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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Palpatine Q on October 29, 2009, 10:07:07 AM
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Lately I have been getting accused more frequently of being gassed....to the point where Jtsunami cried to gh15 about me, owning himself for all eternity.
So I'm curious as to who else all the doubters think take steroids and lie about it, I certainly can't be the only one.
Just the best looking.
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you have got a big ego lately groink
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Don't even hint that you are natural, dirtbag.
:D
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I gotta see more pics of you
but in the last pic where you flex your arm no way that's natural
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One recent stupid lie that springs to mind is Tim Wescott saying he was natural in one of the pics he posted (natural at the time that is, said he wasn't lifetime natural). Why? ???
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you have got a big ego lately groink
I don't think so....maybe.
I have been catching a lot of shit and I'm just responding
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Based on the quality of the pics you've posted - it's hard to tell.
There was one "normal" pic posted a while back where you were on a couch in I think a blue shirt - what were the circumstances of that picture?
Didn't the girl take normal pics yet? :)
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Here is a partial list of foods to watch out for:
Fried foods (Fried chicken, French fries, fried onion rings, tater tots, etc)
Cookies
Crackers
Biscuits
Frostings
Pies
Pastries
Frostings
Doughnuts
Corn chips
Taco shells
Shortening
Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils
Refined vegetable oils
Baked goods (Croutons, crackers, cookies, cakes, breads)
Margarine
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Based on the quality of the pics you've posted - it's hard to tell.
There was one "normal" pic posted a while back where you were on a couch in I think a blue shirt - what were the circumstances of that picture?
Didn't the girl take normal pics yet? :)
Don't hold your breath...the moment has passed. see my response in "Nasser nights"
This isn't about me...I'm saying i surely can't be the only so called "liar' here, who else?
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Groink pics needed stat for MOS self pleasure (total homo).
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You're either a 120lb twink or juiced to the gills on here, you know that. Recently, some guys seem to believe they can tell if someone is on while he's fully clothed. They should be working for the Olympics.
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Groink's demeanor on GetBig changed dramatically after Squadfather left.
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Groink pics needed stat for MOS self pleasure (total homo).
Here's a nominee right now!!!!!!!
Tell us a little about yourself :D :D
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Groink is a legendary board member and an all around hunky SOB.
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One recent stupid lie that springs to mind is Tim Wescott saying he was natural in one of the pics he posted (natural at the time that is, said he wasn't lifetime natural). Why? ???
The pic you're talking about he weighed all of 152lbs! I think, it was damn light, and Tim will no doubt tell you how tiny he was/is. He doesn't care what the weight lifted is or ego, it's all about the look to him. Even if that means being 150#.
I remember him telling me that he used to take stuff way back in the 70's, because all the guys did it in the gym. But nothing hardcore, to my recollection. But Tim is usually a straight up guy. If he took shit to look a certain way, I don't doubt that he would tell anyone. But he also wouldn't broadcast it across the airwaves. He doesn't come from that school of bragging about it like Kuclo bragging about his latest score on the boards (that is until he was being scouted as the next pro).
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Groink pics needed stat for MOS self pleasure (total homo).
That's what I'm talking bout!............(yeah homo)
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The pic you're talking about he weighed all of 152lbs! I think, it was damn light, and Tim will no doubt tell you how tiny he was/is. He doesn't care what the weight lifted is or ego, it's all about the look to him. Even if that means being 150#.
I remember him telling me that he used to take stuff way back in the 70's, because all the guys did it in the gym. But nothing hardcore, to my recollection. But Tim is usually a straight up guy. If he took shit to look a certain way, I don't doubt that he would tell anyone. But he also wouldn't broadcast it across the airwaves. He doesn't come from that school of bragging about it like Kuclo bragging about his latest score on the boards (that is until he was being scouted as the next pro).
He was on in the picture, period.
You know how I know? Like this:
it's all about the look
And only using back in the 70s? LOL
Back in 1995 when I was living in Florida,I was in the break room eating my standard lunch of tuna,and a couple of rice cakes when my fat peice of shit foreman,who I hated because he was a lazy overweight slob,who did not pull his weight at work, had to try to tease me with a box of donuts..............as if he needed them !!
It was the only time I had been running some halotestin and I was a complete maniac on the stuff.............told him if he ever said a word to me again about food I would rip his head off!!
He was so embarassed he had tears in his eyes...........of course I threw in a couple of you fat peice of shit,just to get my point across.
I never did halo again as I had no control over myself verbally whatsoever!
I think a lot of these folks who make stupid comments just secretly wish they had the dedication to eat like us,so in turn they belittle us just to make themselves feel better.
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Here's a nominee right now!!!!!!!
Tell us a little about yourself :D :D
Never used actually....just able to put on muscle and fat quickly....completely endomorphic in that respect. I have a lot of natural strength. Many men in my family are strong. In my prime I've literally worked out until bones and cartilage broke or gave out....not the smartest play, but live and learn. Although all those years of hard pressing, rowing, squating and curling built me up naturally. I have wanted to use MANY times, but never did...talked myself out of it. I have nothing against those that use...it's a choice. I don't encourage or discourage it. If you want to compete you'll need to use.....I don't want to compete in bb or pl.....I'm fine being the big guy on the cereal aisle at the local grocery store.
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Don't hold your breath...the moment has passed. see my response in "Nasser nights"
This isn't about me...I'm saying i surely can't be the only so called "liar' here, who else?
Honest question - what were the circumstances behind that one "normal" picture that was posted a few years ago? Based on that picture I find it very believable that you are natural ;) Not trying to hate on you here, but this is getbig.
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Never used actually....just able to put on muscle and fat quickly....completely endomorphic in that respect. I have a lot of natural strength. Many men in my family are strong. In my prime I've literally worked out until bones and cartilage broke or gave out....not the smartest play, but live and learn. Although all those years of hard pressing, rowing, squating and curling built me up naturally. I have wanted to use MANY times, but never did...talked myself out of it. I have nothing against those that use...it's a choice. I don't encourage or discourage it. If you want to compete you'll need to use.....I don't want to compete in bb or pl.....I'm fine being the big guy on the cereal aisle at the local grocery store.
so you worked out until you broke a bone...now this story I gotta hear...do tell
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so you worked out until you broke a bone...now this story I gotta hear...do tell
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Never used actually....just able to put on muscle and fat quickly....completely endomorphic in that respect. I have a lot of natural strength. Many men in my family are strong. In my prime I've literally worked out until bones and cartilage broke or gave out....not the smartest play, but live and learn. Although all those years of hard pressing, rowing, squating and curling built me up naturally. I have wanted to use MANY times, but never did...talked myself out of it. I have nothing against those that use...it's a choice. I don't encourage or discourage it. If you want to compete you'll need to use.....I don't want to compete in bb or pl.....I'm fine being the big guy on the cereal aisle at the local grocery store.
That's the thing. there ARE big, strong dudes in this world. People act like we are the fucking white whale or something.
i know dudes just like you, thick as a fucking brick and strong as an ox...no steroids needed.
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so you worked out until you broke a bone...now this story I gotta hear...do tell
it's not as dramatic as all that LOL.....I have stress fractured my wrists over time from constant heavy lifting. Have also dislocated knees and shoulders in the same way.......that was ego training....I learned.
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we didn't see the pictures ???
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Have also dislocated knees and shoulders in the same way.......that was ego training....I learned.
did you do olympic lifting?
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Never used actually....just able to put on muscle and fat quickly....completely endomorphic in that respect. I have a lot of natural strength. Many men in my family are strong. In my prime I've literally worked out until bones and cartilage broke or gave out....not the smartest play, but live and learn. Although all those years of hard pressing, rowing, squating and curling built me up naturally. I have wanted to use MANY times, but never did...talked myself out of it. I have nothing against those that use...it's a choice. I don't encourage or discourage it. If you want to compete you'll need to use.....I don't want to compete in bb or pl.....I'm fine being the big guy on the cereal aisle at the local grocery store.
Put down the Cookie Crunch, big man.
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That's the thing. there ARE big, strong dudes in this world. People act like we are the fucking white whale or something.
i know dudes just like you, thick as a fucking brick and strong as an ox...no steroids needed.
Exactly....I've known some big boys that have never used and others that have....some are predisposed to size and strength and others need some help. I'm sure if I used I'd get bigger and stronger, but what's the point now LOL? I determined a long time ago that since I could already outlift and in some cases outsize a number of users in the areas I trained at I went without the extra edge. All this you can't bench 400 or squat 500 without drug assistance just isn't true....it'll take you longer.
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He was on in the picture, period.
You know how I know? Like this:
And only using back in the 70s? LOL
I also said "to my recollection." As well, I didn't say I knew the exact period of time he used. So for all I know he could have been on till 2004 or whenever.
My point, is that if Tim said he was clean in that pic, I'll believe him. Because he is forthcoming about his past use. But again, just just doesn't broadcast it across the airwaves like many others do. But I don't think he's lying either...
...either way, I'm not staying awake at night if I were to be right or wrong. :)
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did you do olympic lifting?
For a VERY short time (under 2 weeks) someone tried to coach me....I didn't care for it.
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Put down the Cookie Crunch, big man.
I'm more of a Rice Chex, Rice Krispies, Frosted Flakes kinda guy.
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Honest question - what were the circumstances behind that one "normal" picture that was posted a few years ago? Based on that picture I find it very believable that you are natural ;) Not trying to hate on you here, but this is getbig.
This one?
I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things? :P
I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.
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I also said "to my recollection." As well, I didn't say I knew the exact period of time he used. So for all I know he could have been on till 2004 or whenever.
My point, is that if Tim said he was clean in that pic, I'll believe him. Because he is forthcoming about his past use. But again, just just doesn't broadcast it across the airwaves like many others do. But I don't think he's lying either...
...either way, I'm not staying awake at night if I were to be right or wrong. :)
Believe me, it's no big deal to me either. :D I just don't understand the need to bullshit. Like, what for? ??? :D
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This one?
I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things? :P
I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.
hunky, muscle bastard right there.
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This one?
I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things? :P
I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.
nice couch ::) sorry, it was the only thing i could think of...i'll try to do better next time.
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This one?
I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things? :P
I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.
Thanks for posting the first clear picture :)
So here you are 225-230 and "pretty lean"
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=303867.0;attach=345478;image)
And here you are 230 as you posted today:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103123.0;attach=345474;image)
Now do you see my point as to why fuzzy pictures are not as credible as real/clear pictures, or how they can give different impressions of size?
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Believe me, it's no big deal to me either. :D I just don't understand the need to bullshit. Like, what for? ??? :D
Tim has always been a straight up guy to me. So I don't think he is bullshitting. Just my opinion and if I'm wrong, oh fuckin' well.
I don't lie about anything I lift, or have done. Either now or then. And my weights are nowhere near what some claim. Does that mean they're lying? Maybe. But I've seen plenty of guys that lift X amount of weight and I don't believe they're natural by any means. One of them is a natural "guru" by some standards.
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Thanks for posting the first clear picture :)
So here you are 225-230 and "pretty lean"
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=303867.0;attach=345478;image)
And here you are 230 as you posted today:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103123.0;attach=345474;image)
Now do you see my point as to why fuzzy pictures are not as credible as real/clear pictures, or how they can give different impressions of size?
Actually.....I'm probably heavier than 230 in the bottom pic, it's two years later and i had put on more size.
Sorry but i don't keep a running log on how much i weighed the day a picture was taken, i was taking a guess.
Also....i'm covered to my elbows in the first pic, and it a completely different photograph. How can you assume anything?
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How can you say someone is juicing by looking at a pic of them in a tanktop?? (unless it's completely obvious)
I've been of accused of being "on" as well on various occasions...It doesn't bother me as much as it used to.
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Actually.....I'm probably heavier than 230 in the bottom pic, it's two years later and i had put on more size.
Sorry but i don't keep a running log on how much i weighed the day a picture was taken, i was taking a guess.
Also....i'm covered to my elbows in the first pic, and it a completely different photograph. How can you assume anything?
Pictures capture things differently. Me, I wear clothes that fit or that are sometimes oversized and comfortable so I just look blocky. If I put on something more form fitting things pop more. Sit down, stand up, twist a bit, turn to the side it all can look a little different.
Most Getbiggers are not juiced to gills bbs that look enormous and muscular in every article of clothing or picture position LOL.
