
C4C is a failed mess.
UE is going well over 10% and will stay there. Count on it.
Cap & Tax will export millions of mfg jobs and raise energy costs.
The deficit is the highest ever and going higher because of the bailouts and expansion of govt.
"Health Care Reform" is nothing more than a middle class tax increase.
So GFY with your bullshit and bask in the glory of your failed messiah who goes around the world trashing this nation while it burns.
yeah -no doubt we're doomed and it's all Obama's fault
you better hurry up and find a new country to live in and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out
Hopefully you can still get Rush and Glen Beck where ever you wind up going
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yeah -no doubt we're doomed and it's all Obama's fault
you better hurry up and find a new country to live in and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out
Hopefully you can still get Rush and Glen Beck where ever you wind up going
As long as i can bring Palin with me too its all good right Straw????
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yeah -no doubt we're doomed and it's all Obama's fault
you better hurry up and find a new country to live in and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out
Hopefully you can still get Rush and Glen Beck where ever you wind up going
Watch and learn.
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great we have to listen to a guy talking in his bedroom
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great we have to listen to a guy talking in his bedroom
This guy has been posting these videos for a long time and they are extremely informative with facts and figures of the economy.
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great we have to listen to a guy talking in his bedroom
Fine watch this guy -
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As long as i can bring Palin with me too its all good right Straw????
unless you're talking about kidnapping her I assume you're just talking about your jack off fantasies
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unless you're talking about kidnapping her I assume you're just talking about your jack off fantasies
You Betcha Straw.
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Sunday, October 11, 2009
EDITORIAL: A Nobel for nothing
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The news Friday that President Obama was awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was met with widespread incredulity and skepticism. "For what?" was the most uttered phrase of the day. The almost universal sense of disbelief was reinforced when word spread that the deadline for nominations had been Feb. 1, less than two weeks after Mr. Obama entered office. By rights, the nomination should have been diagnosed as a symptom of an extreme case of Obamamania and quietly discarded.
Certainly there have been less deserved awards of the Nobel Peace Prize, such as the 1994 award to Palestinian terrorist Yasser Arafat, or the 2007 nod to former Vice President Al Gore for his big, scary science-fiction movie. However, Mr. Obama stands out as history's only recipient who even the Nobel Committee admitted won more for what he hopes to do than anything substantive he actually has done.
Mr. Obama stands on the shoulders of giants. Other presidents who have won the award - Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter - received recognition for concluding major peace agreements. Comparison to major human rights champions such as South Africa's Nelson Mandela, Burma's Aung San Suu Kyi and India's Mother Teresa diminish Mr. Obama even further. A record 205 nominees were considered for the 2009 prize, among them Zimbabwean Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, who has risked more, suffered more and done more for peace than Mr. Obama, and the Cluster Munitions Coalition, which was nominated for persuading nearly 100 countries to sign a multilateral treaty banning cluster bombs. We await a similar success from our president.
This award was so disproportionate to Mr. Obama's achievements that it weakens him; it casts a glaring spotlight on his utter lack of accomplishments. The timing is awkward, coming on the heels of Mr. Obama's embarrassing failure to bring home Chicago's 2016 Olympics bid and coinciding with tense debate over the escalation of the war effort in Afghanistan. The White House lamely spun the award as a "call to action," but this message ironically reinforces the sense that Mr. Obama has been largely inactive in office.
The president should decline the award in favor of a more deserving recipient. That would show leadership and strength of character. It also would demonstrate faith in himself and his presidency that some day he actually will do something worthy of the award. There is more to making history than simply voting present.
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Issam al-Khazraji, a day laborer in Baghdad, said: "He doesn't deserve this prize. All these problems -- Iraq, Afghanistan -- have not been solved...The man of 'change' hasn't changed anything yet."
Liaqat Baluch, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a conservative religious party in Pakistan, called the award an embarrassing "joke."
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters: "The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won 'the Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'."
these are the quotes you choose to highlight?
haha brutal credibility
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I doubt you watched either video (especially the longer one) where the people making this decision explained their rationale.
Why don't you give it a rest and save your energy so that you can critize the next success or failure that Obama has
huh? you didnt address one point or answer one question i asked
is this your way of saying i was right and that those speeches were made after his first 2 weeks and therefor had nothing to do with his nomination?
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I haven't read through this whole thread so not sure if this has been brought up but it's definitely worth noting.
Mother Teresa, it took 29 years for her to be given a Nobel Peace Prize...something she cared nothing for either way, but she spent a lifetime of poverty and self-less service taking care of starving children. Obama, 9 months as president, done nothing...not saying he won't, even though I have strong doubts....but he's yet to do anything worth while.
Should any president be given this award? In my opinion, no. It doesn't really fit with the notion of the prize. Even so, regardless of what you think about certain presidents, I can think of several who would deserve it far more than Obama...i.e. Ronald Reagan. Love him or hate him, make any claim you want, he was the sitting president during the fall of communism in the USSR. That alone warrents him the award for Obama who has done nothing more than win a presidential election.
It's nice to know this award is now based on "What people say for the future." If that's all it takes, I hope the panel is listening to me know...in the future I will bring the world peace and prosperity the world over. It will be a utopia, heaven on earth...free HBO for everyone. Now, give me my check!
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They've also been slammed for their omissions. Mahatma Gandhi, the iconic leader of the Indian independence movement and a symbol of nonviolence, never won the Nobel, though he was nominated five times.
Unbelievable! >:(
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Yes, righty thinking is so much better. Better to lie to people and take us into a trumped up war resulting in the needless death of several thousand troops and nearly bankrupting the country in the process. :(
As if Obama has done anything better in three years?
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So, by the way Obama has conducted himself since "earning" his Peace Prize, I assume they're handing them out now? If so, I'd like one for my wall.
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So, by the way Obama has conducted himself since "earning" his Peace Prize, I assume they're handing them out now? If so, I'd like one for my wall.
Middle East in flames - CHECK