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Title: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 14, 2009, 05:19:52 PM
Its seems that Doctors these days, are telling people to take Ultram,-Tramadol because its non narcotic, and non habit forming,lol.Please tell that to a Good friend of mine, and a nurse friend of mine who were so hooked on it, they couldn't get off of it.Now I know Pain Killers like Loritabs, Percosets, and oxycotons have become and epidemicThere are so many people hooked on pain killers it is actually showing up in our water!!! Thats right.People are taking so much medication that its showing up in our water system!!!!!
 
.Now back to Tramadol-Ultram ,Ultracet its seems that alot of people are now finding out that this so-called non narcotic pain killer can be just as addictive.If you look at the chemical structure and how Ultram works in the body, it acts like a narcotic pain killer, but they don't consider it narcotic.The problem is Dr's Gets pushed by the drug reps who tell them how great this non narcotic pain killer is...The problem is Ultram is just as habit forming as Loritabs, and have just as bad of withdrawals.
If you don't believe me look up Ultram Addiction....Its everywhere.Nothing will ruin your life faster then addiction!!!!
Thank god I have never been addicted to anything, but there are some people who are less fortunate.So fellas, if a Dr's prescribes you Ultram, or Tramadol, and tells you its not habit forming, hand him the prescription back and say, no thank you.
I know this has nothing to do with bodybuilding, but alot of bodybuilders start with pain killers, then they graduate to Nubaine.This is an unfortunate addiction that ruined bodybuilders life, like Eric Fromm.....May he rest in Peace.......
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: TrapsMcLats on December 14, 2009, 05:27:55 PM
I've never felt it give me a buzz or anything like vicodin, but it does a fantastic job at killing pain, much better than vicodin, percoset, or similar.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: benchmstr on December 14, 2009, 05:31:04 PM
i was on tramadol for 6 months for a clinical sleep study. when the study was over i stopped taking them and had no want for them.....my friend on the other hand is fully addicted to tramadol and begs his doctor for the shit.

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Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2009, 05:37:39 PM
music is the medicin

Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: benchmstr on December 14, 2009, 05:39:46 PM
bad medicine ;D



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Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: YoungBlood on December 14, 2009, 05:40:27 PM
There are so many people hooked on pain killers it is actually showing up in our water!!! Thats right.People are taking so much medication that its showing up in our water system!!!!!
 


How is that possible, and why would people taking pain killers make it show up in our water system?

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: che on December 14, 2009, 05:42:30 PM
Painkillers are for pussies.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Overload on December 14, 2009, 05:48:38 PM
I know 2 guys who were addicted to it for a long time.

They told me 100mg of Tramadol will make your dick numb and make you fuck like a pornstar.

I was given some years ago and it didn't seem to give much of a high, but it did dull pain well.

8)
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 14, 2009, 05:57:03 PM
I know a guy who used a couple of grams a day and claimed he wasn't addicted and could stop any time. Probably still addicted to the stuff. And when you take more than 400mg per day there's a big chance of seizures. The addicts use benzos to counteract the seizures, so they are really addicted to 2 classes of drugs which are a bitch to get off of. The guy I know has had many seizures causing different injuries.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 14, 2009, 06:02:16 PM
Youngblood, The reason for this  is the water you use goes down the drain and is cleaned,and  treated at a water treatment plant .Then it goes back into the water supply .It is pretty sick because they just basically just add chlorine to it ....Thats why I don't drink tap water........Anyways  they did a test and they found trace amounts of pain killers, and Antidepressants, in the water system in big cities, like Las Vegas, San Francisco, and New York
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: lovemonkey on December 14, 2009, 06:07:42 PM
I got a script for tramadol once when I had a nasty ass infected ingrown toe nail. It hurt pretty bad and still did even when I took the meds. So I only took it twice and never again. Back then I had no clue how potentially addictive tramadol is and I wish the fuckin doctor had told me. Epic risking getting hooked on opiates for a fucking ingrown toe nail LMAO
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Necrosis on December 14, 2009, 06:09:34 PM
Youngblood, The reason for this  is the water you use goes down the drain and is cleaned,and  treated at a water treatment plant .Then it goes back into the water supply .It is pretty sick because they just basically just add chlorine to it ....Thats why I don't drink tap water........Anyways  they did a test and they found trace amounts of pain killers, and Antidepressants, in the water system in big cities, like Las Vegas, San Francisco, and New York

you are a moron, sorry.