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How can you say someone is juicing by looking at a pic of them in a tanktop?? (unless it's completely obvious)
I've been of accused of being "on" as well on various occasions...It doesn't bother me as much as it used to.
For most naturals accused of using it's a compliment....I've never seen anyone say, "You take that back!"
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Here is a chronology to the best of my memory
1 : 2004 bout 220 pretty lean
2 : 2006 bout 235
3 : 2008 mid 240's
4 : 3 weeks ago 255.... stopped beating myself up with drugs and alcohol november 2008 and had a nice growth spurt for the last year
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For most naturals accused of using it's a compliment....I've never seen anyone say, "You take that back!"
exactly!
i am teh upset if ppl don't think im juicing
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Here is a chronology to the best of my memory
1 : 2004 bout 220 pretty lean
2 : 2006 bout 235
3 : 2008 mid 240's
4 : 3 weeks ago 255.... stopped beating myself up with drugs and alcohol november 2008 and had a nice growth spurt for the last year
Those pics are pretty telling......awesome, sexy gains!!
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Those pics are pretty telling......awesome, sexy gains!!
You should SEE my junk...... ;) (way homo)
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exactly!
i am teh upset if ppl don't think im juicing
Everyone wants validation for their gym efforts....especially from the ladies.
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For most naturals accussed of using it's a compliment....I've never seen anyone say, "You take that back!"
Haha..nah, I used to get real defensive about it...I get it all the time, especially at work from random drunken dudes...I've learned it's just not worth getting all defensive about it and try explaining to them, how much I eat, how much I work out, how dedicated I am bla bla bla.....I'm over it..
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Those pics are pretty telling......awesome, sexy gains!!
You should SEE my junk...... ;) (way homo)
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Haha..nah, I used to get real defensive about it...I get it all the time, especially at work from random drunken dudes...I've learned it's just not worth getting all defensive about it and try explaining to them, how much I eat, how much I work out, how dedicated I am bla bla bla.....I'm over it..
I used to get razed a little bit about using and I'd finally just said, "yes, I use." Immediately they'd respond, "Why?" So I'd say, "I use because I'm scared if I don't I'd look like you."
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I used to get razed a little bit about using and I'd finally just said, "yes, I use." Immediately they'd respond, "Why?" So I'd say, "I use because I'm scared if I don't I'd look like you."
Lol..pretty funny response, but I would never admit to juicing unless I was, if I was I would openly admit it, and feel completely fine about it, I would never try to be the dude who is "on" yet trying to fool everyone, I hate fake people. I used to get shit from the bouncers all the time too, until I worked there for a while, and made steady progress year after year (little leaner in the summer, little bigger in the winter), while they are big for awhile then fat and smaller for awhile, then bigger again..while I just consistantly make small progress..they knew I was clean..either that or I've been "on" for 4 years straight..
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Lol..pretty funny response, but I would never admit to juicing unless I was, if I was I would openly admit it, and feel completely fine about it, I would never try to be the dude who is "on" yet trying to fool everyone, I hate fake people. I used to get shit from the bouncers all the time too, until I worked there for a while, and made steady progress year after year (little leaner in the summer, little bigger in the winter), while they are big for awhile then fat and smaller for awhile, then bigger again..while I just consistantly make small progress..they knew I was clean..either that or I've been "on" for 4 years straight..
I would think you were on something. you have a great build, owns mine...... if i didn't catch so much shit about it myself
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I would think you were on something. you have a great build, owns mine...... if i didn't catch so much shit about it myself
Haha..thanks for the props bro, I wouldn't say my build owns yours at all though..we have to totally different builds, you have a thicker more powerful look, I've always been real lean so my struggle is always with putting on mass and thickness, but it's coming slowly. It's one thing to get shit from the general non-lifter, but when on a bbing forum with experienced lifters/bb'er's you would think people would have a better eye for determining wether or not someone is juiced up. You also get alot of hater's who just aren't as gifted as other people and just cause they can't attain a certain build, it's an atomatic response for them to say "he's on this" and thats sad.
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I think Groink just uses good lighting and isn't anything special.
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I used to get razed a little bit about using and I'd finally just said, "yes, I use." Immediately they'd respond, "Why?" So I'd say, "I use because I'm scared if I don't I'd look like you."
Classic ;D
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Haha..thanks for the props bro, I wouldn't say my build owns yours at all though..we have to totally different builds, you have a thicker more powerful look, I've always been real lean so my struggle is always with putting on mass and thickness, but it's coming slowly. It's one thing to get shit from the general non-lifter, but when on a bbing forum with experienced lifters/bb'er's you would think people would have a better eye for determining wether or not someone is juiced up. You also get alot of hater's who just aren't as gifted as other people and just cause they can't attain a certain build, it's an atomatic response for them to say "he's on this" and thats sad.
Thanks also and another thing is....this is a long standing, very popular BBing website that people visit the world over.
I would say that OF COURSE you are going to run into a lot of dudes that are "up there" genetically. More so than going to your local gym.
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I think Groink just uses good lighting and isn't anything special.
Not really.
But I'm sure everybody else here finds lighting that makes them look their worst and then takes pics ::)
Fucking Idiot
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Thanks also and another thing is....this is a long standing, very popular BBing website that people visit the world over.
I would say that OF COURSE you are going to run into a lot of dudes that are "up there" genetically. More so than going to your local gym.
Exactly..
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One recent stupid lie that springs to mind is Tim Wescott saying he was natural in one of the pics he posted (natural at the time that is, said he wasn't lifetime natural). Why? ???
He's always been an honest guy on the boards, and told it like it is...why would you doubt him? I don't know what pic you're talking about but remember the guy has been doing it since 1922 :P
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He's always been an honest guy on the boards, and told it like it is...why would you doubt him? I don't know what pic you're talking about but remember the guy has been doing it since 1922 :P
Where is Johnny Falcon when you need him to break out a "Time Westcock" post ?
Funniest Getbig name ever.
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Actually.....I'm probably heavier than 230 in the bottom pic, it's two years later and i had put on more size.
Sorry but i don't keep a running log on how much i weighed the day a picture was taken, i was taking a guess.
Also....i'm covered to my elbows in the first pic, and it a completely different photograph. How can you assume anything?
Even in a short sleve shirt you can get an idea when someone is big from their width, arm size, etc. Like I said, my point is that fuzzy pics don't always give the same story as normal ones.
Pictures capture things differently. Me, I wear clothes that fit or that are sometimes oversized and comfortable so I just look blocky. If I put on something more form fitting things pop more. Sit down, stand up, twist a bit, turn to the side it all can look a little different.
Most Getbiggers are not juiced to gills bbs that look enormous and muscular in every article of clothing or picture position LOL.
I totally agree with you, the reason I'm posting in this thread is because Groink takes pictures like you described of Nasser wearing baggy oversized shirts and compares to his few fuzzy pics just showing arms and claims to be bigger or comparable, whereas the couch picture is nothing comparable at all to Nasser's pics in similar resolution.
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Even in a short sleve shirt you can get an idea when someone is big from their width, arm size, etc. Like I said, my point is that fuzzy pics don't always give the same story as normal ones.
I totally agree with you, the reason I'm posting in this thread is because Groink takes pictures like you described of Nasser wearing baggy oversized shirts and compares to his few fuzzy pics just showing arms and claims to be bigger or comparable, whereas the couch picture is nothing comparable at all to Nasser's pics in similar resolution.
I'm at least 30 lbs heavier now than I was then Bobs.
We can go back and forth on this shit for all eternity....I'm getting kind of bored with it, and it's about me, so that's saying something.
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I think it's hard 2 tell with shirts on as I believe it comes down 2 abs....I don't care how much u train or how clean you eat....your not gonna be a natural and have abs at 240lbs or 255lbs....
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I think it's hard 2 tell with shirts on as I believe it comes down 2 abs....I don't care how much u train or how clean you eat....your not gonna be a natural and have abs at 240lbs or 255lbs....
Groin is a liar and a clown.
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I think it's hard 2 tell with shirts on as I believe it comes down 2 abs....I don't care how much u train or how clean you eat....your not gonna be a natural and have abs at 240lbs or 255lbs....
I never said i had really defined abs. they are alright, nothing to say "wow' about.
I'm not fat, i have a flat stomach, no love handles. i'm OK with that, My girl IS breaking my balls to eat cleaner, so maybe that will chnge
BUT NEITHER DOES NASSER...which was what started this whole fucking thing.
No fucking way he's even 275 with defined abs, and I don't care what he's on.
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I'm at least 30 lbs heavier now than I was then Bobs.
We can go back and forth on this shit for all eternity....I'm getting kind of bored with it, and it's about me, so that's saying something.
Yeah, after posting the couch pic I don't think you can try to compare yourself to Nasser anymore, so we can both let it go :)
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Groin is a liar and a clown.
Another dirt farmer with a hard-on for me, shocking :P
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Groink is clearly in team backpack's head.
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Yeah, after posting the couch pic I don't think you can try to compare yourself to Nasser anymore, so we can both let it go :)
Again you suck me in ;D
What part of "I"M 30 LBS HEAVIER NOW" didn't you catch?
Which puts me at 255.
Which is what Nasser weighs too...I don't drink the Kool-Aid like you do Bobs.
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Another dirt farmer with a hard-on for me, shocking :P
The tank-top hiding your stomach+good lighting is what makes you look bigger than what you really are. Post a clear shot with the shirt off if you wanna claim your bigger than Nasser because theres plenty of him. However you look like you're actually in good condition which is why I don't think you're clean... if you are then you've got some top 1% genetics and good for you.
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I'm more of a Rice Chex, Rice Krispies, Frosted Flakes kinda guy.
My grandfather was a Frosted Flakes man. Cut off half his big toe when he was almost done mowing his lawn one day and actually finished the job and put the lawnmower back away before going to the doctor, so they won't make you smart but might make you tough.
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Again you suck me in ;D
What part of "I"M 30 LBS HEAVIER NOW" didn't you catch?
Which puts me at 255.
Which is what Nasser weighs too...I don't drink the Kool-Aid like you do Bobs.
Nasser is 300+
You claim that's a lie. So we can only rely on pictures. You've posted several fuzzy ones and one clear one. It would need far more than 30 lbs added to the clear picture to compare to Nasser :)
If it were true you would simply post a current clear picture.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=303867.0;attach=345478;image)
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/nasser-costco.jpg)
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My grandfather was a Frosted Flakes man. Cut off half his big toe when he was almost done mowing his lawn one day and actually finished the job and put the lawnmower back away before going to the doctor, so they won't make you smart but might make you tough.
Grandpapas are tough bastards.
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Nasser schmasser who gives a shit. The whole thing is fucking peculiar.
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I never said i had really defined abs. they are alright, nothing to say "wow' about.
I'm not fat, i have a flat stomach, no love handles. i'm OK with that, My girl IS breaking my balls to eat cleaner, so maybe that will chnge
BUT NEITHER DOES NASSER...which was what started this whole fucking thing.
No fucking way he's even 275 with defined abs, and I don't care what he's on.
OK just to make sure.are you claiming natural and that you have visable abs at 255lbs?..what is your height?what is your bodyfat?
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Grandpapas are tough bastards.
Yes. Those old coots are Jack Palance tough.
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Nasser is 300+
You claim that's a lie. So we can only rely on pictures. You've posted several fuzzy ones and one clear one. It would need far more than 30 lbs added to the clear picture to compare to Nasser :)
If it were true you would simply post a current clear picture.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=303867.0;attach=345478;image)
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/nasser-costco.jpg)
Here's me 6 years ago at 220
here's me now at 255
If you can't see that I am MUCH bigger now...you are fucking blind.
This is my last "nasser vs. groink" post. It's like talking to a tennis ball
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Here's me 6 years ago at 220
here's me now at 255
If you can't see that I am MUCH bigger now...you are fucking blind.
This is my last "nasser vs. groink" post. It's like talking to a tennis ball
First 230, now 220 lol, anyway Yes the second picture looks bigger but it's not a good comparison because it's not a clear picture. Regardless, much more size would be needed (to the first or 2nd pic) to compare to Nasser's clear picture. I'm glad if its the last Nasser vs. Groink post because it is a dumb topic and I'd like to put it to rest too. :)
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I remember the first time I saw this pic, I thought it looked like some 9yr old snapped it on a Sunday morning as Groink said..."Don't worry slugger, I wasn't hurting your mom last night, we were just wrestling...."
