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George W Bush’s Czars from January 2001 to January 2009:
Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control Czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget Czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)
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EVER hear these NeoCon scuumbags mention the word "Czar" during George "The Grim Reaper" Bush's administration?
I think not.
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Why did he switch terrorism czars so much?
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Why did he switch terrorism czars so much?
Are you saying George W Bush utilized Czars? ;)
Dammit!!! Faux News and Rush lied to me again!!!!!
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Are you saying George W Bush utilized Czars? ;)
Dammit!!! Faux News and Rush lied to me again!!!!!
How many were professed Marxists, Maoists, communists, etc?
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How many were professed Marxists, Maoists, communists, etc?
LOL EXACTLY mons youre an idiot if you dont see the difference in the two
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tony, 333, if you guys were ok with czars and only had a problem with marxists, why didn't you just say so from the start? So you don't have a problem with czars, just marxists, ok, got it ::)
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tony, 333, if you guys were ok with czars and only had a problem with marxists, why didn't you just say so from the start? So you don't have a problem with czars, just marxists, ok, got it ::)
No, I think they are wrong and I dont agree with any of them.
What I was saying is that the attention to this came about as a result of the radicals that Obama has placed into these positions.
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No, I think they are wrong and I dont agree with any of them.
What I was saying is that the attention to this came about as a result of the radicals that Obama has placed into these positions.
So you were also bitching about it when Bush was doing it? It wasn't on your list of things you said you turned on Bush for? Also he was doing it in this first term, you didn't have a problem? I know for sure most republicans and neocons didn't. I remember bitching about it under Bush, where were you guys? I just remember crickets from the right.
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I think it's only natural that a president appoints clerks to handle day to day operations.
I can't believe this is even an issue?
I was no fan of GWB, but it would be crazy to think that he he should not have any director of eg AIDS policies.
He should sit and think it up all on his own? Super idea. ::)
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tony, 333, if you guys were ok with czars and only had a problem with marxists, why didn't you just say so from the start? So you don't have a problem with czars, just marxists, ok, got it ::)
I dont think ive condemned obama for having czars, its the ppl that he is appointing these positions that are shit and you know this hugo
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I dont think ive condemned obama for having czars, its the ppl that he is appointing these positions that are shit and you know this hugo
you primarily supported bush, correct? Wouldn't you say? ;)
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How many were professed Marxists, Maoists, communists, etc?
Nice spin 333333's ;)
List of George Bush’s Czars from January 2001 to January 2009:
Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)
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you primarily supported bush, correct? Wouldn't you say? ;)
LOL :D
what do you mean by primarily? I supported some of the things bush did, didnt support some of the things he did as well
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LOL :D
what do you mean by primarily? I supported some of the things bush did, didnt support some of the things he did as well
that's what every normal voter can say. give your approval rating of Bush on a scale of 1 to 100.
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that's what every normal voter can say. give your approval rating of Bush on a scale of 1 to 100.
hind sight wise id say 40's during id say 50's
give your approval rating of obama on a scale or 1 to 100...
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To be clear, I'm not so sure it was bad that Bush had czars.
They are managers able to get thigns done without beaucratic tape/limitations.
We live in a complex country. it's reasonable to think there are 30 areas, from agriculture to defense, that require a dedicated person to coordinate all efforts so that 310 million people can have smooth, safe lives.
You might say it would be irresponsible NOT to have a person to supervise and manage these major and important services. bush and obama would agree, as evidenced by their own czars.
Did clinton have czars? Mccaffrey comes to mind? How about Bush1? Are we complaining because obama has a group of managers/czars when other presidents have been doing it for decades?
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To be clear, I'm not so sure it was bad that Bush had czars.
They are managers able to get thigns done without beaucratic tape/limitations.
We live in a complex country. it's reasonable to think there are 30 areas, from agriculture to defense, that require a dedicated person to coordinate all efforts so that 310 million people can have smooth, safe lives.
You might say it would be irresponsible NOT to have a person to supervise and manage these major and important services. bush and obama would agree, as evidenced by their own czars.
Did clinton have czars? Mccaffrey comes to mind? How about Bush1? Are we complaining because obama has a group of managers/czars when other presidents have been doing it for decades?
NeoCons are fuuucking hypocrites. Recently all drug addict Rush Limbaugh talks about are "Czars", as if we now live in Communist Russia. ::) Under George "the grim reaper" Bush, Limbaugh NEVER uttered the word "Czar." Now it's his favorite word. ::)
NeoCon's are desperate and just grasping at straws.