you can't even spell the names of the drugs correctly, over and over again.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 14, 2009, 06:15:01 PM
Van, they suggest the maximum dosage is 400mg per day.That would be 8-50 mg pills per day, which to me seems like alot.I guess they now have 200 mg time released Ultram.The problem with Ultram is it interferes with antidepressants and can cause Serotonin Syndrome, which can kill you .The problem is a person goes to one doctor to get antidepressants, then goes a diffrent Doctor for there Ultram.Most people are to ashamed to say they are taking a SUI, Serotonin uptake inhibitor.Little do they know that lil secret could be deadly
I know that there is a medication called Gabapentin that will stop the interaction between the drugs,, but I personally would just avoid the medication all together.
Think about this, 400mg a day is the maximum dosage.That is 8-50mg pills a day.I don't know about you, but 8 pills a day of even aspirin is high.I have seen a nurse, and a good friend get so strung out on Ultram, they both had to check into rehab.....
For a non narcotic pain killer????????
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: YoungBlood on December 14, 2009, 06:20:44 PM
Youngblood, The reason for this  is the water you use goes down the drain and is cleaned,and  treated at a water treatment plant .Then it goes back into the water supply .It is pretty sick because they just basically just add chlorine to it ....Thats why I don't drink tap water........Anyways  they did a test and they found trace amounts of pain killers, and Antidepressants, in the water system in big cities, like Las Vegas, San Francisco, and New York


I'm still wondering how it gets into the water system to begin with. I get addicted to the stuff, then I drink from a cup, pour the rest down the drain and then it runs back into the system and voila~ into the water system it is? ???

Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 14, 2009, 06:28:00 PM
Van, they suggest the maximum dosage is 400mg per day.That would be 8-50 mg pills per day, which to me seems like alot.I guess they now have 200 mg time released Ultram.The problem with Ultram is it interferes with antidepressants and can cause Serotonin Syndrome, which can kill you .The problem is a person goes to one doctor to get antidepressants, then goes a diffrent Doctor for there Ultram.Most people are to ashamed to say they are taking a SUI, Serotonin uptake inhibitor.Little do they know that lil secret could be deadly
I know that there is a medication called Gabapentin that will stop the interaction between the drugs,, but I personally would just avoid the medication all together.
Think about this, 400mg a day is the maximum dosage.That is 8-50mg pills a day.I don't know about you, but 8 pills a day of even aspirin is high.I have seen a nurse, and a good friend get so strung out on Ultram, they both had to check into rehab.....
For a non narcotic pain killer????????

Tramadol itself inhibits the reuptake of serotonin.

The guy I talked about was on gabapentin as well, along with all manner of benzos. Rohypnol, Valium, Xanax, anything he could get. Still didn't stop the seizures. Of course he was taking a lot of Tramadol, prescribed pills along with illicit powder Tramadol. It didn't use to be scheduled here, but is now AFAIK, due to the rampant abuse.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: dyslexic on December 14, 2009, 06:45:09 PM
I believe someone was trying to imply that so many people ingest these drugs, that the excess comes out into the urine and into our water-- the fact of the matter is; since the drugs like vic, perc, oxy, etc. are so extremely addictive, sometimes people get in that mood where they just want to throw them away.


The toilet for most, seems like the best choice, so they flush em. That way they will be less likely (or able) to go diggin for them when their minds change (which is usually after the drug has worn off)


Oh well. Doesnt mean you can get an oxy high by drinking tap water in a big city.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: benchmstr on December 14, 2009, 06:47:45 PM
I believe someone was trying to imply that so many people ingest these drugs, that the excess comes out into the urine and into our water-- the fact of the matter is; since the drugs like vic, perc, oxy, etc. are so extremely addictive, sometimes people get in that mood where they just want to throw them away.