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=303867.0;attach=345478;image)
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I remember the first time I saw this pic, I thought it looked like some 9yr old snapped it on a Sunday morning as Groink said..."Don't worry slugger, I wasn't hurting your mom last night, we were just wrestling...."
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
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I also said "to my recollection." As well, I didn't say I knew the exact period of time he used. So for all I know he could have been on till 2004 or whenever.
My point, is that if Tim said he was clean in that pic, I'll believe him. Because he is forthcoming about his past use. But again, just just doesn't broadcast it across the airwaves like many others do. But I don't think he's lying either...
...either way, I'm not staying awake at night if I were to be right or wrong. :)
Thanks for the backup YB and Myt1.................... ....good looking out!! :)
I have freely admitted to using gear,being an alcoholic,a drug user......including intravenous drugs,and also have stated that I have /had depression and anxiety issues,all on the web.
People know who I am from the boards.....I`m not an anonymous troll.
If I was on some shit in ythe pic,why would I lie?
That year was my first Masters Nats contest and I had never been so dedicated in my life.
I think Van should get his mind on something or somebody else......he`s getting to be like Matt C. for crist`s sake` !!
Sorry Van,but I will never admit to being on unless I was,and even then,it`s not your business any fucking way.
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Thanks for the backup YB and Myt1.................... ....good looking out!! :)
I have freely admitted to using gear,being an alcoholic,a drug user......including intravenous drugs,and also have stated that I have /had depression and anxiety issues,all on the web.
People know who I am from the boards.....I`m not an anonymous troll.
If I was on some shit in ythe pic,why would I lie?
That year was my first Masters Nats contest and I had never been so dedicated in my life.
I think Van should get his mind on something or somebody else......he`s getting to be like Matt C. for crist`s sake` !!
Sorry Van,but I will never admit to being on unless I was,and even then,it`s not your business any fucking way.
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Sorry Van,but I will never admit to being on unless I was,and even then,it`s not your business any fucking way.
Whoa, take it easy! You're not back on the Halotestin are you? :D
Let's just forget this. :'( You're cool for the most part (when not on heavy androgens and cranky):D
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Sorry bro,didn`t mean to be so defensive.......must be the boatload of gear I`m running!! ;D
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I see growth hormone works, Groink.
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I am on for sure ;D
238 going on 260 8)
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I remember the first time I saw this pic, I thought it looked like some 9yr old snapped it on a Sunday morning as Groink said..."Don't worry slugger, I wasn't hurting your mom last night, we were just wrestling...."
That is so wrong it's right ;D
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I think it's hard 2 tell with shirts on as I believe it comes down 2 abs....I don't care how much u train or how clean you eat....your not gonna be a natural and have abs at 240lbs or 255lbs....
bottom line 255lbs with a flat stomach (visable abs) wether blurry abs or ripped would make someone the greatest natural in history...I mean seriously do we need 2 go back and look at past Olympia and Arnold classic winners height and weight.along with height and weights of the winners of armature tested events.
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bottom line 255lbs with a flat stomach (visable abs) wether blurry abs or ripped would make someone the greatest natural in history...I mean seriously do we need 2 go back and look at past Olympia and Arnold classic winners height and weight.along with height and weights of the winners of armature tested events.
exactly - groink has dug a deephole with his lies of being a natural.
the fact he thinks he's as big as nasser is also a big sign of gear use - super confidence bordering on arrogance.
although i'm not discounting the fact he may just be a nutcase :-\
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Two fat guys in little coats chiming in...
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I don't think Groink ever said he was better than Nasser did he?
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Okami
Steve Namat
Chick
That's all the regular posters who juice.
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I don't think Groink ever said he was better than Nasser did he?
yes he did !
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you have got a big ego lately groink
You look absolutely juiced to the gills mes ami. :o
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groink..I love you bro
BUT:
check out this pic of mine. I'm exactly your height and 217 here on almost a gram of anabolics weekly. Care to explain me how you weigh 255 at the same height while natural ? ( and don't start with genetics cause I actually have you beat in that dept ;) )
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groink..I love you bro
BUT:
check out this pic of mine. I'm exactly your height and 217 here on almost a gram of anabolics weekly. Care to explain me how you weigh 255 at the same height while natural ? ( and don't start with genetics cause I actually have you beat in that dept ;) )
If you say so.
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groink..I love you bro
BUT:
check out this pic of mine. I'm exactly your height and 217 here on almost a gram of anabolics weekly. Care to explain me how you weigh 255 at the same height while natural ? ( and don't start with genetics cause I actually have you beat in that dept ;) )
absolutly horrible comparison...
however the basic truth remains
bottom line 255lbs with a flat stomach (visable abs) wether blurry abs or ripped would make someone the greatest natural in history...I mean seriously do we need 2 go back and look at past Olympia and Arnold classic winners height and weight.along with height and weights of the winners of armature tested events.
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bottom line 255lbs with a flat stomach (visable abs) wether blurry abs or ripped would make someone the greatest natural in history...I mean seriously do we need 2 go back and look at past Olympia and Arnold classic winners height and weight.along with height and weights of the winners of armature tested events.
Are you teh guy that posted the vid repping 1/4 range push ups in your basement with a strange mask on?
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why is it horrible ?
same height, same bodyfat level
40 blbs extra of muscle
me on 1 gram him on zero
u dumb or what ?
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Are you teh guy that posted the vid repping 1/4 range push ups in your basement with a strange mask on?
haha dov. Yes, he is that chubby guy and now he is talking shit about groink. Oh brother....
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dawg ??
big ?
L ?
lol
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Are you teh guy that posted the vid repping 1/4 range push ups in your basement with a strange mask on?
It wasn't a mask but yea haha....whats that have 2 do with anything.
why is it horrible ?
same height, same bodyfat level
40 blbs extra of muscle
me on 1 gram him on zero
u dumb or what ?
because your best build on gear is still achievable as a natural....
haha dov. Yes, he is that chubby guy and now he is talking shit about groink. Oh brother....
how am I talkin shit?I'm stating that if you have visable abs at 255lbs at that height then you are the greatest natural in the world....seriously look at the height and weight of the best amature (tested) bodybuilders....
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I think it's hard 2 tell with shirts on as I believe it comes down 2 abs....I don't care how much u train or how clean you eat....your not gonna be a natural and have abs at 240lbs or 255lbs....
I am 242 and have abs.
I am lanky though
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groink..I love you bro
BUT:
check out this pic of mine. I'm exactly your height and 217 here on almost a gram of anabolics weekly. Care to explain me how you weigh 255 at the same height while natural ? ( and don't start with genetics cause I actually have you beat in that dept ;) )
Sev? you get timed out or somthing? ???
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who fu**ing care of hes natural or not damn he is one big dude for sure, i see guys on roids every day at my gym and they looks like shit.
is just jealousy from all of you guys
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who fu**ing care of hes natural or not damn he is one big dude for sure, i see guys on roids every day at my gym and they looks like shit.
is just jealousy from all of you guys
How do you know they are juiced? did they tell you?
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Sev? you get timed out or somthing? ???
changed names that's all
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I am 242 and have abs.
I am lanky though
exactly... i know someone who was probably 235-240 at 6'3'' with 'visible abs'
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Gh15, please chime in.
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Groink, what's your height? if your around 6 ft I'd say you'd be 190-5lbs competition ready.
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Okami
Steve Namat
Chick
That's all the regular posters who juice.
Yeah only 3 of us on here take gear,two being pro bodybuilders and the other being a national champion
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groink..I love you bro
BUT:
check out this pic of mine. I'm exactly your height and 217 here on almost a gram of anabolics weekly. Care to explain me how you weigh 255 at the same height while natural ? ( and don't start with genetics cause I actually have you beat in that dept ;) )
200 max
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I am 242 and have abs.
I am lanky though
You're also like 6'6"
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200 max
Are you saying sev looks 200 in the pic?
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Are you saying sev looks 200 in the pic?
I'm 97 kg's at 5'11" 1/2
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I'm 97 kg's at 5'11" 1/2
I believe, I just wasn't sure if Leafy was questioning that weight or not.
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I believe, I just wasn't sure if Leafy was questioning that weight or not.
Lafy is also the guy claiming he's nattie when we all know that he'd weigh 120 lbs in contest shape without drugs
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Solid thread indeed my friends, all the way solid thread.
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exactly... i know someone who was probably 235-240 at 6'3'' with 'visible abs'
At my current b/f percentage I could easily add another 30lbs I reckon naturally.
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At my current b/f percentage I could easily add another 30lbs I reckon naturally.
:D
like I can add 2 inches to my cock
naturally
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:D
like I can add 2 inches to my cock
naturally
Have you never had an erection?
I could add 20lbs to my legs alone I reckon - They are very poor.
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At my current b/f percentage I could easily add another 30lbs I reckon naturally.
30 Pounds of muscle? stop acting Irish , sure you could add another 30 pounds naturaly but only 2 would be muscle.
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Sorry 30lbs of weight while staying this lean.
Like I said I could add 20lbs to my legs alone
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Goudy is as natural as DA's hair
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Thats a back handed compliment :)
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Thats a back handed compliment :)
How goes the bread famine, bro? Like Black '45, yet? ;D
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In my house when I am hungry there is always a bread famine!
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Sorry 30lbs of weight while staying this lean.
Like I said I could add 20lbs to my legs alone
No, you couldn't. I don't think you realize what a drastic difference twenty pounds of muscle would make on your lower body.
You're an ok guy, but you are one of the biggest delusionites on this site.
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you are one of the biggest delusionites on this site.
you're being kind to him
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In my house when I am hungry there is always a bread famine!
LOL. Does that leave your family any vittles? ;D
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Is 270lbs with 15% bf @ almost 6'4 that impossible ???
I think not
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Is 270lbs with 15% bf @ almost 6'4 that impossible ???
I think not
As a natural? and a genuine 15 % ? not the gym guess.
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yea...we got guys on here that are almost the size of the pro's only natural ::)...these guys could be mr olympia after one cycle they just don't feel like it...
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you're being kind to him
Honestly, I kind of feel bad calling him on his delusionalism. It's clear from his face pic that he has a mild case of Down Syndrome. He's obviously a "high functioning" one, so props to him for that.
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"high functioning"
:D
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As a natural? and a genuine 15 % ? not the gym guess.
Totally natural. Well I have abs but I am not superlean.
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Totally natural. Well I have abs but I am not superlean.
URSUS IS A BIG BASTARD WITH A SMALL HEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL. Does that leave your family any vittles? ;D
Vittles?
No bread in my house atm so making do with a bowl or Raisin Wheats - A toffee crisp and a shake.
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Totally natural. Well I have abs but I am not superlean.
I would say no , guys that are tall and weigh alot usely look lanky and long , you must remember there is alot of space to full on a guy over 6'2 , but the pics Ive seen of you , you look built like a 5'6 brick shit house which makes your natural claim a bit iffy. :-\
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At 17 before I trained I looked like I had done a bit of lifting. Just a decent base. I have a pic of me at school where I look decent in a class photo.
I just have tiny joints and a decent structure. My strength or size is not out of this world or even suggest I have taken things
I am only 230lbs here. Its an illusion
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Sorry 30lbs of weight while staying this lean.
Like I said I could add 20lbs to my legs alone
::) not this shit again.
you are delusional if you think that, but then again :-\
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::) not this shit again.
you are delusional if you think that, but then again :-\
Hi Fatpanda. Delusional much!? :)
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Hi Fatpanda. Delusional much!? :)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Heres Panda and Sherbert on their way to Nasser nights
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It appears eye problems run in your family.
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Vittles?
No bread in my house atm so making do with a bowl or Raisin WheatsBran - A toffeecoffee crisp and a shake.
You guys are weird up there you are.
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::) not this shit again.
you are delusional if you think that, but then again :-\
Are you so stupid and ignornat to think I will never be 19stone?
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Lately I have been getting accused more frequently of being gassed....to the point where Jtsunami cried to gh15 about me, owning himself for all eternity.
So I'm curious as to who else all the doubters think take steroids and lie about it, I certainly can't be the only one.
