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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Danimal77 on October 11, 2009, 02:38:50 PM
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Never seen this one before. Looks like he shot some escalene in those delts....Looking funky.
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looks built. Any recent pics form prison? His he still holding his size?
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looks built. Any recent pics form prison? His he still holding his size?
He was the first real mass monster, but never got the respect her deserved. Offseason that mofo weighed 260 pounds and sported 22" arms at his largest.
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Even now lookin huge.
But poses like a idiot.
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was he a midget?
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Even now lookin huge.
You've visited him in prison?
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You've visited him in prison?
well, did you?
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well, did you?
HABBA BABBA?
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Definitely doesn't have his Daddy's genetics. :-\
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Never seen this one before. Looks like he shot some escalene in those delts....Looking funky.
He was 43 in that clip.
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dude has a killer physique for sure
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Bertil Fox is a tiny wee guy when you see him in real life. About 5ft 7 with bird like bones. Similar to larry Scott. This is why he looks massive standing on his own at 210lbs. Most of that weight is muscle because of his light frame so he looks huge. Arms around 18.5.
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He was the first real mass monster, but never got the respect her deserved. Offseason that mofo weighed 260 pounds and sported 22" arms at his largest.
;) Ever here of a guy named SERGIO . Roy Calendar was quite large also .
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He was also known for lifting very heavy weights with loose form.
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Brutal Denzel Washington look a like
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Bertil Fox is a tiny wee guy when you see him in real life. About 5ft 7 with bird like bones. Similar to larry Scott. This is why he looks massive standing on his own at 210lbs. Most of that weight is muscle because of his light frame so he looks huge. Arms around 18.5.
You gotta be kidding me!!!!!! Way to go in posting his THINNEST pic EVER in competition. His arms were 22" at his largest. You have NO IDEA what you're talking about, his bones looking like that of a bird?
He ALWAYS dieted down because that's what he thought the judges wanted him to do. If he didn't, he would be 230-235 in competition and 260 offseason, which he was:
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18.5" arms?????????? HAHAHAHAHAHA
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He was a BEAST who was FORCED to lose size to win competitions....
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THINNEST
I will certainly use this word
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One of my favorite bodybuilders of ALL-TIME:
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One of my favorite bodybuilders of ALL-TIME:
NICE LIFE
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Would have destroyed the competition of today if he competed in 2009.
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18.5" arms?????????? HAHAHAHAHAHA
I haven't seen those old white cans of Weider supplements in a while. ;D
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Would have destroyed MURDERED the competition of today if he competed in 2009.
FIXED
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FIXED
Anyone been over to visit Big Bertil in that rat hole over in St Kitts and give him so Weider supplements?
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Would have destroyed the competition of today if he competed in 2009.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but he really was very small. About the same size as Ronnie Coleman's leg. At his best when he won NABBA Universe we weighed 210 lbs. Yes his arms look massive on their own but his head was tiny. Check the vidoe of the 1983 Olympia and you will see that Samir was actually larger than Fox when standing side by side. Fox was similar in size to Makkaway.
His small man syndrome caused his violent attacks. In London he worked on the subway as a porter. He tried to make driver several times but failed the phychometric tests which showed that he was borderline psychotic and shouldn't be in charge of the lives of 500 passengers.
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Bertil Fox surely enjoyed lifting weights, no doubt about it.
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I'm sorry to burst your bubble but he really was very small. About the same size as Ronnie Coleman's leg. At his best when he won NABBA Universe we weighed 210 lbs. Yes his arms look massive on their own but his head was tiny. Check the vidoe of the 1983 Olympia and you will see that Samir was actually larger than Fox when standing side by side. Fox was similar in size to Makkaway.
His small man syndrome caused his violent attacks. In London he worked on the subway as a porter. He tried to make driver several times but failed the phychometric tests which showed that he was borderline psychotic and shouldn't be in charge of the lives of 500 passengers.
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All upperbody-from-the-front.
