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What would any one expect from a bunch of people barely ashamed of their own racism and proud of their ignorance who defend the war crimes of the Bush-Cheney years but still beat their chests over impeaching Clinton for a blow job.
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Yeah everyone is rooting against America ::) Got news for you assclown Barack Obama is not America. Oh and yeah everyone is racist because they see through the charade that this is
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Yeah everyone is rooting against America ::) Got news for you assclown Barack Obama is not America. Oh and yeah everyone is racist because they see through the charade that this is
the only charade here is your post
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the only charade here is your post
Then why don't you list all the things that the POTUS has done to warrant being given the nobel prize.
He was nominated after being on office for 2 weeks for cripe sake, take off the rose colored glasses and be objective for once in your life
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Our president wins the Nobel Peace Prize it's suddenly like a mob is out to get him. Yet I'm positive that if a republican had won this award the reaction would be completely different.Where do all these sad little losers come from?
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If it had been announced that Obama was in the running - then he would have lost - Republicans would have been dissing him for that too.
At this point, repubs will not admit anything good he does. When he accomplishes something or fails, they'll deliver the same response - they hate obama.
This approach loses a lot of effect. You can only cry about how 'outraged' you are so many times before people just tune out and tell you to STFU with the whining.
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these muthafuckas on this board would hate the man if he found the cure for cancer...
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So this I don't get.
Ok, the rest of the world, like myself eg, isn't very impressed about the fact that the US president is getting the most prestigous award there is.
But somehow he's getting ambushed by his own countrymen?
That just doesn't make sense.
I have no problem with it, it's a free world and shit.
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If it had been announced that Obama was in the running - then he would have lost - Republicans would have been dissing him for that too.
At this point, repubs will not admit anything good he does. When he accomplishes something or fails, they'll deliver the same response - they hate obama.
This approach loses a lot of effect. You can only cry about how 'outraged' you are so many times before people just tune out and tell you to STFU with the whining.
First off you have to be nominated for the Noble Peace Prize you don't run for it
What good has the POTUS done? You keep saying his accomplishments, well what are they? What has he done that is above and beyond to warrant being awarded the nobel peace prize?
Your approach of duck and weave has lost its affect, you and the rest of the lib either won't answer or try to throw some moral equivalence bullshit argument into the mix. I think its about time you STFU
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So this I don't get.
Ok, the rest of the world, like myself eg, isn't very impressed about the fact that the US president is getting the most prestigous award there is.
But somehow he's getting ambushed by his own countrymen?
That just doesn't make sense.
I have no problem with it, it's a free world and shit.
Whats there not to get? Some of us in America still think that before you are given an award that you have to earn it.
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I'll second Kazan...what has he done to deserve this..what? What? what? what?. Do u honesty think barry and the far left represent America....handouts, taxes, appeasement, marxism....Identifying with Castro and Chavez while selling out Iranian protestors and democracies like Israel....he should go run for UN chief and quit here.
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First off you have to be nominated for the Noble Peace Prize you don't run for it
What good has the POTUS done? You keep saying his accomplishments, well what are they? What has he done that is above and beyond to warrant being awarded the nobel peace prize?
Your approach of duck and weave has lost its affect, you and the rest of the lib either won't answer or try to throw some moral equivalence bullshit argument into the mix. I think its about time you STFU
Obama hasn't done anything to deserve the Prize.
But it's just weird when his fellow countrymen attack him for it.
I would expect the rest of the world to do it, and there is critisism, even "outrage", if you would look around the world in media outlets.
Norwegian media, the country where the prize jury is located, has been very critical.
But just like when Boston wins the Worlds Series, you don't expect people from Boston rag on Big Papi for not hitting above .300 in the World Series.
That's for other baseball fans to do.
Just my opinion.
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I'll second Kazan...what has he done to deserve this..what? What? what? what?. Do u honesty think barry and the far left represent America....handouts, taxes, appeasement, marxism....Identifying with Castro and Chavez while selling out Iranian protestors and democracies like Israel....he should go run for UN chief and quit here.
Don't hold your breath waiting for a response. Its always the same bullshit, its either racism or the vast right wing conspiracy.
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my 2 cents
1) when the nominations for the Nobel Prise went in...Obama had only been in office for weeks....sooo who nominated him?
2) the prize represents what you HAVE done ....NOT a hope of things to come :-\
3) Bono shoulda won
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Obama hasn't done anything to deserve the Prize.
But it's just weird when his fellow countrymen attack him for it.
I would expect the rest of the world to do it, and there is critisism, even "outrage", if you would look around the world in media outlets.
Norwegian media, the country where the prize jury is located, has been very critical.
But just like when Boston wins the Worlds Series, you don't expect people from Boston rag on Big Papi for not hitting above .300 in the World Series.
That's for other baseball fans to do.
Just my opinion.
I am of the opinion that when an obvious charade is perpetrated like this, that it makes America look bad.
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I'll second Kazan...what has he done to deserve this..what? What? what? what?. Do u honesty think barry and the far left represent America....handouts, taxes, appeasement, marxism....Identifying with Castro and Chavez while selling out Iranian protestors and democracies like Israel....he should go run for UN chief and quit here.
listen to hartman he explains it so even simple people can understand
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Whats there not to get? Some of us in America still think that before you are given an award that you have to earn it.
Yes, and to voice that is definitely legit IMO.
I agree with you.
What I don't agree with is the propaganda that is constantly promoted that this is somehow part of some kind of anti-American agenda.
that "Europe" and their French sinister leader with a funny name Sarcasm-something (he's short too and has a porn actress wife) wants to turn USA into sissies through their henchman Obama.
To be honest, I think it's dangerous what Fox News are doing. Trying to pit USA and Europe against each other.
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listen to hartman he explains it so even simple people can understand
What does he explain that he can say over and over and over again that this is sad this is so so sad.
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Don't get the idea that we as Europeans are walking around building up some kind of hate for the US.
