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Title: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Wiggs on November 19, 2009, 03:06:04 PM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: wavelength on November 19, 2009, 03:10:13 PM
Are you huge and ripped yet?
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 19, 2009, 03:12:11 PM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
Most all Bodybuilders have low self esteem hence they try and build their bodies to overcome the problem.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Wiggs on November 19, 2009, 03:28:31 PM
Are you huge and ripped yet?

Fuck no...Huge by regular people standard yes. Ripped no...248lbs..strength is good dieting getting cleaned up. No supplements.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: dustin on November 19, 2009, 03:30:39 PM
Self righteous natties always say shit like that. Some juicers are douche bags too but it goes both ways.

Rather not limit yourself and just juice away. If you've put the time in the gym, kitchen and have done some soul searching then go for it. Steroids make you feel awesome, just be prepared for the consequences and treat it like any other recreational drug. Use caution, do your research, be smart about your dosages and lay out a solid game plan.

Steroids are awesome ;D
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: wavelength on November 19, 2009, 03:30:42 PM
Fuck no...Huge by regular people standard yes. Ripped no...248lbs..strength is good dieting getting cleaned up. No supplements.

I thought you had a plan for this year, can't remember exactly.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: disturbia on November 19, 2009, 03:32:14 PM
i originally did the juice because of low self esteem
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Wiggs on November 19, 2009, 03:35:03 PM
I thought you had a plan for this year, can't remember exactly.

I did.  I got so tired of dieting and going to the gym.  I quit everything the week of the Olympia and ate normal and quit working out for a month and some days. I just started up again.  Not as hardcore cause I want to enjoy the holidays.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2009, 03:37:48 PM
Most all Bodybuilders have low self esteem hence they try and build their bodies to overcome the problem.
Good post , the ones that deny this are lying to themselves.

Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: ahh.. fk on November 19, 2009, 03:38:40 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm steroids
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Tombo on November 19, 2009, 03:40:53 PM
i think people have alot of reasons for them

but sure i suppose to help boost esteem

is there something wrong with this? if it makes someone feel good about themselves without compromising too many other factors of life/health then whats the issue?
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Earl1972 on November 19, 2009, 03:41:56 PM
anybody that consistently works out does it to boost self esteem

nothing wrong with self improvement

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Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2009, 03:42:24 PM
i think people have alot of reasons for them

but sure i suppose to help boost esteem

is there something wrong with this? if it makes someone feel good about themselves without compromising too many other factors of life/health then whats the issue?
Nope I dont think so.
As long as you are doing it for you and not others then there is nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 19, 2009, 03:54:11 PM
Good post , the ones that deny this are lying to themselves.


Yes, most all bodybuilders have a underlying issue with childhood or other issues which fuels the motivation to improve/show someone they can overcome, myself included.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 19, 2009, 03:59:11 PM
Then I guess the same arguement could be made about tats!
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2009, 04:01:29 PM
Then I guess the same arguement could be made about tats!
Did you start lifting because you are so short Joe?
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: jtsunami on November 19, 2009, 04:06:54 PM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?

sounds like a twink to me  ;D
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 19, 2009, 04:40:32 PM
Are you still in high school?  ;D
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: honest on November 19, 2009, 04:44:26 PM
Make up = low self esteem ?
Excercise = low self esteem ?
Dieting = low self esteem ?
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Wiggs on November 19, 2009, 04:46:51 PM
Are you still in high school?  ;D

No I'm 30...I happen to keep in touch with people through facebook.  He's my friend but he's an asshole.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: yng466 on November 19, 2009, 04:48:15 PM
Failure to try=Low self esteem.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: uberman09 on November 19, 2009, 04:52:57 PM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?
I think that when u feel the need to "get past your natural limits" (oh brother  ::) ) it means that yeah, you have a low self esteem/are insecure about ...your "natural limits".