The toilet for most, seems like the best choice, so they flush em. That way they will be less likely (or able) to go diggin for them when their minds change (which is usually after the drug has worn off)


Oh well. Doesnt mean you can get an oxy high by drinking tap water in a big city.

or..knock..knock..."is that the po-po?".....flush.

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Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: dyslexic on December 14, 2009, 06:54:58 PM
Or that... ;D
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: benchmstr on December 14, 2009, 06:56:44 PM
Or that... ;D
some people are very paranoid when they are on that shit ;)

bench
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 14, 2009, 07:46:33 PM
To answer the tap water question.People are consuming so much pain medication that there body isn't absorbing all of the medication, therefore they urinate it out.This is how it is getting into the water system.You guys have no idea how bad prescription medication abuse is.If you knew you would be shocked.I have a friend of mine who is an addiction therapist.....He says its no common for a girl who weighs 120lbs to come into his office claiming to take 20-30 loritabs a day, sometimes more.Do you realize that if those Loritabs have 500mg of Tylenol combined with the Opiate, that 10-15 grams of Tylenol a day.They say 5 grams of Tylenol can be toxic, anymore can be fatal...This Doctor has told me he has had patients that have taken 50 and even 100 Loritabs per day.I said you got to be kidding, he looked me in the eyes, and said,...I wish I was.
He is the one who has also told me about the Ultram push now.....He says, now Doctors are pushing Ultram, and now he has to get them off of Ultram after these doctors get them hooked.
You want to hear something funny???? He had a nurse who came to him with a major addiction.....Guess what it was?  ....Ambien,lol.
This crazy ass female nurse was taking 30 Ambien per day, and functioning, lol.She was a good looking nurse so she had docs writing her prescriptions.I cant even take 1 Ambien, and function.This chic was taking 30, and working, lol.
She is really really lucky she didn't go into a coma.....lol
If you want to hear wild stories, befriend an addiction doctor......He wont say names because its confidential, but alot of his patients are nurses and doctors., lol.
He had teacher who was huffing 20 cans of the computer air duster that you buy at an office supply to get dust out of your keyboard,,lol.He would do this while teaching kids, lol......
God people are crazy these days huh???? lol
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: 240 is Back on December 14, 2009, 07:47:51 PM
man, i haven't had a real painkiller in like 4 or 5 years.  it was one vicodin for some back injury, and I fell asleep in like 90 seconds.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: benchmstr on December 14, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
To answer the tap water question.People are consuming so much pain medication that there body isn't absorbing all of the medication, therefore they urinate it out.This is how it is getting into the water system.You guys have no idea how bad prescription medication abuse is.If you knew you would be shocked.I have a friend of mine who is an addiction therapist.....He says its no common for a girl who weighs 120lbs to come into his office claiming to take 20-30 loritabs a day, sometimes more.Do you realize that if those Loritabs have 500mg of Tylenol combined with the Opiate, that 10-15 grams of Tylenol a day.They say 5 grams of Tylenol can be toxic, anymore can be fatal...This Doctor has told me he has had patients that have taken 50 and even 100 Loritabs per day.I said you got to be kidding, he looked me in the eyes, and said,...I wish I was.
He is the one who has also told me about the Ultram push now.....He says, now Doctors are pushing Ultram, and now he has to get them off of You want to hear something funny???? He had a nurse who came to him with a major addiction.....Guess what it was?  ....Ambien,lol.
This cUltram after these doctors get them hooked.
razy ass female nurse was taking 30 Ambien per day, and functioning, lol.She was a good looking nurse so she had docs writing her prescriptions.I cant even take 1 Ambien, and function.This chic was taking 30, and working, lol.
She is really really lucky she didn't go into a coma.....lol
If you want to hear wild stories, befriend an addiction doctor......He wont say names because its confidential, but alot of his patients are nurses and doctors., lol.
He had teacher who was huffing 20 cans of the computer air duster that you buy at an office supply to get dust out of your keyboard,,lol.He would do this while teaching kids, lol......
God people are crazy these days huh???? lol
if you prescribe me ambien, you might as well prescribe me ephedra...ambien amps me up to the point where i have to go to the gym!!!

bench
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: claymore on December 14, 2009, 08:21:55 PM
Painkillers are for pussies.