The very last conversation I had that was related to USA with a friend, just a few hours ago, down in the training facility.
had a positive ring to it, and it wasn't Obama related. ;)
We discussed the lifting of a very good US powerlifter, and his training style.
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The damm euros want us to be both weak and then when the usual douchbags raise there heads, strong again. Its in nobody's interest over there for the US to be weak but in some circles they want to knock us down a peg and Barry is a wonderful thing to them.
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Don't get the idea that we as Europeans are walking around building up some kind of hate for the US.
The very last conversation I had that was related to USA with a friend, just a few hours ago, down in the training facility.
had a positive ring to it, and it wasn't Obama related. ;)
We discussed the lifting of a very good US powerlifter, and his training style.
I have no problem with Europeans, people are to easily swayed by stations that are called <insert name> news, when 99% of the shows and "reports" they have are commentary and for entertainment purposes. I work at a multinational company and have to deal with people from France to China and have never had a problem with any of them.
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What does he explain that he can say over and over and over again that this is sad this is so so sad.
i said simple people would be able to understand it, i didn't say anything about morons like yourself :D :D :D
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The damm euros want us to be both weak and then when the usual douchbags raise there heads, strong again. Its in nobody's interest over there for the US to be weak but in some circles they want to knock us down a peg and Barry is a wonderful thing to them.
LOL
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i said simple people would be able to understand it, i didn't say anything about morons like yourself :D :D :D
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Blackone stirring the shit.....his favorite color.
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these muthafuckas on this board would hate the man if he found the cure for cancer...
that's honestly the impression I get from them too.
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that's honestly the impression I get from them too.
It offsets the motherfuckers who would still love him if they heard he caused cancer.
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the official explanation on why he won
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Obama hasn't done anything to deserve the Prize.
But it's just weird when his fellow countrymen attack him for it.
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Just like the republicans who are high-fiving and cheering for Rio now.
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President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to build momentum behind his initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and stress diplomacy and cooperation rather than unilateralism
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Again I don't think its a personal attack on him as much as its people sick of the extreme activism by organizations like the Nobel organization or the Academy of Motion Pictures.
Look, they changed the rules to allow Gore to win 2007, then they explicitly state this to help Obama gain momentum.
Its not award then, but a statement of support.
I really don't think this helps or hurts Obama, but really lessen the prestige of the peace prize.
Regardless both Nevil Chamberlain and Carter won the prize.
While Ghandi never did.
Peace my ass.
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these muthafuckas on this board would hate the man if he found the cure for cancer...
Oh please. I said in 240's thread when he posted that Obama was giving the money to charity that it was very noble of him. As a person, I'm sure he's a great guy, and giving away $1.4 million is a real testament to character. But he didn't earn this award, he beat out people who are truly deserving and giving an award like this to somebody for what they say they want to do is...well...you really can't see a problem with that?
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Again I don't think its a personal attack on him as much as its people sick of the extreme activism by organizations like the Nobel organization or the Academy of Motion Pictures.
Look, they changed the rules to allow Gore to win 2007, then they explicitly state this to help Obama gain momentum.
Its not award then, but a statement of support.
I really don't think this helps or hurts Obama, but really lessen the prestige of the peace prize.
Regardless both Nevil Chamberlain and Carter won the prize.
While Ghandi never did.
Peace my ass.
thats exactly right, what the ppl ok with this seem to not realize is HE DOESNT DESERVE IT this is simply a political bull shit move
he would have gotten more respect from ppl here in america and all over the world if he would have politely declined and explained that if and when he is awarded one in the future he wants it to be on his merits...
obviously he doesnt have the merits as of right now.
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Does anyone here believe Rush and others wouldn't be complaining today - if obama had declined the award?
I think they'd complain about that too.
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Does anyone here believe Rush and others wouldn't be complaining today - if obama had declined the award?
I think they'd complain about that too.
anybody here think the you and youre lib buddies would be happy if bush had won the award?
hes done more then obama has
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Does anyone here believe Rush and others wouldn't be complaining today - if obama had declined the award?
I think they'd complain about that too.
I don't care what Rush says, what don't you get about that? He's an entertainer plain and simple.
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I don't care what Rush says, what don't you get about that? He's an entertainer plain and simple.
I didn't say you did. But a lot of repubs do.
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I didn't say you did. But a lot of repubs do.
There is a big difference between being a conservative and republican, I voted 3rd party in the last election, because as a conservative Obama and McCain represent everything that I am against with every fibre of my being.
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anybody here think the you and youre lib buddies would be happy if bush had won the award?
hes done more then obama has
bump for an answer from the libs(240)
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anybody here think the you and youre lib buddies would be happy if bush had won the award?
hes done more then obama has
bump for an answer from anybody with a problem with ppl thinking obama shouldnt have won this award...
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they should rename it bashing bush award ;D
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they should rename it bashing bush award ;D
hahahhahaaa ;D
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bump for an answer from anybody with a problem with ppl thinking obama shouldnt have won this award...
when during his term?
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bump for an answer from the libs(240)
i'm not happy obama got it and hell no i wouldn't have been happy if bush got it. that would be an even bigger WTF...
my appraisal is honest. guys like rush/3333/glenn, it's just a routine forgone conclusion that would be the same today as at it would be years down the road even if he did earn it.
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i'm not happy obama got it and hell no i wouldn't have been happy if bush got it. that would be an even bigger WTF...
so youre ok with ppl in america being turned off by this obvious political move and disgrace?
just trying to understand b/c alot of ppl are coming on here condemning ppl who are against this but youre the only one who has answered whether or not they would be ok with bush winning it.
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so youre ok with ppl in america being turned off by this obvious political move and disgrace?
just trying to understand b/c alot of ppl are coming on here condemning ppl who are against this but youre the only one who has answered whether or not they would be ok with bush winning it.
I don't understand wth you're asking... read the rest of my post above.
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I don't understand wth you're asking... read the rest of my post above.
lol well you added some after i quoted it...