Do you think people in the third world who have nothing to eat care about "getting past their natural limits"  ::)  It only a "problem" to deal with what you are for  spoiled losers in our modern rich societies.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: io856 on November 19, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
so does that mean if you try to be successful in life you have low self esteem?

why does anyone bother to wash their clothes or move out of home? LOW SELF ESTEEM!
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2009, 05:16:32 PM
so does that mean if you try to be successful in life you have low self esteem?

why does anyone bother to wash their clothes or move out of home? LOW SELF ESTEEM!
Thats twisting it a bit.
what benifits does blowing your muscles up have in everyday life..those examples are silly compared to the topic of the thread.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 19, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Bix on November 19, 2009, 05:26:35 PM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it  ::)...What are your thoughts?

Are you that guy from MuscleMemory? He's believes all the government says  ::)
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: jtsunami on November 19, 2009, 05:28:14 PM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.

ahh what a refresher the local steroid hater/user :)

Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: haider on November 19, 2009, 05:30:25 PM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
hey fag, didnt u start out doing steroids many years ago?

how do we know u didnt just keep your gains? shut your trap biatch!
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: io856 on November 19, 2009, 07:25:44 PM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
HAAHHAHHHHAHAH OH FUCK that was good
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: tbombz on November 19, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
if i didnt take steroids, i would be smaller and fatter than i am now. if i stop taking steroids, then with time i will be smaller and fatter than i would have been if i had stayed on steroids.

thats all i need to know
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: io856 on November 19, 2009, 07:30:41 PM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
hey let me help you out with this...

BODYBUILDING IS A STEROID CULTURE!


 ;)
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: calfzilla on November 19, 2009, 08:02:52 PM
Steroids=Size  Size=Confidence  Size+Confidence=Pussy. 
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: dustin on November 19, 2009, 08:09:20 PM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.

Wahhh, wahhh, wahhhhhh. Somebody call the wahhhhhmbulence!!!

It's amazing how much PED use/abuse gets in your head. You need to chill out. Maybe a little bit of test will level things out. :D
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WillGrant on November 19, 2009, 08:24:23 PM
Croatch uses more gear than all of us in this thread , true story  :D
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: benchmstr on November 19, 2009, 08:31:19 PM
i took them because they were cheaper than the shit on the shelves at GNC.

bench
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 19, 2009, 09:39:34 PM
if i didnt take steroids, i would be smaller and fatter than i am now. if i stop taking steroids, then with time i will be smaller and fatter than i would have been if i had stayed on steroids.

thats all i need to know
Must be a good feeling to know you can't achieve even a decent physique on your own.  I honestly don't understand why you'd even bother working out.
I have more respect for the fatbody on the treadmill who loses 10lbs on his own, than the juicehead who weighs 260lbs.
One relies on himself, the other drugs....winner...fatbod y. :)
Quote
Croatch uses more gear than all of us in this thread , true story  Cheesy
If I were on steroids or needed them to attain 205lbs lean, I'd fucking kick my dealer's ass, then shoot myself.
True story.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on November 19, 2009, 10:09:58 PM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?

