Rooting Against America: Nobel Peace Prize Edition

[tonymctones]

wait, this all depends.  If we're saying "what if Bush got the prize at 9 months into his first term with nothing to show for it"  It's at least equally absurd.  If Bush got this prize after knowing the fruits of this full presidency, I'm going to call it way more absurd.  What the hell is your point?  I'm still not getting it.

my point is now listen very closely huggy bear ive stated it 3 times so far...

you have ppl condemning those who are against obama winning this award calling them unamerican, unpatriotic etc...

this is absurd i think a rational person would be upset at the stupidity and down right shameless political nature of this award.

youre statement about ppl being upset if he found a cure for cancer was misplaced on this issue ppl have a legit bitch as youve agreed so youre simply giving credence to those idiots who think that obama deserves this award and that those who disagree are unpatriotic and unamerican.

[Hugo Chavez]

my point is now listen very closely huggy bear ive stated it 3 times so far...

you have ppl condemning those who are against obama winning this award calling them unamerican, unpatriotic etc...

this is absurd i think a rational person would be upset at the stupidity and down right shameless political nature of this award.

youre statement about ppl being upset if he found a cure for cancer was misplaced on this issue ppl have a legit bitch as youve agreed so youre simply giving credence to those idiots who think that obama deserves this award and that those who disagree are unpatriotic and unamerican.

no i don't agree in calling people unAmerican for thinking this is a bad choice.  Naomi Kline and others on the left came out against it right away today.  The only thing I will state for a certainty is that some people have no weight in their criticism since they would be against it even if Obama did deserve it.  I guarantee that it wouldn't matter if Obama deserved it, Rush would be rooting against him and would come out against him if he got it, even if he did deserve it.  I suspect the same of Glenn Beck, Hannity and probably 3333, who would find some angle to say it was bullshit.

[tonymctones]

no i don't agree in calling people unAmerican for thinking this is a bad choice.  Naomi Kline and others on the left came out against it right away today.  The only thing I will state for a certainty is that some people have no weight in their criticism since they would be against it even if Obama did deserve it.  I guarantee that it wouldn't matter if Obama deserved it, Rush would be rooting against him and would come out against him if he got it, even if he did deserve it.  I suspect the same of Glenn Beck, Hannity and probably 3333, who would find some angle to say it was bullshit.

no doubt like i said there will always be ppl like that on both sides of the isle but on this point their criticism is legit and simply b/c they go after him for everything doesnt make them wrong or their points on this issue any less valid.

[RJ DRIVER]

What has he done to deserve this award other then talk?  Ok so he says he wants world peace... so do I shouldnt I get gthe award to.  In order to win something like this he must do something first everyone can talk a big game few can back it up, I hope he proves me wrong.

[Hugo Chavez]

no doubt like i said there will always be ppl like that on both sides of the isle but on this point their criticism is legit and simply b/c they go after him for everything doesnt make them wrong or their points on this issue any less valid.

people like that are never legit, that's what I'm saying.  They lose all weight to any valid criticism.

[Hugo Chavez]

What has he done to deserve this award other then talk?  Ok so he says he wants world peace... so do I shouldnt I get gthe award to.  In order to win something like this he must do something first everyone can talk a big game few can back it up, I hope he proves me wrong.

exactly

[tonymctones]

people like that are never legit, that's what I'm saying.  They lose all weight to any valid criticism.

lol then 240 et al in the liberal brigade here have no weight in their views either as they did the same thing with bush and now praise obama for everything from the beer summit to walking away from rev. wright even though he sat in his church for 20 yrs

wouldnt you agree?

[Hugo Chavez]

lol then 240 et al in the liberal brigade here have no weight in their views either as they did the same thing with bush and now praise obama for everything from the beer summit to walking away from rev. wright even though he sat in his church for 20 yrs

wouldnt you agree?

Tony, you may not like it but 240 doesn't always side one way.  Neither do I and I hope I've established that by now.  You can't say 240 is going to side on something by default.  On this issue with the nobel peace prize I have no idea how he would side.  But people like Rush, it's a SURE BET NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHAT....  SURE BET... 

The pure pundit has zero value and no weight imo...