I agree and disagree but it would have been the same with bush too...
bush did tons for african countries and their fight with aids bro he could have deservedly been nominated and won.
I agree there will be ppl that bitch just to bitch but this isnt a case call them out when its a case
this issue deserves the eye rolls as the stupidity is off the fuking charts
like I said you have ppl on here who dont understand why ppl are upset even americans are upset with this stupidity, fuking really?
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lol well you added some after i quoted it...
I agree and disagree but it would have been the same with bush too...
bush did tons for african countries and their fight with aids bro he could have deservedly been nominated and won.
I agree there will be ppl that bitch just to bitch but this isnt a case call them out when its a case
this issue deserves the eye rolls as the stupidity is off the fuking charts
like I said you have ppl on here who dont understand why ppl are upset even americans are upset with this stupidity, fuking really?
wait, this all depends. If we're saying "what if Bush got the prize at 9 months into his first term with nothing to show for it" It's at least equally absurd. If Bush got this prize after knowing the fruits of this full presidency, I'm going to call it way more absurd. What the hell is your point? I'm still not getting it.
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wait, this all depends. If we're saying "what if Bush got the prize at 9 months into his first term with nothing to show for it" It's at least equally absurd. If Bush got this prize after knowing the fruits of this full presidency, I'm going to call it way more absurd. What the hell is your point? I'm still not getting it.
my point is now listen very closely huggy bear ive stated it 3 times so far...
you have ppl condemning those who are against obama winning this award calling them unamerican, unpatriotic etc...
this is absurd i think a rational person would be upset at the stupidity and down right shameless political nature of this award.
youre statement about ppl being upset if he found a cure for cancer was misplaced on this issue ppl have a legit bitch as youve agreed so youre simply giving credence to those idiots who think that obama deserves this award and that those who disagree are unpatriotic and unamerican.
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my point is now listen very closely huggy bear ive stated it 3 times so far...
you have ppl condemning those who are against obama winning this award calling them unamerican, unpatriotic etc...
this is absurd i think a rational person would be upset at the stupidity and down right shameless political nature of this award.
youre statement about ppl being upset if he found a cure for cancer was misplaced on this issue ppl have a legit bitch as youve agreed so youre simply giving credence to those idiots who think that obama deserves this award and that those who disagree are unpatriotic and unamerican.
no i don't agree in calling people unAmerican for thinking this is a bad choice. Naomi Kline and others on the left came out against it right away today. The only thing I will state for a certainty is that some people have no weight in their criticism since they would be against it even if Obama did deserve it. I guarantee that it wouldn't matter if Obama deserved it, Rush would be rooting against him and would come out against him if he got it, even if he did deserve it. I suspect the same of Glenn Beck, Hannity and probably 3333, who would find some angle to say it was bullshit.
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no i don't agree in calling people unAmerican for thinking this is a bad choice. Naomi Kline and others on the left came out against it right away today. The only thing I will state for a certainty is that some people have no weight in their criticism since they would be against it even if Obama did deserve it. I guarantee that it wouldn't matter if Obama deserved it, Rush would be rooting against him and would come out against him if he got it, even if he did deserve it. I suspect the same of Glenn Beck, Hannity and probably 3333, who would find some angle to say it was bullshit.
no doubt like i said there will always be ppl like that on both sides of the isle but on this point their criticism is legit and simply b/c they go after him for everything doesnt make them wrong or their points on this issue any less valid.
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What has he done to deserve this award other then talk? Ok so he says he wants world peace... so do I shouldnt I get gthe award to. In order to win something like this he must do something first everyone can talk a big game few can back it up, I hope he proves me wrong.
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no doubt like i said there will always be ppl like that on both sides of the isle but on this point their criticism is legit and simply b/c they go after him for everything doesnt make them wrong or their points on this issue any less valid.
people like that are never legit, that's what I'm saying. They lose all weight to any valid criticism.
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What has he done to deserve this award other then talk? Ok so he says he wants world peace... so do I shouldnt I get gthe award to. In order to win something like this he must do something first everyone can talk a big game few can back it up, I hope he proves me wrong.
exactly
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people like that are never legit, that's what I'm saying. They lose all weight to any valid criticism.
lol then 240 et al in the liberal brigade here have no weight in their views either as they did the same thing with bush and now praise obama for everything from the beer summit to walking away from rev. wright even though he sat in his church for 20 yrs
wouldnt you agree?
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lol then 240 et al in the liberal brigade here have no weight in their views either as they did the same thing with bush and now praise obama for everything from the beer summit to walking away from rev. wright even though he sat in his church for 20 yrs
wouldnt you agree?
Tony, you may not like it but 240 doesn't always side one way. Neither do I and I hope I've established that by now. You can't say 240 is going to side on something by default. On this issue with the nobel peace prize I have no idea how he would side. But people like Rush, it's a SURE BET NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHAT.... SURE BET...
The pure pundit has zero value and no weight imo...
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Tony, you may not like it but 240 doesn't always side one way. Neither do I and I hope I've established that by now. You can't say 240 is going to side on something by default. On this issue with the nobel peace prize I have no idea how he would side. But people like Rush, it's a SURE BET NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHAT.... SURE BET...
The pure pundit has zero value and no weight imo...
no no i in no way lump you in with 240, blacken, benny, straw etc...i probably would have a year or so ago though ;)
dude i understand you and 240 go back aways but you know and i know the guy is a straight up tool and sides with obama 110% of the time.
I agree with you about rush, hannity etc...and how they lose credibility all im saying is the same thing applies to 240 et al. and by your logic you would have to agree.
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tony, you must type the word '240' about 240 times a day.
i own your mind :)
That being said, obviously obama hasn't earned it. he was nominated because he wasn't bush, and in his opening 10 months of being in office, he has initiated some anti-nuclear programs and he's healed a lot of old wounds from recently and decades ago. Doesn't mean shit to you, but when these young muslims potential crazy bastards see Obama on their soil telling them it was a mistake to kick iran's leader out 50 years ago, that makes less of them want ot kill us. You can deny it, but it's true. They're taught to hate us. When the most popular man in the world comes to your land and says "seriously, sorry about that dude", a lot of those nuts get over the grudge and move on.
