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Title: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 11, 2009, 07:18:02 AM
I guess you could do both half-arsed but to do one properly you would have to drop or sevely tone down the other

Bodybuilding
Pros: Girls love muscle (here anyway),being strong is great,eat as much as you like,big arms are every guys dream to have
Cons: Gear costs quite a bit,cardiovascularly unfit,restrictive lifestyle,training can sometimes be a pain in the ass

MMA
Pros: Great fun to do,makes you incredibly fit,learning something new every session,healhier lifestyle
Cons: Lose a lot of your muscle,get niggling injuries quite a bit
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
Ive given this alot of though, and being so short while weighing like 75kg, boxing would just be a Nightmare against 185+ cm dudes..

then again, I cant even jog, so that sucks lol.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 11, 2009, 07:24:55 AM
Why not do MMA so,grappling takes away the reach advantage that tall fighters thrive on
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: Hulkotron on November 11, 2009, 07:25:15 AM
Why can't you jog Swede?
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 07:27:47 AM
Why not do MMA so,grappling takes away the reach advantage that tall fighters thrive on


Ive done submission wrestling, but doing my own retarded warmup when everyone else can just jog around in circles was getting fucking annoying, cant go outside for a jogging cardio session or anything, and if the legs gets in a strange angle while on the ground, the pain can go from nothing to feeling like the leg is about to explode in 0.5 sec

without any training I beat every single of the ju jutsu #### though :D , BJJ is good, but normal JJ is useless.
And no one could take me down, not even the 250+ pound dudes.

haha I feel like onlyme  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 07:29:42 AM
Why can't you jog Swede?

the lower part of my legs starts hurting like hell after about 4 sec.. I cant explain it in english, I need to get it checked out and maby have something done about it, Im just too lazy though.  I cant even walk FAST for a few min
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: d0nny2600 on November 11, 2009, 08:05:27 AM
the lower part of my legs starts hurting like hell after about 4 sec.. I cant explain it in english, I need to get it checked out and maby have something done about it, Im just too lazy though.  I cant even walk FAST for a few min
You are better off..walking is catabolic  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 11, 2009, 08:08:34 AM
the lower part of my legs starts hurting like hell after about 4 sec.. I cant explain it in english, I need to get it checked out and maby have something done about it, Im just too lazy though.  I cant even walk FAST for a few min

Is it in the front of your lower leg, right along the bone?
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 08:11:45 AM
Is it in the front of your lower leg, right along the bone?

yep =), on both sides, I got a thing to put inside the shoe, to relieve the pain, but it didn't help.


(http://www.halsokonsult.se/sidadmin/bildbanken/Image/Benhinnor2.jpg)
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: JasonH on November 11, 2009, 08:24:31 AM
Bodybuilding is the better lifestyle IMO as long as you don't go nuts and take it too seriously like entering contests and all that shit.

With MMA you're just asking to have your face rearranged and call me lame but that kinda doesn't appeal to me - especially when your face is as beautiful as mine.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: kiwiol on November 11, 2009, 09:27:39 AM
yep =), on both sides, I got a thing to put inside the shoe, to relieve the pain, but it didn't help.


(http://www.halsokonsult.se/sidadmin/bildbanken/Image/Benhinnor2.jpg)

Are you flat footed?
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: CalvinH on November 11, 2009, 09:33:32 AM
Hmmm,rolling around with another guy in a cage while wearing short shorts or getting oiled up and posing in a g-string for a bunch of men.......can I please have some more time to think about this ??? :-\
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 11, 2009, 09:38:03 AM
Swede = "Compartment Syndrom" look it up.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: kiwiol on November 11, 2009, 09:44:13 AM
Hmmm,rolling around with another guy in a cage while wearing short shorts or getting oiled up and posing in a g-string for a bunch of men.......can I please have some more time to think about this ??? :-\

Not every bodybuilder who lifts, competes. In fact, most don't.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: CalvinH on November 11, 2009, 09:46:56 AM
Not every bodybuilder who lifts, competes. In fact, most don't.



The first time I've ever seen you not get a joke :(
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: Parker on November 11, 2009, 09:48:57 AM
yep =), on both sides, I got a thing to put inside the shoe, to relieve the pain, but it didn't help.


(http://www.halsokonsult.se/sidadmin/bildbanken/Image/Benhinnor2.jpg)
Shin splints...I got them in high school when I ran track..
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 11, 2009, 09:49:12 AM
Bodybuilding is the better lifestyle IMO as long as you don't go nuts and take it too seriously like entering contests and all that shit.

With MMA you're just asking to have your face rearranged and call me lame but that kinda doesn't appeal to me - especially when your face is as beautiful as mine.

Not really,here in Ireland the fights are mostly amateur,which is no strikes to the face on the ground
Its great fun training MMA,even if you never fight I reckon
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: Tyr on November 11, 2009, 09:49:57 AM
yep =), on both sides, I got a thing to put inside the shoe, to relieve the pain, but it didn't help.