if you are not a pro. bb and you take steroids you are an asshole imo!..
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: cross-of-iron on November 19, 2009, 10:24:46 PM
It wouldn't be the first time I was called an asshole.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: tbombz on November 19, 2009, 10:33:49 PM
Must be a good feeling to know you can't achieve even a decent physique on your own.  I honestly don't understand why you'd even bother working out.
I have more respect for the fatbody on the treadmill who loses 10lbs on his own, than the juicehead who weighs 260lbs.
One relies on himself, the other drugs....winner...fatbod y. :)
I can achieve a decent body without drugs. and i did. i transformed a obscenely obese body into a lean and muscular athletic body. now i still workout just as hard, in fatc i workout harder. and im just as dedicated to my training and diet. i do get to eat more food now,but thats only because i have more muscle.  i rely on myself and on drugs. i would look good without them, i just wouldnt look as good as i do now.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Tyr on November 19, 2009, 10:39:05 PM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.
true
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 19, 2009, 10:49:27 PM
I can achieve a decent body without drugs. and i did. i transformed a obscenely obese body into a lean and muscular athletic body. now i still workout just as hard, in fatc i workout harder. and im just as dedicated to my training and diet. i do get to eat more food now,but thats only because i have more muscle.  i rely on myself and on drugs. i would look good without them, i just wouldnt look as good as i do now.
Congratulations, you're better than most drug users out there.  Still, I see no point in the drug game.  More money, gains that you lose, even worse...bullshitting people who say "you're on steroids".  I can't imagine having to lie to every person I talk with lifting about.  What a fraud.
I'd rather take nothing and then laugh in the face of someone who implies I'm on drugs.  You can then reply, "No, my genetics are just better and I actually work at the gym."  This usually leaves them dumbfounded, but they'll usually laugh about it, though they realize they were owned.
With being on sauce, you have to portray a lie to people...why not do it yourself....let alone the health risks/small balls/roid bloat.
It's just pointless.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 19, 2009, 11:24:15 PM
Croatch, I bet you're the type of guy who goes clubbing all sober and then claims he's having just as much fun without drinking.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 19, 2009, 11:33:02 PM
Croatch, I bet you're the type of guy who goes clubbing all sober and then claims he's having just as much fun without drinking.
haha, Close.
You couldn't pay me to go to a dance club.  If you don't dance, drink, or do drugs...there really is no point.
I'm sure I'd be disgusted there too at the number of attention whores parading around for drunk guys, who give them the impression they're more attractive then they are.  Much like the scene from "Swingers".
I'd rather do some blow and look at internet porn.  Same result.  Bust a nut and feel like garbage the next day.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: kreator on November 19, 2009, 11:33:10 PM
the weird part is that people tend to develop some insecurities as they progress in this ''sport'', i mean maybe low self esteem got them to pick up weights in the first place but once they get big and start getting compliments it's usually counter productive, it's harder to lose something than not having it at all.......
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Wiggs on November 20, 2009, 12:18:33 AM
Croatch, I bet you're the type of guy who goes clubbing all sober and then claims he's having just as much fun without drinking.

lmao
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: pellius on November 20, 2009, 01:23:40 AM
Poor Arnold. I always suspected that deep down he had low self-esteem and lacked self-confidence. What a loser.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WingedLion on November 20, 2009, 01:45:13 AM
As much I hate to admit it , yes he is absolutely right

we bodybuild with roids because of issues within ourselves

lately I found joy in bodybuilding naturally , eating well and doing some cardio for my health.

Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: webcake on November 20, 2009, 01:49:08 AM
pretty much anyone in bb'ing, regardless of whether being natural or not, probably has some degree of self esteem issues. Obviosuly would vary from person to person, but one of the appealing aspects of a bigger physique is an increase in confidence.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 20, 2009, 02:10:11 AM
um...most people in life have some self-esteem issues, bodybuilders just do something about it.

I started lifting because i liked training in general but it does get obsessive and trying to improve yourself constantly has to come down to something.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: JasonH on November 20, 2009, 02:11:24 AM
um...most people in life have some self-esteem issues, bodybuilders just do something about it.
I started lifting because i liked training in general but it does get obsessive and trying to improve yourself constantly has to come down to something.

Good point - I think I'll use that one next time a non-bodybuilder asks if I'm insecure (which I'm not  :P )
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Mars on November 20, 2009, 02:46:59 AM
i started because i was disgusted with other peoples bodies when i sat on the beach, then i realised i looked just as skinny as them. i never looked back.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WillGrant on November 20, 2009, 03:01:19 AM
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Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 20, 2009, 03:06:22 AM
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Looks a little greasy there.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: WillGrant on November 20, 2009, 03:11:49 AM
Looks a little greasy there.
Marcel is a hit with the ladys  ;)
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Pecs on November 20, 2009, 03:20:57 AM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?

Your friend is generalising. I mean come on, MANY professional sportsman take steroids including boxers, runners, cyclists etc.etc.......

