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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Captain Equipoise on December 06, 2009, 05:16:46 PM
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Just curious to see what everyone on here regularly takes and why...
other then BCAA's and whey/egg albumen protein I usually take:
multi vitamin - good for all around health
alpha lipoic acid R+ - anti oxidant
gaba - to help with sleep issues
glucosamine - joint health
vitamin C - it's winter, for flu prevention, etc.
flax seed oil caps/omega 3.6.9 oil caps - overall health
lately I've been taking melatonin (oral spray version - 1.5mg per spray) but it's been giving me weird side effects
next morning at work my memory's all fuzzy, feel groggy for half the day and get weird dreams on it..anyone else have similar side effectS?
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flax seed oil caps/omega 3.6.9 oil caps - overall health
Fish oil would be much much better ;)
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multi vit
efas
joint supp
cora calcium
olive leaf extract
rla
carnitine analog supp
protein powder
shotgun by vpx
bcaa/eaa powder
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2 blood pressure meds, fish oil, and a multivitamin! :-\
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Fish oil would be much much better ;)
Why do you say that? I don't know too much about the different types of oil, I've taken fish oil caps before (I believe cod or something) what's their significance ?
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Why do you say that? I don't know too much about the different types of oil, I've taken fish oil caps before (I believe cod or something) what's their significance ?
From Princess L / date unknown:
This a favorite question of mine. I have spent a lot of time researching. Despite all that has been written and said, I believe that fish oil gives the most bang for the buck. Essential fatty acid's fall into the group known as long chain omega 3's. These long chain omega 3 fats are EPA and DHA. Fish oil contains these two acids-in that specific form. EPA and DHA are the only form of essential long chain omega 3 acids that the body can use.
Flax, borage, etc, do not contain EPA and DHA. Instead they contain both omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids. Our normal diet already gives us an over abundance of omega 6 fats versus omega 3 fats.
The problem with flax is that it contains short chain omega 3 as well as omega 6 fatty acids. Since the body can only utilize long chain omega 3's in the form of EPA and DHA, multiple conversions have to be undertaken by the bodies metabolic pathways to convert this short chain 3 into a usable form of long chain omega 6. The conversion is not very efficient, our bodies convert only a very small fraction of short chain omega 3 into long chain omega 6.
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From Princess L / date unknown:
Cool, thanks.
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Plagiarism is what I do best.
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lately I've been taking melatonin (oral spray version - 1.5mg per spray) but it's been giving me weird side effects
next morning at work my memory's all fuzzy, feel groggy for half the day and get weird dreams on it..anyone else have similar side effectS?
In my opinion that shit is the devil. It also gives me weird dreams & makes me feel hungover for half the day.
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In my opinion that shit is the devil. It also gives me weird dreams & makes me feel hungover for half the day.
Really f*cked up dreams, but it beats take 5 xanax to pass out.. :P
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I've heard some people report switching to Melatonin because they experience vivid/crazy dreams with GABA.
Out of curiosity, how's the GABA working out for you?
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From Princess L / date unknown:
sheesh ::) what a complicated answer ;D
For the winter, cod liver oil would be an okay choice. More and more evidence is pointing towards the fact that we're very deficient in vitamin D (even in those living in sunny climates). Cod liver oil is a good source for D.
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sea weed extract.
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Really f*cked up dreams, but it beats take 5 xanax to pass out.. :P
I'll take some whiskey any day. ;D
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normally i take a few fish oil, and a multivitamin. thats it.
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multivitamin
fish oil caps
whey
dextrose
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I've heard some people report switching to Melatonin because they experience vivid/crazy dreams with GABA.
Out of curiosity, how's the GABA working out for you?
I don't know, I usually take a handful around 8pm, like 4-5 caps... can't say I've really noticed it doing anything.. I'm still trying to work something out with the melatonin, I have insomnia issues (since high school) and it takes a lot of sleep meds/benzodiazepam's to put me out, which sucks cause I have to be at my office by 9-10 am the next morning and I like waking up around 11, LOL.. so usually around 8pm I start taking GABA and melatonin by the handful's.. it's either that or a bunch of xanax, ativan or immovane
It really sucks not being able to sleep, my sleep cycle is like 4+ over normal people, I usually can't fall asleep till 1-2 am
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& now to answer the initial question. I take the following:
5 fish oil capsules
1 multivitamin
1 coral calcium
2 trace mineral tablets
& my homemade NO drink on training days
& a little protein powder from time to time
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Protein power
BCAA's
vitamin C
multi vit
Fish Oil
Probiotics
thats it, not too much.
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viagra-LOTS of it....i am going for full body health!!!
