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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2009, 08:37:46 PM »
Temper your an idiot! There are some people who go to the Doctor, get a prescription of Ultram, or Tramadol, and think its non narcotic and non habit forming.....Thats until they try to get off of it, 3-6 months later.I know a lot of people who when they get injured stay on prescription medication for several months.Before they know it when they don't take the medication, they feel sick, have the runs,.and cant sleep.Because no one told them they prescription medication is very addictive.I have known at least 50 people who got hooked on Ambien, Xanax,Loritabs,OXY'S,Perc's, and even Prozac.Most people don't know this but if you stop taking any of the medications I mentioned after just taking them 2 months you will have nasty withdrawals.I had a friend of mine who was depressed stopped taking cymbalta because it was making him nervous.When he stopped taking it he had such bad panic attacks he went to the hospital because he thought he was having a heart attack.The bottom line is Americans are over medicated

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2009, 08:40:36 PM »

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2009, 08:58:43 PM »

hahahahahahaaa i think i just shit myself cause i was laughing so hard ;D

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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2009, 09:17:06 PM »
Getitonwithguys is a dumbfuck.
I work in a pharmacy & know enough about this stuff to say this tool is very misinformed.

People can get addicted to coffee, video games, sex, Tylenol...etc. Tramadol is just another one to add to the list. It is NOT an epidemic. 

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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2009, 09:23:02 PM »
To answer the tap water question.People are consuming so much pain medication that there body isn't absorbing all of the medication, therefore they urinate it out.This is how it is getting into the water system.


So then all of us are ingesting water that has been shit in, vomited and such? ::)

Interesting thought. I'll hope that the water is spiked with good drugs like Ultram, that way I'll be desensitized to knowing I'm also drinking your shit water GetItOnNy.

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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2009, 10:37:26 PM »
Pluck so you work in a Pharmacy? So you know that Ultram can cause seizures? Did you know that Ultram can cause Serotonin Syndrome if used with SUI'S. That can cause death?.
The problem with not Ultram, its the fact that they push it as a non habit forming non narcotic pain killer.This is why people let there guard down when they take it, and it opens the door for addiction.The friend I knew who was addicted to it was a Mormon and never had a drink or did anything his entire life at 35 years old.He was prescribed Ultram and could not come off of them.If this post saves one person from become addicted to Ultram, or stops them from abusing Ultram, I will feel good about posting this.

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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2009, 10:11:08 AM »
Van, they suggest the maximum dosage is 400mg per day.That would be 8-50 mg pills per day, which to me seems like alot.I guess they now have 200 mg time released Ultram.The problem with Ultram is it interferes with antidepressants and can cause Serotonin Syndrome, which can kill you .The problem is a person goes to one doctor to get antidepressants, then goes a diffrent Doctor for there Ultram.Most people are to ashamed to say they are taking a SUI, Serotonin uptake inhibitor.Little do they know that lil secret could be deadly
I know that there is a medication called Gabapentin that will stop the interaction between the drugs,, but I personally would just avoid the medication all together.
Think about this, 400mg a day is the maximum dosage.That is 8-50mg pills a day.I don't know about you, but 8 pills a day of even aspirin is high.I have seen a nurse, and a good friend get so strung out on Ultram, they both had to check into rehab.....
For a non narcotic pain killer????????

You are a MORON!!!!!

gabapentin will not stop the interaction between the drugs, it does not affect serotonergic transmission, you have no idea what you are saying.

Secondly. WTF is a SUI, is it similar to an SUV but better?


"Most people are to ashamed to say they are taking a SUI, Serotonin uptake inhibitor.Little do they know that lil secret could be deadly"

its an SRI, or as classical called, although wrong an SSRI. it blocks RE-uptake, not uptake.

Keep posting, its like fucking comical relief to see you giving out advice.

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2009, 10:14:11 AM »
To answer the tap water question.People are consuming so much pain medication that there body isn't absorbing all of the medication, therefore they urinate it out.This is how it is getting into the water system.


dont let me discourage you , keep going.

Again this is incorrect do you know anything about first pass metabolism? well the drugs go into the body and they come out in most cases as metabolites, or waste products. They are not the same, most of the time they are inactivated by-products. Also, you are suggesting we are drinking urine and crap? do you know anything about water treatment?


Like i said keep going.

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2009, 10:18:26 AM »
There is now a generic equivalent available for Ultram, which will provde higher margin rates to retailers, while simultaneously lowering cost to the consumer.  It's a win-win.
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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2009, 10:20:26 AM »
Pluck so you work in a Pharmacy? So you know that Ultram can cause seizures? Did you know that Ultram can cause Serotonin Syndrome if used with SUI'S. That can cause death?.
The problem with not Ultram, its the fact that they push it as a non habit forming non narcotic pain killer.This is why people let there guard down when they take it, and it opens the door for addiction.The friend I knew who was addicted to it was a Mormon and never had a drink or did anything his entire life at 35 years old.He was prescribed Ultram and could not come off of them.If this post saves one person from become addicted to Ultram, or stops them from abusing Ultram, I will feel good about posting this.