You can however make a case of people using steroids as CHEATING,

For low self esteem, you can say that woman who put on make up have low self esteem, or even someone laser their eyes for perfect eyesight etc. etc...
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: wile e roadrunner on November 20, 2009, 03:23:51 AM
Croatch is right about everything.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Mars on November 20, 2009, 03:53:08 AM
i think the percentage of confidence lackers are higher within the steroid trainer group yes.
i dont see the point anymore of wanting to have more muscles than is physically possible. as a fanatic natural trainer you should already stand out from 99% of the crowd. so why more.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: drkaje on November 20, 2009, 04:57:56 AM
Taking steroids to pass your "natural limits".
What a sorry cop out.  Guaranteed, most on, barely have a solid diet naturally for a few years.
Nothing wrong with someone taking drugs to exist in a gym, it's just sad.
Everything that lifting should not be about, but is...due to the overflow of pussies out there who just can't cut it on their own.
"All the pro bb take drugs, so I should too to be hardcore." hahah
Heavy drug use is anything buy hardcore, it's a joke.  You ingest a bunch of drugs, sure thing, you WILL grow.
The lack of heart in gyms today, is simply disgusting.
 ;)
Off to witness more pretending fools at the "mecca" of lifting, Gold's Gym.  9 of 10 on drugs, have no business messing with them.  If you're not a pro athlete, simply stop.  You make yourself look foolish.  Grown men pounding needles to get that extra few pounds of muscle for the BIG local show. ::)
I workout, and this is my opinion...imagine what most people think of these clowns.

Speak the word, Brother!

Speak the mother-effing word!
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 20, 2009, 05:10:25 AM
Oh horseshit.....I am a lifelong natural, not even one cycle ever, but the "holier than thou" naturals are just as big of douches.  They are just as insecure....."If he wasn't juicing, I'd be bigger than him..." blah, blah, blah....  When the VAST majority of them have no concept of what hard work is.  I've met juicers that busted their ass, some lazy and some in between.  Same for naturals. 

Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Pecs on November 20, 2009, 05:10:49 AM
professional sports---steroids= cheating

just to look huge and ripped with no intention of competing--- steroids= stupid
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: brent2741 on November 20, 2009, 05:27:00 AM
Most all Bodybuilders have low self esteem hence they try and build their bodies to overcome the problem.
shotgun approach to a much more complicated issue
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: drkaje on November 20, 2009, 05:40:37 AM
shotgun approach to a much more complicated issue

Laziness has a lot to do with it as well. How often do you read threads about fat fucks, who refuse to diet, using steroids to get lean?
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: dov on November 20, 2009, 05:42:44 AM
if i didnt take steroids, i would be smaller and fatter than i am now. if i stop taking steroids, then with time i will be smaller and fatter than i would have been if i had stayed on steroids.

thats all i need to know
Your lack of willpower sickens me ;D

Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: jaejonna on November 20, 2009, 06:22:48 AM
haha, Close.
You couldn't pay me to go to a dance club.  If you don't dance, drink, or do drugs...there really is no point.
I'm sure I'd be disgusted there too at the number of attention whores parading around for drunk guys, who give them the impression they're more attractive then they are.  Much like the scene from "Swingers".
I'd rather do some blow and look at internet porn.  Same result.  Bust a nut and feel like garbage the next day.
Yeah cause going to a large dark club filled with wasted chicks looking to dance with dudes is soooooo not a better time than playing with yourself in front of the computer doing blow hahaha f*cking loser
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: ChristopherA on November 20, 2009, 06:37:21 AM
Yeah cause going to a large dark club filled with wasted chicks looking to dance with dudes is soooooo not a better time than playing with yourself in front of the computer doing blow hahaha f*cking loser
Yeah sounds like a shitty time to me. Any time I went to NYC, dropped a couple pills and danced with half naked women all nite till 6 in the morning sucked.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Earl1972 on November 20, 2009, 11:42:10 AM
if you are not a pro. bb and you take steroids you are an asshole imo!..

so nasser was an asshole when he was an amateur, and he's an asshole today since he's retired ::)

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Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Earl1972 on November 20, 2009, 11:46:47 AM
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is that really mars?

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Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: uberman09 on November 20, 2009, 11:48:30 AM
Steroids=Size  Size=Confidence  Size+Confidence=Pussy. 

you re quite the intelectual arent you...
























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Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: uberman09 on November 20, 2009, 11:51:50 AM
I can achieve a decent body without drugs. and i did. i transformed a obscenely obese body into a lean and muscular athletic body. now i still workout just as hard, in fatc i workout harder. and im just as dedicated to my training and diet. i do get to eat more food now,but thats only because i have more muscle.  i rely on myself and on drugs. i would look good without them, i just wouldnt look as good as i do now.

you just have unanswered shortcomings/traumas leading your thoughts and actions , that's why you still need to steroids to compensate, cause without em, you couldnt do it; you re not strong intelecutally speaking,smart enough, to face your shortcomings and fight em back with the power of your will, your insufisant inherited education and the shity environment that surrounds you since you re born.