Just the best looking.
lol I missed this post or thread. Cried? Lol keep exaggerating, just needing someone with a voice of know around here to put a pumpkin head in there place :)
jt
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lol I missed this post or thread. Cried? Lol keep exaggerating, just needing someone with a voice of know around here to put a pumpkin head in there place :)
jt
The irony never gets lost on me that the Nassholes call everyone a "pumpkinhead"
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Are you so stupid and ignornat to think I will never be 19stone?
we've spoken about this before goudy.
you may be 19 stone 1 day, but you will either be
A)FAT
B)ON STEROIDS
you will not be putting 20lbs in muscle on your legs hahahahahahaha
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we've spoken about this before goudy.
you may be 19 stone 1 day, but you will either be
A)FAT
B)ON STEROIDS
you will not be putting 20lbs in muscle on your legs hahahahahahaha
Ursus is over 19stone in my opinion.Im over 18and a half stone,not fat,and im 5'10,hes what 6'3 and huge so he must be
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Goudy can do it... large framed dudes for the win...
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Ursus is over 19stone in my opinion.Im over 18and a half stone,not fat,and im 5'10,hes what 6'3 and huge so he must be
i thought he wasn't 19 stone yet - i thought he was 20lbs off it from his posts - and that he was going to reach 19 stone by putting on 20lbs of muscle on his legs alone.
he won't get any bigger without gear imo unless he's willing to get fat.
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I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??
Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?
What's the point of lying ?
Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat
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I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??
Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?
What's the point of lying ?
Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat
X2
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I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??
Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?
What's the point of lying ?
Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat
x3
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I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??
Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?
What's the point of lying ?
Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat
Exactly
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Ursus is over 19stone in my opinion.Im over 18and a half stone,not fat,and im 5'10,hes what 6'3 and huge so he must be
Okami I am 17st 4lbs atm and a lil over 6'3. I reckon I could easily add 20-30lbs of lean mass to my frame while at my current b/f levels - cheers for the props though.
btqw I am not talking about contest lean. i mean my surrent leanness.
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i thought he wasn't 19 stone yet - i thought he was 20lbs off it from his posts - and that he was going to reach 19 stone by putting on 20lbs of muscle on his legs alone.
he won't get any bigger without gear imo unless he's willing to get fat.
I am 23. i have 15 good years of lifting left. My legs are awful through lack of training and my diet is poor. Hell I could probaly be 18stone by January at a decent b/f level
Cheers _bruce_ also
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Okami I am 17st 4lbs atm and a lil over 6'3. I reckon I could easily add 20-30lbs of lean mass to my frame while at my current b/f levels - cheers for the props though.
btqw I am not talking about contest lean. i mean my surrent leanness.
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I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??
Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?
What's the point of lying ?
Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat
X I lost count.
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I am 23. i have 15 good years of lifting left. My legs are awful through lack of training and my diet is poor. Hell I could probaly be 18stone by January at a decent b/f level
Cheers _bruce_ also
i think you have good legs for a guy as tall as you.
1 cycle of test, maybe 2 would get you to 19 stone with less fat than you are carrying now - if you truely are a natural as you claim.
some pics of you i think you have definately used gear while others i believe you havn't.
either way you are a beast.
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If you actually care enough and you have teh time to trawl I have pics from 2006 right through to the present day where I have made slow gradual and pretty continuous progress
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If you actually care enough and you have teh time to trawl I have pics from 2006 right through to the present day where I have made slow gradual and pretty continuous progress
sure post them up :)
am i correct in thinking it was the tried and trusted 5x5 workouts you used to attain your mass ? and only ever take 120g of protein a day due to your kidney ?
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If you actually care enough and you have teh time to trawl I have pics from 2006 right through to the present day where I have made slow gradual and pretty continuous progress
dianabol is a helluva drug
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Nobody ever accuses me of juicing :(
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sure post them up :)
am i correct in thinking it was the tried and trusted 5x5 workouts you used to attain your mass ? and only ever take 120g of protein a day due to your kidney ?
Yes - sort of.
UI recently bumoped protein up in past 2 months Id say and have added 7lbs - I also cut downm training to 4x week and am getting better results.
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Yes - sort of.
UI recently bumoped protein up in past 2 months Id say and have added 7lbs - I also cut downm training to 4x week and am getting better results.
so on average how many grams of carbs/fats/protein do you eat a day? what was it like untill the recent change?
wern't your workouts were based on riptoe/madcow 5x5 ? 5sets of 5 reps? powerlifting rather than bodybuilding?
do you use pre/post workout nutrition ? how about creatine ?
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I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??
Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?
What's the point of lying ?
Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat
I think Goudy has a solid build, looks thick.
But c'mon do you really think someone can't be 242, naturally @ SIX FUCKING FOUR.
Give the guy a break.
....oh I forgot, your genetics are far "superior" to his, and you didn't do it w/o steroids - so NO ONE can.
*Conceited.
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Yes - sort of.
UI recently bumoped protein up in past 2 months Id say and have added 7lbs - I also cut downm training to 4x week and am getting better results.
7 lbs of pure muscle in the last two months? that's what you're implying when you say you "bumoped" [sic] your protein up and are "getting better results."
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7 lbs of pure muscle in the last two months? that's what you're implying when you say you "bumoped" [sic] your protein up and are "getting better results."
7lbs of weight. Of all that 2lbs was probaly muscle. rest was prob water glycogen etc and a bit muscle memory from when I stopped leg training. TBH I think i was overtrained for a long time.
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I think Goudy has a solid build, looks thick.
But c'mon do you really think someone can't be 242, naturally @ SIX FUCKING FOUR.
Give the guy a break.
....oh I forgot, your genetics are far "superior" to his, and you didn't do it w/o steroids - so NO ONE can.
*Conceited.
I LOL'ed when Sev said he has better genetics than me.
Going by his logic...he got up to 217 on gear
I'm 257...even if I was on gear....I put on 40lbs more than he did at the same exact height. But he has the better genetics ::) ::)
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so on average how many grams of carbs/fats/protein do you eat a day? what was it like untill the recent change?
wern't your workouts were based on riptoe/madcow 5x5 ? 5sets of 5 reps? powerlifting rather than bodybuilding?
do you use pre/post workout nutrition ? how about creatine ?
I dont count or restrict my carbs fat. Quite easily Id exceed 400-500g of carbs a day - however a lot of this was sugary carbs and crap
The last year or 2 it was focused a lot on high weight low reps (relatively) and a lot of sets. I have since changed it to more 8-12 rep sets - maybe as low as 5 reps on a few sets at the start of workout then its all reps.
pre worlout i have bananas and a protein shake. after i eat my lunch before i start work
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I LOL'ed when Sev said he has better genetics than me.
Going by his logic...he got up to 217 on gear
I'm 257...even if I was on gear....I put on 40lbs more than he did at the same exact height. But he has the better genetics ::) ::)
I dont think anyone takes anything he says to be anyway truthful
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I dont think anyone takes anything he says to be anyway truthful
I like SEV....But his tremendous ego makes him prone to posting utter nonsense at times
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I like SEV....But his tremendous ego makes him prone to posting utter nonsense at times
I like him also but he somehow fails to see that much romanians that emigrate here are gypsies
We had a fallingout when I mentioned this
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200 max
Haha he's 190 tops, looks like complete shit and on a gram of juice.
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I LOL'ed when Sev said he has better genetics than me.
Going by his logic...he got up to 217 on gear
I'm 257...even if I was on gear....I put on 40lbs more than he did at the same exact height. But he has the better genetics ::) ::)
This clown looks nothing close to that body weight, on 1g of gear and no visible mid section, what a jk...........
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I LOL'ed when Sev said he has better genetics than me.
Going by his logic...he got up to 217 on gear
I'm 257...even if I was on gear....I put on 40lbs more than he did at the same exact height. But he has the better genetics ::) ::)
257 at what, 5-11 I think and totally natural. Arnold at 6-2 at 234 pounds and juiced to the tits. So, you weigh over 20 pounds more than Arnold and are 3 inches shorter and are totally natural. I understand you probably aren't as low on bf as him on stage, but now you claim 257 with "abs". So the claims are becoming extraordinary, and no one questions it. Where is the great Squadfather when you need him?
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257 at what, 5-11 I think and totally natural. Arnold at 6-2 at 234 pounds and juiced to the tits. So, you weigh over 20 pounds more than Arnold and are 3 inches shorter and are totally natural. I understand you probably aren't as low on bf as him on stage, but now you claim 257 with "abs". So the claims are becoming extraordinary, and no one questions it. Where is the great Squadfather when you need him?
finally a voice of reason...
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I LOL'ed when Sev said he has better genetics than me.
Going by his logic...he got up to 217 on gear
I'm 257...even if I was on gear....I put on 40lbs more than he did at the same exact height. But he has the better genetics ::) ::)
Fool, of course he has better genetics than you. Gypsy boy is part Winged Lion.
It's the highest frequency that can exist in physical reality.
There's an etheric race of golden winged lions with violet eyes
I have their genetics. It's in my frequency.
I will have it tatooed on my right arm. Not sure yet about the design. But it'll be a golden winged lion with violet eyes.
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Personally I believe you lie about your weight
you are not close to 260 there .. I am truly 217 in this pic and if I'd be next to you I'd prolly look at least as big as you
so either you exagerate what you weigh or you misread the scale
I personally think you are about 230 maximum in that pic IF that and you are clearly on gear . And I think you are big boned compared to me also.
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Personally I believe you lie about your weight
you are not close to 260 there .. I am truly 217 in this pic and if I'd be next to you I'd prolly look at least as big as you
so either you exagerate what you weigh or you misread the scale
I personally think you are about 230 maximum in that pic IF that and you are clearly on gear . And I think you are big boned compared to me also.
I'm going to have someone take a picture of me standing on the scale today with the reading visible, will that convince you?
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I'm going to have someone take a picture of me standing on the scale today with the reading visible, will that convince you?
well
check this out
I am here 217 ... you are 257 ... same height same bodyfat percentage .... wtf ??
if you still don't get it ... here's me at 217 and 35 lbs less ... see the difference ?
now try and explain me the 40 lbs diff ...where the fuck is it ? and I have big legs and you said yours are small ..what gives brother ?
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groink..I love you bro
BUT:
check out this pic of mine. I'm exactly your height and 217 here on almost a gram of anabolics weekly. Care to explain me how you weigh 255 at the same height while natural ? ( and don't start with genetics cause I actually have you beat in that dept ;) )
this fucktard is so incredibly delusional its pure madness. You look like you ve been training for 2 years naturally and like you re on creatine for 6 months, not like you re on...steroids rofl. Looks like you ve been "using" fake gear ...
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well
check this out
I am here 217 ... you are 257 ... same height same bodyfat percentage .... wtf ??
if you still don't get it ... here's me at 217 and 35 lbs less ... see the difference ?
now try and explain me the 40 lbs diff ...where the fuck is it ? and I have big legs and you said yours are small ..what gives brother ?
Don't know what to tell you, that's what i weigh.
Like i said I will 100% prove it.
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Don't know what to tell you, that's what i weigh.
Like i said I will 100% prove it.
it's possible .. but 257 natural ? you'd be better of convincing me I have beautiful hair
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maybe pics don't do you justice. You def look bigger than I was at almost 220 . I could buy the 257. The natural thing though ...both you me and your dealer know what's up ;D
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this fucktard is so incredibly delusional its pure madness. You look like you ve been training for 2 years naturally and like you re on creatine for 6 months, not like you re on...steroids rofl. Looks like you ve been "using" fake gear ...
I actually agree with that.sev is kinda egomaniac so he keeps comparing himself to groink which is not the best comparison...which I think is why groink tends to respond to those posts more than the ones that really shed a light on the situation.
257 at what, 5-11 I think and totally natural. Arnold at 6-2 at 234 pounds and juiced to the tits. So, you weigh over 20 pounds more than Arnold and are 3 inches shorter and are totally natural. I understand you probably aren't as low on bf as him on stage, but now you claim 257 with "abs". So the claims are becoming extraordinary, and no one questions it. Where is the great Squadfather when you need him?
bottom line 255lbs with a flat stomach (visable abs) wether blurry abs or ripped would make someone the greatest natural in history...I mean seriously do we need 2 go back and look at past Olympia and Arnold classic winners height and weight.along with height and weights of the winners of armature tested events.
