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Title: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: tonymctones on November 09, 2009, 09:23:30 PM
All Ive heard about is good muslims this and good muslims that since the ft. hood incident.

My question is where are these good muslims?

I understand that there are good muslims but where is the public condemnation of this massacre by muslims?

Where is the public outcry of how this isnt what the koran teaches etc. by the "good" muslims?

While Im sure there are tons of good muslims out there as of right now all I see are muslims period.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: Fury on November 09, 2009, 09:29:17 PM
All Ive heard about is good muslims this and good muslims that since the ft. hood incident.

My question is where are these good muslims?

I understand that there are good muslims but where is the public condemnation of this massacre by muslims?

Where is the public outcry of how this isnt what the koran teaches etc. by the "good" muslims?

While Im sure there are tons of good muslims out there as of right now all I see are muslims period.

This is why extremism will continue to exist. The good Muslims consistently turn a blind eye to any attacks carried about by the fundamentalists. The only time they speak up is when something negative happens to Muslims. Had it been a white guy killing 13 year Muslims, we would have surely heard from them. Until they sack up and start speaking out against terrorism, it will continue to be a problem. They need to grow a pair.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 09, 2009, 09:30:28 PM
the only shit ive seen about muslims in this situation so far is how they are afraid of backlash  ::) say something about it let the public know youre against shit like that.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 09, 2009, 09:34:35 PM
This is why extremism will continue to exist. The good Muslims consistently turn a blind eye to any attacks carried about by the fundamentalists. The only time they speak up is when something negative happens to Muslims. Had it been a white guy killing 13 year Muslims, we would have surely heard from them. Until they sack up and start speaking out against terrorism, it will continue to be a problem. They need to grow a pair.
This is exactly fuking right...
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: 24KT on November 09, 2009, 09:39:40 PM
the only shit ive seen about muslims in this situation so far is how they are afraid of backlash  ::) say something about it let the public know youre against shit like that.

LOL... Oh ya... stick your head out so some amped up vigilante sniper with more ammo than brains can pick it off.

Like any marginalized groups... there are those speaking out, ...and there are those keeping a low profile.
You gotta understand, ...many of these guys are fighting a defensive war on two fronts.
On the one hand, they have to protect themselves from the extremist nutbags who disaprove of their lack of extremism, ...and they have to protect themselves from the hot head vigilantes who want to hurt them just because they are muslims.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: 24KT on November 09, 2009, 09:42:22 PM
This is why extremism will continue to exist. The good Muslims consistently turn a blind eye to any attacks carried about by the fundamentalists. The only time they speak up is when something negative happens to Muslims. Had it been a white guy killing 13 year Muslims, we would have surely heard from them. Until they sack up and start speaking out against terrorism, it will continue to be a problem. They need to grow a pair.

I won't attempt to diminish or discredit your perspective.
I will only say we obviously live in two different countries.  :'(
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: 24KT on November 09, 2009, 09:48:02 PM
People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 09, 2009, 10:06:35 PM
LOL... Oh ya... stick your head out so some amped up vigilante sniper with more ammo than brains can pick it off.

Like any marginalized groups... there are those speaking out, ...and there are those keeping a low profile.
You gotta understand, ...many of these guys are fighting a defensive war on two fronts.
On the one hand, they have to protect themselves from the extremist nutbags who disaprove of their lack of extremism, ...and they have to protect themselves from the hot head vigilantes who want to hurt them just because they are muslims.
Im not going to even address the first statement other than this  ::)

as for the rest i understand ive asked for examples though and havent been given any...

THEY AND YOU need to understand that if you do one then you will help both situations

you really think ppl dont know the majority of muslims are muslim?  ::) what they need to do is be proactive about the situation and deal with it instead of closing there eyes and hoping it goes away...
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: tonymctones on November 09, 2009, 10:10:13 PM
People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.
jag the vast majority of ppl are condemning this action but the one voice that is painfully quite is the muslim community.

