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Title: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: James on November 16, 2009, 06:47:24 AM
For all of you that think: "Maybe he’s always the first to drop his hand at the end"

Watch the video:

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Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 06:48:14 AM
James:  This is going on my facebook and to everyone I know. 

I think this settles it IMHO. 
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: James on November 16, 2009, 06:53:32 AM
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James:  This is going on my facebook and to everyone I know.

I think this settles it IMHO. 

I think even with this video, some will still not be convinced.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 06:55:52 AM
I think even with this video, some will still not be convinced.

Come on 240 - CARE TO COMMENT? 
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Hedgehog on November 16, 2009, 06:58:05 AM
Witch hunt. :-\
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: boonasty on November 16, 2009, 07:00:32 AM
Witch hunt. :-\

 ???

are you saying the video is doctored
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
Witch hunt. :-\

GMAFB - even 5 y/o know what to do during a baseball game when this comes on.  I was at a hockey game yesterday and people put down their hot dogs and beer to do the right thing.  

This is not a witch hunt, its right on film and in your face.  
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Eric15210 on November 16, 2009, 07:05:19 AM
maybe they had wrong music playing  ;D



Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 07:07:42 AM
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Up is Down
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: 240 is Back on November 16, 2009, 07:08:09 AM
Come on 240 - CARE TO COMMENT?  

that was from the campaign trail - i want to see if he was foolish enough to do that shit yesterday as the claim was made - anyone have video from this week?
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Hedgehog on November 16, 2009, 07:08:57 AM
???

are you saying the video is doctored

No.

My point is that the whole idea of trying to paint Obama - or Bush - or Ronald Reagan - or whoever - as a traitor, possible terrorist, is just asinine.

It's the same shit when Fox tried to discredit John Kerry's Vietnam record. People still to this day probably think he was a coward when he was over there. Lies tend to stick if you tell them enough many times.

Look, I'm not saying Obama shouldn't be critisised. But the whole bullshit about making him come across as a traitor is just bullshit and takes away from the issues.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: James on November 16, 2009, 07:09:47 AM
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that was from the campaign trail - i want to see if he was foolish enough to do that shit yesterday as the claim was made - anyone have video from this week?

333386 , see what I mean ?
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 07:10:06 AM
that was from the campaign trail - i want to see if he was foolish enough to do that shit yesterday as the claim was made - anyone have video from this week?

My god are you dense.

240:  you, me, and 99% of all decent Americans do the right thing WHENEVER this comes on whether they are a candidate, an office holder, at a ball game, at a town hall meeting, at a school function, whatever.  

THERE IS ZERO EXCUSE FOR THIS.  
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: 240 is Back on November 16, 2009, 07:11:45 AM
My god are you dense.

240:  you, me, and 99% of all decent Americans do the right thing WHENEVER this comes on whether they are a candidate, an office holder, at a ball game, at a town hall meeting, at a school function, whatever. 

THERE IS ZERO EXCUSE FOR THIS.   

agreed, and he was rightfully chewed up and spit out as un-american because of this gross display 18 months ago.

Since then, he's been saluting, holding hand on heart, and wearing flag pin.

that's why I wanted to see if a video existed of THIS WEEK's claim that he sat there diddling thumbs while everyone else saluter.  THAT would be a huge huge deal.  But no video yet. 
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: James on November 16, 2009, 07:13:23 AM
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agreed, and he was rightfully chewed up and spit out as un-american because of this gross display 18 months ago.

Since then, he's been saluting, holding hand on heart, and wearing flag pin.

that's why I wanted to see if a video existed of THIS WEEK's claim that he sat there diddling thumbs while everyone else saluter.  THAT would be a huge huge deal.  But no video yet.

240.

Even when we get the video of this, many people will still find an excuse for it ( maybe even you)
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Hedgehog on November 16, 2009, 07:14:55 AM
GMAFB - even 5 y/o know what to do during a baseball game when this comes on.  I was at a hockey game yesterday and people put down their hot dogs and beer to do the right thing.  

This is not a witch hunt, its right on film and in your face.  

I did a quick search on youtube to see if you were right about this. That people were doing the right thing at sports events, I mean.

Looks like you are wrong. A lot of people standing not holding their hands on their chest.




For the record, when I was in high school in USA, I had my hand on the chest at every basketball game during the national anthem. And I sang every word of it too, damn it! 8)
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: 240 is Back on November 16, 2009, 07:16:44 AM
240.

Even when we get the video of this, many people will still find an excuse for it ( maybe even you)

Nope.  not me.  Prez is the leader of the country - he has to be the role model. That song plays, and he should be singing, saluting, and praising this great country.

