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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: affeman on December 14, 2009, 12:24:19 PM
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:D
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WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO HIM!!!
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Is this legit?
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Is that really a recent of him? If so, WTF!?
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that dude's legs were like fucking oak trees...never seen anything like it.
pity he looks like a worn out middle aged man now.
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If this is him, maybe he stopped training and eating like a bber as well.
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that can't be the same guy
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yeah thats what someone looks like without gear. cutler would look like a normal person as well the day he quits the juice.
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Parker,doing his Capt. Obvious impression!! :)
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BB is all about genetics, drugs are maybe 5 % of the total package. ;)
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Parker,doing his Capt. Obvious impression!! :)
"To The Rescue!" ;D
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That must fuck you up psychologically, being 300 lbs to a skinny fat geek.
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lol.... the face is such a good match woooooow
hard to believe his forearms and neck have disappeared.......if its legit
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That must fuck you up psychologically, being 300 lbs to a skinny fat geek.
Lucky for you that you just stay a skinny fat geek and it doesn't mess with your head ;D
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makes you feel better about being all natural.
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That must fuck you up psychologically, being 300 lbs to a skinny fat geek.
something tells me he had to do it or he would have risked his health.
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Lucky for you that you just stay a skinny fat geek and it doesn't mess with your head ;D
;D
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cant wait for the
"he tried to loose weight for a movie roll"
hahahaha,
im gonna spam this on every board :D
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He tried to lose weight for a movie-role.
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He had excellent forearms...
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HOW!?!?!??! can his arm be so small now !??!?!?!?!?!?
looks like a guy that never lifted a weight EVER
>:( >:( :'(
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Amazing detransformation. It seems he became a wise man without having the addictive biggarexic syndrome. How old is he on that 2th pic?
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HOW!?!?!??! can his arm be so small now !??!?!?!?!?!?
looks like a guy that never lifted a weight EVER
>:( >:( :'(
He can't afford the medical bill anymore. :'(
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Uberman is probably right....he must have been sick and had to stop.
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he actually looks more Unhealthy Withiut the roids lol
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haha....it might be fake, a lot ot those dudes look alike
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Bwahahahahahahahah!!!
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haha....it might be fake, a lot ot those dudes look alike
no, it's legit.
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The finishing touches? Please, it's 75% of it
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(http://www.exfl.com/bodybuilder_Mustafa-Mohammed.jpg)+
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351105;image)
he must have the test levels of a newborn nowadays.
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(http://www.exfl.com/bodybuilder_Mustafa-Mohammed.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351105;image)
he must have the test levels of a newborn nowadays.
Don't post too many of that comparisons, could be a motivation for the kids to get and stay on the sauce. ;D
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fucked liver or kidneys prolly
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Moral of the story...Don't ever come off!
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its the angle.
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worse than tom prince for cripes sake!!!!!!!
this is so sad........
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Honestly....I think he just spilled over and lost a little fullness, especially in the upper-chest area.
Looks like a solid 14th place finisher at the NY Pro to me
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I dont see what all the fuss is about, he looks pretty similar in both pics to me
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probably some kind of medical problems too.
but he is alive and i wish him and his family well. you shouldnt connect muscle with your self worth. he can have a good life even if he doesnt weigh 300lbs.
mustafa was also a bodybuilder who never got the respect he deserved from the judges.
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I thought Mustafa died in a car accident .....
IMHO Id rather die a monster than shrivel into a smeagol.
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I thought Mustafa died in a car accident .....
IMHO Id rather die a monster than shrivel into a smeagol.
no you wouldnt specially if you have a family to take care of and kids who have unconditional love for you
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Jeez! Not a good look :-X
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now he has to show old pictures to people "i used to be huge and cool...."
:'(
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there are SOME gifted bbers
but id say a good 40% of them have no better genetics than the average guy...
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there are SOME gifted bbers
but id say a good 40% of them have no better genetics than the average guy...
so the average guy can take steroids and get as big as Mustafa ::)
Genetics include response to gear as well
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there are SOME gifted bbers
but id say a good 40% of them have no better genetics than the average guy...
yes drugs allow people to go way over their natural limit..BUT you also have to remember many elite athletes are all or nothing guys...when they retire they stop completely..that goes for bodybuilders, football players etc...
im sure of mustafa trained naturally he would have an above average physique...but obviously he would be miles from his shape when on drugs
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so the average guy can take steroids and get as big as Mustafa ::)
Genetics include response to gear as well
yes alot of people forget that drug response should also be included into the concept of genetics. all of the top pros have tremendous drug respons
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His genetics for responding to anabolics are at the end of the bell curve, and represent an "extreme responder".
