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Flex Sep 1996
Three weeks after his Night of the Champions triumph Flex Wheeler gave us the following skinny on his Olympia prep: " The blunt truth is that I don't think anyone can't beat Dorian [ Yates ]. He is a true fucking warrior who puts his shit on the line like no one else. It's hard to get a guy who will go to the wire - Dorian will give up whatever he has to [ in order ] to keep what he has. I will fight for the Olympia, but, realistically, it wont happen. So I'm focusing on second place-place slot.
" I'm sending a message to Kevin [ Levrone ] ' cause he sent me one about not doing the San Jose show. The message is that it's time for Kevin to stand down from the number two spot, because it doesn't belong to him - it's my slot. It was mine in 93, and I'm coming back to reclaim it.
Kevin needs to make arrangements to find another place to live. After the Arnold result [ a bitterly disappointed Flex finished a controversial second to Levrone ], I want to prove a point and put things right between Kevin and me. Kevin's gonna be pissed ' cause of all the negative stuff going his way since the Arnold, so I'm sure he's gonna be fired up, although I think he's on to much of a size kick. That'll be to my advantage. I was 230 for the Night of Champions: for the Olympia, I'll be even sharper at around 235-237.
And I really want to put Nasser [ El Sonbaty ] in his place, 'cause he's gotten so arrogant thinking he's the next Mr Olympia. I'm like, nah! It's gonna be a war - to make the top seven is gonna be hell! Last year started well for me and then disintegrated. This year, I'm just getting better and better. They expected me to burn out by May, but I was better then I was in March. I'll be even better by September.
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Perfection not even Michelangelo would have been capable to portray. (no homo)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311559.0;attach=351974;image)
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Perfection not even Michelangelo would have been capable to portray. (no homo)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311559.0;attach=351974;image)
X2 unbelievable shape and lines.(pic c/o ND)
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;D
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His above statement, either shows that he was unwilling to do what it took to come in shape, or he understood, that even if he came in top shape, he was not going to win.
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Looks like another "LIE" we caught Big Bobs and Team Nasser in. None of the bodybuilders of yesterday or today respect Nasser, or think he should of won anything. The more Team Nasser lies, the more hair Nasser loses. ;D
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His above statement, either shows that he was unwilling to do what it took to come in shape, or he understood, that even if he came in top shape, he was not going to win.
He knew Yates wasn't going to be beat not because of politics either , Flex is the only guy who could have beat Dorian back in the day , especially in 94 he would have gotten the job done where Shawn couldn't
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He knew Yates wasn't going to be beat not because of politics either , Flex is the only guy who could have beat Dorian back in the day , especially in 94 he would have gotten the job done where Shawn couldn't
I think Flex could have beaten Dorian, but after the crash, Flex got mindfucked, and went into a bigger is better mindset. Instead of gradually adding on the pounds, and sticking with Joe McNeil, he put on weight to quick. in 1997, if was not Chad that got Flex in shape for the Arnold, it was training with Shawn Ray that did.
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I think Flex could have beaten Dorian, but after the crash, Flex got mindfucked, and went into a bigger is better mindset. Instead of gradually adding on the pounds, and sticking with Joe McNeil, he put on weight to quick. in 1997, if was not Chad that got Flex in shape for the Arnold, it was training with Shawn Ray that did.
Flex always admitted size ca,e very slowly for him , I agree he was never right after the accident and I do think he was the one man who could've beaten Dorian a true case of apples Vs oranges which Shawn like to say which he stole from Gaspari who used to say the same about him and Haney
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Flex always admitted size ca,e very slowly for him , I agree he was never right after the accident and I do think he was the one man who could've beaten Dorian a true case of apples Vs oranges which Shawn like to say which he stole from Gaspari who used to say the same about him and Haney
Flex won his pro card at 215. He was at the 93 Ironman @230, if you believe that, he was heavier, but 230, hmm. At the 93 Arnold he dropped down to 216, using the week after the Ironman to cut. At the 93 Mr. O, he was 218. His best look was at 216-18. In 95 he was about 225-27. In 96, about 227. 97 Arnold, 224, he started to look like the Flex of old. It's safe to say had he added like 3 pounds or 4, gradually each yr, he might have kept his 93 conditioning, and by the late 90's he would basically been unbeatable.
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i have wrists like wheeler lol
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sounds to me that Mr. Levrone is LevrOWNING a space in flex's mind
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sounds to me that Mr. Levrone is LevrOWNING a space in flex's mind
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The 96 Arnold Classic could have gone either way. Plus there was some rivalry from 93.