So he's being given the award because he has the power to shift the world in a better direction. Nobody else does, to be honest.
We'll see if he earns it or not.
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tony, you must type the word '240' about 240 times a day.
i own your mind :)
That being said, obviously obama hasn't earned it. he was nominated because he wasn't bush, and in his opening 10 months of being in office, he has initiated some anti-nuclear programs and he's healed a lot of old wounds from recently and decades ago. Doesn't mean shit to you, but when these young muslims potential crazy bastards see Obama on their soil telling them it was a mistake to kick iran's leader out 50 years ago, that makes less of them want ot kill us. You can deny it, but it's true. They're taught to hate us. When the most popular man in the world comes to your land and says "seriously, sorry about that dude", a lot of those nuts get over the grudge and move on.
So he's being given the award because he has the power to shift the world in a better direction. Nobody else does, to be honest.
We'll see if he earns it or not.
LOL you see this hugo this is what im talking about
240 the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks into his presidency...2 fuking weeks
he had no time to inact any talk, or any legislation about nuclear disarmorment and what you just tried to pass of is a bull shit lie
there is no "and" "ifs" or "buts" about this he didnt deserve the award the fact that you come in here and try to put in a caveat into your statement and act like your coming out against it doesnt work hoss...
let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?
also the mind owning thing is for the G&O and those retards I admit its fun to go there and fuck about but dont get the two confused. ;)
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LOL you see this hugo this is what im talking about
240 the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks into his presidency...2 fuking weeks
he had no time to inact any talk, or any legislation about nuclear disarmorment and what you just tried to pass of is a bull shit lie
there is no "and" "ifs" or "buts" about this he didnt deserve the award the fact that you come in here and try to put in a caveat into your statement and act like your coming out against it doesnt work hoss...
let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?
also the mind owning thing is for the G&O and those retards I admit its fun to go there and fuck about but dont get the two confused. ;)
he was nominated because the committee knew he might actually follow thru on the anti-nuke agenda .... which he has. They had to put the nomination in, along with the others. Then, obama had the most impact on world peace in the following 9 months, than the other nominees. So he won. Nominations and selections didn't happen on Feb 2 - the selection was way later ;)
also - seriously - you write my name a hundred times a day here - which means you think of me a lot in your normal life - which isn't normal...
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he was nominated because the committee knew he might actually follow thru on the anti-nuke agenda .... which he has. They had to put the nomination in, along with the others. Then, obama had the most impact on world peace in the following 9 months, than the other nominees. So he won. Nominations and selections didn't happen on Feb 2 - the selection was way later ;)
also - seriously - you write my name a hundred times a day here - which means you think of me a lot in your normal life - which isn't normal...
LOL wow again HUGO ARE YOU SEEING THIS SHIT?????????????????? SERIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT
how can this dousch still have any credibility?
LOL so he has had more impact on world piece then any other person that was nominated? do you know the other ppl that were nominated?
lol in regards to you last statement if thats true then you must have palin posters up on your wall as well as obama commerative plates filling your cabinets ::)
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let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?
1) Obama is about to settle Afghanistan with diplomacy - giving the taleban a voice in the govt (as cheney/bush recommended mind you). Al-Q is dead... headhunter even confirms that. he'll give them a voice, they put down guns. Russia should have done it - and Bush said we'd do it. This is why the pentagon is pissed - O is giving signs he wants peace without a surge and 150k permanent troops (the way Bush ended iraq... permant occupancy)
2) Maybe Obama can prevent iran nukes, either thru sanctions or precision strikes which limit their ability to F up the region with nukes, keeping the region safer.
3) Maybe obama can scale back world nuke stockpiles....
If he does any of these - he deserves it. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. Now, please, brush your teeth and get my name out of your dental. it's looking sad that you mention me in every other post dude.
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LOL so he has had more impact on world piece then any other person that was nominated?
IF Obama does any of these, he will have deserved the award. Three tasks that Bush couldn't do, that russia and UK couldnt do, that nobody could do. Afghanistan, iran, and Nukes are 3 big problems that NOBODY has been able to fix for the last 50 years. It's a tall order - but if he does any of them, bra-vo.
if he fails... the the award was nothing more than europe sucking up and praying for a peaceful US 4- or 8-year presidency.
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1) Obama is about to settle Afghanistan with diplomacy - giving the taleban a voice in the govt (as cheney/bush recommended mind you). Al-Q is dead... headhunter even confirms that. he'll give them a voice, they put down guns. Russia should have done it - and Bush said we'd do it. This is why the pentagon is pissed - O is giving signs he wants peace without a surge and 150k permanent troops (the way Bush ended iraq... permant occupancy)
2) Maybe Obama can prevent iran nukes, either thru sanctions or precision strikes which limit their ability to F up the region with nukes, keeping the region safer.
3) Maybe obama can scale back world nuke stockpiles....
If he does any of these - he deserves it. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. Now, please, brush your teeth and get my name out of your dental. it's looking sad that you mention me in every other post dude.
IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF LOL he hasnt done shit he didnt deserve the award you come on here act like your against him getting it and then defend it? seriously?
do you think he deserved it or not?
theres not a "no, but..."
again huggy bear i seriously hope youre watching this bro, please dont defend this dousch anymore at least not to me bro.
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LOL you see this hugo this is what im talking about
240 the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks into his presidency...2 fuking weeks
he had no time to inact any talk, or any legislation about nuclear disarmorment and what you just tried to pass of is a bull shit lie
there is no "and" "ifs" or "buts" about this he didnt deserve the award the fact that you come in here and try to put in a caveat into your statement and act like your coming out against it doesnt work hoss...
let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?
also the mind owning thing is for the G&O and those retards I admit its fun to go there and fuck about but dont get the two confused. ;)
dude, what do you expect. You stalk 240. He's your white whale on the board. Don't drag me into your battle asking me to denounce him. AND YOU'RE THE ONE that keeps bringing up 240 to me.