I've been around this "sport" for a long while, and I truly believe that "genetics" as it pertains to responding to the anabolics is as much, if not equal to, one's response to intense weight training and muscle belly length.
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WOA. :o
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Drugs...they work
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His genetics for responding to anabolics are at the end of the bell curve, and represent an "extreme responder".
I've been around this "sport" for a long while, and I truly believe that "genetics" as it pertains to responding to the anabolics is as much, if not equal to, one's response to intense weight training and muscle belly length.
you can think about it in this way:
without drugs: even if you have extreme genetics you will never be incredibly big when lean...very strong yes..but not very big and lean (big and fat is another story).
with drugs: the variation will be much bigger due to drug response. (they will act as a 'multiplier'...)
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Mustafa is proof of what happens when one owes Milos coins...BE WARNED!
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so the average guy can take steroids and get as big as Mustafa ::)
Genetics include response to gear as well
how would u know what his response is untill he took the same and had access to the same guru etc ...
if is a universal open
genetically gifted from my point of view
coleman victor richards.... bertil fox
and to some extent
flex shape wise
no one else awes me..
genetcs wise
flex...
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bad lighting
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:D
that is incredible :o
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how would u know what his response is untill he took the same and had access to the same guru etc ...
if is a universal open
genetically gifted from my point of view
coleman victor richards.... bertil fox
and to some extent
flex shape wise
no one else awes me..
genetcs wise
flex...
u know his drug response is tip top because he was an elite pro. all of the elite pros have amazing drug response or they wouldnt be pros.
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i dont know anything about response to drug use whatver
all i know is been where i am from i have seen some guys with BRUTAL muscle genetics and im talking from as early as grade school 12 yrs old... in jamaice where i grew up guy with round peaked bis.. and he doesnt even know what a dumbell is or barbell or gym
like i said coleman richards..bertil.. for vrutal gentic for muscle mass
no one else awes me
a lot of these pro's are very much al drugs
see them without drugs ..and they look pathetic.. less than the average guy who never trained..
mustafa case in point
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:D
:o :o :o :o
That skinny smile is masking a lot of pain lol
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i dont know anything about response to drug use whatver
all i know is been where i am from i have seen some guys with BRUTAL muscle genetics and im talking from as early as grade school 12 yrs old... in jamaice where i grew up guy with round peaked bis.. and he doesnt even know what a dumbell is or barbell or gym
like i said coleman richards..bertil.. for vrutal gentic for muscle mass
no one else awes me
a lot of these pro's are very much al drugs
see them without drugs ..and they look pathetic.. less than the average guy who never trained..
mustafa case in point
i understand what you are saying and i mentioned it in a above post.
without drugs: person A can be bigger than person B...but with drugs person B can become bigger than person A due to drug response (if everythin else is kept equal)
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makes sense...
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how would u know what his response is untill he took the same and had access to the same guru etc ...
if is a universal open
genetically gifted from my point of view
coleman victor richards.... bertil fox
and to some extent
flex shape wise
no one else awes me..
genetcs wise
flex...
LOL so only Black guys give you "awe" ::)
The guys you mentioned would also shrivel up with no drugs, no training, and a normal diet. If Mustafa had avg genetics than anybody can simply take drugs, eat right, train right and become one of those most massive pros in the world. Surely you're not so naive to believe that anyone can look like Mustafa.
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Muscletech before and after ad.
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maybe gh15 cut off his supplier?
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its the angle.
;D ;D ;D
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LOL so only Black guys give you "awe" ::)
The guys you mentioned would also shrivel up with no drugs, no training, and a normal diet. If Mustafa had avg genetics than anybody can simply take drugs, eat right, train right and become one of those most massive pros in the world. Surely you're not so naive to believe that anyone can look like Mustafa.
that has nothing to do with "drug response"
has to do with him having genetics to put on muscles. good frame, nice muscle bellies etc.
you can load up a chiwawa with grams of gear and it still won't be bigger than it's pitbull friend.. get my drift..
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that has nothing to do with "drug response"
has to do with him having genetics to put on muscles. good frame, nice muscle bellies etc.
you can load up a chiwawa with grams of gear and it still won't be bigger than it's pitbull friend.. get my drift..