He was rightfully chewed out for it last time.  I would be shocked to see him do it again.  If he was singing, okay I could understand having hands down, as someone who sings myself, it's about projection, and a president singing the nat'l anthem is a pretty awesome sight to be honest.  

however, if he's just chilling, thinking about the Bulls' playoff chances while everyone else is singing or saluting, that's pretty shitty.  that's why I wanted to see video so bad.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: 240 is Back on November 16, 2009, 07:19:00 AM
And for some people, it's not their style to hold hands up.  Like hedge said, at any game, you'll see people who love america not saluting.  Bush loved the USA, but he was spotted not saluting at times as well.  Actions on a nationwide scale speak more volume.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 07:32:24 AM
* TITLE 36–PATRIOTIC AND NATIONAL OBSERVANCES, CEREMONIES, AND ORGANIZATIONS
o SUBTITLE I–PATRIOTIC AND NATIONAL OBSERVANCES AND CEREMONIES
+ PART A–OBSERVANCES AND CEREMONIES
# CHAPTER 3–NATIONAL ANTHEM, MOTTO, FLORAL EMBLEM, AND MARCH
* Section 301–National Anthem

Sec. 301. National anthem

(a) Designation.–The composition consisting of the words and music
known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.–During a rendition of the national
anthem–
(1) when the flag is displayed–
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at
attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with
their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder,
the hand being over the heart;[/n] and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute
at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until
the last note; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face
toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag
were displayed.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: James on November 16, 2009, 07:42:13 AM
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* TITLE 36–PATRIOTIC AND NATIONAL OBSERVANCES, CEREMONIES, AND ORGANIZATIONS
o SUBTITLE I–PATRIOTIC AND NATIONAL OBSERVANCES AND CEREMONIES
+ PART A–OBSERVANCES AND CEREMONIES
# CHAPTER 3–NATIONAL ANTHEM, MOTTO, FLORAL EMBLEM, AND MARCH
* Section 301–National Anthem

Sec. 301. National anthem

(a) Designation.–The composition consisting of the words and music
known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.–During a rendition of the national
anthem–
(1) when the flag is displayed–
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at
attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with
their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder,
the hand being over the heart;[/n] and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute
at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until
the last note; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face
toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag
were displayed.

33386, It is a lost cause, as most liberals will always find an excuse for what Obama does.

Lets just accept the fact that his teleprompter wasn't working good that day, and move on.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 07:45:30 AM
F.U.B.O.!
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Kazan on November 16, 2009, 07:59:30 AM
I never thought I would see the day when Americans would see no problem with the POTUS not showing proper respect to the country.

Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 08:01:59 AM
I never thought I would see the day when Americans would see no problem with the POTUS not showing proper respect to the country.



Obama is like the spawn of the thousands of Dr. Frankensteins in the far left colleges and universities. 
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: headhuntersix on November 16, 2009, 08:52:04 AM
Kazan...look at what they teach in school and then decide if thats what u really think. I'm 35..school wasn't that long ago. I recite the preamble and name every beach on D-day. I knew about Chamberlain at Little Round Top and the Battle of Bunker Hill....and that was in a catholic grammer school. I did my 8th grade project on the Battle of Hue. These kids have no deep love for America..barry is a projection of that.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: pedro01 on November 16, 2009, 08:55:36 AM
Sounds like someone is strangling a cat in the background. Perhaps Obi is keeping his hand on his nuts to protect them from her high pitched squeals
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Kazan on November 16, 2009, 08:59:10 AM
Kazan...look at what they teach in school and then decide if thats what u really think. I'm 35..school wasn't that long ago. I recite the preamble and name every beach on D-day. I knew about Chamberlain at Little Round Top and the Battle of Bunker Hill....and that was in a catholic grammer school. I did my 8th grade project on the Battle of Hue. These kids have no deep love for America..barry is a projection of that.

I agree what passes for teaching history in school is a fucking disgrace. My father was an avid reader and a history fanatic, guess thats where I get it from.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 09:01:21 AM
I agree what passes for teaching history in school is a fucking disgrace. My father was an avid reader and a history fanatic, guess thats where I get it from.

Its horrific how little the average person knows about history. 
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Kazan on November 16, 2009, 09:06:35 AM
Its horrific how little the average person knows about history. 


My kid is in 7th grade and about the only history she has been taught in school revolves around salvery, select portions of the civil war years, and a glazing over of the American Revolution. The complete focus on the dark parts of American history is disturbing.
Title: Re: Video: Obama refuses to salute US flag
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 09:08:15 AM

My kid is in 7th grade and about the only history she has been taught in school revolves around salvery, select portions of the civil war years, and a glazing over of the American Revolution. The complete focus on the dark parts of American history is disturbing.

Its on purpose.