This was commited in the name of the muslim religion, dont act like this had nothing to do with his religion.  ::)

is this what islam preaches? from what I can tell it might be b/c the muslim community hasnt come out against it.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: Fury on November 09, 2009, 11:08:19 PM
People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.

This isn't a societal problem. These attacks ARE condemned by everyone and their mother in civilized society. However, in Muslim society, they aren't. "Moderate" Muslims will not speak up against the extremists and that's why they've pretty much had free reign to run wild across the Middle East and western Asia killing and blowing up whoever the fuck they want. Until these so-called moderates stand up and fight back against this supposed "bad" islam, it will continue.

This guy was in contact with Anwar al-Awlaki, a guy who was a "moderate" after 9/11 until he left the country. Then he ended up in Yemen where he started preaching violence against Americans and has been in contact with a number of terrorists.

One of the wonderful things al-Awlaki had to say about Nidal was “The only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the U.S. Army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.”

Get the fuck out of here your "societal" bullshit. This is a fucking Muslim problem. It's ridiculous that this religion is completely indemnified by apologists like you. These guys could detonate a nuke in London, kill 500,000 people and you would find a way to justify it and blame it on the English.  ::)
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: Skip8282 on November 10, 2009, 01:51:04 AM
LOL... Oh ya... stick your head out so some amped up vigilante sniper with more ammo than brains can pick it off.


Cowards.

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...and they have to protect themselves from the hot head vigilantes who want to hurt them just because they are muslims.


Proof of all these vigilantes?  Or just more bullshit speculation?
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: 24KT on November 10, 2009, 02:54:17 AM
Im not going to even address the first statement other than this  ::)

as for the rest i understand ive asked for examples though and havent been given any...

THEY AND YOU need to understand that if you do one then you will help both situations

you really think ppl dont know the majority of muslims are muslim?  ::) what they need to do is be proactive about the situation and deal with it instead of closing there eyes and hoping it goes away...

I've both seen and heard plenty of muslim condemnation... even on American news.
If you guys are neither seeing it nor hearing it, it's because you're either watching FOXNews,
...or you're purposely and willfully being blind to it.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: 240 is Back on November 10, 2009, 03:00:25 AM
If an American soldier happens to read a Koran each night instead of a Bible - after spending 16 hours dodging bullets to help preserve our freedom and way of life - I could care less.

Anyone who isn't serving, who wants to kick them out of their role of defending our country, should sign the fck up and take their spot in the battlefield and quit being an armchair warrior.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: ksa_triceps on November 10, 2009, 03:13:17 AM
 ::)

We are not only stressing our concern about what is happening, but we are in a state of war on terrorism.

Why would you expect a Muslim to come on an American news channel and condemn these acts? I've never seen an American do that on our local news channels?, but from America's act i do understand that they are not so fond with the situation.

Your media is controlled by who? You expect them to let you know both sides of the story? Do some research and you'll know what I'm talking about.

I can link you to thousands of leaders/elitists/commoners talking about the situation. But you wouldn't understand Arabic.

Hint: Google Saudi's war on terrorism.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2009, 04:44:16 AM
People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.

Yeah, it only happens that every society where there are a lot of muslims this garbage happens to occur with a greater frequency than anywhere else. 

And yes, JAGASS, it is a "muslim crime". 
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 10, 2009, 05:02:52 AM
Totally agree. 
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 10, 2009, 07:48:38 AM
If an American soldier happens to read a Koran each night instead of a Bible - after spending 16 hours dodging bullets to help preserve our freedom and way of life - I could care less.

Anyone who isn't serving, who wants to kick them out of their role of defending our country, should sign the fck up and take their spot in the battlefield and quit being an armchair warrior.
please keep your statements to the topic of this thread nobody said word one about not letting muslims serve in the army in this thread...
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 10, 2009, 07:56:04 AM
I've both seen and heard plenty of muslim condemnation... even on American news.
If you guys are neither seeing it nor hearing it, it's because you're either watching FOXNews,
...or you're purposely and willfully being blind to it.
again jag i hardly get time to watch the news anymore except in the evenings, get off the fox news kick  ::) ok youre starting to sound like blacken or mons...
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 10, 2009, 08:00:20 AM
::)

We are not only stressing our concern about what is happening, but we are in a state of war on terrorism.