I think you misunderstood my post. I'm one of the guys posting that not any average guy with average genetics can look like Mustafa regardless of what drugs he's on
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I think you misunderstood my post. I'm one of the guys posting that not any average guy with average genetics can look like Mustafa regardless of what drugs he's on
ok sorry. I'm tired.
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The camera adds 10 lbs - it is said
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dude i just shot those name off the top of the head...
please dont make this a racial thing... because it isnt
throw some names out there i might be like "oh yeah him too"
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I must say thats pretty shocking but cmon this guy was awesome once.....maybe he had health problems and forced to stop completely even working out or even put to a special diet (if he had liver, kidney or other problems).
It funny because all the skinny bitched now would think that they can become like Mustafa too. ::)
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All drugs. Does bob take gear anymore? Probably on HRT injecting over 4 times the average males test.
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Where is Garrath when we need him to speak on this!?!?! >:(
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What happened to all of that muscle. To go from that to skin and bones is odd. At least there should be some sort of evidence that he once worked out.
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this guy used to give ron and jay a run for the titles in the grand prix shows and now he looks like some dirty pizza delivery :'(
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this guy used to give ron and jay a run for the titles in the grand prix shows and now he looks like some dirty pizza delivery :'(
ronnie, cutler , chicherello etc would all look the same without their daily injections.
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I also think it might be photoshopped, check out his other arm, looks in pretty good size.
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ronnie, cutler , chicherello etc would all look the same without their daily injections.
Chick hasn't touched gear since his Masters win in 2006. He confirmed it himself on here.
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Chick hasn't touched gear since his Masters win in 2006. He confirmed it himself on here.
LMAO...
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LMAO...
I'm serious, ask him.
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I'm serious, ask him.
oh man that's a good one...you're one funny fuker...
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I also think it might be photoshopped, check out his other arm, looks in pretty good size.
Yes, and no one seems to notice it accept us!
Look at his other arm For GOD SAKE :D
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oh man that's a good one...you're one funny fuker...
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Irony, meet emn1964.
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::)
Irony, meet emn1964.
sarcasm, meet lovemonkey
::)
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sarcasm, meet lovemonkey
::)
::)
Joke, meet emn1964.
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Yes, and no one seems to notice it accept us!
Look at his other arm For GOD SAKE :D
That is the reason why I questioned if it was him or something was odd. The sleeve on his other arm is tight, the arm is bigger, but could be flexed, as there is fullness to it.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351105;image)
he must have the test levels of a newborn nowadays.
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u know his drug response is tip top because he was an elite pro. all of the elite pros have amazing drug response or they wouldnt be pros.
Agreed
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Good for Mustafa that now hes retired he doesnt feel the need to be big anymore, good for him, i hope he lives a long healthy life.
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Its not photoshopped, you just can't see the rest of his left arm.
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so the average guy can take steroids and get as big as Mustafa ::)
Genetics include response to gear as well
exactly!
as Nasser says, "you cannot turn a poodle into a rottweiler".
steroids can only do so much to the trainee with average genetics- you can certainly gain lean muscle and size
but if you dont have the elite genetic response eg mustafa, flex, levrone youre not going to be in the Pro potential league
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It's real. There are other pics too, some posted on this site. I shat bricks but it shouldn't have come as as surprise.
Maybe I should sell my soiled manties like Nasser? Genius? :D
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Uberman is probably right....he must have been sick and had to stop.
He almost died twice i recall..
Good thing Milos saved him.
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(http://www.exfl.com/bodybuilder_Mustafa-Mohammed.jpg)+
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351105;image)
he must have the test levels of a newborn nowadays.
Anyone notice the really long nail on the pinky finger? that's usually an indictation of using the nail to snort some kind of white powder.
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Anyone notice the really long nail on the pinky finger? that's usually an indictation of using the nail to snort some kind of white powder.
not always. some hispanics just do that for some reason. i know he's not hispanci
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I gotta say, he looked healthier and younger while training. I'd like to get in-touch with Mustafa and have him on OFF TOPIC Radio!
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How are you able to ask so many schmoe like questions aaron? I can barely hold up a convo with my dog let alone chat about thongs for 3 hours
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someone could post Tom Prince's before and after photos just for the sake of arguement...
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that dude's legs were like fucking oak trees...never seen anything like it.
Only ONE man had legs like an oak! >:( ;D
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if the photos were reversed in order, not one of you fucks would say that the skinny twink in the white tshirt could grow into mustafa of yesteryear.
genetics, pfft, give me a break.