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So, not was he only overlooked in 1982-1983, but he's still being overlooked in 2009 by complete fucking idiots who claim that he was the same size as 5'2" 160 pound Mohammed Makkaway.. ::) ::) ::)
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I'm sorry to burst your bubble but he really was very small. About the same size as Ronnie Coleman's leg. At his best when he won NABBA Universe we weighed 210 lbs. Yes his arms look massive on their own but his head was tiny. Check the vidoe of the 1983 Olympia and you will see that Samir was actually larger than Fox when standing side by side. Fox was similar in size to Makkaway.
His small man syndrome caused his violent attacks. In London he worked on the subway as a porter. He tried to make driver several times but failed the phychometric tests which showed that he was borderline psychotic and shouldn't be in charge of the lives of 500 passengers.
Have you ever personally seen him back in the early 80's. You must be at least 6'6" and 350 pounds to say he was small. Do you have your glasses on
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Have you ever personally seen him back in the early 80's. You must be at least 6'6" and 350 pounds to say he was small. Do you have your glasses on
Yes I saw him many times since the 70's competing and guest posing at the NABBA shows. At a Mr North East of Britain show I couldn't believe how massive he looked on stage then later on I stood next to him at the bar and realised how tiny he is in real life. I'm 5ft 10 and 220 lbs. He came up to my shoulder.
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Yes I saw him many times since the 70's competing and guest posing at the NABBA shows. At a Mr North East of Britain show I couldn't believe how massive he looked on stage then later on I stood next to him at the bar and realised how tiny he is in real life. I'm 5ft 10 and 220 lbs. He came up to my shoulder.
Yet he was only about 3" shorter than 5'11.5" Lee Haney in 1983. Tough guy.
YEAH, you're apparently the same height as 5'9"-5'10" Sergio Oliva and Bertil can barely see over his SHOULDER because he's short as a midget and as frail as a bird ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
ALSO, he's the same size as Makkaway eh? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Fucking moron...
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I was just thinking as the thread started "Damn dudes arms are huge!" Then some moron chimes in with , 18inch arms. So what were Lee's? 16", cause Bertil's are smashing his!
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Fox' biggest drawback was his lack of width and subpar legs...as far as muscularity was concerned, he could stand his own with anyone...
Great from the front, mediocre from the back
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Bertil looked great in certain poses and in gym shots but when he dieted down he was a lot less impressive
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Bertil looked great in certain poses and in gym shots but when he dieted down he was a lot less impressive
Well, the pic with Albert should put one debate to rest...BOTH are 5'7
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Well, the pic with Albert should put one debate to rest...BOTH are 5'7
Yeah I think I've always seen Bertil listed at around 5'8" max
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big beef it Betil
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Shitty bicep peaks on Beckles - more like troughs
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Bertil said he was "About 5'8 I think" in the DVD below [note: the links need to be updated, go directly to the http://www.GMV.com.au website if you want to check out Bertil's DVD]:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfoxseminarandposingdvdreview.html
I think Bertil was having a little trouble with the conversation, but I do not think he was below 5'8. He stood about the same height as Rich Gaspari who was around 5'8:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/5.jpg)
Bertil's lack of width was only prominent in the back poses. From the front I think this weakness was not as apparent:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/77.jpg)
My website is a nice little archive with lots of DVD screencaps from the GMV vids, unfortunately no one is really interested in the history of bodybuilding other than Tim Fogarty, Joe Roark, and myself. ;D
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I should start some GWs, you'd fall FAST!
Bertil said he was "About 5'8 I think" in the DVD below [note: the links need to be updated, go directly to the http://www.GMV.com.au website if you want to check out Bertil's DVD]:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfoxseminarandposingdvdreview.html
I think Bertil was having a little trouble with the conversation, but I do not think he was below 5'8. He stood about the same height as Rich Gaspari who was around 5'8:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/5.jpg)
Bertil's lack of width was only prominent in the back poses. From the front I think this weakness was not as apparent:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/77.jpg)
My website is a nice little archive with lots of DVD screencaps from the GMV vids, unfortunately no one is really interested in the history of bodybuilding other than Tim Fogarty, Joe Roark, and myself. ;D
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I should start some GWs, you'd fall FAST!