OMG it can cause seizures? OMG so can wellbutrin a popular NRT and anti-depressant. OMG combining drugs may have adverse effects? holy shit thanks dude, i bet tylenol and alcohol mix well. Did you know that drinking your face off and taking clonazepam can kill you? It is not pushed as a non-narcotic painkiller, look at the studies, the withdrawal is mild if not abused and taken within range and tapered. Did you know that xanax can cause seizures if you take it for a while and aburptly stop it? Your right, medicines if abused have negatives, and there are contra indication, so what.... dont be such a moron. ITS FUCKING SRI, keep going.

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2009, 10:25:31 AM »
Haha this guy is a fucking moron.  I'm sorry but I'm an RN and I dole out xanax, restoril, ambien, ativan, percs, vics, ultram, haldol, blah blah blah.  ANY FUCKING PERSON who takes 30 ambien pills would be in a coma.  LMAO! 

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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2009, 10:40:59 AM »
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......Have you read some of the threads, on people who addicted to Ultram?????...It ruined there lives.The same thing with xanax, people think oh this will take away my anxiety, but little do they know when they stop taking the medication there anxiety will be worse, because they will be in withdrawal.
For you guys who call me an moron, why don't you watch the show Intervention on TV.....Then tell me how much of a moron I am.All the people on that show were normal happy people living a great life, until they tried a drug, or a prescription drug, now there lives and there families lives are ruined.
For callling me a moron for warning people about prescription drugs, and how addictive they are shows how ignorant you are.
If your and RN, and the Other GUY works in A Pharmacy, you guys would see how strung out people get from prescription medication.Did you know that pain killers and prescription medication abuse is so and right now its become a epidemic????????The rise in prescription medication has grow to staggering numbers.
It has gotten so bad, that they had one lady on a show would go to open houses, and garage sales just so she could get into peoples medicine cabinets to see if they had any pain killers.......
GO ahead call me a moron, just watch the show intervention, and see what addiction does to people.

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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 10:53:05 AM »
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......Have you read some of the threads, on people who addicted to Ultram?????...It ruined there lives.The same thing with xanax, people think oh this will take away my anxiety, but little do they know when they stop taking the medication there anxiety will be worse, because they will be in withdrawal.
For you guys who call me an moron, why don't you watch the show Intervention on TV.....Then tell me how much of a moron I am.All the people on that show were normal happy people living a great life, until they tried a drug, or a prescription drug, now there lives and there families lives are ruined.
For callling me a moron for warning people about prescription drugs, and how addictive they are shows how ignorant you are.
If your and RN, and the Other GUY works in A Pharmacy, you guys would see how strung out people get from prescription medication.Did you know that pain killers and prescription medication abuse is so and right now its become a epidemic????????The rise in prescription medication has grow to staggering numbers.
It has gotten so bad, that they had one lady on a show would go to open houses, and garage sales just so she could get into peoples medicine cabinets to see if they had any pain killers.......
GO ahead call me a moron, just watch the show intervention, and see what addiction does to people.

um alot of things are addiciting if the patients do not take the medication properly what can we do? We know xanax is addictive, the opiates are addictive etc... its fucking common knowledge. You are not informing anyone, and you have displayed terrible ignorance by routinely citing wrong information and downright lies, like ultram in the fucking water.

Im not doubting addiction, i have taken k-pins for three years now responsible, no side effects, no addiction, no more then twice a week, no more then 1mg which is more important. Its that you have really no idea about medicine and these drugs save lives, end of story. If people abuse them then they reap the fucking rewards of the abuse, like anything in life. If someone is crippled in pain, with bone cancer, are we worried about addiction or quality of life?

You are not saying anything novel and the message is terrible as you are literally clueless, SUI's, gabapentin stops SS, drinking water, its fucking comical.

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 11:31:19 AM »
Getitonwithguys is a dumbfuck.
I work in a pharmacy & know enough about this stuff to say this tool is very misinformed.

People can get addicted to coffee, video games, sex, Tylenol...etc. Tramadol is just another one to add to the list. It is NOT an epidemic. 
But, what is a epidemic is all the people addicted to oxy, Vic, etc. And theytry and pass fraudulent scripts, or pretend that they are docs to okay a script, or shoplift and pawn the items to feed their addiction. I see tons of them. One guy climbed thru the ceiling of a supermarket and dropped down into the pharmacy, got what he needed and climbed back up. He was seen in the warehouse section, in the rafters like he was spiderman. If you live near a Pawnshop, go in one, you might see China sets or tablesets that have belonged in the family for years and have been passed down, chances are they were pawned off by a addict.