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Flex Sep 1996
Three weeks after his Night of the Champions triumph Flex Wheeler gave us the following skinny on his Olympia prep: " The blunt truth is that I don't think anyone can't beat Dorian [ Yates ]. He is a true fucking warrior who puts his shit on the line like no one else. It's hard to get a guy who will go to the wire - Dorian will give up whatever he has to [ in order ] to keep what he has. I will fight for the Olympia, but, realistically, it wont happen. So I'm focusing on second place-place slot.
" I'm sending a message to Kevin [ Levrone ] ' cause he sent me one about not doing the San Jose show. The message is that it's time for Kevin to stand down from the number two spot, because it doesn't belong to him - it's my slot. It was mine in 93, and I'm coming back to reclaim it.
Kevin needs to make arrangements to find another place to live. After the Arnold result [ a bitterly disappointed Flex finished a controversial second to Levrone ], I want to prove a point and put things right between Kevin and me. Kevin's gonna be pissed ' cause of all the negative stuff going his way since the Arnold, so I'm sure he's gonna be fired up, although I think he's on to much of a size kick. That'll be to my advantage. I was 230 for the Night of Champions: for the Olympia, I'll be even sharper at around 235-237.
And I really want to put Nasser [ El Sonbaty ] in his place, 'cause he's gotten so arrogant thinking he's the next Mr Olympia. I'm like, nah! It's gonna be a war - to make the top seven is gonna be hell! Last year started well for me and then disintegrated. This year, I'm just getting better and better. They expected me to burn out by May, but I was better then I was in March. I'll be even better by September.
then both of them kicked his ass at the olympia ::)
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The 96 Arnold Classic could have gone either way. Plus there was some rivalry from 93.
but then they became friends by the end of their careers!..
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Looks like another "LIE" we caught Big Bobs and Team Nasser in. None of the bodybuilders of yesterday or today respect Nasser, or think he should of won anything. The more Team Nasser lies, the more hair Nasser loses. ;D
The primary focus of the "team" ::) is to cover up nassers shortcomings......and there are many.
Unfortunately for them all their excuses,lies and attempts to rewrite history have been exposed and destroyed. :D
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He knew Yates wasn't going to be beat not because of politics either , Flex is the only guy who could have beat Dorian back in the day , especially in 94 he would have gotten the job done where Shawn couldn't
Actually Flex Wheeler himself posted this year on his forum that he believes Nasser deserved to beat Yates in 97.
Also backstage at the 97 Olympia he told Nasser that due to politics he would not get his deserved victory that day.
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Actually Flex Wheeler himself posted this year on his forum that he believes Nasser deserved to beat Yates in 97.
Also backstage at the 97 Olympia he told Nasser that due to politics he would not get his deserved victory that day.
also after beating nasser at AC 98 flex said that nasser was such a great bb who pushed him to achieve his best ever shape!!.. sure ND would never post quotes like this from his old magazines, he must "sieve" them first ::)
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Given how much nasser hates flex and vice versa I don't see Wheeler paying nasser any complients
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Given how much nasser hates flex and vice versa I don't see Wheeler paying nasser any complients
Can you blame him? Nasser didn't talk all that shit he's talking when he competed...It comes out after he's retired and nobody gives two shits about him...It's keeps his name out there cause his physique won't keep it out there.
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but Kevin gets the girl
(http://content9.flixster.com/photo/96/93/72/9693727_tml.jpg)
Have you seen the photo of Flex with the Tenison twins (Renee and Rosie)...trumps them all, including Leeann Tweeden
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Can you blame him? Nasser didn't talk all that shit he's talking when he competed...It comes out after he's retired and nobody gives two shits about him...It's keeps his name out there cause his physique won't keep it out there.
Exactly.
In fact nasser claims he couldn't stand Milos and yet continued to hang around him.
He's got issues with ray and Wheeler but were sucking up to them during his competing days.
His ex wife supported him in his career and he repaid her by cheating on her (+ the beating).
Two faced egotistical selfish asshole
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Can you blame him? Nasser didn't talk all that shit he's talking when he competed...It comes out after he's retired and nobody gives two shits about him...It's keeps his name out there cause his physique won't keep it out there.
you are wrong here.. check nasser's interview in 1997 (on his website) from flex magazine where he exposed the weaknesses of all the other top pros!..
the wizard says the truth
now and in his youth ;D
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you are wrong here.. check nasser's interview in 1997 (on his website) from flex magazine where he exposed the weaknesses of all the other top pros!..
the wizard says the truth
now and in his youth ;D
No - its the truth as nasser sees it. There is a difference.
