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Title: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: alnassak on October 14, 2009, 12:31:52 AM
Jay is crushing Dorian EVERYWHERE!!  :-X

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: alnassak on October 14, 2009, 12:34:12 AM
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Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: alnassak on October 14, 2009, 12:36:36 AM
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Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: alnassak on October 14, 2009, 12:38:22 AM
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Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: alnassak on October 14, 2009, 12:40:47 AM
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Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 14, 2009, 12:43:04 AM
Does it bother you that your name looks like "anal sack"?
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: TRIX on October 14, 2009, 12:47:50 AM
Jay would win. Dorian has better lighting and old style camera picture. It's like watching an american tv show or movie, nothing would look like that in real life, ntsc or camera filters they be using
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: honest on October 14, 2009, 01:09:44 AM
I would give it to Dorian, based on his tie ins especially the glute hamstring, lower lats and erectors. But Jay is doing something many others cant, and that is give him a run for his money, he looked great this year.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 14, 2009, 01:34:55 AM
Jay is crushing Dorian EVERYWHERE!!  :-X



I think Jay 09 would give Dorian a run for his money but he isn't crushing . you need pics of Yates when he's actually posing that might help  ;)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 14, 2009, 01:37:55 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kiwiol on October 14, 2009, 02:07:02 AM
Jay is slightly bigger, but Dorian still wins it overall.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: lovemonkey on October 14, 2009, 02:36:24 AM
Jay is slightly bigger, but Dorian still wins it overall.

If one of them would make you their dog that they can sexually abuse, who would it be?
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mars on October 14, 2009, 02:42:02 AM
not again ::)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on October 14, 2009, 04:21:11 AM
not again ::)

thick beyond belief :o
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: JasonH on October 14, 2009, 04:50:39 AM
Cutler's 09 look was the best he's probably ever been but I would still give it to Dorian - '95 was his best conditioning in all his Olympia wins, even taking the torn bicep into account.

Close call though.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on October 14, 2009, 05:35:56 AM
Cutler's 09 look was the best he's probably ever been but I would still give it to Dorian - '95 was his best conditioning in all his Olympia wins, even taking the torn bicep into account.

Close call though.

but i believe dorian's legs was better in 93 than in 95..
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: the_steevo_uk on October 14, 2009, 05:47:39 AM
I have no idea why people still insist on comparing a competitor from 1995 with one from 2009, its completely pointless. The advances in nutrition and 'chemicals' in that time have been enormous, they both look great...but theres always some fool who insists on doing a comparison as if it means anything...

15 years gentlemen...thats a while in any professional sport.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: tendonitis on October 14, 2009, 05:49:15 AM
the fridge shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with the great Yates
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on October 14, 2009, 05:50:34 AM
I have no idea why people still insist on comparing a competitor from 1995 with one from 2009, its completely pointless. The advances in nutrition and 'chemicals' in that time have been enormous, they both look great...but theres always some fool who insists on doing a comparison as if it means anything...

15 years gentlemen...thats a while in any professional sport.

these comparisons are all to show that bb in the 90s was better than now (which is true).. even flex mag. has started to compare the top pros of the 90s with the top pros of today..
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Colossus_1986 on October 14, 2009, 06:06:47 AM
Jay wins.
not crushes...
but jay beats him in majority of poses.

Sry ND, don't hate me  :P
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: lovemonkey on October 14, 2009, 06:10:20 AM
DOES THIS IMPLY THAT JAY'S BEST IS BETTER THAN RONNIE'S BEST??
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: dave19 on October 14, 2009, 06:14:33 AM
Conditioning : Yates
Standing Relaxed : Jay : more overall mass esp in the legs
Ab&Quads : Tie - Yates' upper body looks better while Jay wins on legs.. personally I'd prefer Yates
Front dbl biceps : Jay - the torn arm just ruins it for me
Front Lat : Jay - close call but just more overall mass esp in the legs, Yates looks good though
Side Triceps : Yates - just way more detail
Side Chest : uhm.. I actually can't think of Yates side chest right now
BDB : Yates - Jay's got better arms and his hams look good from behind but he looses on back detail
Rear latspread : Yates
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: njflex on October 14, 2009, 06:34:46 AM
Conditioning : Yates
Standing Relaxed : Jay : more overall mass esp in the legs
Ab&Quads : Tie - Yates' upper body looks better while Jay wins on legs.. personally I'd prefer Yates
Front dbl biceps : Jay - the torn arm just ruins it for me
Front Lat : Jay - close call but just more overall mass esp in the legs, Yates looks good though
Side Triceps : Yates - just way more detail
Side Chest : uhm.. I actually can't think of Yates side chest right now
BDB : Yates - Jay's got better arms and his hams look good from behind but he looses on back detail
Rear latspread : Yates