It's sad now that supermarkets have cameras now in the toothpaste and men's shaving section, even having those goods locked up in glass front cages. All because addicts steal these and pawn them, and these are some of the favorite items---along with frozen shrimp.

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« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2009, 11:34:20 AM »
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......

Oh, so that is the secret to not becoming addicted to a pain killer- not letting your guard down? And all these years I thought it was because people have chemical dependencies and become reliant on them.

Who would have thought it was just because they let their guard down...had they kept it up, Mike Tyson AND Ultram would be fought off in one fell swoop!!! ::)

You are an idiot. You prove to be over and over again. It's never a one time thing, or a mistake, but shit like this where you just speak out of your ass over and over and over, you prove that you and MattT should be butt buddies.

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2009, 02:48:21 PM »
There is nothing like a former steroid abuser who trains steroid abusers and is friends with steroid abusers and sells steroids over the counter via a loophole trying to tell people that Tramadol is bad for you, haha.

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« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2009, 02:52:01 PM »
There is nothing like a former steroid abuser who trains steroid abusers and is friends with steroid abusers and sells steroids over the counter via a loophole trying to tell people that Tramadol is bad for you, haha.

Dont you have a dog to take to the vet or something?  Have you EVER posted something worthwhile douche drinker?

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« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2009, 02:53:50 PM »
Dont you have a dog to take to the vet or something?  Have you EVER posted something worthwhile douche drinker?

My dog is healthy, he stays away from Ultram.

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« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 03:23:01 PM »
My dog is healthy, he stays away from Ultram.

LOL, it's funny because he does abuse steriods and over drugs and does inform others on how to abuse steriods. LMAO.

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Re: Ultram ,The Dr's dirty lil secret
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 03:24:33 PM »
If you call me a moron your a fool!!! Addiction is a crippling disease that not only destroys families but has killed millions of people.I was just informing people about Ultram because I have seen alot of Doctors prescribe it and make people believe its not habit forming, and non narcotic.So people put there guard down and don't worry about getting hooked on it.......Have you read some of the threads, on people who addicted to Ultram?????...It ruined there lives.The same thing with xanax, people think oh this will take away my anxiety, but little do they know when they stop taking the medication there anxiety will be worse, because they will be in withdrawal.
For you guys who call me an moron, why don't you watch the show Intervention on TV.....Then tell me how much of a moron I am.All the people on that show were normal happy people living a great life, until they tried a drug, or a prescription drug, now there lives and there families lives are ruined.
For callling me a moron for warning people about prescription drugs, and how addictive they are shows how ignorant you are.
If your and RN, and the Other GUY works in A Pharmacy, you guys would see how strung out people get from prescription medication.Did you know that pain killers and prescription medication abuse is so and right now its become a epidemic????????The rise in prescription medication has grow to staggering numbers.
It has gotten so bad, that they had one lady on a show would go to open houses, and garage sales just so she could get into peoples medicine cabinets to see if they had any pain killers.......
GO ahead call me a moron, just watch the show intervention, and see what addiction does to people.

You're right about pain killers.  My point was regarding ambien.  Anyone who takes 30 ambien pills would be seriously fucked up. 

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« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2009, 03:49:21 PM »
I still haven't seen anyone answer the most important question to this whole debate....

just how high does this stuff get you?  must be pretty sweet for people to be getting so hopelessly addicted to it.

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« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2009, 03:53:43 PM »
Getitonwithguys is a dumbfuck.
I work in a pharmacy & know enough about this stuff to say this tool is very misinformed.

People can get addicted to coffee, video games, sex, Tylenol...etc. Tramadol is just another one to add to the list. It is NOT an epidemic. 

Why is he misinformed?

The US have a major overmedicalisation problem:
- factor 1: the prevalent 'quick fix' mentality in the US, a pill for everything.
- factor 2: the pharmaceuticals aggressive pushing of all kinds of drugs on even the most benign of symptoms.
- factor 3: the often addictive nature of these drugs.

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« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2009, 03:56:34 PM »
FYI -frequent consumption of alcohol in large quantities is not good for you.

P.S.

Smoking cigarettes has been linked to lung cancer.

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« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2009, 04:02:46 PM »
Why is he misinformed?

The US have a major overmedicalisation problem:
- factor 1: the prevalent 'quick fix' mentality in the US, a pill for everything.
- factor 2: the pharmaceuticals aggressive pushing of all kinds of drugs on even the most benign of symptoms.
- factor 3: the often addictive nature of these drugs.


Jesus...here it goes again. Ok, give SPECIFIC examples to support your "factors". You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Here are some more factors:

Factor 1- The British have bad teeth
Factor 2- Europeans drive tiny cars
Factor 3- BBC is lame

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« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2009, 04:09:42 PM »
There is nothing like a former steroid abuser who trains steroid abusers and is friends with steroid abusers and sells steroids over the counter via a loophole trying to tell people that Tramadol is bad for you, haha.
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