Why would you expect a Muslim to come on an American news channel and condemn these acts? I've never seen an American do that on our local news channels?, but from America's act i do understand that they are not so fond with the situation.

Your media is controlled by who? You expect them to let you know both sides of the story? Do some research and you'll know what I'm talking about.

I can link you to thousands of leaders/elitists/commoners talking about the situation. But you wouldn't understand Arabic.

Hint: Google Saudi's war on terrorism.
what exactly are you guys doing on your war on terrorism?

Where did i ever say that muslims from other countries need to appear on American TV?  ::)

FACT is the muslim voice is not LOUD AND APPARENT on this issue
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ksa_triceps on November 11, 2009, 07:20:06 AM
what exactly are you guys doing on your war on terrorism?

Where did i ever say that muslims from other countries need to appear on American TV?  ::)

FACT is the muslim voice is not LOUD AND APPARENT on this issue

We are in a state of war with terrorism. Read how many have been killed till this moment.

You people act like the only victim when we have suffered 980390x the casualties. And when Saudi Arabia -the most Islamic country in the world by far- is killing them at sight and offering rewards in millions to anyone that "hints" on their whereabouts. 

Then how is it that you blame Islam for radicalizing them? Beats my mind!

If you don't know what's happening then take the time and effort to do so.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 11, 2009, 07:31:05 AM
We are in a state of war with terrorism. Read how many have been killed till this moment.

You people act like the only victim when we have suffered 980390x the casualties. And when Saudi Arabia -the most Islamic country in the world by far- is killing them at sight and offering rewards in millions to anyone that "hints" on their whereabouts. 

Then how is it that you blame Islam for radicalizing them? Beats my mind!

If you don't know what's happening then take the time and effort to do so.
first of all where did I blame Islam for radicalizing them?

youre not in this country and while things maybe different on your side of the world the muslim community doesnt publicly condemn this actions like they should here in america.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: BM OUT on November 11, 2009, 08:27:56 AM
When has there EVER been backlas against Muslims in this country.There was ZERO backlash after 911.There SHOULD be backlash but there wont be.You saw more backlash by blacks over the Rodney King case then EVER will by Americans towards Muslims.More left wing media crap hoping the government will take more liberty from us.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: Fury on November 11, 2009, 11:04:18 AM
We are in a state of war with terrorism. Read how many have been killed till this moment.

You people act like the only victim when we have suffered 980390x the casualties. And when Saudi Arabia -the most Islamic country in the world by far- is killing them at sight and offering rewards in millions to anyone that "hints" on their whereabouts.  

Then how is it that you blame Islam for radicalizing them? Beats my mind!

If you don't know what's happening then take the time and effort to do so.

We can thank the Saudis (the biggest funders of terrorism in the world) for the bullshit that is Wahabbism. About time they started taking responsibility for the abomination they created.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: 24KT on November 11, 2009, 08:09:17 PM
again jag i hardly get time to watch the news anymore except in the evenings, get off the fox news kick  ::) ok youre starting to sound like blacken or mons...

and you're beginning to sound like 333386. How can you type and keep a straight face?
how can you say there is no condemnation on the news when you don't even watch the news. zip it!
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: 240 is Back on November 11, 2009, 08:14:55 PM
When has there EVER been backlas against Muslims in this country.There was ZERO backlash after 911

There were over 1700 documented cases of violent acts classified as muslim backlash in the year following 9/11. 

These are from police departments.  http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa091401a.htm


Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: 24KT on November 11, 2009, 08:15:59 PM
When has there EVER been backlas against Muslims in this country.There was ZERO backlash after 911.There SHOULD be backlash but there wont be.You saw more backlash by blacks over the Rodney King case then EVER will by Americans towards Muslims.More left wing media crap hoping the government will take more liberty from us.