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looks photoshopped, the left arm looks big
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351120;image)
He spilled under ???
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every man looks like that in the end.
but how many men can say they have walked the earth looking/feeling like he did in his prime?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351120;image)
He spilled under ???
Yes. He just needs to do some "last minute adjustments".
Read all of this:
You can't forget something you don't know...or do...
Mustafa DOESN'T need cardio ::) or low carbs ::)...
He knows his body very well...
He would show up in my gym 6 days before the Europa show with easily 15% body fat, double chin...and everything that goes with that (as a bonus package)...Than when we pull whatever miracle just so he doesn't completely embarrass himself on the stage - he would say that he is peaking for the Olympia...
In the mean time - he is doing pre Olympia shows as a warm up to get motivated for the big Mr. O.
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bump for Bob..
as the athletes rep..
bob should know the current status of Mustafa
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Great job Milos.
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MIND BLOWN :o
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh55/crazichica2289/GIFs/The%20Office/kevinqm3.gif)
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How are you able to ask so many schmoe like questions aaron? I can barely hold up a convo with my dog let alone chat about thongs for 3 hours
It takes practice... We're up to 50 shows this week (150 hours of radio)...
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not always. some hispanics just do that for some reason. i know he's not hispanci
That's not even his hand. He is shaking someones hand in that gay bodybuilder way.
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drugs make you big but do dont change the shape of your muscles.. if your shape is bad all drugs in the world wont help.. hope this helps :-X
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It takes practice... We're up to 50 shows this week (150 hours of radio)...
50 shows? Are you saying that altogether there are 50 shows in total? Pro Bodybuilding Weekly, After Hours Radio, Super Human Radio, etc?
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drugs make you big but do dont change the shape of your muscles.. if your shape is bad all drugs in the world wont help.. hope this helps :-X
yes and whats your point
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yes and whats your point
i was commenting on the title of the thread!!.. what is your problem :-X
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Not photoshopped.
If he looks like that now and is healthy and happy then fair play to him. Still, it can't be easy seeing former photos of yourself on the Olympia stage knowing you used to be one of the best in the world for your body alone.
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ITS IS PHOTOSHOPED. Look at his other arm for gods sake.
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haha i noticed that too, his other arm still has a big bicep.
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Hmm..I'm still saying no photoshop.
Even if it was photoshopped, his right arm still wouldn't be that much bigger - look at the size of his shoulder, tricep, forearm and wrist in comparison.
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Maybe his favorite bodypart to train is his left arm...
cant get over the "tiny" forearms... he used to have turkey breast like profundus...
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If thats how his upper body looks,just imagine how his legs must look now,from tree trunks to twigs.
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fucking depressing.
sooner or later something will come thru the grapvine.
curious as to what it was...
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christ on a cracker
I better go stock on shit this xmas
:o :o :o
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50 shows? Are you saying that altogether there are 50 shows in total? Pro Bodybuilding Weekly, After Hours Radio, Super Human Radio, etc?
50 episodes of OFF TOPIC Radio.
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ITS IS PHOTOSHOPED. Look at his other arm for gods sake.
also look at the arm hairs, they are gone in the upper arm before the sleeve. Not sure why these fucks at getbig are ignoring this fact that this is a photoshop.
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also look at the arm hairs, they are gone in the upper arm before the sleeve. Not sure why these fucks at getbig are ignoring this fact that this is a photoshop.
THIS PIC IS FROM THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF HIS GYM U STUPID FUCKS! U THINK HE UPPS PHOTOSHOPPED PICS OF HIMSELF AT HIS GYM HOMEPAGE!?!?!? ::)
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THIS PIC IS FROM THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF HIS GYM U STUPID FUCKS! U THINK HE UPPS PHOTOSHOPPED PICS OF HIMSELF AT HIS GYM HOMEPAGE!?!?!? ::)
Easy now Adolph. Post the fucking link.
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:'(
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:'(
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351214;image)
And all he kept were some brutal forearms and a lousy t-shirt
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;D
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Maybe he's in possession of the Ring of Power?
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THAT TOM PRINCE ,,bulked pic is brutal thickness all around,he could have been a good top 5 pro at every ironman,ny pro for yrs and top 10 olympia no doubt.tough choices he made and ashame he got sick.