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NeoCons are fuuucking hypocrites. Recently all drug addict Rush Limbaugh talks about are "Czars", as if we now live in Communist Russia. ::) Under George "the grim reaper" Bush, Limbaugh NEVER uttered the word "Czar." Now it's his favorite word. ::)
NeoCon's are desperate and just grasping at straws.
crickets.
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NeoCon's are desperate and just grasping at straws.
Why would conservatives need to grasp at straws? Because there's nothing else going on?
You grasp at straws when there's nothing left, and right now, there's everything. The trouble is, you don't discuss any issues at hand. You're starting threads about other posters, terminology, and STILL talking about George Bush.
As stated above, all Presidents need to appoint people to focus on different agendas. It's the people he appointed that we have seen brought into question here (don't know about Limbaugh - I don't listen to him), not the positions themselves.
You're a broken record with absolutely no substance. If there was a Mons Venus option on Google translator, it would spit out all your posts as "FAUX NEWS!!! BUSH SUCKED!!! 333 and HH..." with incorrect use of apostrophes.
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George W Bush’s Czars from January 2001 to January 2009:
Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control Czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget Czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)
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EVER hear these NeoCon scuumbags mention the word "Czar" during George "The Grim Reaper" Bush's administration?
I think not.
My favorite is Bush's Domestic Policy Czar Karl Rove complaining on Fox that Obama's Czars can influence policy without having been elected.
He does have a point when you consider how much influence he himself had on public policy and what an absolute disaster it was for the country
I assume that was his point
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My favorite is Bush's Domestic Policy Czar Karl Rove complaining on Fox that Obama's Czars can influence policy without having been elected.
He does have a point when you consider how much influence he himself had on public policy and what an absolute disaster it was for the country
I assume that was his point
Which ones are on record as being nazi's, communist, and/or maoists.
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To be clear, I'm not so sure it was bad that Bush had czars.
They are managers able to get thigns done without beaucratic tape/limitations.
We live in a complex country. it's reasonable to think there are 30 areas, from agriculture to defense, that require a dedicated person to coordinate all efforts so that 310 million people can have smooth, safe lives.
You might say it would be irresponsible NOT to have a person to supervise and manage these major and important services. bush and obama would agree, as evidenced by their own czars.
Did clinton have czars? Mccaffrey comes to mind? How about Bush1? Are we complaining because obama has a group of managers/czars when other presidents have been doing it for decades?
I think the reason that people are wondering about czars in this administration is because there have been so many appointed in 8 months and the fact that some seem pretty wacky like for sure the guy that doesn't even believe a newborn baby is a human being.
I don't remember hearing much about czars in the last few admins but that could be because I just wasn't paying that much attention then.
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I think the reason that people are wondering about czars in this administration is because there have been so many appointed in 8 months and the fact that some seem pretty wacky like for sure the guy that doesn't even believe a newborn baby is a human being.
I don't remember hearing much about czars in the last few admins but that could be because I just wasn't paying that much attention then.
Wacky - do you mean like Bush's Abstinence Czar or his Faith Based Czar?
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Which ones are on record as being nazi's, communist, and/or maoists.
beats me
didn't seem to matter if any of them were now did it?
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Wacky - do you m
no i think stella is referring to the obama czars that are racist, mao loving, tax cheats, etc....
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Wacky - do you m
no i think stella is referring to the obama czars that are racist, mao loving, tax cheats, etc....
really - I thought she was referring to one she claims does not believe a newborn baby is a human being
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beats me
didn't seem to matter if any of them were now did it?
Of course it mattered. It goes to the very heart of the issue. Do you really think that Bush alone steered the country in a direction you didn't like? Reality is that Bush and the people he put in key positions steered the country. Bankers got to collect welfare, not just because of Bush, but because of Bush appointees.
You and 240 seem to be of like mind that two wrongs equal a right. I would challenge you to try thinking for yourself and not along party lines and individually ask, "Is this person good for our country".
Obviously, of the thousands of appointees, the majority are going to be good, solid, experienced candidates. But, for those few questionable ones that are brought to light (such as those who admire Mao), consider if they're truly good for the country without being a party hack.
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Of course it mattered. It goes to the very heart of the issue. Do you really think that Bush alone steered the country in a direction you didn't like? Reality is that Bush and the people he put in key positions steered the country. Bankers got to collect welfare, not just because of Bush, but because of Bush appointees.
You and 240 seem to be of like mind that two wrongs equal a right. I would challenge you to try thinking for yourself and not along party lines and individually ask, "Is this person good for our country".
Obviously, of the thousands of appointees, the majority are going to be good, solid, experienced candidates. But, for those few questionable ones that are brought to light (such as those who admire Mao), consider if they're truly good for the country without being a party hack.