Hmm...good point. I will start first.
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Bertil looked great in certain poses and in gym shots but when he dieted down he was a lot less impressive
You had no one to blame but the judges and the criteria they judged the competitors by. Bertil was forced to lose his trademark size in order to be competitive with lightweights (of which he naturally wasn't).
I remember having read an article from Muscle and Fitness from the early 80's and he said that the judges wanted him to go down to Boyer Coes size (210 pounds) and he said they're making me be the same size as that damn YANK who I outweigh by 25 pounds and he doesn't have a pair of 22" arms like I do.
Anyways, at the end of the day he gave into the judges and ended up losing anyways and by the mid 80's, he was a SHADOW of his former self.
A 1982/1983 Bertil, if encouraged to maintain his mass would have been a forced to be reckoned with by 1987.
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Well, the pic with Albert should put one debate to rest...BOTH are 5'7
Albert's a bit closer to the camera. Bertil was 5'8" in his younger days. You can see that when he's doing a side chest with 5'11"+ Lee Haney.
And we have a guy on here claiming that Bertil came up to his shoulders and this guy is only 5'10". ::)
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Fox' biggest drawback was his lack of width and subpar legs...
I think in retrospect, he probably saw his hair-trigger temper and association with mouthy people as bigger drawbacks for him.
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Bertil said he was "About 5'8 I think" in the DVD below [note: the links need to be updated, go directly to the http://www.GMV.com.au website if you want to check out Bertil's DVD]:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfoxseminarandposingdvdreview.html
I think Bertil was having a little trouble with the conversation, but I do not think he was below 5'8. He stood about the same height as Rich Gaspari who was around 5'8:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1987mrolympiadvdreview.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/5.jpg)
Bertil's lack of width was only prominent in the back poses. From the front I think this weakness was not as apparent:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/77.jpg)
My website is a nice little archive with lots of DVD screencaps from the GMV vids, unfortunately no one is really interested in the history of bodybuilding other than Tim Fogarty, Joe Roark, and myself. ;D
Gaspari also got 5'9" listings in the 80's, but he was closer to 5'8". Haney had 3" on him. Haney was 5'11", even though I've sen him described as 5'11".5" and 6'0" at times (he was taller than Dorian in 1991).
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Bertil could allegedly bench press 525 for 3-4 reps at his strongest.
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well it seems many young gays today dont know big beef it betil fox, but all knows the dude had crazy ass pecs and arm s and was the gratest bb of the 80s. anfortunlatly he got fucked over by the penile system sent to st kitts prision by two mouthy whores who got away scott free like womens always do when the law gets invol ved. all pleas e remmebr this grate bb, hed have 7 or 8 os alredy but now hes not even on staige cuz of the brainlees legal
fucking gorila
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(http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Denzel-Washington---Devil-in-a-Blue-Dress-Photograph-C10101681.jpeg)
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Even now lookin huge.
But poses like a idiot.
not only does he pose like an idiot...the poses he "picks/creates" are idiotic.
he always irritated the fuck out of me. never liked his physique except for when it was in a tank top.
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Bertils main problem was that he had no idea about dieting,and as more guys got into shredded condition in the 80s,he didn`t have the nutrition knowledge to keep up with them.Ron Davies,who used to be the president of the EFBB and the head judge at the olympia told me that Bertil never took any advice on nutrition and how he`d starve himself for a few days then eat jars of peanut butter,Rick Wayne talked about this on a documentary.Plus he never took responsibility for how he looked it was always the "white" judges fault,he absolutely hates whites,thats what pushed him over the edge when he killed the two women.He found out she had been having an affair with a white guy.And Bertil is about 5`7"-5`8",i`ve met him a couple of times,and what Big Al means is that when you see him in clothes he doesn`t look particularly big,he`s got fairly narrow shoulders.Onstage is a different matter.