[tonymctones]

Tony, you may not like it but 240 doesn't always side one way.  Neither do I and I hope I've established that by now.  You can't say 240 is going to side on something by default.  On this issue with the nobel peace prize I have no idea how he would side.  But people like Rush, it's a SURE BET NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHAT....  SURE BET... 

The pure pundit has zero value and no weight imo...

no no i in no way lump you in with 240, blacken, benny, straw etc...i probably would have a year or so ago though 

dude i understand you and 240 go back aways but you know and i know the guy is a straight up tool and sides with obama 110% of the time.

I agree with you about rush, hannity etc...and how they lose credibility all im saying is the same thing applies to 240 et al. and by your logic you would have to agree.

[240 is Back]

tony, you must type the word '240' about 240 times a day. 

i own your mind

That being said, obviously obama hasn't earned it.  he was nominated because he wasn't bush, and in his opening 10 months of being in office, he has initiated some anti-nuclear programs and he's healed a lot of old wounds from recently and decades ago.  Doesn't mean shit to you, but when these young muslims potential crazy bastards see Obama on their soil telling them it was a mistake to kick iran's leader out 50 years ago, that makes less of them want ot kill us.  You can deny it, but it's true.  They're taught to hate us.  When the most popular man in the world comes to your land and says "seriously, sorry about that dude", a lot of those nuts get over the grudge and move on.

So he's being given the award because he has the power to shift the world in a better direction.  Nobody else does, to be honest. 

We'll see if he earns it or not.

[tonymctones]

tony, you must type the word '240' about 240 times a day. 

i own your mind

That being said, obviously obama hasn't earned it.  he was nominated because he wasn't bush, and in his opening 10 months of being in office, he has initiated some anti-nuclear programs and he's healed a lot of old wounds from recently and decades ago.  Doesn't mean shit to you, but when these young muslims potential crazy bastards see Obama on their soil telling them it was a mistake to kick iran's leader out 50 years ago, that makes less of them want ot kill us.  You can deny it, but it's true.  They're taught to hate us.  When the most popular man in the world comes to your land and says "seriously, sorry about that dude", a lot of those nuts get over the grudge and move on.

So he's being given the award because he has the power to shift the world in a better direction.  Nobody else does, to be honest. 

We'll see if he earns it or not.

LOL you see this hugo this is what im talking about

240 the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks into his presidency...2 fuking weeks

he had no time to inact any talk, or any legislation about nuclear disarmorment and what you just tried to pass of is a bull shit lie

there is no "and" "ifs" or "buts" about this he didnt deserve the award the fact that you come in here and try to put in a caveat into your statement and act like your coming out against it doesnt work hoss...

let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?

also the mind owning thing is for the G&O and those retards I admit its fun to go there and fuck about but dont get the two confused. 

[240 is Back]

LOL you see this hugo this is what im talking about

240 the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks into his presidency...2 fuking weeks

he had no time to inact any talk, or any legislation about nuclear disarmorment and what you just tried to pass of is a bull shit lie

there is no "and" "ifs" or "buts" about this he didnt deserve the award the fact that you come in here and try to put in a caveat into your statement and act like your coming out against it doesnt work hoss...

let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?

also the mind owning thing is for the G&O and those retards I admit its fun to go there and fuck about but dont get the two confused. 

he was nominated because the committee knew he might actually follow thru on the anti-nuke agenda .... which he has.  They had to put the nomination in, along with the others.  Then, obama had the most impact on world peace in the following 9 months, than the other nominees.  So he won.  Nominations and selections didn't happen on Feb 2 - the selection was way later


also - seriously - you write my name a hundred times a day here - which means you think of me a lot in your normal life - which isn't normal...

[tonymctones]

he was nominated because the committee knew he might actually follow thru on the anti-nuke agenda .... which he has.  They had to put the nomination in, along with the others.  Then, obama had the most impact on world peace in the following 9 months, than the other nominees.  So he won.  Nominations and selections didn't happen on Feb 2 - the selection was way later


also - seriously - you write my name a hundred times a day here - which means you think of me a lot in your normal life - which isn't normal...

LOL wow again HUGO ARE YOU SEEING THIS SHIT??? SERIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

how can this dousch still have any credibility?