He was never a honorable man to begin with. Look at how he treated his wife and former friends.
Its only natural that he will lie to cover up his own inadequacies
Nasser is just a bitter selfish has been who spends most of his time blaming others for his failures.
Despicable creature
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;D
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No - its the truth as nasser sees it. There is a difference.
Nasser is just a bitter selfish has been who spends most of his time blaming others for his failures.
Despicable behaviour
that guy wig was saying that nasser was nice with other bbs in the 90s and only started to say his opinions about them now after retirement so i was showing him he was wrong to say this ::)
plz try to understand the meaning of any post before commenting like an asshole on it!!..I know "understanding" is your number one enemy but just TRY..
TYR you must TRY, poetic right? ;D
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that guy wig was saying that nasser was nice with other bbs in the 90s and only started to say his opinions about them now after retirement so i was showing him he was wrong to say this ::)
plz try to understand the meaning of any post before commenting like an asshole on it!!..I know "understanding" is your number one enemy but just TRY..
TYR you must TRY, poetic right? ;D
No he pointed out the truth. You on the other hand tried to dismiss it and failed.
What's poetic is that once again you were proved wrong.
Try to understand the truth before commenting like the asshole you are :D
Your lies are no good here cockbreath ;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=63470.0;attach=288253;image)
Jim Quinn said that they did a skin fold measurement which showed 0.0% bodyfat on Flex Wheeler at the Gold's in Venice one week before the 93 Mr. Olympia. He also said Flex was the only bodybuilder to ever do that.
In order for Nasser to ever beat this, he'd either have to be born with bettter genetics, or go back into a time and make sure Flex was never concieved.
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In order for Nasser to ever beat this, he'd either have to be born with bettter genetics, or go back into a time and make sure Flex was never concieved.
Nasser was a 2nd tier bber at best. His own competition record is evidence of this. He can't be compared with the likes of Ray,Levrone,Wheeler...all of whom showed consistency throughout their careers.
At the end of the day Wheeler will still be talked about while nasser will be an afterthought....if he's lucky
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Nasser was a 2nd tier bber at best. His own competition record is evidence of this. He can't be compared with the likes of Ray,Levrone,Wheeler...all of whom showed consistency throughout their careers.
At the end of the day Wheeler will still be talked about while nasser will be an afterthought....if he's lucky
And this is the reason why Team Nasser was created. They feel (or they know) that he is not as great, so they must shout how good he is, or he will be forgotten.
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And this is the reason why Team Nasser was created. They feel (or they know) that he is not as great, so they must shout how good he is, or he will be forgotten.
Precisely.
His "secret pm" shows how desperate he is to promote himself. Truly sad behavior for someone who should be enjoying retirement not trying build himself up by tearing down others.
Once again it proves that nasser needs bodybuilding not the other way around.
Without the Weiders he would be rotting away assembling cars in germany
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Nasser was a 2nd tier bber at best. His own competition record is evidence of this. He can't be compared with the likes of Ray,Levrone,Wheeler...all of whom showed consistency throughout their careers.
At the end of the day Wheeler will still be talked about while nasser will be an afterthought....if he's lucky
hahaha so according to mr. big ass tyr the winner of NOC and AC and the runner-up of mr. olympia is a 2nd tier bb ::)
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hahaha so according to mr. big ass tyr the winner of NOC and AC and the runner-up of mr. olympia is a 2nd tier bb ::)
It seems that you enjoy showing off your stupidity. Then again your intellect was never anything special to begin with. ;)
97 Olympia was nassers only shot at fame. If nasser was a first tier bodybuilder he would have been a serious contender for Coleman once yates retired. Instead he tapered off and ended up in 15th place before being forced to retire for...... health reasons. :-X
If he was a first tier contender he would have won more than just 6 comps throughout his career. He couldn't even repeat his win at NOC or AC. Instead he dropped down to third place in both on his next attempt.He couldn't even win consistently internationally.
Lets blame it on the judges, racism, Yates, his wife etc. :D
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hahaha so according to mr. big ass tyr the winner of NOC and AC and the runner-up of mr. olympia is a 2nd tier bb ::)
Actually Levrone should have won that AC, funny how Levrone won the Most Muscular Award-typically that goes to the winner. The Flex mag spun it saying Levrone came in flat---if one comes in flat one doesn't win the Most Muscular Award.