. I could buy the 257. The natural thing though ...both you me and your dealer know what's up ;D
these are valid points that should put things in perspective...Do we really think that a natural at under 6 foot natural can be 255-257lbs with abs?are people really that naive?Do we really need to go back and look at the heights and weights of past Olympia,Arnold classic,or even top armatures to see how ridiculous this shit sounds.
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groink! what is your strength stats? bench/dead/squat?
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Weight is so different from measurements.
Ali was only an inch or so taller than arnie and only what 15lbs lighter? However he looked 50lbs lighter.
Sev you are big enough in that pic at 217 but the difference in the delts and arms alone is enormous between you and Groink.
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Gear is great though
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this fucktard is so incredibly delusional its pure madness. You look like you ve been training for 2 years naturally and like you re on creatine for 6 months, not like you re on...steroids rofl. Looks like you ve been "using" fake gear ...
For once I agree with the angry German.
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groink! what is your strength stats? bench/dead/squat?
Don't know
Don't know
Don't know
My last bench workout I did 335 X 7 with another two forced
I don't deadlift....I do partials with 365 for sets of 12, I think heavy deads ruin your lines
Last squat workout (40 mins ago) i got 425 for 8 clean, but I do extensions and leg curls first, then squat.
This right here is one reason a person without an agenda could believe I'm natty....i don't throw big weight around for a guy my size.
I'm not weak, but 255 geared up would be stronger i think
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Strong lifts dude!
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Strong lifts dude!
Thanks Goudy...but I really don't think they are all that great.
I'm far from the strongest guy in my gym
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OMG LOL that is so mean dude, but it would be funny if you put maybe bob o in there.
jt
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No wonder - that gym doesnt have any weights. all the weight trees are empty ???
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is Sev wingedlion or was he quoting sevastase, I pmed sev to get together but he never answers my pm's
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257 at what, 5-11 I think and totally natural. Arnold at 6-2 at 234 pounds and juiced to the tits. So, you weigh over 20 pounds more than Arnold and are 3 inches shorter and are totally natural. I understand you probably aren't as low on bf as him on stage, but now you claim 257 with "abs". So the claims are becoming extraordinary, and no one questions it. Where is the great Squadfather when you need him?
You are not comparing apples with apples there.
Look how lean A was at that weight , Groink carrys alot more water and fat than Arnold at that weight.
If groink dropped to 6 - 8 % genuine he would be 200 - 210 if that.
Pics that groink is posting makes it to hard to tell.
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Don't know
Don't know
Don't know
My last bench workout I did 335 X 7 with another two forced
I don't deadlift....I do partials with 365 for sets of 12, I think heavy deads ruin your lines
Last squat workout (40 mins ago) i got 425 for 8 clean, but I do extensions and leg curls first, then squat.
That bench workout, was that flats or incline?
This right here is one reason a person without an agenda could believe I'm natty....i don't throw big weight around for a guy my size.
I'm not weak, but 255 geared up would be stronger i think
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You are not comparing apples with apples there.
Look how lean A was at that weight , Groink carrys alot more water and fat than Arnold at that weight.
If groink dropped to 6 - 8 % genuine he would be 200 - 210 if that.
Pics that groink is posting makes it to hard to tell.
Arnold even in off season bulking when his bodyfat got to the mid teens as groinks probably is never weighed much more than groink does now(and Arnold is taller) so it still doesn't add up....plus keep in mind were comparing arguably the greatest bodybuilder ever to a guy on the internet that claims to be completely natural....which if that were true a few inches or lbs or BF% difference either way from Arnold wouldn't matter.because if your looking at a truly natural bodybuilder that weighs nearly 260lbs and has visable abs then your looking at the greatest natural bodybuilder in history...which would mean 1-2 cycles would put a natural bodybuilder with that much of a natural muscle base close to 300lbs with abs fully juiced.....So it's either he's the greatest natural ever or he's full of BS...I believe it's the latter of the 2.
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Arnold even in off season bulking when his bodyfat got to the mid teens as groinks probably is never weighed much more than groink does now(and Arnold is taller) so it still doesn't add up....plus keep in mind were comparing arguably the greatest bodybuilder ever to a guy on the internet that claims to be completely natural....which if that were true a few inches or lbs or BF% difference either way from Arnold wouldn't matter.because if your looking at a truly natural bodybuilder that weighs nearly 260lbs and has visable abs then your looking at the greatest natural bodybuilder in history...which would mean 1-2 cycles would put a natural bodybuilder with that much of a natural muscle base close to 300lbs with abs fully juiced.....So it's either he's the greatest natural ever or he's full of BS...I believe it's the latter of the 2.
who cares....really
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who cares....really
oh honestly it's just callin it like it is...not who cares or not...I honestly have no issue with any persons choice to use gear or any other drug for that matter.I don't support the war on drugs.The government should not be trying to regulate what a person chooses to put in there own body.punishment for such decisions should only be handed down when the use of any givin drug affects any other person negatively.such as driving while intoxicated or robing someone for crack money....
However thats not the point.Fact of the matter is it all comes down to being a realist.for example...kids honestly thought growing up Hulk Hogan just said his prayers ate his vitamines and said no to drugs as he classically stated for years.Or that just eating right and training would get you a build like your favorite action star like Arnold or Stallone....When you grow up and gain some knowledge and common sense you realize thats bullshit...Like the newbie in the gym that asks the juicehead how he got that big."oh I eat alot of steak"...yea OK.....If a person chooses to remain naive or lie to themselves or others about what can be attained naturally fine.Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
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oh honestly it's just callin it like it is...not who cares or not...I honestly have no issue with any persons choice to use gear or any other drug for that matter.I don't support the war on drugs.The government should not be trying to regulate what a person chooses to put in there own body.punishment for such decisions should only be handed down when the use of any givin drug affects any other person negatively.such as driving while intoxicated or robing someone for crack money....
How about druggies that don't take care of their kids?
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This is awful photo. I am only tensing abs. Lighting was poor but you can see outline.
That is 242 @ 6'3.5". Lean enought abut at stage ready leanness I would be 210lbs MAX
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This is awful photo. I am only tensing abs. Lighting was poor but you can see outline.
That is 242 @ 6'3.5". Lean enought abut at stage ready leanness I would be 210lbs MAX
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I am the master of the PHONE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am the master of the PHONE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!
Juice or no juice you are a huge bastard
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looking big groink :o
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I am the master of the PHONE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!
At least 3x
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Thanks guys. Not fishing for compliments
Just busting chops on the dudes who are begging to jerk off to a full body pic :D :D
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At least 3x
;D ;D ;D ;D
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here's a pic of me totally clean........
shaven, haha.
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here's a pic of me totally clean........
shaven, haha.
Your vascularity is fucking insane. seriously...you are veiny-er than my cock
DAMN :o
oh yeah, you look pretty big there too ;D
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here's a pic of me totally clean........
shaven, haha.
Huge bastard!!
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thanx guys. too bad a had a habit of getting rid of most of my muscle in the last week before a show.
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I am the master of the PHONE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!
This pic looks natural to me , doesnt have that tight pumped look through the delts and traps that a guy that is on has.
Compare to a guy like croatch who is deff on and you can see the difference.
Also look to the chest even with tank top on , groink is carrying a bit of bf and water here , decent arms for a natty
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thanx guys. too bad a had a habit of getting rid of most of my muscle in the last week before a show.
how so?
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This pic looks natural to me , doesnt have that tight pumped look through the delts and traps that a guy that is on has.
Compare to a guy like croatch who is deff on and you can see the difference.
Also look to the chest even with tank top on , groink is carrying a bit of bf and water here , decent arms for a natty
Will - your green tshirt hugging those huge biceps is epic!
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thanx guys. too bad a had a habit of getting rid of most of my muscle in the last week before a show.
Only on Getbig can you be compared to a penis and it's a compliment :D :D
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Will - your green tshirt hugging those huge biceps is epic!
Methbod could teach us all a thing or two about training and awesome genetics, who needs drugs when you can build a body like that , it's olympia potential right there :D
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Methbod could teach us all a thing or two about training and awesome genetics, who needs drugs when you can build a body like that , it's olympia potential right there :D
lmao Methbod!!!!!
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This pic looks natural to me , doesnt have that tight pumped look through the delts and traps that a guy that is on has.
Compare to a guy like croatch who is deff on and you can see the difference.
Also look to the chest even with tank top on , groink is carrying a bit of bf and water here , decent arms for a natty
Well I am natural.
In my defense....i am just standing there, not flexing my chest. it's got some striations, nothing crazy
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Well I am natural.
In my defense....i am just standing there, not flexing my chest. it's got some striations, nothing crazy
Settle down Doris :D
If you were lean you would see the split between your pecs popping over the top , plus have a hard look..you are not fat as in obese but are carrying water giving a soft look..
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Settle down Doris :D
If you were lean you would see the split between your pecs popping over the top , plus have a hard look..you are not fat as in obese but are carrying water giving a soft look..
oh yeah...i'm prolly 15%.
Not anything near contest lean, but i will say i am more muscular than these pics show.......
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Your vascularity is fucking insane. seriously...you are veiny-er than my cock
DAMN :o
oh yeah, you look pretty big there too ;D
i'd say to the chicks at the bar. wanna see something big hard and veiny? and then hit a forearm pose, good for a laugh.
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how so?
what most guys would do to lose 5 lbs. of surface water would drain my intramuscular water and i would look small and smooth. dammit!!
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I am the master of the PHONE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!
Looking huge, bro. Fcuking tank 8)
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I am the master of the PHONE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!
you are really big here...I believe your weight
BUT
you reek both test and orals ... trying to pass as a natie you are just insulting our collective intelligence ....you are on at least 1.5 grams of anabolics and my guess is prolly 2-3 grams total
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you are really big here...I believe your weight
BUT
you reek both test and orals ... trying to pass as a natie you are just insulting our collective intelligence ....you are on at least 1.5 grams of anabolics and my guess is prolly 2-3 grams total
Awesome !!!!!!! :D :D
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Awesome !!!!!!! :D :D
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Groink THICK THICK bis!
When I do bis Im gonna think of you browski! (no homo)
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I am the master of the PHONE PIC!!!!!!!!!!!
what kind of phone is that groink? Sorry for picking on you about the size thing, I hate it when people attack Nasser.
i'd say to the chicks at the bar. wanna see something big hard and veiny? and then hit a forearm pose, good for a laugh.
hazbin r u for rent?
jt
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what kind of phone is that groink? Sorry for picking on you about the size thing, I hate it when people attack Nasser.
hazbin r u for rent?
jt
Samsung Eternity.
good phone....full touch screen, works fast.
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you are really big here...I believe your weight
BUT
you reek both test and orals ... trying to pass as a natie you are just insulting our collective intelligence ....you are on at least 1.5 grams of anabolics and my guess is prolly 2-3 grams total
His face doesnt have the bloat it would from juice. 3gs! Cmon man!
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His face doesnt have the bloat it would from juice. 3gs! Cmon man!
LOL
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Sev was up to 240lbs If i remember correct - is there any pics
Dont get me wrong he had good legs and was strong as hell but he did look small for his weight.
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Ok show me a pic.
Like I said you were very strong with very good legs but you had a weak back and were narrow (relatively).
I genuinely doubt at 245 you looked bigger than I do now champ!
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notice I said relatively.
No REAL detail or Thickness.
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Now you are leaner but notice how much narrower and smaller in general you are in the black and white photo.
Your width has diminished
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Just look a bit fatter there than the original photos. You must be carrying maybe 20lbs more fat/bloat.
Have you no recent photos.? All those seem to be from 2007 ???
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you are really big here...I believe your weight
BUT
you reek both test and orals ... trying to pass as a natie you are just insulting our collective intelligence ....you are on at least 1.5 grams of anabolics and my guess is prolly 2-3 grams total
more like creatine... spermastase, it wasnt necessary to change your nickname and avatar to keep spilling the same insecure , frustrated shit over and over about people who look better than you "at your best" without even using steroids.
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Now you are leaner but notice how much narrower and smaller in general you are in the black and white photo.
Your width has diminished
jesus whitebread give it a rest
I bet you're the kind of guy who tells his girl : " No my dick is not small ..your pussy is too big "
" Goudy, your dick is only 4 inches and I measured it from your asshole !"