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IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF LOL he hasnt done shit he didnt deserve the award you come on here act like your against him getting it and then defend it? seriously?
do you think he deserved it or not?
theres not a "no, but..."
again huggy bear i seriously hope youre watching this bro, please dont defend this dousch anymore at least not to me bro.
Learn to spell "douche", mmkay?
He doesn't deserve it yet - that is obvious to anyone with half a brain. He ADMITS it himself.
He will deserve it if he achieves any of these goals.
He will not deserve it if he does not.
Now, please go get laid or something dude. When 240 tells you that you're taking the poli board way too seriously, you should realllllly step back and just have a drink and enjoy your evneing. NOBODY here is saying obama accomplished shit to deserve it - Obama included. You're arguing with your own shadow here.
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Learn to spell "douche", mmkay?
He doesn't deserve it yet - that is obvious to anyone with half a brain. He ADMITS it himself.
He will deserve it if he achieves any of these goals.
He will not deserve it if he does not.
Now, please go get laid or something dude. When 240 tells you that you're taking the poli board way too seriously, you should realllllly step back and just have a drink and enjoy your evneing. NOBODY here is saying obama accomplished shit to deserve it - Obama included. You're arguing with your own shadow here.
if he doesnt deserve it yet HE DOESNT FUKING DESERVE IT!!!!! plain and simple
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if he doesnt deserve it yet HE DOESNT FUKING DESERVE IT!!!!! plain and simple
Correct. This was already stated by 240:
He doesn't deserve it
as well as Obama stating it:
To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize
Now.... who the hell are you arguing with, dude?
WHO SAYS HE DESERVES IT?
Nobody. You're having a fistfight with your shadow man.
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I am norwegian, and therefore obviously has a different view on USA and your president... or rather different angle...
What you guys didn't feel and "live" was the change that happend in europe when GWB and Big O changed seats.
It was like the rest of the world let their shoulders down... The reactions to his speeches and his change of attitude towards the rest of the world gave US hope that there was change coming!
WE see that the politic towards nukes and how he plans to change the american warfare is s bold and courageous move!
By giving this prize to Big O the Nobel Commitee (?) both rewards the change that your president allready has made and further encourages his efforts to continue his work for getting rid of nukes and using his power in the best interest of the whole world...
Even though you are just 5% of the worlds population, you have more power and influence than any other country in the world.
During GWB USA acted like you were 95% of the world fighting the remaining 5%....Now you have a POTUS that knows both geography and politics enough to actually realize that your 5% needs to cooperate with the rest of the world to make it through the ongoing problems with war and climate changes.
The award to Big O is discussed in europe also, but no one is as harsh towards the president than his own countrymen...
(I apologize for the errors in writing)
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Even though you are just 5% of the worlds population, you have more power and influence
The award to Big O is discussed in europe also, but no one is as harsh towards the president than his own countrymen...
Very interesting.
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I am norwegian, and therefore obviously has a different view on USA and your president... or rather different angle...
What you guys didn't feel and "live" was the change that happend in europe when GWB and Big O changed seats.
It was like the rest of the world let their shoulders down... The reactions to his speeches and his change of attitude towards the rest of the world gave US hope that there was change coming!
WE see that the politic towards nukes and how he plans to change the american warfare is s bold and courageous move!
By giving this prize to Big O the Nobel Commitee (?) both rewards the change that your president allready has made and further encourages his efforts to continue his work for getting rid of nukes and using his power in the best interest of the whole world...
Even though you are just 5% of the worlds population, you have more power and influence than any other country in the world.
During GWB USA acted like you were 95% of the world fighting the remaining 5%....Now you have a POTUS that knows both geography and politics enough to actually realize that your 5% needs to cooperate with the rest of the world to make it through the ongoing problems with war and climate changes.
The award to Big O is discussed in europe also, but no one is as harsh towards the president than his own countrymen...
(I apologize for the errors in writing)
thats the reason great job writing , do you understand tonymctones, to the rest of the world its not a political thing
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The cock sucking that is going on for Obama worldwide is just sickening. This mullato marxist stooge who has never even authored a law review article, let alone a book on his own, has never done a damn thing to warrant an ounce of the praise heaped upon him. He is a hack politician like the rest of them and you little children look up to him like the slaves in NK do KJI.
You suckers are just longing for a benevolent king who will tell you what to do, how to do it, and rule your life.
Embarassing.
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The cock sucking that is going on for Obama worldwide is just sickening. This mullato marxist stooge who has never even authored a law review article, let alone a book on his own, has never done a damn thing to warrant an ounce of the praise heaped upon him. He is a hack politician like the rest of them and you little children look up to him like the slaves in NK do KJI.
You suckers are just longing for a benevolent king who will tell you what to do, how to do it, and rule your life.
the only thing
Embarassing.
the only thing Embarassing. is your post sore loser
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This mullato marxist stooge
Careful. You're letting a touch of racism come into your post here. Unless you used the word "white" when describring Palin, Mccain, Bush, etc for the last year... pointing out his race seems like quite the negative move. There are lots of reason to hate on Obama - but please don't become one of those guys that complains about his race too.
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The cock sucking that is going on for Obama worldwide is just sickening. This mullato marxist stooge who has never even authored a law review article, let alone a book on his own, has never done a damn thing to warrant an ounce of the praise heaped upon him. He is a hack politician like the rest of them and you little children look up to him like the slaves in NK do KJI.
You suckers are just longing for a benevolent king who will tell you what to do, how to do it, and rule your life.
Embarassing.
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Careful. You're letting a touch of racism come into your post here. Unless you used the word "white" when describring Palin, Mccain, Bush, etc for the last year... pointing out his race seems like quite the negative move. There are lots of reason to hate on Obama - but please don't become one of those guys that complains about his race too.