I suppose getting gunned down at a gas station while filling your tank for simply being muslim doesn't count as backlash huh? Or getting kicked off an airplane despite being a member of the US secret service simply for being dark skinned and muslim looking isn't backlash huh? I suppose having to hear death threats against your life simply for being muslim isn't backlash in your eyes either huh?

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=muslim+backlash+post+911&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=muslim+backlash+post+911&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=)
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 11, 2009, 08:40:17 PM
and you're beginning to sound like 333386. How can you type and keep a straight face?
how can you say there is no condemnation on the news when you don't even watch the news. zip it!
just b/c i dont watch tv all day doesnt mean i dont get to see the news, I also have the internet and see the big news clearing houses and have not seen one condemnation of this by muslims on those websites...

Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: 24KT on November 12, 2009, 12:35:42 AM
just b/c i dont watch tv all day doesnt mean i dont get to see the news, I also have the internet and see the big news clearing houses and have not seen one condemnation of this by muslims on those websites...


Then you're either blind or need to expand your news venues.  :-\
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: drkaje on November 12, 2009, 06:26:21 AM
Skipped ahead but moderates only true fear probably backlash from extremists.

Extremists will do stuff to them and their families.

All we'll do is post about it on-line.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 09:44:04 AM
All Ive heard about is good muslims this and good muslims that since the ft. hood incident.
My question is where are these good muslims?

i can only speak for my family...most "good" muslims are the upper class....most terrorists are from poor shit families

when ws the last time ya saw the christian social elite take to the streets to out cry anything ?  :-\

dont hold your breath...for example :my dads on the verge of losing a huge bundle in the real estate market...terrorising cu nt muslims are the last thing on his mind...

i say since he(major cu nt) a murdering muslim...behead the bastard

why is he bing STILL called "major" anyways???
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 09:47:01 AM
People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem".

IT IS
a muslim problem Judi...but..culturally.. the upper class muslims are too used to sitting on their asses...

me...i'm an athiest...fuck all you god believers...i think ALL you god believing fuckers are terrorists...christians. .jews..muslims..whateva. ..its belief in god that causes these problems..

keep fucking fighting over whose god is the best imaginairy friend (fiend)

post not directed at you of course...

Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 09:57:08 AM
i can only speak for my family...most "good" muslims are the upper class....most terrorists are from poor shit families

when ws the last time ya saw the christian social elite take to the streets to out cry anything ?  :-\

dont hold your breath...for example :my dads on the verge of losing a huge bundle in the real estate market...terrorising cu nt muslims are the last thing on his mind...

i say since he(major cu nt) a murdering muslim...behead the bastard

why is he bing STILL called "major" anyways???
I agree but when was the last time someone went out in the name of christianity and killed ppl? doesnt happen nearly as often and isnt nearly the problem as muslim extremist i think you would agree.

Im not saying there arent muslims out there condemning this but what Im saying is its not prevalent in the public eye. The muslim community needs to go OUT OF THEIR WAY to condemn this bull shit and they arent I think you would agree.

He will probably be called a major until he is court marshaled and killed.  :-X
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 09:58:47 AM

IT IS
a muslim problem Judi...but..culturally.. the upper class muslims are too used to sitting on their asses...

me...i'm an athiest...fuck all you god believers...i think ALL you god believing fuckers are terrorists...christians. .jews..muslims..whateva. ..its belief in god that causes these problems..