LOL so he has had more impact on world piece then any other person that was nominated? do you know the other ppl that were nominated?

lol in regards to you last statement if thats true then you must have palin posters up on your wall as well as obama commerative plates filling your cabinets 

[240 is Back]

let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?

1) Obama is about to settle Afghanistan with diplomacy - giving the taleban a voice in the govt (as cheney/bush recommended mind you).  Al-Q is dead... headhunter even confirms that.  he'll give them a voice, they put down guns.  Russia should have done it - and Bush said we'd do it.  This is why the pentagon is pissed - O is giving signs he wants peace without a surge and 150k permanent troops (the way Bush ended iraq... permant occupancy)

2) Maybe Obama can prevent iran nukes, either thru sanctions or precision strikes which limit their ability to F up the region with nukes, keeping the region safer.

3) Maybe obama can scale back world nuke stockpiles....

If he does any of these - he deserves it.  If he doesn't, then he doesn't.    Now, please, brush your teeth and get my name out of your dental.  it's looking sad that you mention me in every other post dude.

[240 is Back]

LOL so he has had more impact on world piece then any other person that was nominated?

IF Obama does any of these, he will have deserved the award.  Three tasks that Bush couldn't do, that russia and UK couldnt do, that nobody could do.   Afghanistan, iran, and Nukes are 3 big problems that NOBODY has been able to fix for the last 50 years.  It's a tall order - but if he does any of them, bra-vo.

if he fails... the the award was nothing more than europe sucking up and praying for a peaceful US 4- or 8-year presidency.

[tonymctones]

1) Obama is about to settle Afghanistan with diplomacy - giving the taleban a voice in the govt (as cheney/bush recommended mind you).  Al-Q is dead... headhunter even confirms that.  he'll give them a voice, they put down guns.  Russia should have done it - and Bush said we'd do it.  This is why the pentagon is pissed - O is giving signs he wants peace without a surge and 150k permanent troops (the way Bush ended iraq... permant occupancy)

2) Maybe Obama can prevent iran nukes, either thru sanctions or precision strikes which limit their ability to F up the region with nukes, keeping the region safer.

3) Maybe obama can scale back world nuke stockpiles....

If he does any of these - he deserves it.  If he doesn't, then he doesn't.    Now, please, brush your teeth and get my name out of your dental.  it's looking sad that you mention me in every other post dude.

IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF LOL he hasnt done shit he didnt deserve the award you come on here act like your against him getting it and then defend it? seriously?

do you think he deserved it or not?

theres not a "no, but..."

again huggy bear i seriously hope youre watching this bro, please dont defend this dousch anymore at least not to me bro.

[Hugo Chavez]

LOL you see this hugo this is what im talking about

240 the dead line for nominations was 2 weeks into his presidency...2 fuking weeks

he had no time to inact any talk, or any legislation about nuclear disarmorment and what you just tried to pass of is a bull shit lie

there is no "and" "ifs" or "buts" about this he didnt deserve the award the fact that you come in here and try to put in a caveat into your statement and act like your coming out against it doesnt work hoss...

let me ask you a question 240 if as a result of this obama decides against a surge in afghanistan and we end up losing there would you still be ok with him recieving this award?

also the mind owning thing is for the G&O and those retards I admit its fun to go there and fuck about but dont get the two confused.  

dude, what do you expect.  You stalk 240.  He's your white whale on the board.  Don't drag me into your battle asking me to denounce him.  AND YOU'RE THE ONE that keeps bringing up 240 to me.

[240 is Back]

IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF LOL he hasnt done shit he didnt deserve the award you come on here act like your against him getting it and then defend it? seriously?

do you think he deserved it or not?

theres not a "no, but..."

again huggy bear i seriously hope youre watching this bro, please dont defend this dousch anymore at least not to me bro.

Learn to spell "douche", mmkay?

He doesn't deserve it yet - that is obvious to anyone with half a brain.  He ADMITS it himself.  

He will deserve it if he achieves any of these goals.
He will not deserve it if he does not.

Now, please go get laid or something dude.  When 240 tells you that you're taking the poli board way too seriously, you should realllllly step back and just have a drink and enjoy your evneing.  NOBODY here is saying obama accomplished shit to deserve it - Obama included.  You're arguing with your own shadow here.

[tonymctones]

Learn to spell "douche", mmkay?