good comparision,i think side chest is close ,yates looks harder in that pose but jay due to his shoulders and broadness carries that pose as well .
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: MB on October 14, 2009, 06:36:04 AM
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I have no idea why people still insist on comparing a competitor from 1995 with one from 2009, its completely pointless. The advances in nutrition and 'chemicals' in that time have been enormous, they both look great...but theres always some fool who insists on doing a comparison as if it means anything...

What advances have there been in nutrition and drugs the last 15 years?  And if you consider anything the pros today are doing as an "advancement", why is Mr. Olympia 2009 no better than Mr. Olympia 1995? 
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 14, 2009, 06:51:26 AM
Conditioning : Yates
Standing Relaxed : Jay : more overall mass esp in the legs
Ab&Quads : Tie - Yates' upper body looks better while Jay wins on legs.. personally I'd prefer Yates
Front dbl biceps : Jay - the torn arm just ruins it for me
Front Lat : Jay - close call but just more overall mass esp in the legs, Yates looks good though
Side Triceps : Yates - just way more detail
Side Chest : uhm.. I actually can't think of Yates side chest right now
BDB : Yates - Jay's got better arms and his hams look good from behind but he looses on back detail
Rear latspread : Yates


I can't agree with Cutler winning the front lat vs. Yates.  Yates defined that pose.  Also, Cutler's ab/thigh pose is hideous.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 14, 2009, 09:06:43 AM
I think Jay has better shape and more size....I think Jay wins here


....but yeah enough with the "90's comparisions"
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: The_Hammer on October 14, 2009, 10:09:38 AM
Dorian during prejudging of the '95 Olympia

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=SgXWSqntF5HUqwLsgL3HCg&q=mr+olympia+1995# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=SgXWSqntF5HUqwLsgL3HCg&q=mr+olympia+1995#)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Pecs on October 14, 2009, 11:06:23 AM
Jay will really push yates to the limit. It sounds wrong, but when compared to yates, Jay got a prettier body.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr. Magoo on October 14, 2009, 11:27:08 AM
Jay will really push yates to the limit. It sounds wrong, but when compared to yates, Jay got a prettier body.

outed  >:(

 :)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 14, 2009, 12:24:19 PM
Jay will really push yates to the limit. It sounds wrong, but when compared to yates, Jay got a prettier body.

I guess that's subjective.  I think Cutler has the ugliest physique of any Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: delta9mda on October 14, 2009, 12:24:31 PM
I have no idea why people still insist on comparing a competitor from 1995 with one from 2009, its completely pointless. The advances in nutrition and 'chemicals' in that time have been enormous, they both look great...but theres always some fool who insists on doing a comparison as if it means anything...

15 years gentlemen...thats a while in any professional sport.
there are no advances in gear. test, tren, masteron, primo etc. all the same. diets are the same too, and jay is not crushing anyone here.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: bigbobs on October 14, 2009, 12:25:24 PM
countdown for Hulkster to post "Ronnie crushes them both  :'(" and repost the same 4 shots from 1999 that have been posted hundreds of times  ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 14, 2009, 12:25:54 PM
there are no advances in gear. test, tren, masteron, primo etc. all the same. diets are the same too, and jay is not crushing anyone here.