Just like how Johnny Fitness spun how Cutler won his AC's against Chris...
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It seems that you enjoy showing off your stupidity.
97 Olympia was nassers only shot at fame. If nasser was a first tier bodybuilder he would have been a serious contender for Coleman once yates retired. Instead he tapered off and ended up in 15th place before being forced to retire for...... health reasons.
If he was a first tier contender he would have won more than just 6 comps throughout his career. he couldn't even repeat his win at NOC or AC. Instead he dropped down to third place.
Lets blame it on the judges, racism, Yates, his wife etc. :D
so again according to mr. fat ass tyr the guy who placed controversial 3rd after ronnie and flex at mr. o. 98 is a 2nd tier bb :-\..
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Actually Levrone should have won that AC, funny how Levrone won the Most Muscular Award-typically that goes to the winner. The Flex mag spun it saying Levrone came in flat---if one comes in flat one doesn't win the Most Muscular Award.
Just like how Johnny Fitness spun how Cutler won his AC's against Chris...
here i am talking about ceratin facts that already happened and not what should have happened!!.. if we talk about what should have happened so let me add to what i said about nasser: 2x mr. olympia (96 and 97) also it was close in 98 between him and ronnie.. let me add NOC 94 where he was much better than francois.. let me add AC 97 and may be 98..
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so again according to mr. fat ass tyr the guy who placed controversial 3rd after ronnie and flex at mr. o. 98 is a 2nd tier bb :-\..
Controversial ::). in your own world maybe. :-\
Sorry but your nasser fantasies don't apply in the real world.
I'm sure he was also placed 15th in a controversial decision ;D
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here i am talking about ceratin facts that already happened and not what should have happened!!.. if we talk about what should have happened so let me add to what i said about nasser: 2x mr. olympia (96 and 97) also it was close in 98 between him and ronnie.. let me add NOC 94 where he was much better than francois.. let me add AC 97 and may be 98..
aaaah also let me add 3 GPs he didnt win in 96.. thank you :-X
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here i am talking about ceratin facts that already happened and not what should have happened!!.. if we talk about what should have happened so let me add to what i said about nasser: 2x mr. olympia (96 and 97) also it was close in 98 between him and ronnie.. let me add NOC 94 where he was much better than francois.. let me add AC 97 and may be 98..
It was never close.
You just can't accept that your mancrush was never as good as you make him out to be.
Time to take your head out of nasser bloated ass and accept facts :D
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It was never close.
You just can't accept that your mancrush was never as good as you make him out to be.
Time to take your head out of nasser bloated ass and accept facts :D
and it's time to see things with your eyes instead of your ass :-X
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and who ultimately won?
All the pics in the world can't change that little detail.
Time to come back down to earth pygmy. Your fantasies have no bearing on reality.
Of course it was due to racism, yates, judges, nasser wife.............. :D
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Fact is Nasser could only dream about having Flex's genetics. Nobody ever came as close to beating Dorian as Flex in '93. Dorian said it himself, Flex was the only one who could really give him a run for his money. Good for Dorian, Flex was never driven enough for that specially after his car accident. Even being a lazy fuck and an idiot, Flex stays as better than Nasser in Bbing history.
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Fact is Nasser could only dream about having Flex's genetics. Nobody ever came as close to beating Dorian as Flex in '93. Dorian said it himself, Flex was the only one who could really give him a run for his money. Good for Dorian, Flex was never driven enough for that specially after his car accident. Even being a lazy fuck and an idiot, Flex stays as better than Nasser in Bbing history.
True...thats apparent by all the venom that nasser spits in wheelers direction.
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here i am talking about ceratin facts that already happened and not what should have happened!!.. if we talk about what should have happened so let me add to what i said about nasser: 2x mr. olympia (96 and 97) also it was close in 98 between him and ronnie.. let me add NOC 94 where he was much better than francois.. let me add AC 97 and may be 98..
He was not better than Francois, and he was nowhere close to Flex to Flex in 97 and 98. Hell, if Flex entered the 99 AC, Nasser would have lost. And those pics clearly show that Nasser was only outweight Ronnie, but was nowhere close...not even close to Flex...and that the back detail is severely lacking in Nasser. Never knew how a guy soo big could lack detail.
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Who would win an aesthetic-off between Flex and Paris?
