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I used to do it all the time. I always did squats solo and never even thought twice about it, but I've started squatting a decent amount more since then. I'm totally apprehensive about squatting alone, and I don't know whether it's a reasonable or irrational fear. For a good year or so I've had a consistent gym partner, and having a spot for squats was never an issue. Now that I'm once again left alone without a spot, I feel a reluctance to get into the squat rack alone; something I've never felt before. Maybe it's the increase in weight since I used to squat by myself, maybe I'm used to the security of having a spotter, maybe it's the couple of minor injuries I've incurred that make me more cautious, or maybe I'm being a bitch!
Do you guys squat heavy alone? Should I just go for it or make an effort to get a spotter on days I plan on doing squats?
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Try a power rack.
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I'll squat heavy alone, always have. More often than not, I'm alone without a partner in the gym.
I saw an article once that I've followed the advice of ever since, talked about using your fear and turn it into motivation.
I usually take the pins out of the safety slots, because I use that "fear and stupidity" to get that extra rep. Knowing the pins are not there, and the noise would cause great embarrassment if I failed, it provides an extra spark that will allow me to get out of the bottom position with a heavy weight on my back. In my old gym, I would even go as far as taking the Barbell out of the Power Rack and use it in the middle of the floor with the stands similar to Ronnie Coleman. After getting used to this method, I was really happy with the results.
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I'll squat heavy alone, always have. More often than not, I'm alone without a partner in the gym.
I saw an article once that I've followed the advice of ever since, talked about using your fear and turn it into motivation.
I usually take the pins out of the safety slots, because I use that "fear and stupidity" to get that extra rep. Knowing the pins are not there, and the noise would cause great embarrassment if I failed, it provides an extra spark that will allow me to get out of the bottom position with a heavy weight on my back. In my old gym, I would even go as far as taking the Barbell out of the Power Rack and use it in the middle of the floor with the stands similar to Ronnie Coleman. After getting used to this method, I was really happy with the results.
Seems good up to around 800lbs.
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I used to do it all the time. I always did squats solo and never even thought twice about it, but I've started squatting a decent amount more since then. I'm totally apprehensive about squatting alone, and I don't know whether it's a reasonable or irrational fear. For a good year or so I've had a consistent gym partner, and having a spot for squats was never an issue. Now that I'm once again left alone without a spot, I feel a reluctance to get into the squat rack alone; something I've never felt before. Maybe it's the increase in weight since I used to squat by myself, maybe I'm used to the security of having a spotter, maybe it's the couple of minor injuries I've incurred that make me more cautious, or maybe I'm being a bitch!
Do you guys squat heavy alone? Should I just go for it or make an effort to get a spotter on days I plan on doing squats?
Use a squat rack.... and put safety bars (is that what its called??)
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No need for a spotter when squatting, never ever failed a last rep in squats.
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Did someone say spotter?
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squats pffff.... real men do leg extensions and body weight lunges 8)
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No need for a spotter when squatting, never ever failed a last rep in squats.
If you don't go to failure you don't understand the difference between you not needing a spotter and nodeal not needing a spotter. I've spotted nodeal. There is indeed no deal to take on the challenge of a leg workout lightly. 3 warm up sets followed by 6 sets of motherless intensity. No deal.
I havn't worked out in 2 and a half months and my legs are beyond brutal. The hours of mowing my new job demands grew me calves a bit as well.
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What rep range are you squatting in? Even when I was doing triples/doubles I was working out solo.. might wanna get over that fear, or alternatively lighten up the load a bit, don't have to train super heavy to get big.
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1) Use a Power rack.
2) Have your gym buy a Safety squat bar. They're easy to ditch if you get in trouble.
3) Learn to front squat big. Great for quad development, and you can dump it easy as pie.
4) Trap bar deadlifts off of a platform. This is a decent sub for squats.
5) Play with foot and trunk position for back squating. Certain positions are easier to dump than others.
If you have time, try to watch a few videos of Olympic lifters losing back squats, etc.... They are probably the best teachers of how to safely ditch a lift.
