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Title: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Tre on December 22, 2009, 07:20:42 AM

Watching some weird shit on National Geographic this morning about some religious wackos in the Muslim world. 

These Sharia courts are out of fucking control.  I know our 'justice system' in the U.S. is bullshit for the most part, but damn, these Sharia bitches are even worse! 

If a guy is supposed to be a virgin before he marries, how the fuck could he know he was infertile??  The grand ayatollah, however, argues that this guy was deceptive and therefore the wife should be able to annul the marriage.  I have no problem with the girl getting a divorce, but it's crap to say that the guy was deliberately deceptive. 

Fucking Muslims.  You idiots and Christians deserve one another.

Leave me the Buddhists and the Jews. 

Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 22, 2009, 07:25:03 AM
Watching some weird shit on National Geographic this morning about some religious wackos in the Muslim world. 

These Sharia courts are out of fucking control.  I know our 'justice system' in the U.S. is bullshit for the most part, but damn, these Sharia bitches are even worse! 

If a guy is supposed to be a virgin before he marries, how the fuck could he know he was infertile??  The grand ayatollah, however, argues that this guy was deceptive and therefore the wife should be able to annul the marriage.  I have no problem with the girl getting a divorce, but it's crap to say that the guy was deliberately deceptive. 

Fucking Muslims.  You idiots and Christians deserve one another.

Leave me the Buddhists and the Jews
These guys don't have sectarian nonsense going on!? Fark religion. Period.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: JasonH on December 22, 2009, 07:27:06 AM
Religion = farcical joke which doesn't belong in the 21st century.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on December 22, 2009, 07:31:34 AM
I was born a muslim but I can't handle them. The same for christians, at least catholics, biggotry is strong with them also. There's a very thin line between faith and stupidity.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 22, 2009, 07:36:45 AM
Yo Tre? You have a HP computer? Computers keeping a brother down.  >:( 

Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 22, 2009, 07:42:23 AM
The Jews!  Oh yeah, they're peaceful people  ::)  Some of the worst kind in the world.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Mars on December 22, 2009, 07:44:39 AM
yeah these religious jews are fucking idiots as well.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 22, 2009, 07:46:23 AM
that court ruling sounds reasonable enough (not that it really has anything to do Sunni v Shiite, unless that was the case name . . .)

seems like you're reaching for something to slam, Tre
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: garebear on December 22, 2009, 07:54:58 AM
Shiites like to torture Sunnis to death.

Sunnis like to blow themselves up and take as many men, women and children with them as possible.

These are the subtle fractions in the religion of peace.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Stark on December 22, 2009, 08:04:50 AM
Catholics vs Lutheran in northern Ireland .. why?

It religion which mostly blinds people.

Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: ag2 on December 22, 2009, 08:24:15 AM
Religous problems can be solved easily; just do the following

Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: dov on December 22, 2009, 08:25:58 AM
In Sharia courts, womens' testimony is 1/2 that of a man's. Men are allowed up to 4 wives. For a man to be convicted of rape, 6 other eye-witness men have to testify against him.LOL...This culture is 1000's of years behind.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Tre on December 22, 2009, 08:30:18 AM
Yo Tre? You have a HP computer? Computers keeping a brother down.  >:( 



CLASSIC!!
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Stark on December 22, 2009, 08:32:25 AM
CLASSIC!!


hahahah thats some fucked up shit
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: io856 on December 22, 2009, 08:46:59 AM
In Sharia courts, womens' testimony is 1/2 that of a man's. Men are allowed up to 4 wives. For a man to be convicted of rape, 6 other eye-witness men have to testify against him.LOL...This culture is 1000's of years behind.
who determines forward?
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 22, 2009, 02:44:00 PM
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: dov on December 22, 2009, 03:53:41 PM
who determines forward?
One's conscience should apply. Even wild animals inherently know the diff btwn basic right and wrong. This culture chooses to live centuries in the past. It's causing a lot of troubles all over the world. Have'nt you noticed?
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: jtsunami on December 22, 2009, 04:33:52 PM
yeah these religious jews are fucking idiots as well.

 :D
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Fury on December 22, 2009, 04:37:46 PM
Not only do you have to be Muslim in order to avoid having your head cut off but you also have to be a certain type of Muslim. Hilarious.

Then again, these are the same people who think that a group of "hetero" men gang raping a homosexual man is adequate punishment for being homosexual.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: ag2 on December 22, 2009, 07:24:11 PM
Not only do you have to be Muslim in order to avoid having your head cut off but you also have to be a certain type of Muslim. Hilarious.

Then again, these are the same people who think that a group of "hetero" men gang raping a homosexual man is adequate punishment for being homosexual.

Hmm I see, so let me get this straight, only Muslims believe in backwards things? So the Christian Idea of Jesus coming down and lifting the true believers to heaven in a rapture and then waging a 7 year war against Satan's son is a very progressive idea  ::)

Or did you forget that the Mormans believe in some pretty backwards things as well.

Point is all religion is fucked.



Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 22, 2009, 07:35:13 PM
there is nothing wrong with religion, only the people who claim to follow them yet ignore any teachings that conflict with their lifestyles
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: ksa_triceps on December 22, 2009, 07:38:53 PM
Then again, these are the same people who think that a group of "hetero" men gang raping a homosexual man is adequate punishment for being homosexual.

HAHA!
Now, where did you get this from ?
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: George Whorewell on December 22, 2009, 07:57:01 PM
Tre- with all do respect, how can you catagorize these animals with Christians?

I know that it's en vouge to not single out certain religions for their misdeeds, and it's easy to make blanket statements, but nothing on planet earth today comes remotely close to the mindless savagery of the so called muslim "religion".