" You picked the wrong magnyfing glass "
" But I don't feel anything !"
" You insensitive whore ! "
" Goudy I really wanna do this ( tears of truf streaming down her cheeks ) "
" ( shouting loud so they can hear him ) FUCK YOU MOM AND DAD ! "
" ( Bitch turns on the light ) AAAAAAAA!!!!!! "
" ( GOUDY ) What ?? "
" ( she points ) You're head is so small it freaked me out ! Looks like the arab dude Will Smith blew up in MIB "
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI2MDgyNDQyM15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTA2NzY2._V1._SX600_SY365_.jpg)
( Goudy angry ) " Fuck you ! We're through ! You're prolly a lesbian ..."
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jesus whitebread give it a rest
I bet you're the kind of guy who tells his girl : " No my dick is not small ..your pussy is too big "
" Goudy, your dick is only 4 inches and I measured it from your asshole !"
" You picked the wrong magnyfing glass "
" But I don't feel anything !"
" You insensitive whore ! "
" Goudy I really wanna do this ( tears of truf streaming down her cheeks ) "
" ( shouting loud so they can hear him ) FUCK YOU MOM AND DAD ! "
" ( Bitch turns on the light ) AAAAAAAA!!!!!! "
" ( GOUDY ) What ?? "
" ( she points ) You're head is so small it freaked me out ! Looks like the arab dude Will Smith blew up in MIB "
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI2MDgyNDQyM15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTA2NzY2._V1._SX600_SY365_.jpg)
( Goudy angry ) " Fuck you ! We're through ! You're prolly a lesbian ..."
is this suposed to be an impressive comeback?
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is this suposed to be an impressive comeback?
I see I have touched a sensitive nerve with you in the past. Otherwise I cannot explain you following me in every thread desperately tryin to "own" me
lol
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I see I have touched a sensitive nerve with you in the past. Otherwise I cannot explain you following me in every thread desperately tryin to "own" me
lol
looks like the internets are very deep in your mind.
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Wow, that was an unexpected meltdown from the romanian gypsie ???
I actually made reasonable points and he took it real bad. Ouch.
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looks like the internets are very deep in your mind.
wow
I give up !
This comeback is too witty !
Gayer than sippin a strawberry Daiquiri at the Blue Oyster
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Wow, that was an unexpected meltdown from the romanian gypsie ???
I actually made reasonable points and he took it real bad. Ouch.
Would you mind posting the higher functioning dawn syndrome blue/yellow shirted pic of you with glasses hitting the most uncoordonated pose in the hystory of bodybuilding ?
I need it for my previous post
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It was a green and gold shirt.
Yes I wear glasses most of the time and was pulling a face.
Could you post the topless pic of you standing on a beach looking like someone shouted at you?
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It was a green and gold shirt.
Yes I wear glasses most of the time and was pulling a face.
Could you post the topless pic of you standing on a beach looking like someone shouted at you?
;)
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hahahaha steroids to look like that , unbelievable.
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can you post it now ?
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hahahaha steroids to look like that , unbelievable.
it's in Bulgaria
just owned yourself
AGAIN :D
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hahahaha steroids to look like that , unbelievable.
hahahaha
you changed your post to hide your self owning
self owned to infinity and beyond
your post said " beaches in romania " :D
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Sevaste trained for 14 years
He said he cant train without juice.
Shooting 1-2grams/week
That pathetic body is
the best he can look with years and years of juicing.
Worst, pathetic juice genetics on Getbig.
the Romanian gypsie, could rival Romano in
taking everything and still looking crappy league.
Waiting for his political refugee letter from the US embassy
Arguing and posting: "Hahaha self owned" over and over, good luck sevastese
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it's in Bulgaria
just owned yourself
AGAIN :D
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're back with a "bang" bro ;D
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Sevaste trained for 14 years
He said he cant train without juice.
Shooting 1-2grams/week
That pathetic body is
the best he can look with years and years of juicing.
Worst, pathetic juice genetics on Getbig.
the Romanian gypsie, could rival Romano in
taking everything and still looking crappy league.
Waiting for his political refugee letter from the US embassy
Arguing and posting: "Hahaha self owned" over and over, good luck sevastese
here's a nice bouquet for your efforts
(http://gal2.ineogen.ro/galleries/socialro/dc/b1/0c393561_0050000710456_00_600.jpg)
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're back with a "bang" bro ;D
did you see how he changed the text quick ?
wow...here's uberman as we speak :D
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ubermaan.......ursuuuuuu uus ...where are youuuu ?
(http://www.mylifetime.com/files/imagecache/photo_gallery_featured/files/images/e-gall-theshining-395x298.jpg)
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Samsung Eternity.
good phone....full touch screen, works fast.
very cool, do you listen to music while you workout with it? Why did you choose it over the iphone?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=304050.0;attach=345805;image)
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Would you mind posting the higher functioning dawn syndrome blue/yellow shirted pic of you with glasses hitting the most uncoordonated pose in the hystory of bodybuilding ?
I need it for my previous post
"ursus" looking pensive
(http://worldhaveyoursay.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/otto-baxter.jpg)
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very cool, do you listen to music while you workout with it? Why did you choose it over the iphone?
yeah you can listen to music, It's actually got a jack for a regular headphone, you don't have to buy a proprietary one.
The iphone is gay.
seriously, i didn't want an iphone....everybody and their mother has one.
I wasn't even going to get a phone this tricked out but it was only $40 after the rebate
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oh yeah...i'm prolly 15%.
Not anything near contest lean, but i will say i am more muscular than these pics show.......
255-260 @ 15% bf would mean contest-ready at 230 lbs at 5'11" Is that what you would estimate? :)
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255-260 @ 15% bf would mean contest-ready at 230 lbs at 5'11" Is that what you would estimate? :)
Nope...probably 200-210
You can't just lose fat exclusively if you diet naturally.
If that was the case I would cut down, but I prefer being large and powerful with a little extra bf.... as opposed to a lean guy who has to eat wood all day.
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Nope...probably 200-210
You can't just lose fat exclusively if you diet naturally.
If that was the case I would cut down, but I prefer being large and powerful with a little extra bf.... as opposed to a lean guy who has to eat wood all day.
What's with all the arabic worshippers begging for white men to "cut down".... I think it's a "tactic" ...
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yeah you can listen to music, It's actually got a jack for a regular headphone, you don't have to buy a proprietary one.
The iphone is gay.
seriously, i didn't want an iphone....everybody and their mother has one.
I wasn't even going to get a phone this tricked out but it was only $40 after the rebate
That is nice, I hate the ones that you have to have a small little converter or use the crappy headphones they give you with the phone. I looked at the cnet video review of the phone looks cool! yeah you are right a lot of people have the iphone and that stands out.
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What's with all the arabic worshippers begging for white men to "cut down".... I think it's a "tactic" ...
LOL ;D ;D
Yep. that and "let me see your abs...... what do your biceps look like from the front" :P :P
I've never asked a guy to take his shirt off in my life
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That is nice, I hate the ones that you have to have a small little converter or use the crappy headphones they give you with the phone. I looked at the cnet video review of the phone looks cool! yeah you are right a lot of people have the iphone and that stands out.
I'm confused by your post jt but not by the love you have for me. I respect that.
I've worked on the bluetooth "short implementation" back during my Motorola days...
Couple year back my ex boss sent me a pair of stereo bluetooth headset before they came out.. changed my life. I think it's my 3rd pair (no homo)
(http://www.cellsina.com/images/P/MOTOROKR%99S9-Bluetooth%AEStereo-Headset.jpg)
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I'm confused by your post jt but not by the love you have for me. I respect that.
I've worked on the bluetooth "short implementation" back during my Motorola days...
Couple year back my ex boss sent me a pair of stereo bluetooth headset before they came out.. changed my life. I think it's my 3rd pair (no homo)
(http://www.cellsina.com/images/P/MOTOROKR%99S9-Bluetooth%AEStereo-Headset.jpg)
Those look sweet.
I really need to get with the program and bluetooth it up already
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LOL ;D ;D
Yep. that and "let me see your abs...... what do your biceps look like from the front" :P :P
I've never asked a guy to take his shirt off in my life
I'm not a racist but seems like the white "race" has been put on a "pedestal"... not that there's anything wrong with it... it's been put there for a reason... again no racist but let's call it what it is...
back to your point, you're a fucking greek god larger than a blue eyed squared jaw 2 garage door .... can you blame 'em ;D
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I'm not a racist but seems like the white "race" has been put on a "pedestal"... not that there's anything wrong with it... it's been put there for a reason... again no racist but let's call it what it is...
back to your point, you're a fucking greek god larger than a blue eyed squared jaw 2 garage door .... can you blame 'em ;D
You flatter me bro.
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I'm confused by your post jt but not by the love you have for me. I respect that.
I've worked on the bluetooth "short implementation" back during my Motorola days...
Couple year back my ex boss sent me a pair of stereo bluetooth headset before they came out.. changed my life. I think it's my 3rd pair (no homo)
(http://www.cellsina.com/images/P/MOTOROKR%99S9-Bluetooth%AEStereo-Headset.jpg)
king I'm sorry I confused you, sorry I didn't try to confuse anyone, I was just saying some phones he was saying come with this mini port that you gotta use some kind of convertor and the headphones they give you. He said his comes with a full head phone jack so he can use any head phones he wants.
Those heads phones look really cool, and I bet even cooler on you!!! Do you use them while working out or just for telephone calls?
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king I'm sorry I confused you, sorry I didn't try to confuse anyone, I was just saying some phones he was saying come with this mini port that you gotta use some kind of convertor and the headphones they give you. He said his comes with a full head phone jack so he can use any head phones he wants.
Those heads phones look really cool, and I bet even cooler on you!!! Do you use them while working out or just for telephone calls?
LOL!! thank JT, I hate those "combined mini port" shit... now I feel your pain... I give a good non-bluetooth neck massage for free I wish you were closer... but it does end there (no teasomo) ;D
Yea these babies allow you to take calls and all.. with good reception and audio... it just feels weird to be mid set shitting your pants and take an autocall.. but the show must go on and they appreciate it.
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I heard the bluetooth headphones/earphones are brutal on battery drainage... right now I use a few pair's of high end in ear's, shure, JBL, etc.
(http://img65.imageshack.us/i/shurese5302qi8.jpg/)
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/f55cc17652487a1c17f6152f4b153a0e.jpg)
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I heard the bluetooth headphones/earphones are brutal on battery drainage... right now I use a few pair's of high end in ear's, shure, JBL, etc.
(http://img65.imageshack.us/i/shurese5302qi8.jpg/)
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/f55cc17652487a1c17f6152f4b153a0e.jpg)
The fact that these are minicocked shaped doesn't surprised me based on the poster's name...
EarCanalSpeed.
;D
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The fact that these are minicocked shaped doesn't surprised me based on the poster's name...
EarCanalSpeed.
;D
LOL, these are professional/industry standard musician earpieces that are used by huge artists on stages around the world... unlike your little china made bluetooth headset...which you probably have to recharge every 30 minutes...lol
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LOL, these are professional/industry standard musician earpieces that are used by huge artists on stages around the world... unlike your little china made bluetooth headset...which you probably have to recharge every 30 minutes...lol
No offense CapEQ.. but at 5'10", 265LB... I'm ages huger than these stage artists.... ;D...
fuack it's good to be right now...sorry guys, it just is... I'm testo glowing these days ;D
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Natural? Maybe...257 with abs? LOL.
Groink hasn't seen sub 15% BF since he was 12.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......
Another hater, whose legs are smaller than my arms, appears out of the ether.
Let me guess.....26 posts but you can recite Getbig lore from the past six years ::) ::)
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This pic looks natural to me , doesnt have that tight pumped look through the delts and traps that a guy that is on has.
Compare to a guy like croatch who is deff on and you can see the difference.