He doesn't deserve it yet - that is obvious to anyone with half a brain.  He ADMITS it himself.  

He will deserve it if he achieves any of these goals.
He will not deserve it if he does not.

Now, please go get laid or something dude.  When 240 tells you that you're taking the poli board way too seriously, you should realllllly step back and just have a drink and enjoy your evneing.  NOBODY here is saying obama accomplished shit to deserve it - Obama included.  You're arguing with your own shadow here.

if he doesnt deserve it yet HE DOESNT FUKING DESERVE IT!!!!! plain and simple

[240 is Back]

if he doesnt deserve it yet HE DOESNT FUKING DESERVE IT!!!!! plain and simple

Correct.  This was already stated by 240:

He doesn't deserve it

as well as Obama stating it:

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize

Now.... who the hell are you arguing with, dude? 


WHO SAYS HE DESERVES IT? 

Nobody.  You're having a fistfight with your shadow man.

[Egil]

I am norwegian, and therefore obviously has a different view on USA and your president... or rather different angle...

What you guys didn't feel and "live" was the change that happend in europe when GWB and Big O changed seats.

It was like the rest of the world let their shoulders down... The reactions to his speeches and his change of attitude towards the rest of the world gave US hope that there was change coming!

WE see that the politic towards nukes and how he plans to change the american warfare is s bold and courageous move!

By giving this prize to Big O the Nobel Commitee (?) both rewards the change that your president allready has made and further encourages his efforts to continue his work for getting rid of nukes and using his power in the best interest of the whole world...

Even though you are just 5% of the worlds population, you have more power and influence than any other country in the world.

During GWB USA acted like you were 95% of the world fighting the remaining 5%....Now you have a POTUS that knows both geography and politics enough to actually realize that your 5% needs to cooperate with the rest of the world to make it through the ongoing problems with war and climate changes.

The award to Big O is discussed in europe also, but no one is as harsh towards the president than his own countrymen...

(I apologize for the errors in writing)

[240 is Back]

Even though you are just 5% of the worlds population, you have more power and influence
The award to Big O is discussed in europe also, but no one is as harsh towards the president than his own countrymen...

Very interesting.

[blacken700]

I am norwegian, and therefore obviously has a different view on USA and your president... or rather different angle...

What you guys didn't feel and "live" was the change that happend in europe when GWB and Big O changed seats.

It was like the rest of the world let their shoulders down... The reactions to his speeches and his change of attitude towards the rest of the world gave US hope that there was change coming!



WE see that the politic towards nukes and how he plans to change the american warfare is s bold and courageous move!

By giving this prize to Big O the Nobel Commitee (?) both rewards the change that your president allready has made and further encourages his efforts to continue his work for getting rid of nukes and using his power in the best interest of the whole world...

Even though you are just 5% of the worlds population, you have more power and influence than any other country in the world.

During GWB USA acted like you were 95% of the world fighting the remaining 5%....Now you have a POTUS that knows both geography and politics enough to actually realize that your 5% needs to cooperate with the rest of the world to make it through the ongoing problems with war and climate changes.

The award to Big O is discussed in europe also, but no one is as harsh towards the president than his own countrymen...

(I apologize for the errors in writing)

thats the reason great job writing , do you understand tonymctones, to the rest of the world its not a political thing

[Soul Crusher]

The cock sucking that is going on for Obama worldwide is just sickening.  This mullato marxist stooge who has never even authored a law review article, let alone a book on his own, has never done a damn thing to warrant an ounce of the praise heaped upon him.  He is a hack politician like the rest of them and you little children look up to him like the slaves in NK do KJI. 

You suckers are just longing for a benevolent king who will tell you what to do, how to do it, and rule your life. 

Embarassing.

[blacken700]

The cock sucking that is going on for Obama worldwide is just sickening.  This mullato marxist stooge who has never even authored a law review article, let alone a book on his own, has never done a damn thing to warrant an ounce of the praise heaped upon him.  He is a hack politician like the rest of them and you little children look up to him like the slaves in NK do KJI. 

You suckers are just longing for a benevolent king who will tell you what to do, how to do it, and rule your life. 

the only thing

Embarassing.

the only thing Embarassing. is your post sore loser