Oh please, Obama you libs play the race card every second. The fact of the matter is if Obama were white he would not be president in the first place, let alone have an ounce of the media knee padding that is going on.
Obama is half white remember?
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333386 your letting your true colors out
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1) Obama is about to settle Afghanistan with diplomacy - giving the taleban a voice in the govt (as cheney/bush recommended mind you). Al-Q is dead... headhunter even confirms that. he'll give them a voice, they put down guns. Russia should have done it - and Bush said we'd do it. This is why the pentagon is pissed - O is giving signs he wants peace without a surge and 150k permanent troops (the way Bush ended iraq... permant occupancy)
2) Maybe Obama can prevent iran nukes, either thru sanctions or precision strikes which limit their ability to F up the region with nukes, keeping the region safer.
3) Maybe obama can scale back world nuke stockpiles....
If he does any of these - he deserves it. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. Now, please, brush your teeth and get my name out of your dental. it's looking sad that you mention me in every other post dude.
1) You don't know what you are talking about, the Taliban are not going to lay down their arms and play nice with everyone else. The are hard line Islamist, sure they may play the game until NATO leaves but I can fucking guarantee as soon as the threat is gone Afghanistan will return to it's pre 9/11 self. Afghanistan is completely tribal, they have no alegence to the central government, they do what is best for their sect end of story. The only way a central government can control the country is through ruthless dictatorship thus the Taliban.
2) The POTUS is not going to attack Iran, he is to worried about public/world opinion, if anything he is going to turn a blind eye a let Isreal do it, which is going to start a giant shit storm in the ME.
3) How? You seem to think you can negoatiate and trust illogical dictators to follow through? What's going to happen? The IAEA is going to do nothing as usual accept complain and pass toothless UN resolutions with harsher and harsher language until the looneys finally nuke someone.
AL Queda is not dead they are just biding their time in the border regions of Afghanistan/ Pakistan.
I don't know what gives you the impression that somehow Barack Obama can just change the nature of people simply with his presence. You need to understand something about the ME they respect strenght, they see negotiation as a sign of weekness, no matter what dog and pony show that but on for the international media.
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Keep calling me names, I call it like it is.
The fact of the matter is that you clowns literally worship this empty suit of a joke and REFUSE to see how badly you idiots are being used as useful idiots for a NWO agenda applauding this nonsense.
Its amazing - you libs want to glorify race when you think it helps you and point to Obama as some magical figure, yet you get apolectic when any dares use your own tactics against you.
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This mullato marxist stooge
that's racist talk, 333386. youre better than that.
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that's racist talk, 333386. youre better than that.
Oh I see you really don't want to debate what you posted you just want to attack 33 ::)
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Keep calling me names, I call it like it is.
The fact of the matter is that you clowns literally worship this empty suit of a joke and REFUSE to see how badly you idiots are being used as useful idiots for a NWO agenda applauding this nonsense.
Its amazing - you libs want to glorify race when you think it helps you and point to Obama as some magical figure, yet you get apolectic when any dares use your own tactics against you.
nwo agenda huh?
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nwo agenda huh?
Yes, Obama is doing the bidding of the NWO globalists.
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The friggen taliban aren't getting a voice in the Gov...the Taliban burn women with acid and have supported AQ with bases an protection. 240 u should be banned from posting until u read atleast 10 books on foreign policy and history. Obama has zero history of doing any of the crap u hope he will do. Iran will not cave, we're sending in atleast 20k...u need to do more then skim the news.
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Correct. This was already stated by 240:
as well as Obama stating it:
Now.... who the hell are you arguing with, dude?
WHO SAYS HE DESERVES IT?
Nobody. You're having a fistfight with your shadow man.
right but you and youre liberal butt brigade want to put caveats into your idiotic statements...
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Nobody votes for Bush twice and then defends Obama.....and then calls himself a Libertarian. Obama and that ideaology are as far opposed as anything. 240 has no idea what he believes..u need to turn in that masters...they failed to teach u how to think.
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Nobody votes for Bush twice and then defends Obama.....and then calls himself a Libertarian. Obama and that ideaology are as far opposed as anything. 240 has no idea what he believes..u need to turn in that masters...they failed to teach u how to think.
240 must be lying about having an MBA. There is simply no way one can have went to school for 4 years and 2 years of grad work and post the nonsense he does.
Everyone should watch the Obama Deception. Sure some of it is a little out there, but most of it will make you realize the propaganda that is being to push him forward.
Useful idiots like 240, Blacken, Mons, Straw, and Lurker have no clue how bad they are being used and manipulated.
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240 must be lying about having an MBA. There is simply no way one can have went to school for 4 years and 2 years of grad work and post the nonsense he does.
Everyone should watch the Obama Deception. Sure some of it is a little out there, but most of it will make you realize the propaganda that is being to push him forward.
Useful idiots like 240, Blacken, Mons, Straw, and Lurker have no clue how bad they are being used and manipulated.
I know plenty of people who are highly "educated", but have the common sense of a rock.
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The friggen taliban aren't getting a voice in the Gov...the Taliban burn women with acid and have supported AQ with bases an protection. 240 u should be banned from posting until u read atleast 10 books on foreign policy and history. Obama has zero history of doing any of the crap u hope he will do. Iran will not cave, we're sending in atleast 20k...u need to do more then skim the news.
the great oz i mean headhunter has spoken! a phony just like the guy behind the curturn
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the great oz i mean headhunter has spoken! a phony just like the guy behind the curturn
Hmmm interesting, so you are saying HH6 isn't military, do you have any proof?
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Hmmm interesting, so you are saying HH6 isn't military, do you have any proof?
nice hannity move moron , never said anything about what he does for a living
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nice hannidy move moron , never said anything about what he does for a living
What exatly is a Hannidy move? Is it something like this?