Also look to the chest even with tank top on , groink is carrying a bit of bf and water here , decent arms for a natty
growth and aas,, may be off from aas for a number of weeks but in general growth and aas,,can be achiaved with aas by itself but this skin complection is usually a result of chinease grwoth use ,,his body fat is not 15% it is sub 12 % if not less he hold water weight which makes it look 12-15
over all this look can be achieved with aas use only and all you can eat diet doesnt have to be clean diet only somwwhat clean ,,most fellas at this level know their body very well and combine well between bodybuilding foods and shit food,, which is the only way ofcourse to get big
this is a look achieved by the use of testoterone and either nandrolone or eq ,,with orals here and there depending on the need
lastly,,i have never said groink had bad look ,,or put his look down! his physiqe is very good from picture i have seen ,, iits just not what natural would look at 5'11 when 5'11 fellas go over 190 lean or 215 lean bulk and over trust me they are ALL JUICERS AND VERY EXPERIENCED ONES !
gh15 approved
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I see I have touched a sensitive nerve with you in the past. Otherwise I cannot explain you following me in every thread desperately tryin to "own" me
lol
No,youre just a tramp
'Im an american resident',that proud of ur romanian nationality eh?
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growth and aas,, may be off from aas for a number of weeks but in general growth and aas,,can be achiaved with aas by itself but this skin complection is usually a result of chinease grwoth use ,,his body fat is not 15% it is sub 12 % if not less he hold water weight which makes it look 12-15
over all this look can be achieved with aas use only and all you can eat diet doesnt have to be clean diet only somwwhat clean ,,most fellas at this level know their body very well and combine well between bodybuilding foods and shit food,, which is the only way ofcourse to get big
this is a look achieved by the use of testoterone and either nandrolone or eq ,,with orals here and there depending on the need
lastly,,i have never said groink had bad look ,,or put his look down! his physiqe is very good from picture i have seen ,, iits just not what natural would look at 5'11 when 5'11 fellas go over 190 lean or 215 lean bulk and over trust me they are ALL JUICERS AND VERY EXPERIENCED ONES !
gh15 approved
Please explain what you mean by skin complection from Chinese gh as opposed to how it would be if it were American or European growth?
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growth and aas,, may be off from aas for a number of weeks but in general growth and aas,,can be achiaved with aas by itself but this skin complection is usually a result of chinease grwoth use ,,his body fat is not 15% it is sub 12 % if not less he hold water weight which makes it look 12-15
over all this look can be achieved with aas use only and all you can eat diet doesnt have to be clean diet only somwwhat clean ,,most fellas at this level know their body very well and combine well between bodybuilding foods and shit food,, which is the only way ofcourse to get big
this is a look achieved by the use of testoterone and either nandrolone or eq ,,with orals here and there depending on the need
lastly,,i have never said groink had bad look ,,or put his look down! his physiqe is very good from picture i have seen ,, iits just not what natural would look at 5'11 when 5'11 fellas go over 190 lean or 215 lean bulk and over trust me they are ALL JUICERS AND VERY EXPERIENCED ONES !
gh15 approved
Also, I've noticed you've been posting very intermittently often without follow up. You promised us that after MJ was murdered that you wouldn't hold back on us anymore.
You live just down the road from me. Don't make me have to come over there.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336368;image)
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The fact that these are minicocked shaped doesn't surprised me based on the poster's name...
EarCanalSpeed.
;D
minicockshaped hahahahahaha
OWNED ! baaaaaaaaaam!!
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Nope...probably 200-210
You can't just lose fat exclusively if you diet naturally.
If that was the case I would cut down, but I prefer being large and powerful with a little extra bf.... as opposed to a lean guy who has to eat wood all day.
Agreed. Most people foprget that they will lose some muscle as they diet down.
I know a BBuilder that sets his b/f level to be 0% and starts his diet - that way it takes into account for lost muscle and gives him a weight he should be coming in at.
BTW in no way am i saying his b/f is 0% probaly 4% on stage but he uses 0% as a benchmark to work out his diet
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No offense CapEQ.. but at 5'10", 265LB... I'm ages huger than these stage artists.... ;D...
fuack it's good to be right now...sorry guys, it just is... I'm testo glowing these days ;D
That Jintropin from China finally kicked in eh ? ;)
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I still don't get that Chinese gh complection thing. For something to be HGH doesn't it simply have to conform to a particular molecular structure? What difference does it make if it is done by a Chink or an Americano?
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growth and aas,, may be off from aas for a number of weeks but in general growth and aas,,can be achiaved with aas by itself but this skin complection is usually a result of chinease grwoth use ,,his body fat is not 15% it is sub 12 % if not less he hold water weight which makes it look 12-15
over all this look can be achieved with aas use only and all you can eat diet doesnt have to be clean diet only somwwhat clean ,,most fellas at this level know their body very well and combine well between bodybuilding foods and shit food,, which is the only way ofcourse to get big
this is a look achieved by the use of testoterone and either nandrolone or eq ,,with orals here and there depending on the need
lastly,,i have never said groink had bad look ,,or put his look down! his physiqe is very good from picture i have seen ,, iits just not what natural would look at 5'11 when 5'11 fellas go over 190 lean or 215 lean bulk and over trust me they are ALL JUICERS AND VERY EXPERIENCED ONES !
gh15 approved
Wow..... I'm truly flattered you think I'm on all that shit.
But one thing i want to ask you gh, is you are spot on the money about the water.
My water fluctuates dramatically over the course of a day, I can look like a bloated penis and three hours later I look hard and vascular.
It's fucking weird, and very frustrating. What can i do to keep my water in check?
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Does sev geuinely think he the limit for a natural both in terms of size and strength.
Dont get me wrong his bench and squats are excellent really impressive but come on he hardly looks as impressive as his lifts suggest
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Wow..... I'm truly flattered you think I'm on all that shit.
But one thing i want to ask you gh, is you are spot on the money about the water.
My water fluctuates dramatically over the course of a day, I can look like a bloated penis and three hours later I look hard and vascular.
It's fucking weird, and very frustrating. What can i do to keep my water in check?
Hydrochlorothiazide and Furosemide ;)
or if you really wanna go the natural route, dandelion root
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Agreed. Most people foprget that they will lose some muscle as they diet down.
I know a BBuilder that sets his b/f level to be 0% and starts his diet - that way it takes into account for lost muscle and gives him a weight he should be coming in at.
BTW in no way am i saying his b/f is 0% probaly 4% on stage but he uses 0% as a benchmark to work out his diet
255-260 at 15% still equals 217 to 221 at 0%.
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Then lose water etc probaly another 10-15lbs
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Then lose water etc probaly another 10-15lbs
10 lbs of water loss? doubt it.
maybe around 5lbs or so not more.
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I'd say Groink would be around 220-225 shredded.
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I'd say Groink would be around 220-225 shredded.
You're absolutely retarded, try around 195-205 TOPS
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Groink is a big broskie no doubt
i think he admitted taking pro hormones
as they don't do shit he is probably considered natural
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As vascular as gutler.
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You guys all fail to realize how much size/weight a person loses when they get into contest shape... shit, look at Arvilla he went from walking around at 276 to competing at 203 or something..
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growth and aas,, may be off from aas for a number of weeks but in general growth and aas,,can be achiaved with aas by itself but this skin complection is usually a result of chinease grwoth use ,,his body fat is not 15% it is sub 12 % if not less he hold water weight which makes it look 12-15
over all this look can be achieved with aas use only and all you can eat diet doesnt have to be clean diet only somwwhat clean ,,most fellas at this level know their body very well and combine well between bodybuilding foods and shit food,, which is the only way ofcourse to get big
this is a look achieved by the use of testoterone and either nandrolone or eq ,,with orals here and there depending on the need
lastly,,i have never said groink had bad look ,,or put his look down! his physiqe is very good from picture i have seen ,, iits just not what natural would look at 5'11 when 5'11 fellas go over 190 lean or 215 lean bulk and over trust me they are ALL JUICERS AND VERY EXPERIENCED ONES !
gh15 approved
DAMN... GH15 forgot to misspell and use shitty grammer in that paragraph.
MJ approved
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Wow..... I'm truly flattered you think I'm on all that shit.
But one thing i want to ask you gh, is you are spot on the money about the water.
My water fluctuates dramatically over the course of a day, I can look like a bloated penis and three hours later I look hard and vascular.
It's fucking weird, and very frustrating. What can i do to keep my water in check?
maybe daylight vs dim lightning? :D
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Since the other thread got deleted, here goes....I'm comparable to big Groink ;)
In the tanktop most-muscular camera phone comparison
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103123.0;attach=344607;image)
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In the clothed relaxed comparison. Actually here I am bigger, but to be fair he said he has put on some size since the couch picture was taken
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302208.0;attach=345813;image)
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And in the camera phone back reflection comparison ;) (I'm at the disadvantage here since I took the pic in a retail changeroom instead of a gym like Groink who is pumped).
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=311401;image)
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Oh shut the fuck up with this nonsense already.
You were getting brutally owned on that other thread, as you will here.
Couple of facts:
You are 5'9" 200
I'm 5'11" 255. if we stood next to each other you would look like a child
Look at the relative size of our heads to our backs. You either have a giant head, or a tiny back.
In the pics of us from the front I look like a muscular guy, you look like a blob of shit. And BTW that was 6 years and 30 lbs ago....and I still own you
That one pose that you do look good in is an optical illusion, It's must be an Arab thing because i can't even put my arms and shoulders in that position.
You said in the other thread that your arms are comparable to mine.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
Please my arms push 20 inches, yours are 16 if you are lucky.
It's admirable that you throw yourself in front of a bullet for your hero, but you are making an ass of yourself
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And in the camera phone back reflection comparison ;) (I'm at the disadvantage here since I took the pic in a retail changeroom instead of a gym like Groink who is pumped).
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=311401;image)
Unless you put on 40 lbs of muscle when you get "pumped" ::) it doesn't change anything
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Huge guns Groink !!
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Huge guns Groink !!
But Bigknobs just as big as me Wes ::)
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Oh shut the fuck up with this nonsense already.
You were getting brutally owned on that other thread, as you will here.
Couple of facts:
You are 5'9" 200
I'm 5'11" 255. if we stood next to each other you would look like a child
Look at the relative size of our heads to our backs. You either have a giant head, or a tiny back.
In the pics of us from the front I look like a muscular guy, you look like a blob of shit. And BTW that was 6 years and 30 lbs ago....and I still own you
That one pose that you do look good in is an optical illusion, It's must be an Arab thing because i can't even put my arms and shoulders in that position.
You said in the other thread that your arms are comparable to mine.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
Please my arms push 20 inches, yours are 16 if you are lucky.
It's admirable that you throw yourself in front of a bullet for your hero, but you are making an ass of yourself
Bob, take a look at that pic. You can't honestly think you're as big as Groink. That's not me hating on you, that's just the facts.
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Oh shut the fuck up with this nonsense already.
Whoa, no need to get all angry man. :-\
Look at the relative size of our heads to our backs. You either have a giant head, or a tiny back.
Nope, I'm turning my head to the side in the back shot, so obviously my head will take more area in the photo, that's all.
In the pics of us from the front I look like a muscular guy, you look like a blob of shit
Example please? Which photos are you talking about? I posted two comparisons of us from the front.
That one pose that you do look good in is an optical illusion, It's must be an Arab thing because i can't even put my arms and shoulders in that position.
lol come on man, "optical illusion" ::)
You said in the other thread that your arms are comparable to mine.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
Please my arms push 20 inches, yours are 16 if you are lucky.
My arms are 17.5 inches. Your arms are your strong point, which is why that's the only bodypart of yours that you ever show. I can admit your arms are about 1" more than mine, but there's a lot more to a physique than arm size. If you actually posted some full body shots that weren't cameraphone reflections in tanktops (like I have in the past), I would admit if you look bigger than me (as you claim you are 55 lbs bigger and 1 inch taller)
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But Bigknobs just as big as me Wes ::)
Only in his mind bro! LOL :)
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Whoa, no need to get all angry man. :-\
Nope, I'm turning my head to the side in the back shot, so obviously my head will take more area in the photo, that's all.
Example please? Which photos are you talking about? I posted two comparisons of us from the front.
lol come on man, "optical illusion" ::)
My arms are 17.5 inches. Your arms are your strong point, which is why that's the only bodypart of yours that you ever show. I can admit your arms are about 1" more than mine, but there's a lot more to a physique than arm size. If you actually posted some full body shots that weren't cameraphone reflections in tanktops (like I have in the past), I would admit if you look bigger than me (as you claim you are 55 lbs bigger and 1 inch taller)
just post something that even comes close to this besides that one strange pic, talk about weird angles and mirrors ::)
i'm just standing there
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Here's "Five foot ten" ::) bigknobs looking negligibly taller than dexter Jackson who is what....... 5' 7" ?
