Muslim Backlash wouldnt need to be feared if Muslim condemnation was apparent...

[tonymctones]

All Ive heard about is good muslims this and good muslims that since the ft. hood incident.

My question is where are these good muslims?

I understand that there are good muslims but where is the public condemnation of this massacre by muslims?

Where is the public outcry of how this isnt what the koran teaches etc. by the "good" muslims?

While Im sure there are tons of good muslims out there as of right now all I see are muslims period.

[Fury]

All Ive heard about is good muslims this and good muslims that since the ft. hood incident.

My question is where are these good muslims?

I understand that there are good muslims but where is the public condemnation of this massacre by muslims?

Where is the public outcry of how this isnt what the koran teaches etc. by the "good" muslims?

While Im sure there are tons of good muslims out there as of right now all I see are muslims period.

This is why extremism will continue to exist. The good Muslims consistently turn a blind eye to any attacks carried about by the fundamentalists. The only time they speak up is when something negative happens to Muslims. Had it been a white guy killing 13 year Muslims, we would have surely heard from them. Until they sack up and start speaking out against terrorism, it will continue to be a problem. They need to grow a pair.

[tonymctones]

the only shit ive seen about muslims in this situation so far is how they are afraid of backlash   say something about it let the public know youre against shit like that.

[tonymctones]

This is why extremism will continue to exist. The good Muslims consistently turn a blind eye to any attacks carried about by the fundamentalists. The only time they speak up is when something negative happens to Muslims. Had it been a white guy killing 13 year Muslims, we would have surely heard from them. Until they sack up and start speaking out against terrorism, it will continue to be a problem. They need to grow a pair.

This is exactly fuking right...

[24KT]

the only shit ive seen about muslims in this situation so far is how they are afraid of backlash   say something about it let the public know youre against shit like that.

LOL... Oh ya... stick your head out so some amped up vigilante sniper with more ammo than brains can pick it off.

Like any marginalized groups... there are those speaking out, ...and there are those keeping a low profile.
You gotta understand, ...many of these guys are fighting a defensive war on two fronts.
On the one hand, they have to protect themselves from the extremist nutbags who disaprove of their lack of extremism, ...and they have to protect themselves from the hot head vigilantes who want to hurt them just because they are muslims.

[24KT]

This is why extremism will continue to exist. The good Muslims consistently turn a blind eye to any attacks carried about by the fundamentalists. The only time they speak up is when something negative happens to Muslims. Had it been a white guy killing 13 year Muslims, we would have surely heard from them. Until they sack up and start speaking out against terrorism, it will continue to be a problem. They need to grow a pair.

I won't attempt to diminish or discredit your perspective.
I will only say we obviously live in two different countries. 

[24KT]

People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.

[tonymctones]

LOL... Oh ya... stick your head out so some amped up vigilante sniper with more ammo than brains can pick it off.

Like any marginalized groups... there are those speaking out, ...and there are those keeping a low profile.
You gotta understand, ...many of these guys are fighting a defensive war on two fronts.
On the one hand, they have to protect themselves from the extremist nutbags who disaprove of their lack of extremism, ...and they have to protect themselves from the hot head vigilantes who want to hurt them just because they are muslims.

Im not going to even address the first statement other than this 

as for the rest i understand ive asked for examples though and havent been given any...

THEY AND YOU need to understand that if you do one then you will help both situations

you really think ppl dont know the majority of muslims are muslim?  what they need to do is be proactive about the situation and deal with it instead of closing there eyes and hoping it goes away...

[tonymctones]

People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.

jag the vast majority of ppl are condemning this action but the one voice that is painfully quite is the muslim community.

This was commited in the name of the muslim religion, dont act like this had nothing to do with his religion. 

is this what islam preaches? from what I can tell it might be b/c the muslim community hasnt come out against it.

[Fury]

People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.

This isn't a societal problem. These attacks ARE condemned by everyone and their mother in civilized society. However, in Muslim society, they aren't. "Moderate" Muslims will not speak up against the extremists and that's why they've pretty much had free reign to run wild across the Middle East and western Asia killing and blowing up whoever the fuck they want. Until these so-called moderates stand up and fight back against this supposed "bad" islam, it will continue.

This guy was in contact with Anwar al-Awlaki, a guy who was a "moderate" after 9/11 until he left the country. Then he ended up in Yemen where he started preaching violence against Americans and has been in contact with a number of terrorists.

One of the wonderful things al-Awlaki had to say about Nidal was “The only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the U.S. Army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.”

Get the fuck out of here your "societal" bullshit. This is a fucking Muslim problem. It's ridiculous that this religion is completely indemnified by apologists like you. These guys could detonate a nuke in London, kill 500,000 people and you would find a way to justify it and blame it on the English.  

[Skip8282]

LOL... Oh ya... stick your head out so some amped up vigilante sniper with more ammo than brains can pick it off.

Cowards.

...and they have to protect themselves from the hot head vigilantes who want to hurt them just because they are muslims.

Proof of all these vigilantes?  Or just more bullshit speculation?

[24KT]

Im not going to even address the first statement other than this 

as for the rest i understand ive asked for examples though and havent been given any...

THEY AND YOU need to understand that if you do one then you will help both situations

you really think ppl dont know the majority of muslims are muslim?  what they need to do is be proactive about the situation and deal with it instead of closing there eyes and hoping it goes away...

I've both seen and heard plenty of muslim condemnation... even on American news.
If you guys are neither seeing it nor hearing it, it's because you're either watching FOXNews,
...or you're purposely and willfully being blind to it.