Your the one that called him a phoney, so that would make you the moron
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nice hannity move moron , never said anything about what he does for a living
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Kazan 333386 headhuntersix
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Kazan 333386 headhuntersix
There are only 2 babies in the video, how can that be 3 people
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There are only 2 babies in the video, how can that be 3 people
LOL. Nothing better than watching the YouTube monkey get destroyed then putting the nail in his own coffin.
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Whats taking so long blacken? Scouring UTube for a video of 3 babies crying?
Take your drive by posting ass elsewhere.
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Whats taking so long blacken? Scouring UTube for a video of 3 babies crying?
Take your drive by posting ass elsewhere.
I think deep down even the libs like Blacken, 240, Straw know how silly this whole charade is getting.
At least Hugo is thinking critically about things and not going blindly off a cliff like the rest of the knee-padders.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091008/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_afghanistan_112
AP source: Obama focusing on al-Qaida, not Taliban
Obama's developing strategy on the Taliban will "not tolerate their return to power," the senior official said in an interview with The Associated Press. But the U.S. would fight only to keep the Taliban from retaking control of Afghanistan's central government — something it is now far from being capable of — and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said.
The official is involved in the discussions and was authorized to speak about them but not to be identified by name because the review is still under way.
Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan's culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said. That could mean paving the way for Taliban members willing to renounce violence to participate in a central government — though there has been little receptiveness to this among the Taliban. It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban.
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You ducking me 240? See post #79, I went through all the trouble of refuting your points and your gonna do me like that?
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091008/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_afghanistan_112
AP source: Obama focusing on al-Qaida, not Taliban
Obama's developing strategy on the Taliban will "not tolerate their return to power," the senior official said in an interview with The Associated Press. But the U.S. would fight only to keep the Taliban from retaking control of Afghanistan's central government — something it is now far from being capable of — and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said.
The official is involved in the discussions and was authorized to speak about them but not to be identified by name because the review is still under way.
Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan's culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said. That could mean paving the way for Taliban members willing to renounce violence to participate in a central government — though there has been little receptiveness to this among the Taliban. It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban.
And Im sure you believe their promises 240 - just like NK and Iran.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091008/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_afghanistan_112
AP source: Obama focusing on al-Qaida, not Taliban
Obama's developing strategy on the Taliban will "not tolerate their return to power," the senior official said in an interview with The Associated Press. But the U.S. would fight only to keep the Taliban from retaking control of Afghanistan's central government — something it is now far from being capable of — and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said.
The official is involved in the discussions and was authorized to speak about them but not to be identified by name because the review is still under way.
Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan's culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said. That could mean paving the way for Taliban members willing to renounce violence to participate in a central government — though there has been little receptiveness to this among the Taliban. It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban.
Holy shit that is some funny stuff, the taliban denouncing violence LOL. cedeing parts of Afganistan to the Taliban, now there is good idea ::)
So now the Obama administration is saying we can't beat the taliban, so we are just going to roll over and let them have the country back. They are more inept than I realized.
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1) You don't know what you are talking about, the Taliban are not going to lay down their arms and play nice with everyone else. The are hard line Islamist, sure they may play the game until NATO leaves but I can fucking guarantee as soon as the threat is gone Afghanistan will return to it's pre 9/11 self. Afghanistan is completely tribal, they have no alegence to the central government, they do what is best for their sect end of story. The only way a central government can control the country is through ruthless dictatorship thus the Taliban.
No kidding afghanistn is tribal and taleban are animals. IMO, there's also no question they'll always be there, they'll always have a voice. The biggest military in the history of the world couldn't kill them in 8 years. I think taleban will control many of the warlords who contorl 90% of the country. They aren't leaving, and we'll never end them. Al-Q is close to being gone.
2) The POTUS is not going to attack Iran, he is to worried about public/world opinion, if anything he is going to turn a blind eye a let Isreal do it, which is going to start a giant shit storm in the ME.
letting ISR do it is the same thing - even cheney stopped that, remember? Maybe shitstrom - they hit syria last year, didnt they? And so what - IMO i'd rather have a quick shitstorm there, and set their program back 10 years, than a major shitstorm when they are handing out suitacse nukes to anyone with 20 mil. let iSR cook their plants.
3) How? You seem to think you can negoatiate and trust illogical dictators to follow through? What's going to happen? The IAEA is going to do nothing as usual accept complain and pass toothless UN resolutions with harsher and harsher language until the looneys finally nuke someone.
Look , nukes aren't going anywhere. however, if worldwide stockpiles of nukes are reduced by 30% in all nations, it's a win for Obama. We can still cook the world 40 times over, no worries there... just not 50 times. Is that so bad? Nukes will never go away. But less is better... since we are paying for them submitches.
I don't know what gives you the impression that somehow Barack Obama can just change the nature of people simply with his presence. You need to understand something about the ME they respect strenght, they see negotiation as a sign of weekness, no matter what dog and pony show that but on for the international media.
Obama still has 150k troops in iraq, and nearly 80k men in afghanistan, with 17k more coming? I wouldn't call putting 250 men in your backyard 'soft' on terror. the ME saw 911 as weakness on bush's part. Obama hasn't slipped like that, he's kept troops the same... aside from the smile and happy talk, is Obama all that diff from Bush? He actually is using MORE troops in afghanistan than bush.
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Holy shit that is some funny stuff, the taliban denouncing violence LOL. cedeing parts of Afganistan to the Taliban, now there is good idea ::)
So now the Obama administration is saying we can't beat the taliban, so we are just going to roll over and let them have the country back. They are more inept than I realized.
white house has been floating the 'taliban as part of the central govt' for 3 years now. hell, remember that al-Sadr guy who was allowed to keep his job and area after all the troops he killed? :( :( :(
taliban isn't gonna be beaten. They're jsut gonna hide and out-wait us. This isn't obama, this is the reality that bush saw too. He just waited til obama took over to let that action be taken.
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I think deep down even the libs like Blacken, 240, Straw know how silly this whole charade is getting.