keep fucking fighting over whose god is the best imaginairy friend (fiend)

post not directed at you of course...
where do you get your morals from protein just curious?
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 10:04:32 AM
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I agree but when was the last time someone went out in the name of christianity and killed ppl? doesnt happen nearly as often and isnt nearly the problem as muslim extremist i think you would agree.
 i KNOW man....i agree..it is a friggin problem...but dont expect muslims to out cry this...even if they agree with you you wont hear a public out cry.....WHY?? i dunno... :-\
Quote
Im not saying there arent muslims out there condemning this but what Im saying is its not prevalent in the public eye. The muslim community needs to go OUT OF THEIR WAY to condemn this bull shit and they arent I think you would agree.
wooooont happen....at least the muslims i know...go to friday prayer...do the 30 day fast...BUT they dont pray 5 times a day and go clubbing every friday..sooo :-\   besides...i have seen a trend where CONVERTED muslims seem to be more extremist than people that were born muslims...i mean in pakistan (karachi) we let the extremists be loud..BUT THATS IT....GOD HELP EM (or lack there of) if they actually tried this crap in karachi...their family and them would be dead the next day...BUT in this country...YOU...YOU ..yes i'm BLAMING YOU self loathing liberal white people you did this to yourselves...SO DONT FUCKING COMPLAIN..YOU allowed it... >:(I DID NOT FUCKING MOVE TO AMERICA TO SEE IT TURN INTO A MULTICULTURAL POLITICALLY CORRECT FUCKFEST


Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 10:06:17 AM
where do you get your morals from protein just curious?
i dont need religion to tell me whats right and wrong...

i'm plenty smart..PERIOD....

its called darwanism..and an evolution towards a smarter being...

done
i'm a good person NOt cause i fear hell or god....or expect a reward (heaven etc..)

i'm good without expecting a reward after i die  ;)
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 10:08:23 AM
 i KNOW man....i agree..it is a friggin problem...but dont expect muslims to out cry this...even if they agree with you you wont hear a public out cry.....WHY?? i dunno... :-\ wooooont happen....at least the muslims i know...go to friday prayer...do the 30 day fast...BUT they dont pray 5 times a day and go clubbing every friday..sooo :-\   besides...i have seen a trend where CONVERTED muslims seem to be more extremist than people that were born muslims...i mean in pakistan (karachi) we let the extremists be loud..BUT THATS IT....GOD HELP EM (or lack there of) if they actually tried this crap in karachi...their family and them would be dead the next day...BUT in this country...YOU...YOU ..yes i'm BLAMING YOU self loathing liberal white people all it...SO DONT FUCKING COMPLAIN..YOU allowed it... >:(I DID NOT FUCKING MOVE TO AMERICA TO SEE IT TURN INTO A MULTICULTURAL POLITICALLY CORRECT FUCKFEST
LOL whoa buddy im as against political correctness as you are it leads to this bull shit, gay marriage  ::), reverend wright etc...

I agree with you these fucktards should be made examples of and not the politically correct kind of examples
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 10:10:47 AM
i dont need religion to tell me whats right and wrong...

i'm plenty smart..PERIOD....

its called darwanism..and an evolution towards a smarter being...

done
i'm a good person NOt cause i fear hell or god....or expect a reward (heaven etc..)

i'm good without expecting a reward after i die  ;)
your hatred for religion is quite apparent but you didnt answer my question

Darwinism doesnt mean we are becoming smarter necessarily a stupider being may be better suited for the environment and therefore survive...

again where do you get your morals from? If its just b/c you think you are then a mass murderer by that logic is just as good as you...

so again where do you get your morals from?
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 10:20:30 AM
LOL whoa buddy im as against political correctness as you are it leads to this bull shit, gay marriage  ::), reverend wright etc...
I agree with you these fucktards should be made examples of and not the politically correct kind of examples
well dood..if you r white...what the hell do you want me to say....YOU are the majority...hense YOU elected this bastard... >:(  (i can call him a bastard since i'm not white...you'd be seen as racist :-\ )
this idiot thinks thats this tragedy is (and i quote) incomprehensible ???  WTF....its a cut and dry case...a muslim terrorist...TRY HIM AS one >:(
i'm blaming self loathing white people for fucking this country up.....keep trying to deny it..but sorry..your race built this great country...and not YOu are hell bend on destroying it >:(  I'LL SAY THIS ONCE....STOP FUCKING APOLOGIZING TO BLACKS AND BROWNS AND SHIT...your anscestors built a good thing..dont destroy it....hell i BELIEVE ITS A GOOD THING....IF I WANTED TO CHANGE IT....I WOULDA STAYED IN MY OWN GAWDDAMN COUNTRY..


Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 10:22:26 AM


Darwinism doesnt mean we are becoming smarter necessarily a stupider being may be better suited for the environment and therefore survive...


stop  with the pious k...i wont bother with it...

you DO have a point.....but it will require massive amounts of typing for me to refute it....so...FINE!....i wont
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 12, 2009, 10:42:52 AM
stop  with the pious k...i wont bother with it...

you DO have a point.....but it will require massive amounts of typing for me to refute it....so...FINE!....i wont

Look, whether this guy was spouting islamic extremism, buddhist, hindu, or any crazy shit like is being reported, coupled with the fact that he was a doctor and treating returning soldiers for PTSD, the Army really screwed up in not dealing with this nut. 

They had their notice to deal with this guy and didnt do squat.  Of course I blame the killer first and foremost, but the Army really seems to have dropped the ball here. 
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 11:01:51 AM
well dood..if you r white...what the hell do you want me to say....YOU are the majority...hense YOU elected this bastard... >:(  (i can call him a bastard since i'm not white...you'd be seen as racist :-\ )
this idiot thinks thats this tragedy is (and i quote) incomprehensible ???  WTF....its a cut and dry case...a muslim terrorist...TRY HIM AS one >:(
i'm blaming self loathing white people for fucking this country up.....keep trying to deny it..but sorry..your race built this great country...and not YOu are hell bend on destroying it >:(  I'LL SAY THIS ONCE....STOP FUCKING APOLOGIZING TO BLACKS AND BROWNS AND SHIT...your anscestors built a good thing..dont destroy it....hell i BELIEVE ITS A GOOD THING....IF I WANTED TO CHANGE IT....I WOULDA STAYED IN MY OWN GAWDDAMN COUNTRY..
Im half white/half japanese and even if I was in the majority doesnt mean that majority elected this guy  ::) simply that the majority of ppl voting elected this guy.

Race has nothing to do with this I dont know where you get off bringing that into it, its a mind set and that mind set is used but many ppl your friends as well...the pc bullshit extends to muslims as well

you should come in here more protein b/c you would see that im not for the PC bullshit as alot of other posters in here arent as well.
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 11:02:38 AM
stop  with the pious k...i wont bother with it...

you DO have a point.....but it will require massive amounts of typing for me to refute it....so...FINE!....i wont
you were the one that brought it up I was just correcting you

you still didnt answer my question, where do you get your morals from?
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 12, 2009, 11:06:21 AM
you were the one that brought it up I was just correcting you

you still didnt answer my question, where do you get your morals from?

Tony - you know whats crazy?

The MSM is still debating this crap!  Can you imagine if during WW2 they caught a Japanese American soldier reaching out to Tojo, yamamaoto or Hirohito? 

Or an Italian american soldier reaching out to Mussolini?

WTF has happened in this country.  If Italy attacked the USA, I would be the first one to pull the trigger without a flinch.         
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:06:46 AM
Look, whether this guy was spouting islamic extremism, buddhist, hindu, or any crazy shit like is being reported, coupled with the fact that he was a doctor and treating returning soldiers for PTSD, the Army really screwed up in not dealing with this nut. 

They had their notice to deal with this guy and didnt do squat.  Of course I blame the killer first and foremost, but the Army really seems to have dropped the ball here. 


ok good point..BUT....its a small part of a bigger picture....."the anti white/western movement"

dont u see it mang?
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 11:08:03 AM
Tony - you know whats crazy?

The MSM is still debating this crap!  Can you imagine if during WW2 they caught a Japanese American soldier reaching out to Tojo, yamamaoto or Hirohito? 

Or an Italian american soldier reaching out to Mussolini?