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THAT TOM PRINCE ,,bulked pic is brutal thickness all around,he could have been a good top 5 pro at every ironman,ny pro for yrs and top 10 olympia no doubt.tough choices he made and ashame he got sick.
yup. there's a front double bicep pic from that guest posing too but i couldnt find it... he says he was 312lbs there and i believe it... anyone who ever saw him in person back then said he was a fucking brickhouse.
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haha i noticed that too, his other arm still has a big bicep.
maybe he only trains bicep on one arm?
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maybe he only trains bicep on one arm?
maybe he only jerks off with one arm?
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maybe he only jerks off with one arm?
That could be true since it's his left arm and he seems to be a Muslim
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also look at the arm hairs, they are gone in the upper arm before the sleeve. Not sure why these fucks at getbig are ignoring this fact that this is a photoshop.
So what? - my forearm hairs do the exact same thing and last time I looked in the mirror I wasn't photoshopped.
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So what? - my forearm hairs do the exact same thing and last time I looked in the mirror I wasn't photoshopped.
that's what you think...
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(http://flabbergastedly.com/wp-content/uploads/Makes%20no%20sense/Samurai%202.gif)
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;D
Talk about progress.
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;D :D
He can't even maintain a decent natural bodybuilder physique
Who was it that said "you maintain your gains up to the point of the natural limit, you never regress below that when you come off"
:D :D
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;D :D
He can't even maintain a decent natural bodybuilder physique
Who was it that said "you maintain your gains up to the point of the natural limit, you never regress below that when you come off"
:D :D
I think that was Lee Priest.
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Talk about progress.
So wheres tha link of the pic? ::)
Its only a good photoshop, nothing more.
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;D :D
He can't even maintain a decent natural bodybuilder physique
Who was it that said "you maintain your gains up to the point of the natural limit, you never regress below that when you come off"
:D :D
Well in all fairness, I think Mustafa either ran into health problems or just lost interest in training all together. I've seen huge, shredded bastards become born-again Christians and stop using juice. But they maintained a good deal of size afterwards. It's possible, but you lose the hardness and 3 dimensional look that only androgens will give you. You also won't find them being anywhere near conditioned.
That being said, Mustafa shrunk down to mega tiny tit status. Fucking insane devolution.
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if you dont eat much or train at all over a long period being a few years you will lose your size dont worry he would be able to gain 20 to 40 pounds back clean before needing any juice for the rest. I dont get whats so hard to understand hes not all drugs, hes just dropped his desire to train and be big, after a life of weighing close to 300 pounds actually weighing 180 and not struggling to wipe your arse walk long distances and not over eat all day is attractive to some.
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I am willing to bet he has a illness or medical condition that resulted in that type of atrophy, in that amount of time. That being said, I wish him well.
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if you dont eat much or train at all over a long period being a few years you will lose your size dont worry he would be able to gain 20 to 40 pounds back clean before needing any juice for the rest. I dont get whats so hard to understand hes not all drugs, hes just dropped his desire to train and be big, after a life of weighing close to 300 pounds actually weighing 180 and not struggling to wipe your arse walk long distances and not over eat all day is attractive to some.
Bullshit, We all know people who have never touched a weight in their life and look bigger than people who have trained for years....pure endomorphs.
The amount of atrophy MM displayed whether he eats or trains is the definition of "all drugs" aka hes nothing without them
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shocking
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Lots of hate in this thread. Come on guys, drugs are just 1% of the finished product and the other 99% is hard work.
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the wizard of truth once said:
"Many smaller bodybuilders say that the bigger bodybuilders are that way only because they take a lot of drugs. These simple minded and lost people don’t have a grasp on reality. Not everyone is genetically constructed so as to have the ideal mesomorph type of physique for bodybuilding. To get to the top of the pro ranks, you have to first have the genetics, and then the discipline and drive. Drugs won’t overcome genetics. Let me give you an example. You give a greyhound exactly the same amount of steroids as you give a rottweiler, but the rottweiler will always be bigger and more massive than the greyhound. It is just a biological fact"..
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OK, here's what I love about threads like this. First of all, Musclecenter's trying to be decent in his presentation... "Mr. & Mrs. Cutler in Thanksgiving Day." Ah...how sweet. Oh look, there's Jay, there's Kerry, Jay looks happy, Kerry looks great, sweet girl, standing by her man, aw, they're dancing...ah, yeah, the whole gang's there at Dave's store. Day after Thanksgiving, everyone's clowning around, wow, bodybuilding really is getting back some of it's comraderie, yeah, cool...continue to scroll down....
