List of guys who are "ON"......

[Tapeworm]

Never used actually....just able to put on muscle and fat quickly....completely endomorphic in that respect.  I have a lot of natural strength.  Many men in my family are strong.  In my prime I've literally worked out until bones and cartilage broke or gave out....not the smartest play, but live and learn.  Although all those years of hard pressing, rowing, squating and curling built me up naturally.  I have wanted to use MANY times, but never did...talked myself out of it.  I have nothing against those that use...it's a choice.  I don't encourage or discourage it.  If you want to compete you'll need to use.....I don't want to compete in bb or pl.....I'm fine being the big guy on the cereal aisle at the local grocery store.  

Put down the Cookie Crunch, big man.

[Man of Steel]

That's the thing. there ARE big, strong dudes in this world. People act like we are the fucking white whale or something.

i know dudes just like you, thick as a fucking brick and strong as an ox...no steroids needed.

Exactly....I've known some big boys that have never used and others that have....some are predisposed to size and strength and others need some help.  I'm sure if I used I'd get bigger and stronger, but what's the point now LOL?  I determined a long time ago that since I could already outlift and in some cases outsize a number of users in the areas I trained at I went without the extra edge.  All this you can't bench 400 or squat 500 without drug assistance just isn't true....it'll take you longer. 

[YoungBlood]

He was on in the picture, period.

You know how I know? Like this:

And only using back in the 70s? LOL

I also said "to my recollection." As well, I didn't say I knew the exact period of time he used. So for all I know he could have been on till 2004 or whenever.
My point, is that if Tim said he was clean in that pic, I'll believe him. Because he is forthcoming about his past use. But again, just just doesn't broadcast it across the airwaves like many others do. But I don't think he's lying either...

...either way, I'm not staying awake at night if I were to be right or wrong.

[Man of Steel]

did you do olympic lifting?

For a VERY short time (under 2 weeks) someone tried to coach me....I didn't care for it.

[Man of Steel]

Put down the Cookie Crunch, big man.

I'm more of a Rice Chex, Rice Krispies, Frosted Flakes kinda guy.

[Palpatine Q]

Honest question - what were the circumstances behind that one "normal" picture that was posted a few years ago?  Based on that picture I find it very believable that you are natural  Not trying to hate on you here, but this is getbig.

This one?

 I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things?  

I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.

[Van_Bilderass]

I also said "to my recollection." As well, I didn't say I knew the exact period of time he used. So for all I know he could have been on till 2004 or whenever.
My point, is that if Tim said he was clean in that pic, I'll believe him. Because he is forthcoming about his past use. But again, just just doesn't broadcast it across the airwaves like many others do. But I don't think he's lying either...

...either way, I'm not staying awake at night if I were to be right or wrong.

Believe me, it's no big deal to me either. I just don't understand the need to bullshit. Like, what for? 

[Man of Steel]

This one?

 I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things? 

I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.

hunky, muscle bastard right there.

[emn1964]

This one?

 I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things?  

I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.

nice couch     sorry, it was the only thing i could think of...i'll try to do better next time.

[bigbobs]

This one?

 I was sitting on the couch and my wife at the time took a picture of me....are there things?  

I was pretty lean there at about 225-230....that's 5 years ago.

Thanks for posting the first clear picture

So here you are 225-230 and "pretty lean"



And here you are 230 as you posted today:



Now do you see my point as to why fuzzy pictures are not as credible as real/clear pictures, or how they can give different impressions of size?  

[YoungBlood]

Believe me, it's no big deal to me either. I just don't understand the need to bullshit. Like, what for?  

Tim has always been a straight up guy to me. So I don't think he is bullshitting. Just my opinion and if I'm wrong, oh fuckin' well.
I don't lie about anything I lift, or have done. Either now or then. And my weights are nowhere near what some claim. Does that mean they're lying? Maybe. But I've seen plenty of guys that lift X amount of weight and I don't believe they're natural by any means. One of them is a natural "guru" by some standards.

[Palpatine Q]

Thanks for posting the first clear picture

So here you are 225-230 and "pretty lean"



And here you are 230 as you posted today:



Now do you see my point as to why fuzzy pictures are not as credible as real/clear pictures, or how they can give different impressions of size?  

Actually.....I'm probably heavier than 230 in the bottom pic, it's two years later and i had put on more size.

Sorry but i don't keep a running log on how much i weighed the day a picture was taken, i was taking a guess.  

Also....i'm covered to my elbows in the first pic, and it a completely different photograph. How can you assume anything?