Shame Flex and Nasser were already shooting shit into their arms and delts by then, well Nasser visibly was in '97 against Dorian, with Flex it's hard to tell because his shape was so good!
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Who would win an aesthetic-off between Flex and Paris?
Shame Flex and Nasser were already shooting shit into their arms and delts by then, well Nasser visibly was in '97 against Dorian, with Flex it's hard to tell because his shape was so good!
Flex '93 would win. After that, probably on occasion when he tried hard enough to show up in good shape. But from '98 and on, Flex had destroyed his physique IMHO.
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Who would win an aesthetic-off between Flex and Paris?
Shame Flex and Nasser were already shooting shit into their arms and delts by then, well Nasser visibly was in '97 against Dorian, with Flex it's hard to tell because his shape was so good!
Did Flex have calf implants or was that just a shawn ray's mindgame?
I recall flex challenging ray to put up cash to back up his insinuation.
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Perfection not even Michelangelo would have been capable to portray. (no homo)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311559.0;attach=351974;image)
incredible....its very dificult to believe a human can achieve this physique
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Who would win an aesthetic-off between Flex and Paris?
Shame Flex and Nasser were already shooting shit into their arms and delts by then, well Nasser visibly was in '97 against Dorian, with Flex it's hard to tell because his shape was so good!
Don't know, Flex had a smaller waist, bigger arms legs, had a better taper due to his small waist, which made his lats flare out in the front double bi giving the illusion of width. Flex was also more of a Freak. But that one pic of Flex in some white trunks lying down with one arm up , has to be hands the most aesthetic pic ever taken of a bodybuilder. Mits O. took it. I have posted it before.
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Yeah I probably agree, well I agree he was bigger, dunno who I'd rather look like though.
I think Flex probably did have some weird shit in his calves at one point.
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Don't know, Flex had a smaller waist, bigger arms legs, had a better taper due to his small waist, which made his lats flare out in the front double bi giving the illusion of width. Flex was also more of a Freak. But that one pic of Flex in some white trunks lying down with one arm up , has to be hands the most aesthetic pic ever taken of a bodybuilder. Mits O. took it. I have posted it before.
Here it is...can't get better than this.
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Perfection not even Michelangelo would have been capable to portray. (no homo)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311559.0;attach=351974;image)
Great physique... perfection? no V-taper , calves are a bit funny (oil?).
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Who would win an aesthetic-off between Flex and Paris?
I think Paris was slightly more aesthetic. Better skeletal structure and proportions.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis21.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis37.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis38.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis35.jpg)
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Great physique... perfection? no V-taper , calves are a bit funny (oil?).
Yeah, and he's obviously male.
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here i am talking about ceratin facts that already happened and not what should have happened!!.. if we talk about what should have happened so let me add to what i said about nasser: 2x mr. olympia (96 and 97) also it was close in 98 between him and ronnie.. let me add NOC 94 where he was much better than francois.. let me add AC 97 and may be 98..
Hahahahahahahahaha it was close between Ronnie and Nasser in 1998
keep trying to rewrite history it's all you have left.
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I think Paris was slightly more aesthetic. Better skeletal structure and proportions.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis21.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis37.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis38.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bob%20Paris/BobParis35.jpg)
Cmon Bob Paris would get blown off the stage by Flex
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I was cool with FLex until "THE LIE OF 1997".
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Perfection not even Michelangelo would have been capable to portray. (no homo)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311559.0;attach=351974;image)
Michelangelo DID NOT HAVE SYNTHOL FO RBICEPS, TRICEPS, CALVES AND DELTS.
THE BEEF
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Michelangelo DID NOT HAVE SYNTHOL FO RBICEPS, TRICEPS, CALVES AND DELTS.
THE BEEF
And even Michelangelo would know that this pic is pre-synthol.
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Cmon Bob Paris would get blown off the stage by Flex
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all I said was I think Bob Paris was slightly more aesthetic than Flex Wheeler. I don't think Paris could take Wheeler in a bodybuilding contest.
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all I said was I think Bob Paris was slightly more aesthetic than Flex Wheeler. I don't think Paris could take Wheeler in a bodybuilding contest.
What's funny is Paris never one a single pro contest
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And even Michelangelo would know that this pic is pre-synthol.
ROFL . . . Parker has spoken ::)
The Beef
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ROFL . . . Parker has spoken ::)
The Beef
I'm glad you realize your folly...Tootles...have a Meryy, Merry X-mas filled with Su-preeses!
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nice thread,Tyr owning team nasser oil ...again ... 8)