WHOA! WTF! LOOK AT TOM!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! ajhdgf;askdhg;asjdgh;asjfdgh;asljfgh;agh;aslfjgha;sljghasfljgkhas;fljgha;lfdjghas;dljghas;fdljghas;kfdljghas;lfdjghasfljghas;fdgjhas;lfgjhas;lgjhas;ljghas;fljhas;fdljhasfd;gljhas;fgljhasfd;gjhasf;gjhasf;gjahfdg;gh;
Oh so HERE'S the point of the thread!
Multiple pictures. Dave even takes some pictures after he has Tom make a wardrobe change, just to make sure we know how bad this is, just to make sure we know it wasn't the "shirt/shirts." LOL There's even one posted of Tom from the back/side, talking to the guys...no other relevance whatsoever, just "Tom from the side, he's haggard looking from any angle." Then Dave's like, "ha ha you guys never fail to disappoint, me and Bob "predicted" that the peanut gallery would have their say." ROFL Talk about epic foresight! ;D
But you do have to wonder why Tom would even agree to have his pics taken...yes, I'm sure he won't look at this thread. He's beyond gone; he knows he fucked up...but note that there are subtle subconscious forces in him that need to give us what he owes us...verification that he was no better than anyone else and was WRONG in many of his arrogant assumptions, as he must now KNOW he was.
"Tom knows," guys. Just leave it be.
ROFL!! ;D
Quite possibly the best post ever!
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the wizard of truth once said:
"Many smaller bodybuilders say that the bigger bodybuilders are that way only because they take a lot of drugs. These simple minded and lost people don’t have a grasp on reality. Not everyone is genetically constructed so as to have the ideal mesomorph type of physique for bodybuilding. To get to the top of the pro ranks, you have to first have the genetics, and then the discipline and drive. Drugs won’t overcome genetics. Let me give you an example. You give a greyhound exactly the same amount of steroids as you give a rottweiler, but the rottweiler will always be bigger and more massive than the greyhound. It is just a biological fact"..
I like Nasser and his physique but Kovacs talked about how much gear Nasser went through when they were living together and it was insane... and this is coming from Kovacs of all people who is another guy who seriously abused steroids and drugs in general. And that is a horrible comparison... comparing two different dog breeds to humans makes no sense... all men are not too different from one another in terms of genetics... the difference mostly is shape but anyone can get huge if enough time and dedication to training, nutrition, drugs is put in.
PS: Nasser was a fucking beanpole before he discovered hormones. There's some pic of him as an 18 or 19 year old and he's like 5'10 150lbs. He went from geek to freak.
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I like Nasser and his physique but Kovacs talked about how much gear Nasser went through when they were living together and it was insane... and this is coming from Kovacs of all people who is another guy who seriously abused steroids. And that is a horrible comparison... comparing two different dog breeds to humans makes no sense... all men are not too different from one another in terms of genetics... the difference mostly is shape but anyone can get huge if enough time and dedication to training, nutrition, drugs is put in.
but you can say that genetics of black ppl are not the same as asians or caucasians!!.. sure it's not exactly as comparing diff. breeds of dogs but still you can imagine what his point was!..
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but you can say that genetics of black ppl are not the same as asians or caucasians!!.. sure it's not exactly as comparing diff. breeds of dogs but still you can imagine what his point was!..
yeah i get what he's saying but the whole "can't turn a poddle into a pitbull" thing just doesn't really make as much sense as bob chick wished it did.
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yeah i get what he's saying but the whole "can't turn a poddle into a pitbull" thing just doesn't really make as much sense as bob chick wished it did.
lol.. as you know nasser always likes to give examples and put some jokes in his interviews or articles..
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lol.. as you know nasser always likes to give examples and put some jokes in his interviews or articles..
i would like to sit down for some sushi and discuss hormones with the wizard of truth
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Talk about progress.
im still waiting for the original link you little bitch.
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(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv238/salakazam/bodystep.jpg)
So 'trainer' shirts were 3 for $10 huh
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:D
Apparently if you stop eating and training completely it makes a difference too ::)
Drugs are obviously a huge part too though yes.
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Apparently if you stop eating and training completely it makes a difference too ::)
Drugs are obviously a huge part too though yes.
True, but people will always try to ignore it.
I speak from experience, without anything I was between 175-185 super lean, single percent bf year round at 6 feet tall. With some basic assistance 205 on stage and 215-225 off stage with relatively the same bf. Does huge wonders whether people like to admit it or not and I consider myself to have pretty good genetics as far as muscle shape is concerned. Right now I have been off of everything weighing 200 or so.
