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Title: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: karu on October 15, 2009, 06:07:16 PM
http://www.flexonline.com/images/fl/209796/6336.pdf

His employers seem to be hell bent on showing the world that the future of bodybuilding didn't screw up his contest prep.

I don't recall an EMT report for the many, many other cases of day of show food poisoning.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: IronMagazine.com on October 15, 2009, 07:01:12 PM
does anyone care?
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: tendonitis on October 15, 2009, 07:06:06 PM
why does the entire industry baby this one guy so much?   
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 15, 2009, 07:07:17 PM
why does the entire industry baby this one guy so much?   

How do you figure he gets "babied"?
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Ursus on October 15, 2009, 07:08:18 PM
He fucked up. Should stop moaning about it.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: saucetradomous on October 15, 2009, 07:41:35 PM
bad mix of one of these

(http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/2258_featured.jpg)
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: AC Slater on October 15, 2009, 07:45:04 PM
How do you figure he gets "babied"?

know your role and shut your mouth chick.  no one in bodybuilding history has been more hyped than phil.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 15, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
know your role and shut your mouth chick.  no one in bodybuilding history has been more hyped than phil.

Know what you're reading and comprehend fool...no one is talking about hype.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: RadOncDoc on October 15, 2009, 09:46:00 PM
http://www.flexonline.com/images/fl/209796/6336.pdf

His employers seem to be hell bent on showing the world that the future of bodybuilding didn't screw up his contest prep.

I don't recall an EMT report for the many, many other cases of day of show food poisoning.

Is it just me or does that link not work? Would love to see the EMT report on this...
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Matt C on October 15, 2009, 10:06:26 PM
Is it just me or does that link not work? Would love to see the EMT report on this...

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Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Parker on October 15, 2009, 10:41:32 PM
know your role and shut your mouth chick.  no one in bodybuilding history has been more hyped than phil.

Uhh, remember Alex Federov, he was suppose to be the Ronnie Killer, Jay couldn't do it, Gunter couldn't do it, so they made Federov the Russian Beast Who Could Beat The Police, and he ended up getting probation.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Method101 on October 16, 2009, 04:50:11 AM
Im sure the sickness had nothing to do with the 2grams of hormones, GH and Insulin he was probably taking.
 ::)


why do fully grown men bitch about a diet, normal people diet all the time and i don't become emotional wrecks, the only difference we don't oil up and get on a stage at the end of the diet.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 16, 2009, 05:18:08 AM
Im sure the sickness had nothing to do with the 2grams of hormones, GH and Insulin he was probably taking.
 ::)


why do fully grown men bitch about a diet, normal people diet all the time and i don't become emotional wrecks, the only difference we don't oil up and get on a stage at the end of the diet.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

1. assuming he's taking what you claim, it would cause him to be sick? And only on the last day of the diet, not the 12 weeks prior?
2. Who is bitching about the diet? Here is a clue: this aint his first
3.Who said anything about being an "emotional wreck"? He was throwing up his guts, not crying in the corner

The "only difference"? Unless you make your living with your physique (which you dont) what difference is it whether you dropped to 22% BF last month or not? Phil was getting "oiled up and stepping on stage....for $200K, not including any bonus he may have coming from Met-Rx.  I know this is chump change for a man of your stature, but it's a pretty good payday for everyone else.

Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Red Hook on October 16, 2009, 05:38:57 AM
Chick, is it not the case the Phil and most of the competitors have been on a strict diet for 8+ weeks leading up to the O?

these guys now how many grams of protein and carbs each meal contains.   What caused the food poisoning?

His fourth orange roughy meal of the day was't cooked long enough? 
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 16, 2009, 05:43:54 AM
does anyone care?

X2.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: lax on October 16, 2009, 05:47:00 AM
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

1. assuming he's taking what you claim, it would cause him to be sick? And only on the last day of the diet, not the 12 weeks prior?
2. Who is bitching about the diet? Here is a clue: this aint his first
3.Who said anything about being an "emotional wreck"? He was throwing up his guts, not crying in the corner

The "only difference"? Unless you make your living with your physique (which you dont) what difference is it whether you dropped to 22% BF last month or not? Phil was getting "oiled up and stepping on stage....for $200K, not including any bonus he may have coming from Met-Rx.  I know this is chump change for a man of your stature, but it's a pretty good payday for everyone else.



Chick
you must admit
he'd be making far more money, and easier on his health, as a pro basketballer
even in Spain
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 16, 2009, 05:50:04 AM
Chick, is it not the case the Phil and most of the competitors have been on a strict diet for 8+ weeks leading up to the O?

these guys now how many grams of protein and carbs each meal contains.   What caused the food poisoning?

His fourth orange roughy meal of the day was't cooked long enough? 

What causes food poisoning for anyone?  Bad food

After a 12 week diet the body is sensitive to change (which many of the guys do in the depletion/carb up phase) and the immune system is depressed from beating yourself up in the gym (and throughout the year)... making it very easy to catch a cold/ flu/ etc with all the traveling, meeting and greeting people...

Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 16, 2009, 05:51:08 AM
Chick
you must admit
he'd be making far more money, and easier on his health, as a pro basketballer
even in Spain

I'm sure he could be doing both as Donald Trumps business partner as well...
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: lax on October 16, 2009, 05:57:04 AM
I'm sure he could be doing both as Donald Trumps business partner as well...

I was just saying. No need for sarcasm all the time, frankly.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 16, 2009, 05:59:08 AM
Who's being sarcastic?
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: lax on October 16, 2009, 06:01:06 AM
Who's being sarcastic?

Donald Trumps bus partner?

I guess I see your point. Either way, a fine champion.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: lax on October 16, 2009, 06:16:33 AM
Chick you are a very reactive and overly defensive person. Take a chill pill.

well
he does take quite a bit of shit here
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: claymore on October 16, 2009, 06:16:54 AM
Im sure the sickness had nothing to do with the 2grams of hormones, GH and Insulin he was probably taking.
 ::)


why do fully grown men bitch about a diet, normal people diet all the time and i don't become emotional wrecks, the only difference we don't oil up and get on a stage at the end of the diet.

Since bob isn't gonna tell you or admit what thses guys do to get ready for a show of this caliber for whatever reason ??? Let me help it's not the mass amounts of test or any other anabolics for that matter, it's not the GH. You ready here it is....... DIURETICS, there's other exotics that every "guru" has there guy use, but most of the time when you deplete yourself like they do the final days, then you take away water and introduce diuretics and insulin, you've got a nice little case of food poisoning. Symptons such as loss of appetite, nausea and vomiting, stomach cramps, diarrhea and dizziness...or you can call it a stomach virus, food poisoning or the flu take your pic.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: lax on October 16, 2009, 06:21:34 AM
Who doesn't?

yes
but he is a person of status in the industry
and he does not hide his identity
a bit different, I would say
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 16, 2009, 06:21:56 AM
The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: lax on October 16, 2009, 06:26:15 AM
The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh

I have heard this happening a few times before.

Fish is a relatively poor pre-day of contest choice due to the 'bad' factor

stick with something safer
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Method101 on October 16, 2009, 06:32:41 AM
I have heard this happening a few times before.

Fish is a relatively poor pre-day of contest choice due to the 'bad' factor

stick with something safer
I eat tuna/salmon for the last year every day, not once did i get food poisoning.  ::)
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: zwide on October 16, 2009, 06:33:58 AM
Most of the people are bent on the conspirancy theories - overdose this and that and definately no food poison -  ::) ::)

I dont understand why would one be bent on the negative .... :-\
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Chick on October 16, 2009, 06:34:56 AM
I eat tuna/salmon for the last year every day, not once did i get food poisoning.  ::)

Well, we cant all be as tough as you Irongut
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: PJim on October 16, 2009, 06:37:09 AM
Eating the same food day in day out can cause allergies, it's the bodies way of trying to get you to find some balance other than "protein and carb food combination A" or "protein and carb food combination B".
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 16, 2009, 06:44:37 AM
I eat tuna/salmon for the last year every day, not once did i get food poisoning.  ::)
And you were at 4% bodyfat with your immune system at its lowest that whole time I suppose?
Try dieting for a show,even amateur like me,you will see what happens when your bodyfat drops very low and your immune system weakens
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: No Patience on October 16, 2009, 07:52:47 AM
The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh

this guy eats pounds and pounds of fish every week, but he got the only bad piece on the day before the show ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: YoungBlood on October 16, 2009, 08:01:59 AM
I eat tuna/salmon for the last year every day, not once did i get food poisoning.  ::)

Phil more than likely was not eating either of those, and if he was, it was surely not out of a can like you're doing.
He was probably having room service cook him up some orange roughy or an actual piece of good fish and that is where the food poisoning occurred.
Sometimes it's as simple as a preparation mistake. I've gotten food poisoning 3 different times, and the first was the worst. I had been going there 2yrs, nothing before it and nothing after it either. But something went wrong and I spent 13hrs puking, and dry heaving. Not fun.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: karu on October 17, 2009, 06:33:55 AM
since when did flex post the EMT in a vain effort to try and prove that their "future of bodybuilding" was actually sick?


How do you figure he gets "babied"?
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: karu on October 17, 2009, 06:38:21 AM
the only difference between Phil blowing his contest prep, and another competitor is that FLEX had invested a lot of hype in Phil's name.
Hence the mad rush to save face.

"food poisoning"  = can't fess up.