I think Rove, Cheney and a few others are the onces that influenced policy
I think Bush was mostly disengaged until the last few years when he realized his legacy was going to be shit
I don't think the Aid's Czar or the Abstince Czar or the Clean Up Czar had much influence at all
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I think Rove, Cheney and a few others are the onces that influenced policy
I think Bush was mostly disengaged until the last few years when he realized his legacy was going to be shit
I don't think the Aid's Czar or the Abstince Czar or the Clean Up Czar had much influence at all
Why do we need Czars in these areas when we already have a miriad of govt agencies whose mission and function is to adress these things in the first place?
This is just more patronage. pork, and unaccountable spending that we cant afford.
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Why do we need Czars in these areas when we already have a miriad of govt agencies whose mission and function is to adress these things in the first place?
This is just more patronage. pork, and unaccountable spending that we cant afford.
why tell me
go call your Congressman or go protest in DC
maybe hold an anti-czar teaparty or circle jerk or something
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why tell me
go call your Congressman or go protest in DC
maybe hold an anti-czar teaparty or circle jerk or something
Tommorow i will be calling gilibrands office about her cap & trade op-ed that I almost vomited over.
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Tommorow i will be calling gilibrands office about her cap & trade op-ed that I almost vomited over.
good for you
don't forget to tell her Obama the paper Obama wrote in college
actually, if you really want to be effective you should call her at least 20 times a day - every day
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good for you
don't forget to tell her Obama the paper Obama wrote in college
actually, if you really want to be effective you should call her at least 20 times a day - every day
I will send her the youtube clips of him saying the exact same things AFTER he went to Harvard and Columbia.
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I will send her the youtube clips of him saying the exact same things AFTER he went to Harvard and Columbia.
dude that last clip was all spliced together and still it was obvious this his motivation was better education for children, especially lower income children
what's your problem with that?
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dude that last clip was all spliced together and still it was obvious this his motivation was better education for children, especially lower income children
what's your problem with that?
I have a huge problem with anyone trying to attritube others' motives as being racist, especially not wanting to pay taxes.
Did this marxist asshole ever stop to think that people in general are sick of paying obscene taxes because they want to keep more of the fruit of their pwn labor?
No, it has to be because WHITEY is racist.
BTW - without these evil white people he wants to attibute motives to, the schools would be in ewven worse shape since they pay most of the taxes. An idiot like obama does not acknowledge that.
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I have a huge problem with anyone trying to attritube others' motives as being racist, especially not wanting to pay taxes.
Did this marxist asshole ever stop to think that people in general are sick of paying obscene taxes because they want to keep more of the fruit of their pwn labor?
No, it has to be because WHITEY is racist.
BTW - without these evil white people he wants to attibute motives to, the schools would be in ewven worse shape since they pay most of the taxes. An idiot like obama does not acknowledge that.
you know what would be helpful?
If you would find the full clip so we can know who is asking the question, what the context is and what he said in the entire conversation
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you know what would be helpful?
If you would find the full clip so we can know who is asking the question, what the context is and what he said in the entire conversation
I have to go look on youtube. I will later and see what I dig up.
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NeoCons are fuuucking hypocrites. Recently all drug addict Rush Limbaugh talks about are "Czars", as if we now live in Communist Russia. ::) Under George "the grim reaper" Bush, Limbaugh NEVER uttered the word "Czar." Now it's his favorite word. ::)
NeoCon's are desperate and just grasping at straws.
Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict?Hmmm,he went to rehab and has had zero problem since.He had a problem with pain killers from an injured back.Pretty incredible on a bodybuilding forum we have little piss ants mocking the use of pain killers.
Now,Rush can make no laws and has zero influence over your life.Compare that to panzy ass Patrick Kenndedy who has been in rehab 4 times and they actually flew him out of rehab to vote on the climate bill.Yet,NOT ONCE do I see you or any other girl lib mock him.Not much hypocricy there.
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Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict?Hmmm,he went to rehab and has had zero problem since.He had a problem with pain killers from an injured back.Pretty incredible on a bodybuilding forum we have little piss ants mocking the use of pain killers.
Now,Rush can make no laws and has zero influence over your life.Compare that to panzy ass Patrick Kenndedy who has been in rehab 4 times and they actually flew him out of rehab to vote on the climate bill.Yet,NOT ONCE do I see you or any other #### lib mock him.Not much hypocricy there.
How about our president abusing coke?
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How about our president abusing coke?
stop brinign up Bush. he's not president anymore. :(
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stop brinign up Bush. he's not president anymore. :(
Your right,now we have a crack head in there.
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stop brinign up Bush. he's not president anymore. :(
I really couldnt tell from how much you, Hugo, Lurker, Straw, Mons, Blacken etc keep talking about Bush. I would swear he is still there.