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no photoshop
(http://www.bodystep.at/fotos/5.jpg)
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http://www.bodystep.at/unsereteam.html
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv238/salakazam/bodystep.jpg)
Who wants to get trained by any of these ???
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People need to keep in mind that MOST bber's are short 5'4, 5'6 and the tallest being around 5'10 or 5'11 in modern era. Don't see much muscle being packed on on those frames naturally.
I consider big to be around 6 feet and above. Genetics are one thing, but for most average joes with average genetics give them access to the drugs these "elite," pros are on and they can be just as impressive, maybe not win pro show, but pretty close. There are lots of guys walking around with potential to be "elite," pros, but the general public could give two shits about turning pro and impressing male audiences. That and the amount of drugs it takes. Most however, would rather try to play pro football or basketball.
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The guy could have been Mr. Olympia...
I cant believe it, im pretty sure he had health problems, theres no other explanation.
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Did you know that around 1992 I was working out in a gym here in my hometown and there were a lot of pictures cut out from magazines plastured all over the wall. We used to look at one of Mustafa who was a top Jordanian and world amateur at that time for inspiration during leg day ?
Good times
here's a pic from that year of him
(http://www.primecutsbodybuildingdvds.com/images/dvd/V-077DVDLG.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GE5T5ycCX38/R8WI6IgKWxI/AAAAAAAACi8/ZQEL-1iwUuM/ATgAAAAxkqADFJA_SHywBVEODriW52lwaGLOYaOUgmbLl7HvvsYL22G_Xepk9cQ_4xpid7q_sDYtdDLYusZSWGWO8yP5AJtU9VC6UMST8q6kHkJleSZcLnyNI7W9RQ.jpg)
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Apparently if you stop eating and training completely it makes a difference too ::)
What? I thought these guys were genetic freaks who, without training, would still be head and shoulders above mere mortals.
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Did you know that around 1992 I was working out in a gym here in my hometown and there were a lot of pictures cut out from magazines plastured all over the wall. We used to look at one of Mustafa who was a top Jordanian and world amateur at that time for inspiration during leg day ?
Good times
here's a pic from that year of him
(http://www.primecutsbodybuildingdvds.com/images/dvd/V-077DVDLG.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GE5T5ycCX38/R8WI6IgKWxI/AAAAAAAACi8/ZQEL-1iwUuM/ATgAAAAxkqADFJA_SHywBVEODriW52lwaGLOYaOUgmbLl7HvvsYL22G_Xepk9cQ_4xpid7q_sDYtdDLYusZSWGWO8yP5AJtU9VC6UMST8q6kHkJleSZcLnyNI7W9RQ.jpg)
Its truly a shame he used to get screwed at any contest he entered. great bodybuilder.
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lol these guys cant even maintain a decent build.
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the wizard of truth once said:
"Many smaller bodybuilders say that the bigger bodybuilders are that way only because they take a lot of drugs. These simple minded and lost people don’t have a grasp on reality. Not everyone is genetically constructed so as to have the ideal mesomorph type of physique for bodybuilding. To get to the top of the pro ranks, you have to first have the genetics, and then the discipline and drive. Drugs won’t overcome genetics. Let me give you an example. You give a greyhound exactly the same amount of steroids as you give a rottweiler, but the rottweiler will always be bigger and more massive than the greyhound. It is just a biological fact"..
i like that,,,,good post
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lol these guys cant even maintain a decent build.
mars whats your training routine? :)
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lol these guys cant even maintain a decent build.
or maybe they don't give a fuck
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mesomorph/ectomorph/endomorph = BULLSHIT.
most people would have put Palumbo into the Ectomorph catergory back when he was a teenage runner, then he blew up to 280lbs with abs on drugs and people would say hes mesomorph.
these body type groups are horse shit, the only thing that really makes a difference is insertion points, bone shape, response to drugs.
Everyone has roughly the same potential to put on muscle naturally if they have normal hormone levels.
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People need to keep in mind that MOST bber's are short 5'4, 5'6 and the tallest being around 5'10 or 5'11 in modern era. Don't see much muscle being packed on on those frames naturally.