WTF has happened in this country.  If Italy attacked the USA, I would be the first one to pull the trigger without a flinch.         
They would have been lynched

I agree, the whole PC/uber liberal movement has fucked this country.

Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:08:06 AM


you still didnt answer my question, where do you get your morals from?

from my MUSLIM parents...

happy? :-\
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:09:55 AM
Im half white/half japanese and even if I was in the majority doesnt mean that majority elected this guy  ::) simply that the majority of ppl voting elected this guy.


hey i didn't like bush either....his an almost RHINO (repb in name only)

man o man i regret not voting for cheny >:(
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 11:12:29 AM
from my MUSLIM parents...

happy? :-\
not really, b/c if thats the case than your morals are indeed based in religion...so I really dont understand the hatred as you believe yourself to be a good person in abiding by those morals.  ???


Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:15:59 AM
not really, b/c if thats the case than your morals are indeed based in religion...so I really dont understand the hatred as you believe yourself to be a good person in abiding by those morals.  ???

see//i didn't wanna go there....

you r kinda insulting my intelligence here....i just went ahead and gave you the answer you were fishing for  :-\
and what choice do i have left....if you believe in god..in my mind you r no better than these extremist muslim fucks...

sooo....what do you want me to say....as long as you believe in god...you r a dumbfuck..there ..i said it...

now..if you get defensive...well....that s no more different than a muslim getting dedensive, from my prespective...so there :-\   (the general theme being...belief in god...soooo..if you believe in god...you r just as bad as the muslim extremists..and fuck you feeling defensive....i dont give a shit)
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 12, 2009, 11:20:26 AM
hey i didn't like bush either....his an almost RHINO (repb in name only)

man o man i regret not voting for cheny >:(

Look, we are given a choice between two bad options.  You have to go with the less bad option.

I actually admired Cheney because he was straight up about what he was about.  GWB was a different type - you didnt know if the dumb routine was a ploy or for real and that always bothered me a bit.

As far as what we have now, its just ridiculous.  I mean seriously - businesses are scared shit, the military has ZERO leadership, UE is skyrocketing with no end in sight, the congress is in psycho mode, etc.

I voted for McCain for four reasons, and I am very honest about it, (1) He would be a check on the Congress, (2), foreign policy, (3) foregin policy, and (4) Palin.  I dont care what anyone says, I like her, in spite of her obvious flaws.    
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 11:23:07 AM
see//i didn't wanna go there....

you r kinda insulting my intelligence here....i just went ahead and gave you the answer you were fishing for  :-\
and what choice do i have left....if you believe in god..in my mind you r no better than these extremist muslim fucks...

sooo....what do you want me to say....as long as you believe in god...you r a dumbfuck..there ..i said it...

now..if you get defensive...well....that s no more different than a muslim getting dedensive, from my prespective...so there :-\   (the general theme being...belief in god)
pretty bad logic there, so responding to you on a message board is the same as those asstards throwing acid in girls faces?

LOL I want you to understand that your morals are religious whether you see them that way or not, they are

most ppl who dont believe in religion like to say there morals are based in society and whats best for it...but alot of things could be deemed whats best for society that they might be against morally.

you shouldnt hate religion when it gives you the basis for your morality and you especially shouldnt condemn others for sharing the same moral beliefs you do...

Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:23:27 AM
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I voted for McCain for four reasons, and I am very honest about it, (1) He would be a check on the Congress, (2), foreign policy, (3) foregin policy, and (4) Palin.  I dont care what anyone says, I like her, in spite of her obvious flaws.  
  
look man...cneny come across NOT as a dumbfuck politician...
i think he's actually dying to tell WHY we went to iraq in the first place....he a military man first and a politician second...

but thats a whole different debate...would take too much typing

if Americans wanted a black person as a prez...CONDI RICE...i woulda voted for her in a second
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 12, 2009, 11:28:24 AM
I would vote for Condi as well.    I would vote for Mike Tomlin over Obama.