Agreed
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: benchmstr on December 14, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
Agreed
x2

bench
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: temper35 on December 14, 2009, 08:26:43 PM
I've had a script for Tramadol because of a back issue for 3-4 years now.  I take them randomly when I need them.  30 pills probably lasts me months.

GetItOnWithGuYs is dumb, and the only person who would make a thread to say that if you abuse a drug it is bad for you.  WOW REALLY?  hahahaha
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 14, 2009, 08:37:46 PM
Temper your an idiot! There are some people who go to the Doctor, get a prescription of Ultram, or Tramadol, and think its non narcotic and non habit forming.....Thats until they try to get off of it, 3-6 months later.I know a lot of people who when they get injured stay on prescription medication for several months.Before they know it when they don't take the medication, they feel sick, have the runs,.and cant sleep.Because no one told them they prescription medication is very addictive.I have known at least 50 people who got hooked on Ambien, Xanax,Loritabs,OXY'S,Perc's, and even Prozac.Most people don't know this but if you stop taking any of the medications I mentioned after just taking them 2 months you will have nasty withdrawals.I had a friend of mine who was depressed stopped taking cymbalta because it was making him nervous.When he stopped taking it he had such bad panic attacks he went to the hospital because he thought he was having a heart attack.The bottom line is Americans are over medicated
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: temper35 on December 14, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
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Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: benchmstr on December 14, 2009, 08:58:43 PM
(http://memegenerator.net/Instances/184/Insanity-Wolf-TRAMADOL-KILLS-PEOPLE.jpg)
hahahahahahaaa i think i just shit myself cause i was laughing so hard ;D

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Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: pluck on December 14, 2009, 09:17:06 PM
Getitonwithguys is a dumbfuck.
I work in a pharmacy & know enough about this stuff to say this tool is very misinformed.

People can get addicted to coffee, video games, sex, Tylenol...etc. Tramadol is just another one to add to the list. It is NOT an epidemic. 
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: YoungBlood on December 14, 2009, 09:23:02 PM
To answer the tap water question.People are consuming so much pain medication that there body isn't absorbing all of the medication, therefore they urinate it out.This is how it is getting into the water system.


So then all of us are ingesting water that has been shit in, vomited and such? ::)

Interesting thought. I'll hope that the water is spiked with good drugs like Ultram, that way I'll be desensitized to knowing I'm also drinking your shit water GetItOnNy.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 14, 2009, 10:37:26 PM
Pluck so you work in a Pharmacy? So you know that Ultram can cause seizures? Did you know that Ultram can cause Serotonin Syndrome if used with SUI'S. That can cause death?.
The problem with not Ultram, its the fact that they push it as a non habit forming non narcotic pain killer.This is why people let there guard down when they take it, and it opens the door for addiction.The friend I knew who was addicted to it was a Mormon and never had a drink or did anything his entire life at 35 years old.He was prescribed Ultram and could not come off of them.If this post saves one person from become addicted to Ultram, or stops them from abusing Ultram, I will feel good about posting this.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Necrosis on December 15, 2009, 10:11:08 AM
Van, they suggest the maximum dosage is 400mg per day.That would be 8-50 mg pills per day, which to me seems like alot.I guess they now have 200 mg time released Ultram.The problem with Ultram is it interferes with antidepressants and can cause Serotonin Syndrome, which can kill you .The problem is a person goes to one doctor to get antidepressants, then goes a diffrent Doctor for there Ultram.Most people are to ashamed to say they are taking a SUI, Serotonin uptake inhibitor.Little do they know that lil secret could be deadly
I know that there is a medication called Gabapentin that will stop the interaction between the drugs,, but I personally would just avoid the medication all together.
Think about this, 400mg a day is the maximum dosage.That is 8-50mg pills a day.I don't know about you, but 8 pills a day of even aspirin is high.I have seen a nurse, and a good friend get so strung out on Ultram, they both had to check into rehab.....
For a non narcotic pain killer????????

You are a MORON!!!!!

gabapentin will not stop the interaction between the drugs, it does not affect serotonergic transmission, you have no idea what you are saying.

Secondly. WTF is a SUI, is it similar to an SUV but better?