Great post ! there really isn't any great advances between the 90s and now ..70s and 90s sure but it's all still basically the same
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: SPysHagg on October 14, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
left side
(http://i35.tinypic.com/1jlxk7.jpg)

right side
(http://i33.tinypic.com/vcrtqq.jpg)

left side
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2jd5kpk.jpg)

right side
(http://i36.tinypic.com/20033ep.jpg)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 14, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
i'm not surprised jay holds up well. after all, dorian was nothing special from the front, especially post tear as he was in 95. but dorian claims 95 was his best..so he made his bed, now lie in it.

dorian's front lat was famous for his thick lats, but very smooth and detailess every where else.

dorian kills him in the back shots though, although they both have ugly wrinkled skin folds.. :'(
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: hench on October 14, 2009, 03:00:11 PM
dorian wins coz everywhere else but back they are probably pretty equal. dorains superior back puts him ahead, jays entire lower back is missing
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 14, 2009, 03:14:09 PM
i'm not surprised jay holds up well. after all, dorian was nothing special from the front, especially post tear as he was in 95. but dorian claims 95 was his best..so he made his bed, now lie in it.

dorian's front lat was famous for his thick lats, but very smooth and detailess every where else.

dorian kills him in the back shots though, although they both have ugly wrinkled skin folds.. :'(

Flex Magazine June 2002

The lat spread that stunned and revolutionized the bodybuilding world.


His ab-thigh along with his front latspread ( as well as rear ) kill ANYTHING that Ronnie or Jay ever showed , so much for not being special from the front

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: slayer on October 14, 2009, 03:20:04 PM
this is a joke  ;D, jay destroys dorian from start to finish, dorian would'nt even make the top 10 at this yrs olympia looking like that... you guys are retarded at times!

jays back is 2x the sizer of dorian, come on people lol!
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr. Magoo on October 14, 2009, 03:22:51 PM
left side
(http://i35.tinypic.com/1jlxk7.jpg)


epic taking a shit on stage
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 14, 2009, 03:23:18 PM
Flex Magazine June 2002

The lat spread that stunned and revolutionized the bodybuilding world.


His ab-thigh along with his front latspread ( as well as rear ) kill ANYTHING that Ronnie or Jay ever showed , so much for not being special from the front



oh the irony..like I said, thick lats, smooth and crappy everything else: and this is your pic that you posted LOL


ronnie owning them both as always:
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr. Magoo on October 14, 2009, 03:26:13 PM
the only thing that looks good in dorian's front lat spread, is his lats

everything else is nothing special.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 14, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
the only thing that looks good in dorian's front lat spread, is his lats

everything else is nothing special.

no shit. but try telling that to delusional nuthuggers.. ::)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: hench on October 14, 2009, 03:33:17 PM
ah yea the ab/thigh dorian destroys jay on. there is some serious exaggerating that goes on on this board, jays back twice the size of dorians! ::)
Flex Magazine June 2002

The lat spread that stunned and revolutionized the bodybuilding world.


His ab-thigh along with his front latspread ( as well as rear ) kill ANYTHING that Ronnie or Jay ever showed , so much for not being special from the front


Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr. Magoo on October 14, 2009, 03:34:16 PM
ah yea the ab/thigh dorian destroys jay on. there is some serious exaggerating that goes on on this board, jays back twice the size of dorians! ::)

I'm pretty sure that was a joke trapz  ::)

going by the "lol" that was posted.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: hench on October 14, 2009, 03:40:01 PM
you reckon? I dont read it like that. but hey, maybe your right.
 i say its probably quite close between them, some front shots go to jay, some to dorian, side dorian is harder and dryer, deciding factor is the back.
I'm pretty sure that was a joke trapz  ::)

going by the "lol" that was posted.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: tbombz on October 14, 2009, 03:43:12 PM
good point jay beats dorian. on stage it would be even more apparant, as the huge difference in thickness and width would become apparant, expecially in hamstrings arms and chest.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Danimal77 on October 14, 2009, 04:50:58 PM
I guess that's subjective.  I think Cutler has the ugliest physique of any Mr. Olympia.