Bobs is standing as tall as he can while dex is leaning in, as well
who are you guys such delusional fucking liars?
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5'11 and 255 isn't natural, please don't treat us as idiots.
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Gym mirror reflections make you look bigger and more muscular fellas.
Groink are you pumped in the tanktop most-muscular camera pic that bob just posted?
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5'11 and 255 isn't natural, please don't treat us as idiots.
that's a question for another day...your "team-mate" is saying he's just as big as I am. Can you be objective for two seconds on this ?
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Gym mirror reflections make you look bigger and more muscular fellas.
Groink are you pumped in the tanktop most-muscular camera pic that bob just posted?
nope...that was a webcam shot, no gym involved.
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nope...that was a webcam shot, no gym involved.
I was refering to Bobs pic in regards to gym mirrors sorry , worded it wrong.,
so the webcam pic you dont have a pump ? Bob's has used gear also , i "think" he has been open with this.
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Here's "Five foot ten" ::) bigknobs looking negligibly taller than dexter Jackson who is what....... 5' 7" ?
who are you guys such delusional fucking liars?
*yawn* We've already had this discussion before, and I posted the pic of me with Ronnie Coleman where I am almost his height and he is 5'11" I can post it again if you'd like? There are also factors like shoe size to consider. The irony of you calling me "delusional" lmao - I'm one of the guys here who give you more benefit of the doubt, most getbiggers would chose you as being delusional, not me.
I'll probably see Disturbia soon as he said he'll be coming to my city on poker sometime soon, and he can vouch for my height/size. I have nothing to hide.
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that's a question for another day...your "team-mate" is saying he's just as big as I am. Can you be objective for two seconds on this ?
sorry I can't my obligations to TEAM Nasser with this issue I can't talk.
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I was refering to Bobs pic in regards to gym mirrors sorry , worded it wrong.,
so the webcam pic you dont have a pump ? Bob's has used gear also , i "think" he has been open with this.
I haven't even brought up his admitted gear use,
I was giving him a pass on that, because it obviously didn't do much :P
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Jesus, this gets better everyday.
- 257 pounds with abs
- 20 inch arms
- Close to 400 pound incline
- Admitted drug/alcohol abuser. Just recently started training"seriously" again
- Gained 20 pounds recently, from eating and training seriously
- All this, and COMPLETELY NATURAL!
All you guys who swing off Groinks nuts, need to read those points comprehensively and let me know if this individual sounds legit. Anyone else, and you would be eating them alive, but this guy gets a pass. Where is Dave when you need him.
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Jesus, this gets better everyday.
- 257 pounds with abs
- 20 inch arms
- Close to 400 pound incline
- Admitted drug/alcohol abuser. Just recently started training"seriously" again
- Gained 20 pounds recently, from eating and training seriously
- All this, and COMPLETELY NATURAL!
All you guys who swing off Groinks nuts, need to read those points comprehensively and let me know if this individual sounds legit. Anyone else, and you would be eating them alive, but this guy gets a pass. Where is Dave when you need him.
Obsess much...
TheLamePenisFlap ? :D :D
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Obsess much...
TheLamePenisFlap ? :D :D
You are full of shit, no one thinks you are special even if they think you are natural.
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Obsess much...
TheLamePenisFlap ? :D :D
Again, the wit of a two year old. I guess all those vikes and percs fried your brain. 315 for 10 on the incline, and just started training seriously again. Man you are full of yourself.
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You are full of shit, no one thinks you are special even if they think you are natural.
I really don't give a fuck what people think, I come here to have fun and stir shit up a little
I actually have no problem saying both Bigknobs and Shaerif Saladtosser have good builds and are serious lifters. The back and forth with the Nasser shit is fun to me.
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I really don't give a fuck what people think, I come here to have fun and stir shit up a little
I actually have no problem saying both Bigknobs and Shaerif Saladtosser have good builds and are serious lifters. The back and forth with the Nasser shit is fun to me.
You obviously do care, or you wouldnt lie.
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You obviously do care, or you wouldnt lie.
who's lying ?
I'm exactly what i say i am and have posted numerous pics, what more can I say?
I'm off to the gym right now actually....feeling sporty.
Have fun "owning" me by saying i'm "too big to be natural" ooooh the pain ::) ::)
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who's lying ?
I'm exactly what i say i am and have posted numerous pics, what more can I say?
I'm off to the gym right now actually....feeling sporty.
Have fun "owning" me by saying i'm "too big to be natural" ooooh the pain ::) ::)
Not trying to own you, just pointing out lies.
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Jesus, this gets better everyday.
- 257 pounds with abs
- 20 inch arms
- Close to 400 pound incline
- Admitted drug/alcohol abuser. Just recently started training"seriously" again
- Gained 20 pounds recently, from eating and training seriously
- All this, and COMPLETELY NATURAL!
All you guys who swing off Groinks nuts, need to read those points comprehensively and let me know if this individual sounds legit. Anyone else, and you would be eating them alive, but this guy gets a pass. Where is Dave when you need him.
I personally don't see the so-called lies. I've power cleaned close to 400 lbs naturally...granted at a BW of damn near 300, but still. Does that make ME a liar too? There are lots of guys on here who are f'n beasts naturally: Alex23, kiwi, SS, Man of Steel, Groink, just to name a few. In my experience of giving out "advice" over the years, I've found that way too many people predispose themselves to some "limit" in strength or size because of their genetics, but mostly it's a matter of their shitty attitude.
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AHHHHH Fuck
I drank a cup of coffee before hitting the gym, and now I feel a big poop coming on
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AHHHHH Fuck
I drank a cup of coffee before hitting the gym, and now I feel a big poop coming on
That would be the DBALL :D
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I personally don't see the so-called lies. I've power cleaned close to 400 lbs naturally...granted at a BW of damn near 300, but still. Does that make ME a liar too? There are lots of guys on here who are f'n beasts naturally: Alex23, kiwi, SS, Man of Steel, Groink, just to name a few. In my experience of giving out "advice" over the years, I've found that way too many people predispose themselves to some "limit" in strength or size because of their genetics, but mostly it's a matter of their shitty attitude.
Oh, I agree plenty of guys are naturally strong, no doubt there, BUT, when you add together the 257 with abs qoute, with his other claims, something doesn't add up. At the very best, Groink overexaggerates his claims. Meaning when he says he has abs, he means he has a somewhat flat stomach with the 1/2 of his two top abs showing. At the worst, he is a closeted juicer, who likes to claim natural. I'm sure Groink is a good guy who would be cool in real life, but when you make extraordinary claims, you should expect some ribbing. Everyone here should know that...............
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Oh, I agree plenty of guys are naturally strong, no doubt there, BUT, when you add together the 257 with abs qoute, with his other claims, something doesn't add up. At the very best, Groink overexaggerates his claims. Meaning when he says he has abs, he means he has a somewhat flat stomach with the 1/2 of his two top abs showing. At the worst, he is a closeted juicer, who likes to claim natural. I'm sure Groink is a good guy who would be cool in real life, but when you make extraordinary claims, you should expect some ribbing. Everyone here should know that...............
I'm a little better than that..... but I think I said "with abs" once when i was fucking with the Nassholes.
I don't have a six pack, never said i did.
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I'm a little better than that..... but I think I said "with abs" once when i was fucking with the Nassholes.
I don't have a six pack, never said i did.
I'm not a part of team Nasser, so don't get me confused. So I think even you see how a bold statement like that can be misconstrued. Juiced or not, you are a big dude, so props for that. Just don't come on here tommorrow with a 405 by 12 Incline with shredded glutes at 265, all while eating tofu and soy protein powder. 8)
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This guy aint got shit on Big Bobs... Bigbobs seems very forthcoming and honest..while Groink seems to be hiding the truth about his build... natural, sure I believe it... whats not to believe? Nothing crazy..lots of guys look like that... lets see his comp shots.
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This guy aint got shit on Big Bobs... Bigbobs seems very forthcoming and honest..while Groink seems to be hiding the truth about his build... natural, sure I believe it... whats not to believe? Nothing crazy..lots of guys look like that... lets see his comp shots.
Was he honest about his gear use or did he try to be vague and cover up that little detail?
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as usual looking good groink...
good shaped muscles
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That's not superstarbillygraham.
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LOL. That guy looks like he should be terrorizing the citizens of Tokyo. ;D
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LOL. That guy looks like he should be terrorizing the citizens of Tokyo. ;D
He has done,but the pic is too large memory-wise to put on here
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I personally don't see the so-called lies. I've power cleaned close to 400 lbs naturally...granted at a BW of damn near 300, but still. Does that make ME a liar too? There are lots of guys on here who are f'n beasts naturally: Alex23, kiwi, SS, Man of Steel, Groink, just to name a few. In my experience of giving out "advice" over the years, I've found that way too many people predispose themselves to some "limit" in strength or size because of their genetics, but mostly it's a matter of their shitty attitude.
Legendary Heckler laying down the truth once again..
Add Jason Pegg at 320 squatted close to 900lb, naturally as well.
The lesser men don't get it and it makes them feel better thinking it's possible to be us clean.
Groink you're plowing tits left and right in this thread. Good Job brother..
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Legendary Heckler laying down the truth once again..
Add Jason Pegg at 320 squatted close to 900lb, naturally as well.
The lesser men don't get it and it makes them feel better thinking it's possible to be us clean.
Groink you're plowing tits left and right in this thread. Good Job brother..
Alex you have the biggest tits on Getbig,well done
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I'm fckn ahl naturall
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Legendary Heckler laying down the truth once again..
Add Jason Pegg at 320 squatted close to 900lb, naturally as well.
The lesser men don't get it and it makes them feel better thinking it's possible to be us clean.
Groink you're plowing tits left and right in this thread. Good Job brother..
Groink is in a different league to you Alex
no offence :)
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Legendary Heckler laying down the truth once again..
Add Jason Pegg at 320 squatted close to 900lb, naturally as well.
The lesser men don't get it and it makes them feel better thinking it's possible to be us clean.
Groink you're plowing tits left and right in this thread. Good Job brother..
Ha, the only thing I think you are on is estrogen if anything. Puffiest guy on GB, no doubt. Either estrogen
or krispy kream. Don't fatter yourself big boy.
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Ha, the only thing I think you are on is estrogen if anything. Puffiest guy on GB, no doubt. Either estrogen
or krispy kream. Don't fatter yourself big boy.
Best,and most truthful,insult ever on Getbig
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Groink is in a different league to you Alex
no offence :)
You aren't exactly small yourself, stud muffin
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I'm fckn ahl naturall
is this one of your "clients" spike ?
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You aren't exactly small yourself, stud muffin
Neither are you stud! Kiwiol = huge bastard
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You aren't exactly small yourself, stud muffin
:-* no homo
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*Note to self: PM a Hallmark E card featuring a rose colored heart, Nasser's most muscular pic and Facebook link to Donny and bigmc on Valentines day
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*Note to self: PM a Hallmark E card featuring a rose colored heart, Nasser's most muscular pic and Facebook link to Donny and bigmc on Valentines day
Hahaha by the thong of Nassoil please don't!!
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I personally don't see the so-called lies. I've power cleaned close to 400 lbs naturally...granted at a BW of damn near 300, but still. Does that make ME a liar too? There are lots of guys on here who are f'n beasts naturally: Alex23, kiwi, SS, Man of Steel, Groink, just to name a few. In my experience of giving out "advice" over the years, I've found that way too many people predispose themselves to some "limit" in strength or size because of their genetics, but mostly it's a matter of their shitty attitude.
only people that know if they are naturals are the people themselves, a lot of people claim natural, doesn't mean they are.
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Ha, the only thing I think you are on is estrogen if anything. Puffiest guy on GB, no doubt. Either estrogen
or krispy kream. Don't fatter yourself big boy.
back the fuck off alex dude, he is our King of Getbig, so respect him.
He's quite the handsome lady.
STFU you wish you were as handsome as he was.
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only people that know if they are naturals are the people themselves, a lot of people claim natural, doesn't mean they are.
And it doesn't mean they take steroids just because some douche on the net says so, either ;)
PS yes Alex is King
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Calm down nancy you'll make snasser jealous.
I think refering to jtsalami as Nancy may in fact excite the little queef :-\