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viagra-LOTS of it....i am going for full body health!!!
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Why?
I thought you gave up dating :P
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Rhetorical question Farley!!!!
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Why?
I thought you gave up dating :P
;D
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Why?
I thought you gave up dating :P
i did, but i still like to play ringtoss/horse shoes by myself.
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multi vitamin
fish oil / omega 3
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2 blood pressure meds, fish oil, and a multivitamin! :-\
what is your blood pressure without the meds and is it essential hypertension(idiopathic, they dont know why) or is it from a disease like pheochromacytoma or conns etc?
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what is your blood pressure without the meds and is it essential hypertension(idiopathic, they dont know why) or is it from a disease like pheochromacytoma or conns etc?
severe sexual anxiety/depression ;)
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my bp was 144/96. it's now 115/65. :)
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my bp was 144/96. it's now 115/65. :)
rubbed one out?.... ;D
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my bp was 144/96. it's now 115/65. :)
really, that is just stage one hypertension, lifestyle changes, supplements and other things should have to implemented first, its not even that high.
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really, that is just stage one hypertension, lifestyle changes, supplements and other things should have to implemented first, its not even that high.
Agreed. But sometimes you just can't fight genetics. For example I take a low dose of Atenol (25mg's) & have for three years (of course there's been some seriously fucked up shit that happened in that time). I've increased the cardio & dropped some weight & I've had the dose cut in half & by next year I should be off it. :)
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Mine is usually 150/100
when I used to take tren that shit got up to 195/140 once
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Agreed. But sometimes you just can't fight genetics. For example I take a low dose of Atenol (25mg's) & have for three years (of course there's been some seriously fucked up shit that happened in that time). I've increased the cardio & dropped some weight & I've had the dose cut in half & by next year I should be off it. :)
ya but you could take many things to lower blood pressure.
seriously, try 100mgs of ca10, 3 tablespoons of olive oil and 250mls of pomegranate juice a day. Report back in a month. Nothing wrong with the drugs at all, the supps have similar effects as the beta blocker you take, not literally. :D
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ya but you could take many things to lower blood pressure.
seriously, try 100mgs of ca10, 3 tablespoons of olive oil and 250mls of pomegranate juice a day. Report back in a month. Nothing wrong with the drugs at all, the supps have similar effects as the beta blocker you take, not literally. :D
What the hell is ca10 !?!
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What the hell is ca10 !?!
coQ10 sorry, im a jewpie.
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coQ10 sorry, im a jewpie.
LOL, cool..I take that stuff..
what else is good for high bp ? I don't know if the melatonin has any effect on it, I read online it can lower bp by 5-10points
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LOL, cool..I take that stuff..
what else is good for high bp ? I don't know if the melatonin has any effect on it, I read online it can lower bp by 5-10points
olive oil, seriously, great shit. I mentioned it before. pomegranate extract juice, it contains an ACE inhibitor(angiotensigen converting enzyme). i stated these above.
bonito peptides(could be spelling this wrong here)
garlic and fish oil have modest effects at best. meditation has a very profound impact on blood pressure. just 10-20 mins a day of mindfullness meditation.
not sure on the melatonin, dont have time to research right now, but ill look into that and get back to you. If i had to geuss i would say it does have an effect as it is anxiolytic and a potent anti-oxident, it wouldnt be the first thing id use though, although id use melatonin regardless of a condition.
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Multi-Vitamin
10g's of Fish Oil
Creatine Mono
BCAA's before training
A healthy 3000 calorie diet with plenty of fruits, veggies and berries.
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Pre work out booster
Waxy maize post work out.
Multi vit and something for joints at night
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Good stuff guys, keep it coming!