+1
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 14, 2009, 05:00:30 PM
oh the irony..like I said, thick lats, smooth and crappy everything else: and this is your pic that you posted LOL


ronnie owning them both as always:


yeah sure you can barely see Ronnie's lats and even the execution of the pose he can't even get right like I said the complete pose from head to toe , balanced development , proportionate muscles , density & dryness , muscular bulk there is NO contest in this pose from anyone especially not Ronnie of Jay

Flex Magazine June 2002

The lat spread that stunned and revolutionized the bodybuilding world. It is jumbo-jet wide with giant slabs of rock-hard muscle knitted together with gnarly detail.


stunned & revolutionized , when has anyone claimed this of Ronnie's pose or Jays? gnarly detail  ;)

FROM MARKUS RUHL

October 2000, FLEX

"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING.  HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE.  HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"


Rhul who has a sickass front latspread stating the obvious  ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 14, 2009, 05:02:59 PM
 ;D

Sorry Jay
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 14, 2009, 07:05:33 PM
the fridge shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with the great Yates

  Only good post in the entire thread. I haven't posted in this thrad because it so retarded that it defines description. Jay at his best would definitely give Dorian a run for his money...against Dorian at his worst. So yes, Jay 09 vs Dorian 94' would be a good show. As for Jay 09 vs Dorian 95', it would be like watching a giant trollish caveman raping an albino girl with Down's Syndrome. The very comparison is so retarded that it is beyond me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr. Magoo on October 14, 2009, 07:08:14 PM
  Only good post in the entire thread. I haven't posted in this thrad because it so retarded that it defines description. Jay at his best would definitely give Dorian a run for his money...against Dorian at his worst. So yes, Jay 09 vs Dorian 94' would be a good show. As for Jay 09 vs Dorian 95', it would be like watching a giant trollish caveman raping an albino girl with Down's Syndrome. The very comparison is so retarded that it is beyond me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you've been here since 2004 and THIS is what is beyond you?? A simple photo comparison??

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 14, 2009, 07:11:40 PM
  And by the way, Jay's best was 2006 and not 2009. Some say 2001, but Jay was extremely full and still had his stomach under control in 2006. I think Jay's physique this year was a smightly smaller and more detailed version of his 2006 physique, with less fullness.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 15, 2009, 12:24:55 PM
  Bump for the most retarded thread ever!

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kyomu on October 15, 2009, 12:29:40 PM
Ok, unlike many people, I vote for 2009Jay.
And I am not a fan of him.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 15, 2009, 06:24:53 PM
Like others, I was impressed with the 2009 version of Jay.  He has often been underestimated, but when on his game he is a legit force.  That said, and despite his great showing this year, let's not get carried away.  While I do believe he could give 1995 Yates a run in some ways, let's not delude ourselves into thinking he would dominate. 

When it comes to conditioning, Dorian wrote that book.  Jay could come in on point, but Dorian would still have the edge overall.  No one came in as hard and grainy as Dorian.  In terms of size, Jay has size to spare and may have a slight edge in thickness.  However, Dorian was no slouch here either.  Dorian would hardly be out massed.  Dorian was so dense and conditioned, that he made heavier competitors sometimes appear smaller in comparison.  Nasser is but one example of this.  It would be an interesting scenario, but I don't see Jay coming away with a win over 1995 Dorian.  Not unlike how I could never envision Dorian, under any circumstances, losing his title to Dexter. 



Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 15, 2009, 06:47:13 PM
Quote
He has often been underestimated, but when on his game he is a legit force.  

but only in this current physical climate.

put him in his 09 shape onstage in 99, for example, and he would not even make the top 3:
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 15, 2009, 07:51:47 PM
2009 Jay would crush the 99 flex, 99 Cormier,and the 99 Levrone.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royal Lion on October 15, 2009, 08:13:28 PM
Jay was good enough this year to push both Ronnie and Dorian, even at their respective bests.  However, I still think the quality of Dorian and Ronnie would likely prevail, but I can't be sure.

The bottom line is that no one knows (it is fun to speculate though) unless we see them side by side.  Most of us on here have the sense to realize this, everyone except dumber than delusional Hulkster.  Guy is so Ronnie-obsessed that it's making me sick.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: 3Dkiller on October 15, 2009, 08:33:36 PM
jay 2001 jay 2009 :)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 15, 2009, 08:41:48 PM
2009 Jay would crush the 99 flex, 99 Cormier,and the 99 Levrone.

reality shows otherwise.

sorry:

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 15, 2009, 08:43:19 PM
man jay needs to trim down those horrendous obliques... :-\
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 15, 2009, 08:45:09 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 15, 2009, 08:47:32 PM
question: was jay's upper body so god damn smooth and devoid of detail back in 2001?