If you were able to find something to replace steroids and still would make you feel good about yourself, you would perharps quit injecting. But as long as you dont find/dont have the capability to find something better, you re going to stay on.

One day you will find out steroids werent a smart choice to make you feel better about yourself. That you should have used your brains instead to compensate for your psychological insecurities. Or perhaps you ll never be able to overcome your insecurities and will die the way you lived.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: jaejonna on November 20, 2009, 12:41:59 PM
Yeah sounds like a shitty time to me. Any time I went to NYC, dropped a couple pills and danced with half naked women all nite till 6 in the morning sucked.  ::) ::)
jeez what tourture, what were you thinking ...should of just sat at home, get a bag and lined them up with some stolen Bangbros passes ...
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Les Grossman on November 20, 2009, 12:45:55 PM
Laziness has a lot to do with it as well. How often do you read threads about fat fucks, who refuse to diet, using steroids to get lean?

Generation Entitlement getting the physiques they're owed....
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: ahh.. fk on November 20, 2009, 02:48:40 PM
I enjoy the occasional light cycle but I am insecure with a superiority complex. Go figure.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Stavios on November 20, 2009, 02:52:46 PM
First I had low self esteem.

then I started getting bigger so I increased my confidence.

then I realized big muscles means jack shit so I started working on other areas of my life and it
 also increased my confidence a lot
 

and at the end of the day I am still handsome even if some day I get back to 150 lbs  8)
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 20, 2009, 03:13:56 PM
Congratulations, you're better than most drug users out there.  Still, I see no point in the drug game.  More money, gains that you lose, even worse...bullshitting people who say "you're on steroids".  I can't imagine having to lie to every person I talk with lifting about.  What a fraud.
I'd rather take nothing and then laugh in the face of someone who implies I'm on drugs.  You can then reply, "No, my genetics are just better and I actually work at the gym."  This usually leaves them dumbfounded, but they'll usually laugh about it, though they realize they were owned.
With being on sauce, you have to portray a lie to people...why not do it yourself....let alone the health risks/small balls/roid bloat.
It's just pointless.

If it wasn't evident already, this post shows that there are 'naturals' who are far more insecure than a steroid user is.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on November 20, 2009, 07:44:02 PM
so nasser was an asshole when he was an amateur, and he's an asshole today since he's retired ::)

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when he was an amateur NO because he had the dream to be a pro. and as we know all top amateurs especially in heavy weights must take roids to win!!..

who told you he takes roids now :P
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Earl1972 on November 20, 2009, 07:55:38 PM
when he was an amateur NO because he had the dream to be a pro. and as we know all top amateurs especially in heavy weights must take roids to win!!..

who told you he takes roids now :P

you said only pros can take steroids

and if you're going to claim he's 300 lbs with abs, you have to say he's still on the juice

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Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on November 20, 2009, 08:03:17 PM
you said only pros can take steroids

and if you're going to claim he's 300 lbs with abs, you have to say he's still on the juice

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ok and to be a pro. you MUST take roids when you are an amateur so you can't deal with both cases separately!!.. but yes if someone just competes for fun and to improve his physique i believe it's better to stay away from roids and to be always natural no matter how judges place him!..
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: HTexan on November 20, 2009, 08:29:22 PM
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Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 20, 2009, 08:38:10 PM
Oh horseshit.....I am a lifelong natural, not even one cycle ever, but the "holier than thou" naturals are just as big of douches.  They are just as insecure....."If he wasn't juicing, I'd be bigger than him..." blah, blah, blah....  When the VAST majority of them have no concept of what hard work is.  I've met juicers that busted their ass, some lazy and some in between.  Same for naturals. 


I'll agree on that point.  The problem is, I don't usually knock guys who look far better than me on gear, I knock the douches who don't come close...which is usually most on gear.
I think, "Even on drugs, you still fail." hahah, It's pathetic.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: dustin on November 20, 2009, 08:54:05 PM
I'll agree on that point.  The problem is, I don't usually knock guys who look far better than me on gear, I knock the douches who don't come close...which is usually most on gear.
I think, "Even on drugs, you still fail." hahah, It's pathetic.