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Free weight squat is the dumbest exercise a bber can do … everyone goes and says free weight … for what ??? only cause Arnold and the guys from yesteryear did it!!! Then experts come up and say u need to do free weights squat and bench presses to strengthen ur joins … ur joints will get repaired and strengthened by the growth factors due to training anyway … but look at it this way … if u can lift free weight 80% of what u can lift on a machine … as the other 20% is going into balancing the weight … y lift just that and loose strength in balancing the weight which will add no added muscle gain !!!
Hypertrophy is achieved by lifting heavy … as heavy was never determined by a number … it is the amount that u can lift/feel resisting the targeted muscle group … so in a machine u can actually focus all the weight on ur targeted muscle group by using ur full strength to resist the weight and not loose any in balancing the weight...
Free weight was never an indication of “HARDCORE” but when u get illiterate, top notch or professional bbers tell u that u can’t build muscle without free weights and u cant build a good foundation with out free weight + that is what is written in most magazines … everyone heads to the free weight path to build a solid foundation and be “HARDCORE”
Have u ever realized that bench press with barbell actually twists ur wrist from its idle position … have u ever thought why the bench press machines r built with a 45degree twisted handles … cause that is the idel wrist position … as in the wrist is not twisted + the forearm muscle is not tense
Ur better off with hack squats
Good luck with training
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Free weight squat is the dumbest exercise a bber can do … everyone goes and says free weight … for what ??? only cause Arnold and the guys from yesteryear did it!!! Then experts come up and say u need to do free weights squat and bench presses to strengthen ur joins … ur joints will get repaired and strengthened by the growth factors due to training anyway … but look at it this way … if u can lift free weight 80% of what u can lift on a machine … as the other 20% is going into balancing the weight … y lift just that and loose strength in balancing the weight which will add no added muscle gain !!!
Hypertrophy is achieved by lifting heavy … as heavy was never determined by a number … it is the amount that u can lift/feel resisting the targeted muscle group … so in a machine u can actually focus all the weight on ur targeted muscle group by using ur full strength to resist the weight and not loose any in balancing the weight...
Free weight was never an indication of “HARDCORE” but when u get illiterate, top notch or professional bbers tell u that u can’t build muscle without free weights and u cant build a good foundation with out free weight + that is what is written in most magazines … everyone heads to the free weight path to build a solid foundation and be “HARDCORE”
Have u ever realized that bench press with barbell actually twists ur wrist from its idle position … have u ever thought why the bench press machines r built with a 45degree twisted handles … cause that is the idel wrist position … as in the wrist is not twisted + the forearm muscle is not tense
Ur better off with hack squats
Good luck with training
Tom Platz
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Everyone starts without a spotter. Worst thing that happens is you dump it on the safeties dude. Giddy up!
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Ur better off with hack squats
So you can take your hamstrings out of the movement, and eventually fuck your knees up even worse than what you say with BB Squats.
Right....
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Tom Platz
Tom Platz had the genetics for those crazy legs, whichever way Tom trained, he would've had crazy legs.
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Get stands, high bar placement. Bomb it twice and from then onwards youll never feel safer.
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Tom Platz had the genetics for those crazy legs, whichever way Tom trained, he would've had crazy legs.
::)
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always squat alone - once you "dropped" the weight you loose the fear - I really dont care that much if I offend somebodies ears when I let the weight roll of my back, my back is more important - happend twice this year to me and so far nobody said a thing.
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So you can take your hamstrings out of the movement, and eventually fuck your knees up even worse than what you say with BB Squats.
Right....
no ... it depends how u perform the exercise ... most people still dont know how to bench press or squat ... the foot positioning was never the key to a right exercise ... u have to press the right way by positioning ur foot a bit forward and pressing with ur toes (not doing getting ur calf involved but rather pressing with ur quad muscle and isolating all the other secondary muscles that incorporate in a regular bb squat)
u can fuck up ur knees with either way if ur not doing the squat at a correct manner, meaning squat is not just lifting and squaring (cause u r not doing it for a power lifting purpose) u wan to target the quad muscle and create a hyperemia environment to fatigue it.
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Try a power rack.
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Yep
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using a spotter for squats,,,, if your upto or over 4 plates a side,,, what the fuck could a spotter do to help you?, unless your got a silverback gorrilla standing behind you your fucked, much better squating alone, and if it goes wrong dump it behind you, or drop on the safety pins..