[Go 4 It]

How can you say someone is juicing by looking at a pic of them in a tanktop?? (unless it's completely obvious)

I've been of accused of being "on" as well on various occasions...It doesn't bother me as much as it used to.

[Man of Steel]

Actually.....I'm probably heavier than 230 in the bottom pic, it's two years later and i had put on more size.

Sorry but i don't keep a running log on how much i weighed the day a picture was taken, i was taking a guess.  

Also....i'm covered to my elbows in the first pic, and it a completely different photograph. How can you assume anything?

Pictures capture things differently.  Me, I wear clothes that fit or that are sometimes oversized and comfortable so I just look blocky.  If I put on something more form fitting things pop more.  Sit down, stand up, twist a bit, turn to the side it all can look a little different.

Most Getbiggers are not juiced to gills bbs that look enormous and muscular in every article of clothing or picture position LOL.

[Man of Steel]

How can you say someone is juicing by looking at a pic of them in a tanktop?? (unless it's completely obvious)

I've been of accused of being "on" as well on various occasions...It doesn't bother me as much as it used to.

For most naturals accused of using it's a compliment....I've never seen anyone say, "You take that back!"

[Palpatine Q]

Here is a chronology to the best of my memory

1 : 2004 bout 220 pretty lean

2 : 2006 bout 235

3 : 2008 mid 240's

4 : 3 weeks ago  255.... stopped beating myself up with drugs and alcohol november 2008 and had a nice growth spurt for the last year

[Bobby]

For most naturals accused of using it's a compliment....I've never seen anyone say, "You take that back!"

exactly!

i am teh upset if ppl don't think im juicing

[Man of Steel]

Here is a chronology to the best of my memory

1 : 2004 bout 220 pretty lean

2 : 2006 bout 235

3 : 2008 mid 240's

4 : 3 weeks ago  255.... stopped beating myself up with drugs and alcohol november 2008 and had a nice growth spurt for the last year

Those pics are pretty telling......awesome, sexy gains!!

[Palpatine Q]

Those pics are pretty telling......awesome, sexy gains!!

You should SEE my junk...... (way homo)

[Man of Steel]

exactly!

i am teh upset if ppl don't think im juicing

Everyone wants validation for their gym efforts....especially from the ladies.

[Go 4 It]

For most naturals accussed of using it's a compliment....I've never seen anyone say, "You take that back!"

Haha..nah, I used to get real defensive about it...I get it all the time, especially at work from random drunken dudes...I've learned it's just not worth getting all defensive about it and try explaining to them, how much I eat, how much I work out, how dedicated I am bla bla bla.....I'm over it..

[Palpatine Q]

Those pics are pretty telling......awesome, sexy gains!!

You should SEE my junk...... (way homo)

[Man of Steel]

Haha..nah, I used to get real defensive about it...I get it all the time, especially at work from random drunken dudes...I've learned it's just not worth getting all defensive about it and try explaining to them, how much I eat, how much I work out, how dedicated I am bla bla bla.....I'm over it..

I used to get razed a little bit about using and I'd finally just said, "yes, I use." Immediately they'd respond, "Why?"  So I'd say, "I use because I'm scared if I don't I'd look like you."

[Go 4 It]

I used to get razed a little bit about using and I'd finally just said, "yes, I use." Immediately they'd respond, "Why?"  So I'd say, "I use because I'm scared if I don't I'd look like you."

Lol..pretty funny response, but I would never admit to juicing unless I was, if I was I would openly admit it, and feel completely fine about it, I would never try to be the dude who is "on" yet trying to fool everyone, I hate fake people. I used to get shit from the bouncers all the time too, until I worked there for a while, and made steady progress year after year (little leaner in the summer, little bigger in the winter), while they are big for awhile then fat and smaller for awhile, then bigger again..while I just consistantly make small progress..they knew I was clean..either that or I've been "on" for 4 years straight..

[Palpatine Q]

Lol..pretty funny response, but I would never admit to juicing unless I was, if I was I would openly admit it, and feel completely fine about it, I would never try to be the dude who is "on" yet trying to fool everyone, I hate fake people. I used to get shit from the bouncers all the time too, until I worked there for a while, and made steady progress year after year (little leaner in the summer, little bigger in the winter), while they are big for awhile then fat and smaller for awhile, then bigger again..while I just consistantly make small progress..they knew I was clean..either that or I've been "on" for 4 years straight..

I would think you were on something. you have a great build, owns mine...... if i didn't catch so much shit about it myself