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Food based multi-vitamin, multi mineral- Alive
DHEA-sublingual lipo-spray 100 mg- cortisol reduction, anti-aging
7-keto DHEA 200 mg- fat burning
L-Carnitine 1000 mg (liquid)- fat burning, neuro transmitter enhancement
Vitrex- test boosting supplement
Anti-aromatase- 6-oxo clone cycled and alternated with Formestane
Whey protein Isolates and Hydrolysates
Saw palmetto- DHT inhibition for hair loss prevention and prostate care
L-Leucine - 10 grams a day pre-workout- anabolism
Zyflamend- anti-imflammatory supplement
Hemogex- GH peptide 2 supplement
Melatonin sublingual spray 3 mg
Kava liquigel caps- Relaxant for sleep
Zinc- 100 mg a day
Pro-biotic acidophilus caps
Digestive enzymes-with high protein meals
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Food based multi-vitamin, multi mineral- Alive
DHEA-sublingual lipo-spray 100 mg- cortisol reduction, anti-aging
7-keto DHEA 200 mg- fat burning
L-Carnitine 1000 mg (liquid)- fat burning, neuro transmitter enhancement
Vitrex- test boosting supplement
Anti-aromatase- 6-oxo clone cycled and alternated with Formestane
Whey protein Isolates and Hydrolysates
Saw palmetto- DHT inhibition for hair loss prevention and prostate care
L-Leucine - 10 grams a day pre-workout- anabolism
Zyflamend- anti-imflammatory supplement
Hemogex- GH peptide 2 supplement
Melatonin sublingual spray 3 mg
Kava liquigel caps- Relaxant for sleep
Zinc- 100 mg a day
Pro-biotic acidophilus caps
Digestive enzymes-with high protein meals
WOW that si quite a mouthfull there
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Food based multi-vitamin, multi mineral- Alive
DHEA-sublingual lipo-spray 100 mg- cortisol reduction, anti-aging
7-keto DHEA 200 mg- fat burning
L-Carnitine 1000 mg (liquid)- fat burning, neuro transmitter enhancement
Vitrex- test boosting supplement
Anti-aromatase- 6-oxo clone cycled and alternated with Formestane
Whey protein Isolates and Hydrolysates
Saw palmetto- DHT inhibition for hair loss prevention and prostate care
L-Leucine - 10 grams a day pre-workout- anabolism
Zyflamend- anti-imflammatory supplement
Hemogex- GH peptide 2 supplement
Melatonin sublingual spray 3 mg
Kava liquigel caps- Relaxant for sleep
Zinc- 100 mg a day
Pro-biotic acidophilus caps
Digestive enzymes-with high protein meals
I see some good stuff on that list.
Have you tried all those products by themselves?
How do you know which ones are working?
IOW, there is some overlap, i.e. Vitrex, anti-aromatase, and DHEA, for instance.
How do you know that you’re not getting all of your benefits from just one of those, while the other two are worthless – unless you’ve tried them individually (without assistance from the others)?
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I see some good stuff on that list.
Have you tried all those products by themselves?
How do you know which ones are working?
IOW, there is some overlap, i.e. Vitrex, anti-aromatase, and DHEA, for instance.
How do you know that you’re not getting all of your benefits from just one of those, while the other two are worthless – unless you’ve tried them individually (without assistance from the others)?
Yes, I have used many of these individually...been experimenting with various supplements for over 20 years. In that time I have developed a sensitivity as far as knowing whether something works on me. Also, I've even had hormone levels measured to see if anything has actually affected me. I did some small steroid cycles in the 80's , so I know I have a good response to Hormonal manipulation since I made great gains from what would be considered 'Fitness women" doses. I took Dhea in pill form a few years back up to 150 mg and noticed virtually nothing. Of course like most oral hormones, unless the molecule has been manipulated as in 17 -alkylated steroids (dianabol,etc.)oral absorbtion is very poor. Lately I tried DHea again, but in a sublingual lipo spray..and after a few weeks noticed some definite increases in muscularity and fat loss. Plus..unlike other steroids, DHEA has been shown not to inhibit your own testosterone production. However after 2 months on it DHEA, I noticed a lag in my libido..so I used some Vitrex, which is a liquified mix of eurycoma, Tribulus and other stuff. I instantly got a huge increase in sex drive and increased muscle fullness. This works on me a little like HCG. But, I got a little watery from it ..perhaps because of estrogen conversion, so I added a small dose back in of 6-oxo(aromatase inhibitor) which got rid of the watery look. The net result is at 47, still look pretty good at 5'9" 200 pounds (not ripped, but lean enough to see a bit of abs) and no need to go on HRT yet and still have good strength in the gym. And most importantly..I don't listen to "experts" on the internet that say all supplements are worthless!
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Gotcha.
Thanks!
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Just curious to see what everyone on here regularly takes and why...
other then BCAA's and whey/egg albumen protein I usually take:
lately I've been taking melatonin (oral spray version - 1.5mg per spray) but it's been giving me weird side effects
next morning at work my memory's all fuzzy, feel groggy for half the day and get weird dreams on it..anyone else have similar side effectS?
Whey
BCAA's
multi vitamin / mineral
glucosamine / MSM/ Chon blend
flax seed oil caps/omega 3.6.9 oil caps
Melatonin does that to me as well, not to mention crazy nightmares when I would take more than 3g..got Trazadone from my doc and it's like heaven. 2 50mg pills and I am out for 6hrs but wake feeling like i slept for a week! I don't have troubles falling asleep but staying asleep.
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multi vitamin
fish oil / omega 3
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same thing.
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Anything free!