(http://www.halsokonsult.se/sidadmin/bildbanken/Image/Benhinnor2.jpg)

shin splints maybe
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: kiwiol on November 11, 2009, 09:55:42 AM


The first time I've ever seen you not get a joke :(

Are you suggesting I should try doubling my medication?
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 11, 2009, 09:58:17 AM
Shin splints...I got them in high school when I ran track..

Swede doesn't run and said when he does the pain starts in about 4 secs after running. True shin splints take along time to develop..


Again, maybe or maybe not compartment syndrome

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00204
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: CalvinH on November 11, 2009, 11:16:43 AM
Are you suggesting I should try doubling my medication?



No,I'm suggesting that you stop taking your medication all together!
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: JasonH on November 11, 2009, 11:16:55 AM
Not really,here in Ireland the fights are mostly amateur,which is no strikes to the face on the ground
Its great fun training MMA,even if you never fight I reckon

True - seeing as I've never tried MMA training I can't really compare the two accurately - got a mate though who goes to a club and they learn all the grappling and jiu jitsu stuff and he loves it and always says I should come along and give it a go.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: funk51 on November 11, 2009, 12:44:53 PM
I guess you could do both half-arsed but to do one properly you would have to drop or sevely tone down the other

Bodybuilding
Pros: Girls love muscle (here anyway),being strong is great,eat as much as you like,big arms are every guys dream to have
Cons: Gear costs quite a bit,cardiovascularly unfit,restrictive lifestyle,training can sometimes be a pain in the ass

MMA
Pros: Great fun to do,makes you incredibly fit,learning something new every session,healhier lifestyle
Cons: Lose a lot of your muscle,get niggling injuries quite a bit
               by girls do you mean gays, not that there's anything wrong with that. mma not to mention broken bones and diminished mental capacity esp for those who can ill afford to lose any.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: io856 on November 11, 2009, 12:49:50 PM
I would rather my kid taking jabs in the form of needles than repeated jabs to face and body  ::)
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 01:09:32 PM
Swede doesn't run and said when he does the pain starts in about 4 secs after running. True shin splints take along time to develop..


Again, maybe or maybe not compartment syndrome

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00204

and it havent gotten any better now 4 years later..

I match the symptoms, I should book a time at the doc's place
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: liberalismo on November 11, 2009, 02:03:48 PM
I never lost any muscle when I started doing MMA. In fact, the change in type of exercises and the sparring and wrestling made me more defined.





Swede. When I first started running I got terrible shin splints. Just stop running until it heals, then run again. Continue this. After several months you don't get them anymore. This happens because of weak calve bones. The impact breaks down the bone and creates tiny fractures.


Also, invest in some decent running shoes.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 02:05:53 PM
Swede. When I first started running I got terrible shin splints. Just stop running until it heals, then run again. Continue this. After several months you don't get them anymore. This happens because of weak calve bones. The impact breaks down the bone and creates tiny fractures.



trust me I have tried lol.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 11, 2009, 02:06:42 PM
Well id have to lose about 2stone I reckon to be fit enough to fight a full 5minute round to the best of my ability
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: liberalismo on November 11, 2009, 02:08:10 PM
trust me I have tried lol.

No. It takes several months. You run a few miles and then get calve pains and rest a week or two and then do it again. You do this for several months until the time needed to rest before running a few miles again gets to a few days and then a single day and then nothing. Ideally you should be able to run several miles a day, each day, at least.

But it takes a lot of time and patience. Just be persistent.

When I first started my calve bones hurt to the touch. Now they are built up from impact and are strong.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 11, 2009, 02:09:04 PM
Swede, does the pain go away while excercising or get worse?  Also, do your feet tingle? 
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 02:11:32 PM
No. It takes several months. You run a few miles and then get calve pains and rest a week or two and then do it again. You do this for several months until the time needed to rest before running a few miles again gets to a few days and then a single day and then nothing. Ideally you should be able to run several miles a day, each day, at least.

But it takes a lot of time and patience. Just be persistent.

When I first started my calve bones hurt to the touch. Now they are built up from impact and are strong.

at one point I tried doing so, and I couldnt walk normal for months because of the weeks..
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: liberalismo on November 11, 2009, 02:12:28 PM
at one point I tried doing so, and I couldnt walk normal for months because of the weeks..

Just keep up at it.


Also remember to stretch at least 5 minutes before a run. Especially the calves.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: spinnis on November 11, 2009, 02:14:05 PM
Swede, does the pain go away while excercising or get worse?  Also, do your feet tingle? 

I dont feel it during squat actually, but legpress with my feet low on the "board" hurts like a BITCH after a rep or two
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 11, 2009, 02:18:58 PM
I dont feel it during squat actually, but legpress with my feet low on the "board" hurts like a BITCH after a rep or two

If it never feels like it loosens up, Coach is probably right.  You should look into the CCS.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: americanbulldog on November 11, 2009, 08:44:29 PM
I never lost any muscle when I started doing MMA. In fact, the change in type of exercises and the sparring and wrestling made me more defined.