At least Hugo is thinking critically about things and not going blindly off a cliff like the rest of the knee-padders.
going blindly off a cliff. the birthers, 2,000,000 people protesting in D.C. the video was to show how you guys are crying not the babies, idiots, boy you guys are dumb ;D
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No kidding afghanistn is tribal and taleban are animals. IMO, there's also no question they'll always be there, they'll always have a voice. The biggest military in the history of the world couldn't kill them in 8 years. I think taleban will control many of the warlords who contorl 90% of the country. They aren't leaving, and we'll never end them. Al-Q is close to being gone.
letting ISR do it is the same thing - even cheney stopped that, remember? Maybe shitstrom - they hit syria last year, didnt they? And so what - IMO i'd rather have a quick shitstorm there, and set their program back 10 years, than a major shitstorm when they are handing out suitacse nukes to anyone with 20 mil. let iSR cook their plants.
Look , nukes aren't going anywhere. however, if worldwide stockpiles of nukes are reduced by 30% in all nations, it's a win for Obama. We can still cook the world 40 times over, no worries there... just not 50 times. Is that so bad? Nukes will never go away. But less is better... since we are paying for them submitches.
Obama still has 150k troops in iraq, and nearly 80k men in afghanistan, with 17k more coming? I wouldn't call putting 250 men in your backyard 'soft' on terror. the ME saw 911 as weakness on bush's part. Obama hasn't slipped like that, he's kept troops the same... aside from the smile and happy talk, is Obama all that diff from Bush? He actually is using MORE troops in afghanistan than bush.
1) We could have wiped out the Taliban in short order if we approched this war like we approached WWII, instead the US didn't learn from Vietnam you can't win the hearts and minds until the enemy's will to fight is destroyed. Al Queda is not close to being gone maybe splintered and lost man power, but there are plenty of fanatics in the ME to refil the ranks
2) Syria and Iran are 2 differnet animals, you see what happens if Isreal attacks.
3) Reducing Nukes by 30 % even though the world can still be destroyed 30 times over is a win for Obama? That is almost funny. While agree that our land based missle's at this point are outdated technology and should probabaly be retired we still have plenty of subs and bombers that can more than do the job.
4) Obama has no choice but to put troops in Afganistan, he railed about how it was the good war during the campaign and Iraq was a distraction. But he has already started to waiver on this, pointed out by the article you posted and his reluctance to use the word victoy, because that reminds him of the Japanese surrender on the decks of the USS Missouri at the end of WWII ::)
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1) We could have wiped out the Taliban in short order if we approched this war like we approached WWII, instead the US didn't learn from Vietnam you can't win the hearts and minds until the enemy's will to fight is destroyed. Al Queda is not close to being gone maybe splintered and lost man power, but there are plenty of fanatics in the ME to refil the ranks
I dunno. Nobody is embedded with the 150k mercinary troops that have been there 8 years with zero accountability. And the bad guys are still breathing. And Russia was as brutal as they come - bomb toys, etc. And they couldn't finish them either.
2) Syria and Iran are 2 differnet animals, you see what happens if Isreal attacks.
Of course they are. Would you rather let Iran go nuclear? Not me.
3) Reducing Nukes by 30 % even though the world can still be destroyed 30 times over is a win for Obama? That is almost funny. While agree that our land based missle's at this point are outdated technology and should probabaly be retired we still have plenty of subs and bombers that can more than do the job.
I dont get why people are not content with being able to blow the world up 10 times. We gotta be able to blow it up 50 times. I dont follow. Expensive shit.
4) Obama has no choice but to put troops in Afganistan, he railed about how it was the good war during the campaign and Iraq was a distraction. But he has already started to waiver on this, pointed out by the article you posted and his reluctance to use the word victoy, because that reminds him of the Japanese surrender on the decks of the USS Missouri at the end of WWII ::)
EH, I already addressed this.
PLEASE - no more 4-part posts - they're killing me! :P
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going blindly off a cliff. the birthers, 2,000,000 people protesting in D.C. the video was to show how you guys are crying not the babies, idiots, boy you guys are dumb ;D
The chorus in this video is done by Blacken, 240, Mons, Lurker and Straw.
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I dunno. Nobody is embedded with the 150k mercinary troops that have been there 8 years with zero accountability. And the bad guys are still breathing. And Russia was as brutal as they come - bomb toys, etc. And they couldn't finish them either.
Of course they are. Would you rather let Iran go nuclear? Not me.
I dont get why people are not content with being able to blow the world up 10 times. We gotta be able to blow it up 50 times. I dont follow. Expensive shit.
EH, I already addressed this.
PLEASE - no more 4-part posts - they're killing me! :P
The Russians lost in Afghanistan because they started worrying about casualties, the press reported it and it didn't sit well with the people of the USSR. The Russians lost over 20 million in WWII and still drove the NAZI's out of Russia and chased them back to Berlin. The attitude of the public has changed no the ability of the soldier to do their job. It doesn't matter how good your military is, if you don't have the support of your own population you can't win.
As far as Iran is concerned, for all we know they already have a or several Nukes, and are just waiting to be attacked so they can use one. Iran should have been delt with years ago, this is just my opinion, but I believe that is the reason no one has attacked them.
Nuclear deternets are just that, over time you can't just throw a nuke away, when a newer better technology comes out.
Afghanistan i never going to be a democratic state, and most likely alway a haven for terrorist and general miscreants, so a decision has to be made, scorched earth and be done with it or just accept that it is always going to be a thorn in our side.
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going blindly off a cliff. the birthers, 2,000,000 people protesting in D.C. the video was to show how you guys are crying not the babies, idiots, boy you guys are dumb ;D
Either post something relevant or go away
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nwo agenda huh?
he's clearly talking about himself.
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Yes, Obama is doing the bidding of the NWO globalists.
so are you.
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he's clearly talking about himself.
Taking the name of a third world marxist dictator eclipes anything I have ever said Bitch!