You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

1. assuming he's taking what you claim, it would cause him to be sick? And only on the last day of the diet, not the 12 weeks prior?
2. Who is bitching about the diet? Here is a clue: this aint his first
3.Who said anything about being an "emotional wreck"? He was throwing up his guts, not crying in the corner

The "only difference"? Unless you make your living with your physique (which you dont) what difference is it whether you dropped to 22% BF last month or not? Phil was getting "oiled up and stepping on stage....for $200K, not including any bonus he may have coming from Met-Rx.  I know this is chump change for a man of your stature, but it's a pretty good payday for everyone else.


Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Method101 on October 17, 2009, 06:41:41 AM
I guess maybe Canned Fish is pretty safe, way less risk of food poisoning compared to buying whole fish/fillets.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: karu on October 17, 2009, 06:42:15 AM
food poisoning sounds better than drug/diuretic abuse, therefore you AMI lackeys ran with it.

remember, drugs are not part of Phil's contest prep. They were not mentioned in the "all inclusive" articles about his olympia prep.

The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on October 17, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh


 I don't believe  it was a bad piece of fish or bad food. I could be wrong.
 If you are an athlete and you need to diet hard, you should know how to check your food.
 Yes, i could  agree with you after 12,10 weeks dieting. your immune system will be pretty f*cked.
 But. its easy to blame the food, instead blaming all the 12, 10 weeks of drugs.
 
  8)
 
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: johnnynoname on October 17, 2009, 09:57:13 AM
here's further proof that phil heath has food poisoning


(http://www.sparkplugging.com/sparkplug-ceo/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/frank_trigg_resident_evil_extinction_planet_hollywood.jpg)

as per this pic, he has wasted away to nothing
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: karu on October 17, 2009, 11:21:06 AM
chick says that drugs contribute only an insignificant amount to the end product.

Its all nutrition and training FST-7 with Rimjob!


 I don't believe  it was a bad piece of fish or bad food. I could be wrong.
 If you are an athlete and you need to diet hard, you should know how to check your food.
 Yes, i could  agree with you after 12,10 weeks dieting. your immune system will be pretty f*cked.
 But. its easy to blame the food, instead blaming all the 12, 10 weeks of drugs.
 

  8)
 
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: jtsunami on October 17, 2009, 11:47:28 AM
The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh

hey Bob don't you know about that first hand, I remember a picture of you in the hospital shaking some nurses hand or something before a show you had to drop out?  I hope you were Ok.

jt
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 17, 2009, 12:29:17 PM
for christs sake bob u dont know when to not respond
youre only making it worse for phil or any of the atheletes u try and defend on here
youre like matt damons character in the informant-enough already ::)
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 17, 2009, 12:48:24 PM
The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh

This is such bullshit and you know it. I know plenty of competitors who were puking and shitting their brains out the days before shows and still ended up competing - in some cases in their career best form (but close to death).

Didn't Flex Lewis also have this "food poisoning" before the Olympia?

What a coincidence.  ::)
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: temper35 on October 17, 2009, 12:51:16 PM
Doesn't it say dehydration in the .pdf?

Diuretics...
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 17, 2009, 01:04:37 PM
Hey Bob, take a look at this post by Flex Lewis' girlfriend about the Atlantic City Pro Show.

Quote from: ShinaM
Flex was very tight tonight!! He was sick all night last night.. up until 3 in the morn throwing up... he still is suffering from a digestion problem, same as last year before the Tampa...Thats why

But he has fought for it hard and IMO he is Number one... over all best package... yea his tan will be better tomorrow... new tan did not take to his skin....

NO WORRIES.. i am very poud of my husband.... NUMBER ONE baby!!

Food poisoning night before show seems like a regular thing for a lot of guys.  ::)
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: jtsunami on October 17, 2009, 01:19:17 PM

Food poisoning night before show seems like a regular excuse for a lot of guys.  ::)

fixed
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Matt C on October 17, 2009, 04:49:18 PM
The only way diueretics will cause that, is if you cross the line into dehydration where your kidneys shut down, etc....if that were the case, there aint no way on earth Phil is in any condition to compete on Friday, much less come back the next day (sat) and be healthy enough to compete AND lok better in the process.

I know...all these theories sound better than the truth, right?

Cant possibly be that he just got a hold of a bad piece of fish?...nahhhh

I'm sure it is about 1% possible.
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: jtsunami on October 17, 2009, 05:06:37 PM
suprised bob hasn't raged on anyone in this thread yet  :o
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on October 17, 2009, 08:26:13 PM
suprised bob hasn't raged on anyone in this thread yet  :o


 Stuck on the toilet with diarrhea, bad fish probably.

  8)
Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: jtsunami on October 17, 2009, 08:48:35 PM

 Stuck on the toilet with diarrhea, bad fish probably.

  8)

LOL bob probably can't afford fish, i am guessing he eats a steady diet of boxed macroonni and cheese and maybe some white rice, mixed with beans.

Title: Re: "Proof" that Phil Heath had food poisoning!!!
Post by: Ursus on October 18, 2009, 04:08:10 AM
I could easily make a similar document in MS Word and fill it it would look exactly the same.

It says dehyrdration. Diuretics?