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 15, 2009, 08:57:28 PM
Jay's is just so far below the standard set back then..even in this apparently career best shape:



Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kiwiol on October 15, 2009, 09:03:23 PM
Jay's is just so far below the standard set back then..even in this apparently career best shape:

Why did he beat Ronnie in 2001, then? (never mind 2006)

Ronnie was at his biggest in 2004 and Jay still had the bigger rear lat spread. Which means that if you compare his 2009 version (which is bigger and drier) to Ronnie's much smaller-than-2004 version of 99, you'd find Jay outmuscles Ronnie.

Ronnie would win, but it would be touch and go, like 2001 ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kyomu on October 16, 2009, 01:11:03 AM
2009 Jay would crush the 99 flex, 99 Cormier,and the 99 Levrone.
X2
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kyomu on October 16, 2009, 01:13:44 AM
Why did he beat Ronnie in 2001, then? (never mind 2006)

Ronnie was at his biggest in 2004 and Jay still had the bigger rear lat spread. Which means that if you compare his 2009 version (which is bigger and drier) to Ronnie's much smaller-than-2004 version of 99, you'd find Jay outmuscles Ronnie.

Ronnie would win, but it would be touch and go, like 2001 ;D
QFT
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Pecs on October 16, 2009, 01:17:46 AM
left side
(http://i35.tinypic.com/1jlxk7.jpg)

right side
(http://i33.tinypic.com/vcrtqq.jpg)

left side
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2jd5kpk.jpg)

right side
(http://i36.tinypic.com/20033ep.jpg)

these pics are damn funny!
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Loomis on October 16, 2009, 01:42:26 AM
the fridge shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with the great Yates
That kind of talk ended this year in Vegas.
Jay took his opportunity to step up and shut alot of mouths.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 16, 2009, 03:49:21 AM
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Why did he beat Ronnie in 2001, then? (never mind 2006)


because 2001 ronnie was 294094387509434x worse and far below that of ronnie 99.

duh.

why is this so difficult for people to understand? ::)

this isn't hard people. don't make it out to be.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 16, 2009, 07:36:43 AM
reality shows otherwise.

sorry:




2009 Jay outweighed the 1999 flex, cormier, and levrone by 20-30lbs each. That's reality. Jay was ripped and much bigger. Jay now has no weak points.

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kiwiol on October 16, 2009, 08:27:55 AM
because 2001 ronnie was 294094387509434x worse and far below that of ronnie 99.

Wrong. He was in great shape sans the gut, just not in the best condition. He still had freaky vascularity and separation, not to mention he improved a whole lot for the finals. I'd say there was maybe a 5% difference between his 99 and 01 Olympia physiques. He was much bigger and more impressive in 2001 muscularity-wise, although not condition-wise

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=16449&id=41522&Itemid=266)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=16449&id=41512&Itemid=266)

And shape will only take you so far. Which is why Dorian won over guys like Nasser and Flex and Kevin.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr. Magoo on October 16, 2009, 08:29:35 AM
ronnie is owning cutler in that last picture
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Army of One on October 16, 2009, 08:30:07 AM
Wrong. He was in great shape sans the gut, just not in the best condition. He still had freaky vascularity and separation, not to mention he improved a whole lot for the finals. I'd say there was maybe a 5% difference between his 99 and 01 Olympia physiques. He was much bigger and more impressive in 2001 muscularity-wise, although not condition-wise

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=16449&id=41522&Itemid=266)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=16449&id=41512&Itemid=266)

And shape will only take you so far. Which is why Dorian won over guys like Nasser and Flex and Kevin.

Cant help but notice your enthusiasm and passion for men in thongs, keep it up stud.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kiwiol on October 16, 2009, 08:45:28 AM
Cant help but notice your enthusiasm and passion for men in thongs, keep it up stud.

Are you saying that from some "angles", bodybuilding has an aspect of gayness to it, db?
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Army of One on October 16, 2009, 08:51:19 AM
Are you saying that from some "angles", bodybuilding has an aspect of gayness to it, db?