"Most people are to ashamed to say they are taking a SUI, Serotonin uptake inhibitor.Little do they know that lil secret could be deadly"

its an SRI, or as classical called, although wrong an SSRI. it blocks RE-uptake, not uptake.

Keep posting, its like fucking comical relief to see you giving out advice.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Necrosis on December 15, 2009, 10:14:11 AM
To answer the tap water question.People are consuming so much pain medication that there body isn't absorbing all of the medication, therefore they urinate it out.This is how it is getting into the water system.


dont let me discourage you , keep going.

Again this is incorrect do you know anything about first pass metabolism? well the drugs go into the body and they come out in most cases as metabolites, or waste products. They are not the same, most of the time they are inactivated by-products. Also, you are suggesting we are drinking urine and crap? do you know anything about water treatment?


Like i said keep going.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Grape Ape on December 15, 2009, 10:18:26 AM
There is now a generic equivalent available for Ultram, which will provde higher margin rates to retailers, while simultaneously lowering cost to the consumer.  It's a win-win.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Necrosis on December 15, 2009, 10:20:26 AM
Pluck so you work in a Pharmacy? So you know that Ultram can cause seizures? Did you know that Ultram can cause Serotonin Syndrome if used with SUI'S. That can cause death?.
The problem with not Ultram, its the fact that they push it as a non habit forming non narcotic pain killer.This is why people let there guard down when they take it, and it opens the door for addiction.The friend I knew who was addicted to it was a Mormon and never had a drink or did anything his entire life at 35 years old.He was prescribed Ultram and could not come off of them.If this post saves one person from become addicted to Ultram, or stops them from abusing Ultram, I will feel good about posting this.


OMG it can cause seizures? OMG so can wellbutrin a popular NRT and anti-depressant. OMG combining drugs may have adverse effects? holy shit thanks dude, i bet tylenol and alcohol mix well. Did you know that drinking your face off and taking clonazepam can kill you? It is not pushed as a non-narcotic painkiller, look at the studies, the withdrawal is mild if not abused and taken within range and tapered. Did you know that xanax can cause seizures if you take it for a while and aburptly stop it? Your right, medicines if abused have negatives, and there are contra indication, so what.... dont be such a moron. ITS FUCKING SRI, keep going.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 15, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
Haha this guy is a fucking moron.  I'm sorry but I'm an RN and I dole out xanax, restoril, ambien, ativan, percs, vics, ultram, haldol, blah blah blah.  ANY FUCKING PERSON who takes 30 ambien pills would be in a coma.  LMAO! 
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 15, 2009, 10:40:59 AM
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......Have you read some of the threads, on people who addicted to Ultram?????...It ruined there lives.The same thing with xanax, people think oh this will take away my anxiety, but little do they know when they stop taking the medication there anxiety will be worse, because they will be in withdrawal.
For you guys who call me an moron, why don't you watch the show Intervention on TV.....Then tell me how much of a moron I am.All the people on that show were normal happy people living a great life, until they tried a drug, or a prescription drug, now there lives and there families lives are ruined.
For callling me a moron for warning people about prescription drugs, and how addictive they are shows how ignorant you are.
If your and RN, and the Other GUY works in A Pharmacy, you guys would see how strung out people get from prescription medication.Did you know that pain killers and prescription medication abuse is so and right now its become a epidemic????????The rise in prescription medication has grow to staggering numbers.
It has gotten so bad, that they had one lady on a show would go to open houses, and garage sales just so she could get into peoples medicine cabinets to see if they had any pain killers.......
GO ahead call me a moron, just watch the show intervention, and see what addiction does to people.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Necrosis on December 15, 2009, 10:53:05 AM
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......Have you read some of the threads, on people who addicted to Ultram?????...It ruined there lives.The same thing with xanax, people think oh this will take away my anxiety, but little do they know when they stop taking the medication there anxiety will be worse, because they will be in withdrawal.
For you guys who call me an moron, why don't you watch the show Intervention on TV.....Then tell me how much of a moron I am.All the people on that show were normal happy people living a great life, until they tried a drug, or a prescription drug, now there lives and there families lives are ruined.
For callling me a moron for warning people about prescription drugs, and how addictive they are shows how ignorant you are.
If your and RN, and the Other GUY works in A Pharmacy, you guys would see how strung out people get from prescription medication.Did you know that pain killers and prescription medication abuse is so and right now its become a epidemic????????The rise in prescription medication has grow to staggering numbers.
It has gotten so bad, that they had one lady on a show would go to open houses, and garage sales just so she could get into peoples medicine cabinets to see if they had any pain killers.......
GO ahead call me a moron, just watch the show intervention, and see what addiction does to people.