[240 is Back]

If an American soldier happens to read a Koran each night instead of a Bible - after spending 16 hours dodging bullets to help preserve our freedom and way of life - I could care less.

Anyone who isn't serving, who wants to kick them out of their role of defending our country, should sign the fck up and take their spot in the battlefield and quit being an armchair warrior.

[ksa_triceps]

 

We are not only stressing our concern about what is happening, but we are in a state of war on terrorism.

Why would you expect a Muslim to come on an American news channel and condemn these acts? I've never seen an American do that on our local news channels?, but from America's act i do understand that they are not so fond with the situation.

Your media is controlled by who? You expect them to let you know both sides of the story? Do some research and you'll know what I'm talking about.

I can link you to thousands of leaders/elitists/commoners talking about the situation. But you wouldn't understand Arabic.

Hint: Google Saudi's war on terrorism.

[Soul Crusher]

People are talking about "Muslim condemnation this" ...muslim condemnation that... but imo it appears people see this an a "Muslim problem". It isn't. It is a societal problem. EVERYONE needs to condemn these types of crimes... not just muslims. This was not a "MUSLIM CRIME"... Not praying in the direction of Mecca... eating pork... not washing your feet a gadzillion times a day... THOSE are muslim crimes. This was a crime committed by a nutbag who happened to be muslim.

Yeah, it only happens that every society where there are a lot of muslims this garbage happens to occur with a greater frequency than anywhere else. 

And yes, JAGASS, it is a "muslim crime". 

[The Showstoppa]

Totally agree. 

[tonymctones]

If an American soldier happens to read a Koran each night instead of a Bible - after spending 16 hours dodging bullets to help preserve our freedom and way of life - I could care less.

Anyone who isn't serving, who wants to kick them out of their role of defending our country, should sign the fck up and take their spot in the battlefield and quit being an armchair warrior.

please keep your statements to the topic of this thread nobody said word one about not letting muslims serve in the army in this thread...

[tonymctones]

I've both seen and heard plenty of muslim condemnation... even on American news.
If you guys are neither seeing it nor hearing it, it's because you're either watching FOXNews,
...or you're purposely and willfully being blind to it.

again jag i hardly get time to watch the news anymore except in the evenings, get off the fox news kick  ok youre starting to sound like blacken or mons...

[tonymctones]

We are not only stressing our concern about what is happening, but we are in a state of war on terrorism.

Why would you expect a Muslim to come on an American news channel and condemn these acts? I've never seen an American do that on our local news channels?, but from America's act i do understand that they are not so fond with the situation.

Your media is controlled by who? You expect them to let you know both sides of the story? Do some research and you'll know what I'm talking about.

I can link you to thousands of leaders/elitists/commoners talking about the situation. But you wouldn't understand Arabic.

Hint: Google Saudi's war on terrorism.

what exactly are you guys doing on your war on terrorism?

Where did i ever say that muslims from other countries need to appear on American TV? 

FACT is the muslim voice is not LOUD AND APPARENT on this issue

[ksa_triceps]

what exactly are you guys doing on your war on terrorism?

Where did i ever say that muslims from other countries need to appear on American TV? 

FACT is the muslim voice is not LOUD AND APPARENT on this issue

We are in a state of war with terrorism. Read how many have been killed till this moment.

You people act like the only victim when we have suffered 980390x the casualties. And when Saudi Arabia -the most Islamic country in the world by far- is killing them at sight and offering rewards in millions to anyone that "hints" on their whereabouts. 

Then how is it that you blame Islam for radicalizing them? Beats my mind!

If you don't know what's happening then take the time and effort to do so.

[tonymctones]

We are in a state of war with terrorism. Read how many have been killed till this moment.

You people act like the only victim when we have suffered 980390x the casualties. And when Saudi Arabia -the most Islamic country in the world by far- is killing them at sight and offering rewards in millions to anyone that "hints" on their whereabouts. 

Then how is it that you blame Islam for radicalizing them? Beats my mind!

If you don't know what's happening then take the time and effort to do so.

first of all where did I blame Islam for radicalizing them?

youre not in this country and while things maybe different on your side of the world the muslim community doesnt publicly condemn this actions like they should here in america.

[BM OUT]

When has there EVER been backlas against Muslims in this country.There was ZERO backlash after 911.There SHOULD be backlash but there wont be.You saw more backlash by blacks over the Rodney King case then EVER will by Americans towards Muslims.More left wing media crap hoping the government will take more liberty from us.

[Fury]

We are in a state of war with terrorism. Read how many have been killed till this moment.

You people act like the only victim when we have suffered 980390x the casualties. And when Saudi Arabia -the most Islamic country in the world by far- is killing them at sight and offering rewards in millions to anyone that "hints" on their whereabouts.  

Then how is it that you blame Islam for radicalizing them? Beats my mind!

If you don't know what's happening then take the time and effort to do so.

We can thank the Saudis (the biggest funders of terrorism in the world) for the bullshit that is Wahabbism. About time they started taking responsibility for the abomination they created.

[24KT]

again jag i hardly get time to watch the news anymore except in the evenings, get off the fox news kick  ok youre starting to sound like blacken or mons...

and you're beginning to sound like 333386. How can you type and keep a straight face?
how can you say there is no condemnation on the news when you don't even watch the news. zip it!

[240 is Back]

When has there EVER been backlas against Muslims in this country.There was ZERO backlash after 911

There were over 1700 documented cases of violent acts classified as muslim backlash in the year following 9/11. 

These are from police departments.  http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa091401a.htm