The thought never crossed my mind  ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: kiwiol on October 16, 2009, 09:04:20 AM
The thought never crossed my mind  ;D

Hahaha seriously though, haven't you competed? I thought that pic you posted ages ago doing a rear-double bi was really you - I knew you were joking when you posted the pics of the twinks by car and saying it was you and your mates, lol.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 16, 2009, 10:04:34 AM
  You people are all fucking crazy. I don't know what you're seeing. Jay looks like utter shit as usual. He actually looked much better in 2006 from my perspective. To have the audacity and temerity of even comparing him to Dorian Yates is of a stupidity that defies comprehension. I am completely fleibergeisted that this thread was even created. I just don't get it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 16, 2009, 02:19:23 PM
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Jay was ripped and much bigger. Jay now has no weak points.

 ::)

so, arms, delts and pecs with NO DETAIL are 'ripped with no weakpoints'? ::)

man, we all know you have been melting down lately, but fuck, your turning into an idiot.. :-\
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: affeman on October 16, 2009, 02:21:18 PM
::)

so, arms, delts and pecs with NO DETAIL are 'ripped with no weakpoints'? ::)

man, we all know you have been melting down lately, but fuck, your turning into an idiot.. :-\

You do realize that the 2nd pic is sharpened and in black and white, right?LOL
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 16, 2009, 02:24:32 PM
you do realize that jay sucks compared to a peak ronnie, right?

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: affeman on October 16, 2009, 02:26:17 PM
you do realize that jay sucks compared to a peak ronnie, right?



You can't tell, you have to see them side by side.

With the lightning of the British GP probably even Jay had vascularity lol.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 16, 2009, 03:34:27 PM
::)

so, arms, delts and pecs with NO DETAIL are 'ripped with no weakpoints'? ::)

man, we all know you have been melting down lately, but fuck, your turning into an idiot.. :-\

me requesting that you stop being creepy and obsessing over decade old pics of Ronnie is not a meltdown.
It's what many people here have asked on multiple occasions. You fail to get the point.

Jay has no real weak points...he had perfect scores at the Olympia. 95% of the people at getbig feel he deserved the perfect scores and the Olympia win.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 16, 2009, 04:23:24 PM
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Jay has no real weak points...

he has lots of weakpoints when compared to someone with a decent physique:
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 16, 2009, 04:29:37 PM
he has lots of weakpoints when compared to someone with a decent physique:

Reality check, Shawn had weak points too.  Frankly, Jay would wipe the floor with him.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 16, 2009, 04:40:04 PM
yeah sure: ::)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 16, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
yeah sure: ::)

Where was Shawn in 2001?  Run along now.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: affeman on October 16, 2009, 04:44:15 PM
yeah sure: ::)

Gosh, stand them side by side Hulkster.

That's like the people posting pics of Lee Priest showing that he had the best arms ever. Stand him next to Coleman and he still looks like a midget.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 16, 2009, 04:47:14 PM
no question Jay is bigger.

but not better. thats the point.

the quality difference between them is waaay too great.

shawn routinely beat guys bigger than him, so this would be a normal occurance.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Danimal77 on October 16, 2009, 05:17:08 PM
Reality check, Shawn had weak points too.  Frankly, Jay would wipe the floor with him.

Shawn's weak point was DORIAN YATES.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 16, 2009, 06:09:56 PM
no question Jay is bigger.

but not better. thats the point.

the quality difference between them is waaay too great.

shawn routinely beat guys bigger than him, so this would be a normal occurance.