um alot of things are addiciting if the patients do not take the medication properly what can we do? We know xanax is addictive, the opiates are addictive etc... its fucking common knowledge. You are not informing anyone, and you have displayed terrible ignorance by routinely citing wrong information and downright lies, like ultram in the fucking water.

Im not doubting addiction, i have taken k-pins for three years now responsible, no side effects, no addiction, no more then twice a week, no more then 1mg which is more important. Its that you have really no idea about medicine and these drugs save lives, end of story. If people abuse them then they reap the fucking rewards of the abuse, like anything in life. If someone is crippled in pain, with bone cancer, are we worried about addiction or quality of life?

You are not saying anything novel and the message is terrible as you are literally clueless, SUI's, gabapentin stops SS, drinking water, its fucking comical.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2009, 11:31:19 AM
Getitonwithguys is a dumbfuck.
I work in a pharmacy & know enough about this stuff to say this tool is very misinformed.

People can get addicted to coffee, video games, sex, Tylenol...etc. Tramadol is just another one to add to the list. It is NOT an epidemic. 
But, what is a epidemic is all the people addicted to oxy, Vic, etc. And theytry and pass fraudulent scripts, or pretend that they are docs to okay a script, or shoplift and pawn the items to feed their addiction. I see tons of them. One guy climbed thru the ceiling of a supermarket and dropped down into the pharmacy, got what he needed and climbed back up. He was seen in the warehouse section, in the rafters like he was spiderman. If you live near a Pawnshop, go in one, you might see China sets or tablesets that have belonged in the family for years and have been passed down, chances are they were pawned off by a addict.

It's sad now that supermarkets have cameras now in the toothpaste and men's shaving section, even having those goods locked up in glass front cages. All because addicts steal these and pawn them, and these are some of the favorite items---along with frozen shrimp.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: YoungBlood on December 15, 2009, 11:34:20 AM
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......

Oh, so that is the secret to not becoming addicted to a pain killer- not letting your guard down? And all these years I thought it was because people have chemical dependencies and become reliant on them.

Who would have thought it was just because they let their guard down...had they kept it up, Mike Tyson AND Ultram would be fought off in one fell swoop!!! ::)

You are an idiot. You prove to be over and over again. It's never a one time thing, or a mistake, but shit like this where you just speak out of your ass over and over and over, you prove that you and MattT should be butt buddies.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: temper35 on December 15, 2009, 02:48:21 PM
There is nothing like a former steroid abuser who trains steroid abusers and is friends with steroid abusers and sells steroids over the counter via a loophole trying to tell people that Tramadol is bad for you, haha.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Krankenstein on December 15, 2009, 02:52:01 PM
There is nothing like a former steroid abuser who trains steroid abusers and is friends with steroid abusers and sells steroids over the counter via a loophole trying to tell people that Tramadol is bad for you, haha.

Dont you have a dog to take to the vet or something?  Have you EVER posted something worthwhile douche drinker?
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: temper35 on December 15, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
Dont you have a dog to take to the vet or something?  Have you EVER posted something worthwhile douche drinker?

My dog is healthy, he stays away from Ultram.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Necrosis on December 15, 2009, 03:23:01 PM
My dog is healthy, he stays away from Ultram.

