This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week. He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to. Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?Most all Bodybuilders have low self esteem hence they try and build their bodies to overcome the problem.
Are you huge and ripped yet?
Fuck no...Huge by regular people standard yes. Ripped no...248lbs..strength is good dieting getting cleaned up. No supplements.
I thought you had a plan for this year, can't remember exactly.
Most all Bodybuilders have low self esteem hence they try and build their bodies to overcome the problem.Good post , the ones that deny this are lying to themselves.
i think people have alot of reasons for themNope I dont think so.
but sure i suppose to help boost esteem
is there something wrong with this? if it makes someone feel good about themselves without compromising too many other factors of life/health then whats the issue?
Good post , the ones that deny this are lying to themselves.Yes, most all bodybuilders have a underlying issue with childhood or other issues which fuels the motivation to improve/show someone they can overcome, myself included.
Then I guess the same arguement could be made about tats!Did you start lifting because you are so short Joe?
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week. He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to. Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
Are you still in high school? ;D
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week. He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to. Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?I think that when u feel the need to "get past your natural limits" (oh brother ::) ) it means that yeah, you have a low self esteem/are insecure about ...your "natural limits".
so does that mean if you try to be successful in life you have low self esteem?Thats twisting it a bit.
why does anyone bother to wash their clothes or move out of home? LOW SELF ESTEEM!
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week. He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to. Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out. Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke. You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym. 9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them. If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop. You make yourself look foolish. Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".hey fag, didnt u start out doing steroids many years ago?
What a sorry cop out. Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke. You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym. 9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them. If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop. You make yourself look foolish. Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".HAAHHAHHHHAHAH OH FUCK that was good
What a sorry cop out. Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke. You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym. 9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them. If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop. You make yourself look foolish. Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".hey let me help you out with this...
What a sorry cop out. Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke. You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym. 9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them. If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop. You make yourself look foolish. Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out. Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke. You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym. 9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them. If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop. You make yourself look foolish. Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
if i didnt take steroids, i would be smaller and fatter than i am now. if i stop taking steroids, then with time i will be smaller and fatter than i would have been if i had stayed on steroids.Must be a good feeling to know you can't achieve even a decent physique on your own. I honestly don't understand why you'd even bother working out.
thats all i need to know
Croatch uses more gear than all of us in this thread , true story CheesyIf I were on steroids or needed them to attain 205lbs lean, I'd fucking kick my dealer's ass, then shoot myself.
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week. He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to. Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
Must be a good feeling to know you can't achieve even a decent physique on your own. I honestly don't understand why you'd even bother working out.I can achieve a decent body without drugs. and i did. i transformed a obscenely obese body into a lean and muscular athletic body. now i still workout just as hard, in fatc i workout harder. and im just as dedicated to my training and diet. i do get to eat more food now,but thats only because i have more muscle. i rely on myself and on drugs. i would look good without them, i just wouldnt look as good as i do now.
I have more respect for the fatbody on the treadmill who loses 10lbs on his own, than the juicehead who weighs 260lbs.
One relies on himself, the other drugs....winner...fatbod y. :)
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".true
What a sorry cop out. Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke. You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym. 9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them. If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop. You make yourself look foolish. Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
I can achieve a decent body without drugs. and i did. i transformed a obscenely obese body into a lean and muscular athletic body. now i still workout just as hard, in fatc i workout harder. and im just as dedicated to my training and diet. i do get to eat more food now,but thats only because i have more muscle. i rely on myself and on drugs. i would look good without them, i just wouldnt look as good as i do now.Congratulations, you're better than most drug users out there. Still, I see no point in the drug game. More money, gains that you lose, even worse...bullshitting people who say "you're on steroids". I can't imagine having to lie to every person I talk with lifting about. What a fraud.
Croatch, I bet you're the type of guy who goes clubbing all sober and then claims he's having just as much fun without drinking.haha, Close.
Croatch, I bet you're the type of guy who goes clubbing all sober and then claims he's having just as much fun without drinking.
um...most people in life have some self-esteem issues, bodybuilders just do something about it.
I started lifting because i liked training in general but it does get obsessive and trying to improve yourself constantly has to come down to something.
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Looks a little greasy there.Marcel is a hit with the ladys ;)
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week. He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to. Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out. Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke. You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym. 9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them. If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop. You make yourself look foolish. Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
Most all Bodybuilders have low self esteem hence they try and build their bodies to overcome the problem.shotgun approach to a much more complicated issue
shotgun approach to a much more complicated issue
if i didnt take steroids, i would be smaller and fatter than i am now. if i stop taking steroids, then with time i will be smaller and fatter than i would have been if i had stayed on steroids.Your lack of willpower sickens me ;D
thats all i need to know
haha, Close.Yeah cause going to a large dark club filled with wasted chicks looking to dance with dudes is soooooo not a better time than playing with yourself in front of the computer doing blow hahaha f*cking loser
You couldn't pay me to go to a dance club. If you don't dance, drink, or do drugs...there really is no point.
I'm sure I'd be disgusted there too at the number of attention whores parading around for drunk guys, who give them the impression they're more attractive then they are. Much like the scene from "Swingers".