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well it seems many young gays today dont know big beef it betil fox, but all knows the dude had crazy ass pecs and arm s and was the gratest bb of the 80s. anfortunlatly he got fucked over by the penile system sent to st kitts prision by two mouthy whores who got away scott free like womens always do when the law gets invol ved. all pleas e remmebr this grate bb, hed have 7 or 8 os alredy but now hes not even on staige cuz of the brainlees legal
fucking gorila
Although im a fan of Bertil,he wouldnt have '7 or 8 os' by now,he was well finished in bodybuilding by the time he got iin trouble
And the two mouthy bitches who 'got away scott free' were infact shot to death in the incident
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well it seems many young gays today dont know big beef it betil fox, but all knows the dude had crazy ass pecs and arm s and was the gratest bb of the 80s. anfortunlatly he got fucked over by the penile system sent to st kitts prision by two mouthy whores who got away scott free like womens always do when the law gets invol ved. all pleas e remmebr this grate bb, hed have 7 or 8 os alredy but now hes not even on staige cuz of the brainlees legal
fucking gorila
Legendary. ;D
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Bertils main problem was that he had no idea about dieting,and as more guys got into shredded condition in the 80s,he didn`t have the nutrition knowledge to keep up with them.Ron Davies,who used to be the president of the EFBB and the head judge at the olympia told me that Bertil never took any advice on nutrition and how he`d starve himself for a few days then eat jars of peanut butter,Rick Wayne talked about this on a documentary.Plus he never took responsibility for how he looked it was always the "white" judges fault,he absolutely hates whites,thats what pushed him over the edge when he killed the two women.He found out she had been having an affair with a white guy.And Bertil is about 5`7"-5`8",i`ve met him a couple of times,and what Big Al means is that when you see him in clothes he doesn`t look particularly big,he`s got fairly narrow shoulders.Onstage is a different matter.
Thanks Crownshep, nice to know that someone is sensible enough to understand the point I was making. The first time I stood next to him he was wearing a tracksuit and he looked like a normal person. It was his muscle incertions which made him look so large. If someone has a picture of the final 6 lineup at the 83 Olympia you can see that he does not outmuscle Sammir when standing next to him. On his own though he looks like a monster.
Did you see the documentary about Bertil ? It showed him coming out of the court wearing one of his suits which he must have bought when he was big. He looked like he weighed 150lbs and with his old suit on he looked like a little boy wearing his daddys suite for a joke.
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Thanks Crownshep, nice to know that someone is sensible enough to understand the point I was making. The first time I stood next to him he was wearing a tracksuit and he looked like a normal person. It was his muscle incertions which made him look so large. If someone has a picture of the final 6 lineup at the 83 Olympia you can see that he does not outmuscle Sammir when standing next to him. On his own though he looks like a monster.
Did you see the documentary about Bertil ? It showed him coming out of the court wearing one of his suits which he must have bought when he was big. He looked like he weighed 150lbs and with his old suit on he looked like a little boy wearing his daddys suite for a joke.
Dude, your writing is more of a personal attack against the guy. Did he do or say something to hurt your feelings?
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Bertil's main problem is the penil system.
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well it seems many young gays today dont know big beef it betil fox, but all knows the dude had crazy ass pecs and arm s and was the gratest bb of the 80s. anfortunlatly he got fucked over by the penile system sent to st kitts prision by two mouthy whores who got away scott free like womens always do when the law gets invol ved. all pleas e remmebr this grate bb, hed have 7 or 8 os alredy but now hes not even on staige cuz of the brainlees legal
fucking gorila
this.
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Did you see the documentary about Bertil ? It showed him coming out of the court wearing one of his suits which he must have bought when he was big. He looked like he weighed 150lbs and with his old suit on he looked like a little boy wearing his daddys suite for a joke.
Yes i did,i also remember the pic in Flex magazine where he wore the suit at a court appearance and the collar looked about 4 inch too big for his neck.You`re right when you use the words "muscle insertions",the two most impressive arms i`ve ever seen up close were Danny Padilla and Makkawy who were known for that quality.