LOL, it's funny because he does abuse steriods and over drugs and does inform others on how to abuse steriods. LMAO.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 15, 2009, 03:24:33 PM
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......Have you read some of the threads, on people who addicted to Ultram?????...It ruined there lives.The same thing with xanax, people think oh this will take away my anxiety, but little do they know when they stop taking the medication there anxiety will be worse, because they will be in withdrawal.
For you guys who call me an moron, why don't you watch the show Intervention on TV.....Then tell me how much of a moron I am.All the people on that show were normal happy people living a great life, until they tried a drug, or a prescription drug, now there lives and there families lives are ruined.
For callling me a moron for warning people about prescription drugs, and how addictive they are shows how ignorant you are.
If your and RN, and the Other GUY works in A Pharmacy, you guys would see how strung out people get from prescription medication.Did you know that pain killers and prescription medication abuse is so and right now its become a epidemic????????The rise in prescription medication has grow to staggering numbers.
It has gotten so bad, that they had one lady on a show would go to open houses, and garage sales just so she could get into peoples medicine cabinets to see if they had any pain killers.......
GO ahead call me a moron, just watch the show intervention, and see what addiction does to people.

You're right about pain killers.  My point was regarding ambien.  Anyone who takes 30 ambien pills would be seriously fucked up. 
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Jizzacked on December 15, 2009, 03:49:21 PM
I still haven't seen anyone answer the most important question to this whole debate....

just how high does this stuff get you?  must be pretty sweet for people to be getting so hopelessly addicted to it.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on December 15, 2009, 03:53:43 PM
Getitonwithguys is a dumbfuck.
I work in a pharmacy & know enough about this stuff to say this tool is very misinformed.

People can get addicted to coffee, video games, sex, Tylenol...etc. Tramadol is just another one to add to the list. It is NOT an epidemic. 

Why is he misinformed?

The US have a major overmedicalisation problem:
- factor 1: the prevalent 'quick fix' mentality in the US, a pill for everything.
- factor 2: the pharmaceuticals aggressive pushing of all kinds of drugs on even the most benign of symptoms.
- factor 3: the often addictive nature of these drugs.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: pluck on December 15, 2009, 03:56:34 PM
FYI -frequent consumption of alcohol in large quantities is not good for you.

P.S.

Smoking cigarettes has been linked to lung cancer.
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: pluck on December 15, 2009, 04:02:46 PM
Why is he misinformed?

The US have a major overmedicalisation problem:
- factor 1: the prevalent 'quick fix' mentality in the US, a pill for everything.
- factor 2: the pharmaceuticals aggressive pushing of all kinds of drugs on even the most benign of symptoms.
- factor 3: the often addictive nature of these drugs.


Jesus...here it goes again. Ok, give SPECIFIC examples to support your "factors". You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Here are some more factors:

Factor 1- The British have bad teeth
Factor 2- Europeans drive tiny cars
Factor 3- BBC is lame
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 15, 2009, 04:09:42 PM
There is nothing like a former steroid abuser who trains steroid abusers and is friends with steroid abusers and sells steroids over the counter via a loophole trying to tell people that Tramadol is bad for you, haha.
Hi Van
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Wiggs on December 15, 2009, 04:16:40 PM
To answer the tap water question.People are consuming so much pain medication that there body isn't absorbing all of the medication, therefore they urinate it out.This is how it is getting into the water system.You guys have no idea how bad prescription medication abuse is.If you knew you would be shocked.I have a friend of mine who is an addiction therapist.....He says its no common for a girl who weighs 120lbs to come into his office claiming to take 20-30 loritabs a day, sometimes more.Do you realize that if those Loritabs have 500mg of Tylenol combined with the Opiate, that 10-15 grams of Tylenol a day.They say 5 grams of Tylenol can be toxic, anymore can be fatal...This Doctor has told me he has had patients that have taken 50 and even 100 Loritabs per day.I said you got to be kidding, he looked me in the eyes, and said,...I wish I was.
He is the one who has also told me about the Ultram push now.....He says, now Doctors are pushing Ultram, and now he has to get them off of Ultram after these doctors get them hooked.
You want to hear something funny???? He had a nurse who came to him with a major addiction.....Guess what it was?  ....Ambien,lol.
This crazy ass female nurse was taking 30 Ambien per day, and functioning, lol.She was a good looking nurse so she had docs writing her prescriptions.I cant even take 1 Ambien, and function.This chic was taking 30, and working, lol.
She is really really lucky she didn't go into a coma.....lol
If you want to hear wild stories, befriend an addiction doctor......He wont say names because its confidential, but alot of his patients are nurses and doctors., lol.
He had teacher who was huffing 20 cans of the computer air duster that you buy at an office supply to get dust out of your keyboard,,lol.He would do this while teaching kids, lol......
God people are crazy these days huh???? lol