I'd rather do some blow and look at internet porn. Same result. Bust a nut and feel like garbage the next day.
Yeah cause going to a large dark club filled with wasted chicks looking to dance with dudes is soooooo not a better time than playing with yourself in front of the computer doing blow hahaha f*cking loserYeah sounds like a shitty time to me. Any time I went to NYC, dropped a couple pills and danced with half naked women all nite till 6 in the morning sucked. ::) ::)
if you are not a pro. bb and you take steroids you are an asshole imo!..
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Steroids=Size Size=Confidence Size+Confidence=Pussy.
I can achieve a decent body without drugs. and i did. i transformed a obscenely obese body into a lean and muscular athletic body. now i still workout just as hard, in fatc i workout harder. and im just as dedicated to my training and diet. i do get to eat more food now,but thats only because i have more muscle. i rely on myself and on drugs. i would look good without them, i just wouldnt look as good as i do now.
Yeah sounds like a shitty time to me. Any time I went to NYC, dropped a couple pills and danced with half naked women all nite till 6 in the morning sucked. ::) ::)jeez what tourture, what were you thinking ...should of just sat at home, get a bag and lined them up with some stolen Bangbros passes ...
Laziness has a lot to do with it as well. How often do you read threads about fat fucks, who refuse to diet, using steroids to get lean?
Congratulations, you're better than most drug users out there. Still, I see no point in the drug game. More money, gains that you lose, even worse...bullshitting people who say "you're on steroids". I can't imagine having to lie to every person I talk with lifting about. What a fraud.
I'd rather take nothing and then laugh in the face of someone who implies I'm on drugs. You can then reply, "No, my genetics are just better and I actually work at the gym." This usually leaves them dumbfounded, but they'll usually laugh about it, though they realize they were owned.
With being on sauce, you have to portray a lie to people...why not do it yourself....let alone the health risks/small balls/roid bloat.
It's just pointless.
so nasser was an asshole when he was an amateur, and he's an asshole today since he's retired ::)
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when he was an amateur NO because he had the dream to be a pro. and as we know all top amateurs especially in heavy weights must take roids to win!!..
who told you he takes roids now :P
you said only pros can take steroids
and if you're going to claim he's 300 lbs with abs, you have to say he's still on the juice
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Oh horseshit.....I am a lifelong natural, not even one cycle ever, but the "holier than thou" naturals are just as big of douches. They are just as insecure....."If he wasn't juicing, I'd be bigger than him..." blah, blah, blah.... When the VAST majority of them have no concept of what hard work is. I've met juicers that busted their ass, some lazy and some in between. Same for naturals.I'll agree on that point. The problem is, I don't usually knock guys who look far better than me on gear, I knock the douches who don't come close...which is usually most on gear.
I'll agree on that point. The problem is, I don't usually knock guys who look far better than me on gear, I knock the douches who don't come close...which is usually most on gear.
I think, "Even on drugs, you still fail." hahah, It's pathetic.
Most physiques worth posting pictures of are those who are using juice and other PEDs. Basically any time a muscle schmoe has his picture posted on here you come out of no where and melt down over every detail. If their hair is thinning, if they have bad skin, if they train one muscle and neglect another like upper legs or calves, you fly into a blinding rage and meltdown like none other.Well put. I still like making people aware of these pretending fools. Nothing worse than going into Gold's, seeing the next "Arnold" checking himself out in the mirror, so proud of his 15lbs of dbol bloat. Simply sad to watch. Even worse, when they see my natural shirt and know, they'll be my slave in the after life now.
It's getting predictable and annoying. I train with people who juice, others who don't, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. If people do happen to juice, I just hope that they're educated and aware of the consequences. As long as they're being responsible and not putting their health into major jeopardy then who cares? I have some friends who juice and look like shit and some who look great. Some of the ones who look like shit might have other stuff going on in their life, and a couple of them are admittedly just plain pathetic. Why drive them into the ground with insults? If someone's truly a loser, they're probably already aware.
Well put. I still like making people aware of these pretending fools. Nothing worse than going into Gold's, seeing the next "Arnold" checking himself out in the mirror, so proud of his 15lbs of dbol bloat. Simply sad to watch. Even worse, when they see my natural shirt and know, they'll be my slave in the after life now.
what wording did you choose for your gym shirt?Natural Bodybuilding
Well put. I still like making people aware of these pretending fools. Nothing worse than going into Gold's, seeing the next "Arnold" checking himself out in the mirror, so proud of his 15lbs of dbol bloat. Simply sad to watch. Even worse, when they see my natural shirt and know, they'll be my slave in the after life now.Don't you after to ass raped them, eat the heart, and then melt their family sword or something like that? ???
Don't you after to ass raped them, eat the heart, and then melt their family sword or something like that? ???No, it's quite simple. If I surpass you on no drugs and you're on drugs, you will be the Croatch's slave in the afterlife.
I want to juice because I can't build muscles naturally. Like Ronnie Coleman.
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week. He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to. Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
Good point - I think I'll use that one next time a non-bodybuilder asks if I'm insecure (which I'm not :P )