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Bertil was so narrow. ;D
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/brutalbertilfoxintraining1/h_79_small.JPG)
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Thank you Matt, something positive from you about Bertil. By the way, standing next to him in a bar one time probably doesn't make you an expert on his height Big Al. Nice try though.
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Bertil was so narrow. ;D
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/brutalbertilfoxintraining1/h_79_small.JPG)
260 pounds of offseason NARROWNESS right there.
Besides, BIG AL makes EVERYONE look tiny :-*
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I bet anyone who says Bertil was narrow or not that big has never ever seen him in person. I have told the story a few times on here. But I was at World Gym the first day he came in. Kal was so excited. He was going around making sure everyone knew Bertil was there. He was enormous. I was about 240 at the time and he was just HUGE and THICK and strong as fuck. I love it on here where people put down people they have never ever met. Unless you have seen Bertil in person (more than just seeing him across the room) and watched him train then honestly you don't know shit. That picture of him and Arnold is how I saw him.
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Thank you Matt, something positive from you about Bertil. By the way, standing next to him in a bar one time probably doesn't make you an expert on his height Big Al. Nice try though.
I did say before that Bertil's form was bad, which is true if you look at his cadence. However, I also admitted that Bertil was likely stronger than 90% of current pros. Also, I don't care how bad your form is, if you bench 500+ for reps with a full range of motion, you are strong by any definition.
Here are some links and pictures of Bertil Fox if anyone is interested:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfox.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/brutalbertilfoxdvd.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfoxseminarandposingdvdreview.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfoxbrutalbertilfoxintrainingdvdreview.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfoxbrutalbertilfoxintraining2dvdreview.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfoxbrutalbertilfoxintraining2dvdreview2.html
http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=851
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfox2.jpg)
He's still a legend in bodybuilding.
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I bet anyone who says Bertil was narrow or not that big has never ever seen him in person. I have told the story a few times on here. But I was at World Gym the first day he came in. Kal was so excited. He was going around making sure everyone knew Bertil was there. He was enormous. I was about 240 at the time and he was just HUGE and THICK and strong as fuck. I love it on here where people put down people they have never ever met. Unless you have seen Bertil in person (more than just seeing him across the room) and watched him train then honestly you don't know shit. That picture of him and Arnold is how I saw him.
I've met the guy maybe 10 times. Crownshep says he has met him too. We both say he looks small in clothes and is not as big as he looks.
All you other dudes who have not met him think he is so large. By the way, he was my choice for Mr Olympia 1982 and 1983 and is probably my favourite physique since the late 1960's when he won Junior Mr Britain at the age of 17.
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The pic of him with Arnold is when he was in off season shape,me and Al are talking about seeing him in clothes in contest condition,look at the pic above when he competed at 194.Bertil was not naturally wide,you only have to see the rear lat spread of him when he dieted down for the 82 NOC.I`m not someone who has "seen him across the room",i`ve seen most top pros from the 80s and 90s train up close,they all trained at Nottingham health club when i worked there when they competed in the grand prixs.Its only a couple of weeks ago on here that people who saw Jay in clothes in contest shape weighing about 260 were calling him small,now when me and Al say we have seen Bertil in clothes in contest shape and his weight varied from 194 to probably 220,and thats not supposedly small.
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The pic of him with Arnold is when he was in off season shape,me and Al are talking about seeing him in clothes in contest condition,look at the pic above when he competed at 194.Bertil was not naturally wide,you only have to see the rear lat spread of him when he dieted down for the 82 NOC.I`m not someone who has "seen him across the room",i`ve seen most top pros from the 80s and 90s train up close,they all trained at Nottingham health club when i worked there when they competed in the grand prixs.Its only a couple of weeks ago on here that people who saw Jay in clothes in contest shape weighing about 260 were calling him small,now when me and Al say we have seen Bertil in clothes in contest shape and his weight varied from 194 to probably 220,and thats not supposedly small.
wow... look at these photos... Fuller, Mentzer, Dave Jones all dead... Fox in jail for double homicide...
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Bodybuilding's O.J for sure. :-\