Most physiques worth posting pictures of are those who are using juice and other PEDs. Basically any time a muscle schmoe has his picture posted on here you come out of no where and melt down over every detail. If their hair is thinning, if they have bad skin, if they train one muscle and neglect another like upper legs or calves, you fly into a blinding rage and meltdown like none other.

It's getting predictable and annoying. I train with people who juice, others who don't, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. If people do happen to juice, I just hope that they're educated and aware of the consequences. As long as they're being responsible and not putting their health into major jeopardy then who cares? I have some friends who juice and look like shit and some who look great. Some of the ones who look like shit might have other stuff going on in their life, and a couple of them are admittedly just plain pathetic. Why drive them into the ground with insults? If someone's truly a loser, they're probably already aware.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 20, 2009, 09:12:35 PM
Most physiques worth posting pictures of are those who are using juice and other PEDs. Basically any time a muscle schmoe has his picture posted on here you come out of no where and melt down over every detail. If their hair is thinning, if they have bad skin, if they train one muscle and neglect another like upper legs or calves, you fly into a blinding rage and meltdown like none other.

It's getting predictable and annoying. I train with people who juice, others who don't, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. If people do happen to juice, I just hope that they're educated and aware of the consequences. As long as they're being responsible and not putting their health into major jeopardy then who cares? I have some friends who juice and look like shit and some who look great. Some of the ones who look like shit might have other stuff going on in their life, and a couple of them are admittedly just plain pathetic. Why drive them into the ground with insults? If someone's truly a loser, they're probably already aware.
Well put.  I still like making people aware of these pretending fools.  Nothing worse than going into Gold's, seeing the next "Arnold" checking himself out in the mirror, so proud of his 15lbs of dbol bloat.  Simply sad to watch.  Even worse, when they see my natural shirt and know, they'll be my slave in the after life now.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: tom joad on November 20, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
Well put.  I still like making people aware of these pretending fools.  Nothing worse than going into Gold's, seeing the next "Arnold" checking himself out in the mirror, so proud of his 15lbs of dbol bloat.  Simply sad to watch.  Even worse, when they see my natural shirt and know, they'll be my slave in the after life now.

what wording did you choose for your gym shirt?
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 20, 2009, 09:57:41 PM
what wording did you choose for your gym shirt?
Natural Bodybuilding
Back: why pretend

BOOM!
haha
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: HTexan on November 20, 2009, 10:26:49 PM
Well put.  I still like making people aware of these pretending fools.  Nothing worse than going into Gold's, seeing the next "Arnold" checking himself out in the mirror, so proud of his 15lbs of dbol bloat.  Simply sad to watch.  Even worse, when they see my natural shirt and know, they'll be my slave in the after life now.
Don't you after to ass raped them, eat the heart, and then melt their family sword or something like that?  ???
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: ygbodybuilder10 on November 21, 2009, 12:33:38 AM
people juice up for different reasons, MTV SHOWED THAT
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Croatch on November 21, 2009, 01:22:14 AM
Don't you after to ass raped them, eat the heart, and then melt their family sword or something like that?  ???
No, it's quite simple.  If I surpass you on no drugs and you're on drugs, you will be the Croatch's slave in the afterlife.
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: Pet shop boys on November 21, 2009, 10:55:24 AM
I want to juice because I can't build muscles naturally. Like Ronnie Coleman.

Dont need drugs to build muscles, stick to the Levrone project baby!



WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 21, 2009, 10:57:46 AM
This asshole I know from high school and I have been arguing the past week.  He says anyone who takes steroids has low self esteem, I told him that people use it to get past natural limits and to be better then their genetics allow them to.  Obviously there are people that have low self esteem that juice but the fuck says all people do and the shrinks and the FDA condfirmed it ::)...What are your thoughts?

Fuck his girl friend....

simple...
Title: Re: Steroids = low self esteem?
Post by: HDPhysiques on November 22, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
Good point - I think I'll use that one next time a non-bodybuilder asks if I'm insecure (which I'm not  :P )

Outed as insecure.  If you weren't, you wouldn't need to announce it.