  • Girls don't like guys who look like they are roided out.
  • You can be a bodybuilder and still have good cardio health.
  • Bodybuilders can't eat as much as they like
  • MMA isn't necessarily "healthy", but compared to pro bodybuilding it is very healthy.




Swede. When I first started running I got terrible shin splints. Just stop running until it heals, then run again. Continue this. After several months you don't get them anymore. This happens because of weak calve bones. The impact breaks down the bone and creates tiny fractures.


Also, invest in some decent running shoes.


No way you can do both successfully.  First off, when doing stand up, you will need your shoulder girdle to be as flexible as possible.  Something lots of "bodybuilding" inhibits.  When doing sub grappling, bjj, wrestling, you won't be able to lift heavy if sparring consistently. 

I've lost 20 lbs in the last two years, most of it muscle.  When I went from a 2-3 times a week trainer to someone who competes every three to four months, your body will shed any unnecessary muscle mass.  Grappling is anaerobic, so trying to prepare for it by doing LSD cardio is ineffectual.  Mat time is what will condition you.  Same thing as stand up.  You will have to change your strength and conditioning program to match your desired goals.  Doens't mean you can't be muscular, just means that if you are a successful competitive bodybuilder, you can't be a successful competitive combat athlete. 

Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: Parker on November 12, 2009, 12:04:56 AM
I never lost any muscle when I started doing MMA. In fact, the change in type of exercises and the sparring and wrestling made me more defined.

  • Girls don't like guys who look like they are roided out.
  • You can be a bodybuilder and still have good cardio health.
  • Bodybuilders can't eat as much as they like
  • MMA isn't necessarily "healthy", but compared to pro bodybuilding it is very healthy.




Swede. When I first started running I got terrible shin splints. Just stop running until it heals, then run again. Continue this. After several months you don't get them anymore. This happens because of weak calve bones. The impact breaks down the bone and creates tiny fractures.


Also, invest in some decent running shoes.

with arch supports, that may also be it. Also he can try strengthening his shin muscles, buy like sticking his foot underneath the stove and raising his foot, or putting a weight (that he can stand) and lifting the foot. Or try a bucket of sand...these were methods my track and lifting coaches told me in high school. And they worked.

I had shin splints sooo bad that after practice I would be clutching my shins in agony.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: drkaje on November 12, 2009, 06:48:54 AM
I guess you could do both half-arsed but to do one properly you would have to drop or sevely tone down the other

Bodybuilding
Pros: Girls love muscle (here anyway),being strong is great,eat as much as you like,big arms are every guys dream to have
Cons: Gear costs quite a bit,cardiovascularly unfit,restrictive lifestyle,training can sometimes be a pain in the ass

MMA
Pros: Great fun to do,makes you incredibly fit,learning something new every session,healhier lifestyle
Cons: Lose a lot of your muscle,get niggling injuries quite a bit

Injuries can make you black?!!?  :)
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: liberalismo on November 12, 2009, 11:27:17 AM
No way you can do both successfully.  First off, when doing stand up, you will need your shoulder girdle to be as flexible as possible.  Something lots of "bodybuilding" inhibits.  When doing sub grappling, bjj, wrestling, you won't be able to lift heavy if sparring consistently. 

I've lost 20 lbs in the last two years, most of it muscle.  When I went from a 2-3 times a week trainer to someone who competes every three to four months, your body will shed any unnecessary muscle mass.  Grappling is anaerobic, so trying to prepare for it by doing LSD cardio is ineffectual.  Mat time is what will condition you.  Same thing as stand up.  You will have to change your strength and conditioning program to match your desired goals.  Doens't mean you can't be muscular, just means that if you are a successful competitive bodybuilder, you can't be a successful competitive combat athlete. 




You don't have to compete to be a bodybuilder. (or a mixed martial artist)
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: SS on November 12, 2009, 01:36:27 PM
No way you can do both successfully.  First off, when doing stand up, you will need your shoulder girdle to be as flexible as possible.  Something lots of "bodybuilding" inhibits.  When doing sub grappling, bjj, wrestling, you won't be able to lift heavy if sparring consistently.  

I've lost 20 lbs in the last two years, most of it muscle.  When I went from a 2-3 times a week trainer to someone who competes every three to four months, your body will shed any unnecessary muscle mass.  Grappling is anaerobic, so trying to prepare for it by doing LSD cardio is ineffectual.  Mat time is what will condition you.  Same thing as stand up.  You will have to change your strength and conditioning program to match your desired goals.  Doens't mean you can't be muscular, just means that if you are a successful competitive bodybuilder, you can't be a successful competitive combat athlete.  


Good post.....quick question how come there's certian mma fighting that look like they could do both like snowman and others that I just cant remember right now..........Genetics? roids? just curious.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: stuntmovie on November 12, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
Genetics most likely,
Title: Re: Bodybuilding vs MMA
Post by: americanbulldog on November 12, 2009, 11:53:37 PM
Genetics most likely,

And the ability to beat the athletic commsion tests.   ;D  Josh Barnett looks like chit, yet has been popped, as has Timmay.  Just goes to show you that you don't have to be aesthetic to be on gear.