I know how bad it is...When you have dumbfucks out there willing to pay $8.50 for a 10mg/500mg Vicodin that says alot...Not to mention $60-$80 for an 80mg oxy....oh brother... ::) SICKOS
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: GetItOnNY on December 15, 2009, 06:38:52 PM
Wiggs, your right!!!!! Amen!!! My point of this thread wasn't to bash anybody just inform people.My friend who got hooked on Ultram, was a Mormon guy, never drank never smoked, and never been buzzed his whole life.He married his first gf and didn't have sex until they were married, at 19.
So this guy was as straight as an arrow.Well he went to tie his shoe one day, and hurt his back so bad, he couldn't even walk.So he goes to the Doctor, and the Dr writes him a prescription for Loritabs, he tells the doctor I cant take those I am a Mormon.So the Dr writes him a prescription for Ultram.Needless to say he got hooked so bad he couldn't even function without them.He became a full blown addict.
Now addiction is a very ugly thing.I bet if you asked a addict, one question they would all have the same answer.If you knew how addictive this drug your taking was would you have ever taken it in the first place? I bet 10 out of 10 would say no.
Just look at cigarettes, people smoke them to be cool and fit in.There are new studies showing its in some cases harder to get off of cigarettes then it is to get off of Heroine.
I know my mother tried to quit smoking for 10 years, and after stage 4 brain and lung Cancer she finally did.But before that she couldn't quit.
I started this post to just inform people about how addictive this non narcotic pain medication can be.
You will be surprised how naive people are when it comes to addiction.There is a big difference between just having a bad habit, and having a full blown addiction.
There is literally an epidemic for the misuse and the abuse of pain medication, and Benzo's....
The numbers keep getting bigger and bigger everyday, because people tell themselves and other people, it as prescribed by my doctor.So it must be okay.To justify there addiction.
Addiction ruins life's and shatters dreams.........Addiction Killed Michael Jackson, and Danny Gans, may they rest in peace.Would you care to join them??????
Title: Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
Post by: Necrosis on December 15, 2009, 06:44:28 PM
Wiggs, your right!!!!! Amen!!! My point of this thread wasn't to bash anybody just inform people.My friend who got hooked on Ultram, was a Mormon guy, never drank never smoked, and never been buzzed his whole life.He married his first gf and didn't have sex until they were married, at 19.
So this guy was as straight as an arrow.Well he went to tie his shoe one day, and hurt his back so bad, he couldn't even walk.So he goes to the Doctor, and the Dr writes him a prescription for Loritabs, he tells the doctor I cant take those I am a Mormon.So the Dr writes him a prescription for Ultram.Needless to say he got hooked so bad he couldn't even function without them.He became a full blown addict.
Now addiction is a very ugly thing.I bet if you asked a addict, one question they would all have the same answer.If you knew how addictive this drug your taking was would you have ever taken it in the first place? I bet 10 out of 10 would say no.
Just look at cigarettes, people smoke them to be cool and fit in.There are new studies showing its in some cases harder to get off of cigarettes then it is to get off of Heroine.
I know my mother tried to quit smoking for 10 years, and after stage 4 brain and lung Cancer she finally did.But before that she couldn't quit.
I started this post to just inform people about how addictive this non narcotic pain medication can be.
You will be surprised how naive people are when it comes to addiction.There is a big difference between just having a bad habit, and having a full blown addiction.
There is literally an epidemic for the misuse and the abuse of pain medication, and Benzo's....
The numbers keep getting bigger and bigger everyday, because people tell themselves and other people, it as prescribed by my doctor.So it must be okay.To justify there addiction.
Addiction ruins life's and shatters dreams.........Addiction Killed Michael Jackson, and Danny Gans, may they rest in peace.Would you care to join them??????

no but you dont knwo what your talking about, thanks for telling us addiction is bad. Cigarettes are not as hard to get off as heroin, crazy statement.

what do you mean by non-narcotic, in your words?