Shawn didn't beat him in 2001 though, did he?  It may have been a normal occurrence in some instances, but it would not be with Jay.  Are you suggesting that Shawn would have won this years O?  If so, you're even more out of touch with reality than originally thought.  And that's really saying something.  
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 16, 2009, 07:10:59 PM
yeah sure: ::)

I don't know what you think you are looking at in those rear double bicep pics, but Jay is beating Shawn in your pics (as is Heath and Kai). Shawn took 4th at the 1995 Olympia....and wouldve been at best 6th at the 2009 event.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: wannabebig5 on October 16, 2009, 07:12:42 PM
damn you guys on here have some serious patience.  i hardly ever post, i cruise on here and even i want to melt down at hulkster.  hey hulkster you are a fing idiot.  dude jays my favorite bodybuilder and even i know ronnie was better than him (not in 2001 though), but damn post some equal fucking pics man damn.  everyone looked badass with the 99 gp lighting.  post some normal ronnie pics that arent so damned sharpened all you can see his arms and shoulders, his waist is gone the pics are so dark.  fuck stop being retarded.  everyone will be able to see ronnie is better and you dont even have to be an idiot about it!  alright meltdown complete, glad i could get that off my chest.  wait one more thing... hulkster you are..... a fucking idiot haha!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royal Lion on October 16, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
damn you guys on here have some serious patience.  i hardly ever post, i cruise on here and even i want to melt down at hulkster.  hey hulkster you are a fing idiot.  dude jays my favorite bodybuilder and even i know ronnie was better than him (not in 2001 though), but damn post some equal fucking pics man damn.  everyone looked badass with the 99 gp lighting.  post some normal ronnie pics that arent so damned sharpened all you can see his arms and shoulders, his waist is gone the pics are so dark.  fuck stop being retarded.  everyone will be able to see ronnie is better and you dont even have to be an idiot about it!  alright meltdown complete, glad i could get that off my chest.  wait one more thing... hulkster you are..... a fucking idiot haha!!!!!!!!


Hit the nail on the head with that one!  Hulkster is pathetic, so pathetic that the only way he can prove his bullshit claims is by posting sharpened pics of Ronnie against the worst pics he can find of Dorian or Jay (he'll say we're just making excuses).  It gets old, and quite frankly he has lost whatever credibility he ever had as far as I am concerned.  He is far more obsessed and delusional than the Nasser fans--at least they can give credit where credit is due.

I think Ronnie is probably the freakiest bodybuilder ever; however, I think Dorian would give him a run for his money, and so would Jay in his 2009 form.  Great shot of Jay in the front relaxed there...the only weakness I see is his leg imbalance.  Nonetheless, his win was awesome and he deserved straight firsts.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 16, 2009, 07:50:49 PM
I don't know what you think you are looking at in those rear double bicep pics, but Jay is beating Shawn in your pics (as is Heath and Kai). Shawn took 4th at the 1995 Olympia....and wouldve been at best 6th at the 2009 event.

your slipping with your meltdowns Royalty. your judgement is going out the window:
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royal Lion on October 16, 2009, 07:56:21 PM
Ray would get dwarfed by Cutler, just like he is did in 2001, and just like he did by Dorian.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royal Lion on October 16, 2009, 08:15:17 PM
he has lots of weakpoints when compared to someone with a decent physique:
::)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: alnassak on October 16, 2009, 11:37:40 PM
  Only good post in the entire thread. I haven't posted in this thrad because it so retarded that it defines description. Jay at his best would definitely give Dorian a run for his money...against Dorian at his worst. So yes, Jay 09 vs Dorian 94' would be a good show. As for Jay 09 vs Dorian 95', it would be like watching a giant trollish caveman raping an albino girl with Down's Syndrome. The very comparison is so retarded that it is beyond me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 ???
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: johnny1 on October 17, 2009, 01:34:57 AM
Obviously Dorian would not outmass Jay, however his trademark conditioning would on a 1995 stage more than likely would see him (Dorian) come out on top, on a 2009 stage well...who knows...if the judges are (in 2009) looking for the "biggest guy" in good condition over a slightly smaller guy with Superior conditioning/tie-ins/detail etc...well Jay in 2009 could get the vote, a 1993 version of Dorian IMO is a different story, however a 1995 version on a 2009 stage is a little more uncertain
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 17, 2009, 04:47:39 AM
your slipping with your meltdowns Royalty. your judgement is going out the window:


Hulkster Shawn Ray was narrower than Phil Heath is now....and that flaw on Heath stands out now. Shawn wouldn't be able to beat 5th place Phil Heath. Phil is just too big...too round. So if Phil was 5th, Shawn wouldve been no netter than 6th.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: MB on October 17, 2009, 07:17:56 AM
1995 Dorian completely destroys any version of Jay, including 2009.  A better question is whether 2009 Jay beats 2001 Jay?  I say 2001 was better because his waist is a lot wider now than 8 years ago.   
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Don_Dada on October 17, 2009, 10:27:01 AM
SHUT UP HULKSTER

(http://hanyrambod.com/components/com_fpslideshow/images/jaybeforeprejudging1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 17, 2009, 12:36:41 PM
LOL

Jay is hitting a christmas tree pose with no christmas tree LOL

sorry Jay: you suck.

Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: affeman on October 17, 2009, 12:40:08 PM
LOL

Jay is hitting a christmas tree pose with no christmas tree LOL

sorry Jay: you suck.



Sry Ronnie, you suck ;)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 17, 2009, 02:01:48 PM
LOL

Jay is hitting a christmas tree pose with no christmas tree LOL

sorry Jay: you suck.



jay destroyed ronnies dream of winning 9 Olympias.....so jay must be half way decent  ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 17, 2009, 03:01:57 PM
1995 Dorian completely destroys any version of Jay, including 2009.

  Xd.

  End retarded thread now.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 17, 2009, 03:29:05 PM
jay destroyed ronnies dream of winning 9 Olympias.....so jay must be half way decent  ;D

no, Jay didn't destroy ronnie's dream.

the aging process did.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: affeman on October 17, 2009, 03:30:30 PM
no, Jay didn't destroy ronnie's dream.

the aging process did.

Hulkster, can you post a pic of Ronnie topping that?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301918.0;attach=343908;image)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: RocketSwitch625 on October 17, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301918.0;attach=343907;image)

Only one person can really do this pose and that is:



Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 17, 2009, 05:29:41 PM
no, Jay didn't destroy ronnie's dream.

the aging process did.

nope, jay came in 10lbs heavier than the year before a took the title. Jay earned his win.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 17, 2009, 05:40:12 PM
no, Jay didn't destroy ronnie's dream.

the aging process did.

Any more excuses?  ::)
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Hulkster on October 17, 2009, 08:32:35 PM
Any more excuses?  ::)

your an idiot.

ronnie was in his 40's when he lost to Jay.

there is a reason why a younger peak ronnie would crush any form of jay or dorian.

its because father time had not yet caught up to him.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 17, 2009, 08:43:09 PM
your You're an idiot. Ironic.

ronnie was in his 40's when he lost to Jay.

there is a reason why a younger peak ronnie  would crush any form of jay or dorian.

its because father time had not yet caught up to him.

Had Father time snuck up on him at the GNC too?  Go ahead, play the politics card.  Any more excuses?

One can try blame a myriad of factors on Ronnie's 2006 loss, but he was not in shape at pre-judging, bottom line.  He was way too heavy and Jay was better. Ronnie lost, period.  Live with it. And as far as Ronnie crushing Dorian, he had many kicks at the can to try do this, and never came remotely close.  Give it up, already.  And as I seem to recall, a younger Ronnie during his Olympia reign, lost the pre-judging to Jay in 2001.  Not exactly "crushing", in the true sense.

And for all of the times you refer to people as "nuthuggers", you're a "c*cksucker", when it comes to your hero, Ronnie.  You have no objectivity.  Ronnie had a great run and at his best was very impressive, but he was not invulnerable as he would like everyone to believe.  You persist in tainting threads with your man crush for Ronnie and it's getting beyond pathetic.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Royalty on October 18, 2009, 04:39:40 AM
your an idiot.

ronnie was in his 40's when he lost to Jay.

there is a reason why a younger peak ronnie would crush any form of jay or dorian.

its because father time had not yet caught up to him.


If "father time" had indeed caught up with Ronnie, all the top young guys competing at that show that day wouldve beaten Ronnie. Ronnie was good enough to beat everyone....except for 274lb Jay Cutler.

Give Credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: 2009 Jay Cutler VS 1995 Dorian Yates !!
Post by: Immortal_Technique on October 18, 2009, 04:44:48 AM
(http://21centuryfitness.ca/PhotoAlbums/album_1249261412/samir-bannout-bodybuilder-christmas-tree.jpg)