Many people never looked beyondf the color of his skin as to what they were getting. 
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:29:00 AM
pretty bad logic there, so responding to you on a message board is the same as those asstards throwing acid in girls faces?

LOL I want you to understand that your morals are religious whether you see them that way or not, they are

most ppl who dont believe in religion like to say there morals are based in society and whats best for it...but alot of things could be deemed whats best for society that they might be against morally.

you shouldnt hate religion when it gives you the basis for your morality and you especially shouldnt condemn others for sharing the same moral beliefs you do...



this could be argued back n forth ad naseum  :-\
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 11:35:10 AM
this could be argued back n forth ad naseum  :-\

from my MUSLIM parents...

happy? :-\
thats all that really needs to be said...
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 12, 2009, 11:47:21 AM
"YOU ..yes i'm BLAMING YOU self loathing liberal white people you did this to yourselves...SO DONT FUCKING COMPLAIN..YOU allowed it... I DID NOT FUCKING MOVE TO AMERICA TO SEE IT TURN INTO A MULTICULTURAL POLITICALLY CORRECT FUCKFEST "
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Interesting commentary, can't say I disagree.  We've allowed the ultra-liberal rich whites change this country too much with their attempts to push their ideas of fairness.  Dude, you know you don't have to believe in god to be a good person.  IMO, it is most logical to be agnostic, most folks should understand that.  However, it is interesting that the desire to do good seems to come from more than just your upbringing.  I leave open the possibility and try to be the best person I can.


Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:49:53 AM
thats all that really needs to be said...

i got you on the defensive



NOW...

dont EVER bitch about ANY religion about getting defensive.... ;)
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:53:26 AM
"YOU ..yes i'm BLAMING YOU self loathing liberal white people you did this to yourselves...SO DONT FUCKING COMPLAIN..YOU allowed it... I DID NOT FUCKING MOVE TO AMERICA TO SEE IT TURN INTO A MULTICULTURAL POLITICALLY CORRECT FUCKFEST "
----------------Interesting commentary, can't say I disagree.  We've allowed the ultra-liberal rich whites change this country too much with their attempts to push their ideas of fairness.  Dude, you know you don't have to believe in god to be a good person.  IMO, it is most logical to be agnostic, most folks should understand that.  However, it is interesting that the desire to do good seems to come from more than just your upbringing.  I leave open the possibility and try to be the best person I can.
man what CAN i do?  i'm a brown guy..an atheist..with muslim parents...i'm FUCKED before the word go....
 >:(  and this girl Obama is to blame...he is NOt doing muslims a favour with his political correct crap....a LOT of muslims (including my parents) dont agree with him....he is just objectifying the low class agenda >:(

Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 11:54:37 AM
i got you on the defensive



NOW...

dont EVER bitch about ANY religion about getting defensive.... ;)
LOL being defensive and going out and murdering ppl in the name of your religion are totally different

by your logic assault is the same as murder  ::)

youve ranted about me insulting your intelligence in this thread protein but you really havent shown any  ;)
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 11:59:38 AM
LOL being defensive and going out and murdering ppl in the name of your religion are totally different

by your logic assault is the same as murder  ::)

youve ranted about me insulting your intelligence in this thread protein but you really havent shown any  ;)

what can i say...i'm a dumbass  :-\

Ps..i'm playing your game...

a word of advice...for once ..being white guy will ya....call a n i gg er a ni gge r

PS..there r sand nigs and white trash also...but u WILL be politicalluy correct wont ya...well...personally.. .i like my freedom of aspeech! ;)
Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: tonymctones on November 12, 2009, 12:20:33 PM
what can i say...i'm a dumbass  :-\

Ps..i'm playing your game...
that you are...

what game is that? I asked a serious question you gave idiotic and inaccurate answers...

Title: Re: Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparen
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 12, 2009, 12:45:06 PM
that you are...

what game is that? I asked a serious question you gave idiotic and inaccurate answers...




o damn......you r black aintcha?   lol...figures......


ok...mr sharpton...i apologize..lol ::)