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I do them in power rack, alone with nobody else in my house lol
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Might consider getting these if you push yourself to the limit.
http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/prodinfo.asp?number=1227
Oly-lifters seem to dump back squats without too much drama. 'Course they've got bumper plates, platforms, and don't generally do more than a few reps...
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Only problem with this thread......ain't nobody actually squatting anymore. This a world of upper bodybuilders that occassionally hit the leg extension machine or do high-speed, pogo stick raises on the calf machine. We should stop referring to it as the "squat rack" and start calling it by its proper name: the "shrug rack".
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So what you are saying is that when i squat balls deep, i should have a guy standing right behind me just in case i get into some trouble, right?
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no spotter ;D
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no spotter ;D
245 without a spotter!? :o
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no spotter ;D
And no safety bars. You're crazy man. :o
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well you guys have indeed been helpful, as usual. my mind is made up...i will get in that squat rack and squat my heart out with or without a spotter! no more pussy shit leg presses on solo days!
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Yep
Failed to attract attention.
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Failed to attract attention.
haha Irony ;D
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it's gay to have a spotter in squats ;D
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it's gay to have a spotter in squats ;D
well the trick is to say 'no homo' after u're done with the set
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well the trick is to say 'no homo' after u're done with the set
;D ;D ;D
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Yep
Thank you.
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it's gay to have a spotter in squats ;D
That being said, if nasser ask you for a spot, you would give him one?
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That being said, if nasser ask you for a spot, you would give him one?
sure and both of us will say "NO HOMO" at the same time after the set as per haider's suggestion above :-X
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sure and both of us will say "NO HOMO" at the same time after the set as per haider's suggestion above :-X
lol :D
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well you guys have indeed been helpful, as usual. my mind is made up...i will get in that squat rack and squat my heart out with or without a spotter! no more pussy shit leg presses on solo days!
One other thing you might try is supports, Hise shrugs(place weighted bar across back and shrug), and walk outs. They helps to build confidence for dealing with heavy weights alone.
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1) Use a Power rack.
2) Have your gym buy a Safety squat bar. They're easy to ditch if you get in trouble.
3) Learn to front squat big. Great for quad development, and you can dump it easy as pie.
4) Trap bar deadlifts off of a platform. This is a decent sub for squats.
5) Play with foot and trunk position for back squating. Certain positions are easier to dump than others.
If you have time, try to watch a few videos of Olympic lifters losing back squats, etc.... They are probably the best teachers of how to safely ditch a lift.
great advice, i only do front squats lately.
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If your purpose is building quads, better having a spotter.
A spotter enable you to do it to the failure.
Plus he stabilizes your posture which prevent the injury.
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If your purpose is building quads, better having a spotter.
A spotter enable you to do it to the failure.
Plus he stabilizes your posture which prevent the injury.
yeah, and you can have some guy rub his cock against your sweaty back in public without being openly gay! ;D ;D
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yeah, and you can have some guy rub his cock against your sweaty back in public without being openly gay! ;D ;D
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Yep
Holy Maria Jesus Christ!
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yeah, and you can have some guy rub his cock against your sweaty back in public without being openly gay! ;D ;D
Oh what a imagination! :o
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When i've got a heavy load across my shoulders, it makes me feel warm inside to have a big strong man behind me ready to grab me. (no homo)
But in all seriousness i've always done the majority of my squatting without a spotter, up to 185kg. That was in a squat rack with no safety bars. The fear that if you fail you're fucked keeps
The gym got a new one with nice solid safety bars, but sadly i've become a pussy and it's a long time since i got anywhere near squatting 4 plates.
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Oh what a imagination! :o
So you're saying it is safe in get a spotter in Asian countries because their packages are so small, no rubbing can happen?
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So you're saying it is safe in get a spotter in Asian countries because their packages are so small, no rubbing can happen?
I only squat with girls, the i'm always the strongest and the only thing that rubs are the tits. ;D
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I only squat with girls, the i'm always the strongest and the only thing that rubs are the tits. ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Lol as if that old mudshark would be able to help him if he really started to struggle.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Dutch girls are the best, and that one is only 17 years old! ;D ;D