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I have seen you talk about how bodybuilding is a world of "opposites." Such as to work the inner bicep you need to use a wide grip on the barbell etc... Can you elaborate more on this for the getbiggers who may not be familiar with this?
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Saddam looking crazy in the background
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I have seen you talk about how bodybuilding is a world of "opposites." Such as to work the inner bicep you need to use a wide grip on the barbell etc... Can you elaborate more on this for the getbiggers who may not be familiar with this?
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Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
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Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
DORIAN YATES in some of his seminars said that if your grip is too wide for pulldowns you can`t use as much weight as using a normal grip and that`s equal more weight in pull downs more mass in lats...If I find a clip of that seminar I `ll post it here...
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DORIAN YATES in some of his seminars said that if your grip is too wide for pulldowns you can`t use as much weight as using a normal grip and that`s equal more weight in pull downs more mass in lats...If I find a clip of that seminar I `ll post it here...
Basically saying not to go too heavy, as youll ultimately be using/ involving more muscles than the lats you're trying to use...
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hey chick,
what kind of routine do you follow now you are retired and getting a little older? any fav exercises?
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hey chick,
what kind of routine do you follow now you are retired and getting a little older? any fav exercises?
LOL...ANY exercises are good ones these days!
It's the schedule and business that seems to get in the way, priorities change, my daughter demands more and more time, and travel is brutal...other than that...I try to get 3-4 days per week..still use a 50/50 split of machines and free weights...prefer single BP/ day...more often due to travel, find myself having to combine...
Cardio needs to increase...need to get lean and mean for the upcoming year, and TV stuff...270 looks like 300 on camera! LOL...I'm thinking 240-45 would be a good weight
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LOL...ANY exercises are good ones these days!
It's the schedule and business that seems to get in the way, priorities change, my daughter demands more and more time, and travel is brutal...other than that...I try to get 3-4 days per week..still use a 50/50 split of machines and free weights...prefer single BP/ day...more often due to travel, find myself having to combine...
Cardio needs to increase...need to get lean and mean for the upcoming year, and TV stuff...270 looks like 300 on camera! LOL...I'm thinking 240-45 would be a good weight
could you see yourself concentrating on mainly X frame type movements (upper/outer pec, side delt, outer quad etc) rather than trying to maintain overall size?
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could you see yourself concentrating on mainly X frame type movements (upper/outer pec, side delt, outer quad etc) rather than trying to maintain overall size?
Size? who's looking at size these days? I'm looking to cut it down....my "size " days are over...especially legs...much easier to fit into pants now
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Bob, how do you recommend I target the inner pecs?
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Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
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Bob, how do you recommend I target the inner pecs?
IMO,Flat dumbell press, pec deck/dumbell flys. I have the same problem with my chest. I still have that "Gap" between my pecs. Same wit my lower inner pecs.
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Bob, in your honest opinion. How long do you believe someone should train for and build a foundation before hitting the sauce??
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Bob, in your honest opinion. How long do you believe someone should train for and build a foundation before hitting the sauce??
Never as a teenager, in your early twenties if competition/ going pro is a REAL probability...and mid to late 20s if not...after that, maintinence dosages/ HRT for preservation
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Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
True. I believe I get the best width results from close reverse grip pull downs.
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I have seen you talk about how bodybuilding is a world of "opposites."
The better u look, the shittier u feel. That's what Jay Cutler once said. And when u feel like your minutes before death, lean and dehydrated on contest day, that's when u look the best.
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Bob, how do you recommend I target the inner pecs?
GOOD QUESTION
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plz answer bob
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Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
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Bob, this doesnt answer my question, I would like some specific advice.
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People still believe you can target "inner pecs"? ??? :D
Targeting upper and lower pecs is hard enough, but inner and outer? Please. :D
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People still believe you can target "inner pecs"? ??? :D
You can, I usually focus on inner pecs 4 weeks before the contest, when drugs are just the finishing touch.
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You can, I usually focus on inner pecs 4 weeks before the contest, when drugs are just the finishing touch.
Inner pec injections? Might work.
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Bob, this doesnt answer my question, I would like some specific advice.
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its not rocket science bob
how long does it take for u to type?
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Do you still work out Bob?
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Bob, this doesnt answer my question, I would like some specific advice.
Do you need a diagram? Why does he have to spell it out for you? He's quoted the priniciple of opposites several times, use your head. Want to build up inner chest? Work with a wide grip. This is simple.
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Do you need a diagram? .
This would be helpful, do you have one?
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This would be helpful, do you have one?
Now that's funny, made me smile, good one. Sorry my online friend. Gave up diagram creation when I got out of engineering. But it's simple if you give it a few minutes consideration. If you want to recruit your inner chest, and you're using Bob Chick's principles of muscles working in opposites, then you working with a wide grip will stimulate the muscles in the narrow/inner part of the group. Does that help you?
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Now that's funny, made me smile, good one. Sorry my online friend. Gave up diagram creation when I got out of engineering. But it's simple if you give it a few minutes consideration. If you want to recruit your inner chest, and you're using Bob Chick's principles of muscles working in opposites, then you working with a wide grip will stimulate the muscles in the narrow/inner part of the group. Does that help you?
Wait...how do you target the inner pecs?
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Wait...how do you target the inner pecs?
;D
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Bob do you have any general tips on bench press form?
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Bob do you have any general tips on bench press form?
i would say his advice would be avoid them or do them late in your workout so that you are pre exhausted. (he has said that in many interviews and articles)
i think for people who are benching very heavy weights it can be a dangerous movement (although almost any movement can be dangerous if done incoreectly)..but for most people..specially naturals...the weights wont be that heavy so they can keep bench as a first movement...(if they like it...some people get shuolder problems..etc then you can do other chest exercies--its up you to)
bench is not a must to grow pecs..i like incline bench..also as i gotten stronger and can use pretty heavy weights and work out alone i do incline smith machine presses..then a a chest press machine and finish with cable flyes. total of 6-9 sets MAXX..work it intensely then go home. no need to do 15-20 sets...yes it will work if your on drugs but for naturals it will be a waste oftime and probably counterproductive. then come back in 3-4 days amd work chest again..no need to wait one week before you hit it again