I consider big to be around 6 feet and above. Genetics are one thing, but for most average joes with average genetics give them access to the drugs these "elite," pros are on and they can be just as impressive, maybe not win pro show, but pretty close. There are lots of guys walking around with potential to be "elite," pros, but the general public could give two shits about turning pro and impressing male audiences. That and the amount of drugs it takes. Most however, would rather try to play pro football or basketball.
good stuff ryan...dead on and realistic ,,and at least u understand the difference between being a good built gym guy /novice competitior and using for that level and trying to be a pro or aspiring and taking everything under the sun.good perspective bro.and yes u have good natural muscle shape,thats a bonus bro...
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good stuff ryan...dead on and realistic ,,and at least u understand the difference between being a good built gym guy /novice competitior and using for that level and trying to be a pro or aspiring and taking everything under the sun.good perspective bro.and yes u have good natural muscle shape,thats a bonus bro...
yes i think it was a good post and i have written the same thing on here several times. i know people who wouldnt be over 160-170lbs in good shape who via drugs carry 220-230lbs. these guys are very impressive thanks to drugs but without they would be average joes. yes drug response is important for elite bodybuilders and so i muscle shape but even if you dont have the best muscle shape or the best drug response...drugs will make a huge difference and people will be VERY impressed by even a juiced up average joe (and think he has super genetics lol)...specially if he is smart about his drug use, training and nutrition (drugs can make you grown without training..but hard and smart training will make the drugs work even better)
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mesomorph/ectomorph/endomorph = BULLSHIT.
most people would have put Palumbo into the Ectomorph catergory back when he was a teenage runner, then he blew up to 280lbs with abs on drugs and people would say hes mesomorph.
these body type groups are horse shit, the only thing that really makes a difference is insertion points, bone shape, response to drugs.
Everyone has roughly the same potential to put on muscle naturally if they have normal hormone levels.
agreed, and even if you naturally have high testosterone levels and in other ways have super genetics you will be MILES away from the really huge drugged up physiques.
people also have to remember when they compare naturals to each other you have to take into account body fat level. as naturals can get real strong and big when carrying alot of fat..but when they diet down to low body fat levels..things change. ;)
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agreed, and even if you naturally have high testosterone levels and in other ways have super genetics you will be MILES away from the really huge drugged up physiques.
people also have to remember when they compare naturals to each other you have to take into account body fat level. as naturals can get real strong and big when carrying alot of fat..but when they diet down to low body fat levels..things change. ;)
BUT as natural u could still pull it off,8/10 pct bf ok under 5 or so it gets dicey like u said.
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What? I thought these guys were genetic freaks who, without training, would still be head and shoulders above mere mortals.
thats a genetic freak like Coleman
Mustafa, i can guarantee, if he was to restart drug and training would blow up to his previous size etc within a few months- superiro genetic responder to drugs
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thats a genetic freak like Coleman
Mustafa, i can guarantee, if he was to restart drug and training would blow up to his previous size etc within a few months- superiro genetic responder to drugs
Not so much anymore, most likely will drop dead if he decides to go that route given most likely he has health issues.
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Damn, I never ever want to stop lifting, ever, must truly fuck with your head psychologically!
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Mustafa was a phenomenal athlete.
Probably retired from the sport on his own terms, with a great pension and health care coverage from bodybuilding.
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no photoshop
(http://www.bodystep.at/fotos/5.jpg)
BEAST!!!
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so he stopped training. who cares?
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so he stopped training. who cares?
His Mustafa.
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wasnt Garraeth a big Mustafa fan?
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Most guys on here will believe in whatever they want to believe to make themselves feel better about their own shitty genetics.
How about taking into consideration.
Does he for size (6-10times a day), do you honestly think if he went down to 2 meals a day he would not shrink.
Does he train for size?
You honestly believe if you MMA fighter or boxer stops his training and starts smoking and eating bad everyday for months on that they would not change?
I'm not saying drugs did not play huge roll on how he looked as a pro but at the same time no amount of drugs will make you look like he did without day to day hard training and eating a lot.
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True, but people will always try to ignore it.
I speak from experience, without anything I was between 175-185 super lean, single percent bf year round at 6 feet tall. With some basic assistance 205 on stage and 215-225 off stage with relatively the same bf. Does huge wonders whether people like to admit it or not and I consider myself to have pretty good genetics as far as muscle shape is concerned. Right now I have been off of everything weighing 200 or so.
I dunno man, I see what you're saying, I think it's pretty easy to be over 200lb without juice at 6ft, even Hugh Jackman manages that, but yeah 250lb+ is obviously impossible at that condition without gear.
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Guys, Wake up, not him.....