I have never heard of a Christian suicide bomber in my lifetime. Christians do not abide by honor killings. Christians do not engage in female circumsiscion. Christians do not openly call for the extermination of other religions. Christians do not kidnap people and cut their heads off. And so forth and so on.

Also, do you find it a coincidence that every single religion on earth without exception cannot live peacefully with muslims and that every reigion on earth with a sizable muslim population is at "war" with Islam? India, Russia, Israel, America, Europe, Spain, England, the whole African continent, China and on and on has a constant threat of muslim terrorism. Last I checked, governments across the globe don't raise the terror threat level when the Pope issues a statement from the Vatican.

Now, please do not take the bait and begin your next statement with some obtuse comparison of Christianity to the Nazi's ( Utter and complete nonsense for anyone that isn't lazy or brain dead, pick up a book, do a google search or watch the history channel), or some ill concieved reference to bad things Christians did centuries ago ( it's 2009).

Also, why do jews get a pass in your book? Christians and jews are inevitably locked together as mortal enemies of the "religion" of peace. 
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
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Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: chaos on December 22, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Hmm I see, so let me get this straight, only Muslims believe in backwards things? So the Christian Idea of Jesus coming down and lifting the true believers to heaven in a rapture and then waging a 7 year war against Satan's son is a very progressive idea  ::)

Or did you forget that the Mormans believe in some pretty backwards things as well.

Point is all religion is fucked.




Settle down muslim.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: George Whorewell on December 23, 2009, 07:51:28 AM
Hmm I see, so let me get this straight, only Muslims believe in backwards things? So the Christian Idea of Jesus coming down and lifting the true believers to heaven in a rapture and then waging a 7 year war against Satan's son is a very progressive idea  ::)

Or did you forget that the Mormans believe in some pretty backwards things as well.

Point is all religion is fucked.






Beliefs aren't the issue-- it's the practices. I could care less if a religion believed that God was a Unicorn and that heaven was made out of ice cream; Being backward stems from what the followers of the religion do. 





Your example with Christianity is completely inappropriate to apply in this situation. However, while we are discussing beliefs I dont believe that Christians and Mormons believe that killing non believers while killing yourself grants you 72 virgins.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 23, 2009, 08:05:11 AM







Your example with Christianity is completely inappropriate to apply in this situation. However, while we are discussing beliefs I dont believe that Christians and Mormons believe that killing non believers while killing yourself grants you 72 virgins.

And what a noble religion it is  ::)

Kill yourself, and some innocent people....and you get to fuck little girls for all eternity...what a high-minded concept....really  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: ksa_triceps on December 23, 2009, 08:29:15 AM
Again people blame Islam for suicide bombings when the teachings condemn and puts them in the category of murderers. No one seems to understand that those suicide bombers are doing this under their own principles. Arabs do/did crazy things since the beginning of time, in fact, Islam is the religion which tamed them to become a 1 Billion nation with a couple of hundred exceptions.

And again, what I say won't matter as long as people insist to believe in generalizing, and never put the effort to read or inspect what is really going on.

Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: garebear on December 23, 2009, 01:40:20 PM
Again people blame Islam for suicide bombings when the teachings condemn and puts them in the category of murderers. No one seems to understand that those suicide bombers are doing this under their own principles. Arabs do/did crazy things since the beginning of time, in fact, Islam is the religion which tamed them to become a 1 Billion nation with a couple of hundred exceptions.

And again, what I say won't matter as long as people insist to believe in generalizing, and never put the effort to read or inspect what is really going on.


Are you being serious?
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: George Whorewell on December 23, 2009, 02:57:50 PM
LOL that post doesn't even warrant a response but I will any way because its hysterical---

A couple of hundred exceptions?

And tamed them into a nation of 1 billion? Tamed them?  ::)

Your post is evidence in itself that Islam is a horror show of a religion.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: wavelength on December 23, 2009, 03:17:17 PM
Fark religion. Period.

:o :o :o
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: ksa_triceps on December 23, 2009, 03:27:23 PM
 ::)

Care to tell me how many suicide bombers there was? Are you saying they're in millions or am i just so far away from the truth. You do realize that a very large number will result in the human population to go down drastically.

Do you know that people do things based on their own way of thinking. Taliban scream Allahu-Akbar all day and harvest cocaine in the night. Cocaine dealers are beheaded in Islam?!....  Some people do whacky things and just happen to be Muslim. Two entirely different things.

Terrorists are hunted and killed on sight, at the strictest Islamic-wahhaby nation on earth (Saudi Arabia). How does that make sense to you?

I see the hundred thing hurt your feelings? If you are smart enough to understand the fact that what the terrorist are doing can not be linked to Islam by any way or manner, then you'd realize that that number goes down to ZERO. How's that?
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 23, 2009, 07:40:36 PM
And what a noble religion it is  ::)

Kill yourself, and some innocent people....and you get to fuck little girls for all eternity...what a high-minded concept....really  ::) ::)

most of the US troops are christians and they killed millions of innocent koreans, vietnamese, afghanistanis, iraqis and more!!..

can i use your words and say in a mocking tone what a noble religion? ::).. of course not because i know well that beside those heartless killers there are a lot of great christians!!..

PS: for nasser you are "gronk who??".. ;D


Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: garebear on December 24, 2009, 03:47:46 AM
most of the US troops are christians and they killed millions of innocent koreans, vietnamese, afghanistanis, iraqis and more!!..

can i use your words and say in a mocking tone what a noble religion? ::).. of course not because i know well that beside those heartless killers there are a lot of great christians!!..

PS: for nasser you are "gronk who??".. ;D



Do you really believe that a sky god gave his instructions to a man in a cave 1400 years ago and that civilization should be based upon this? In your heart of hearts, and in your moments most alone, do you really believe this is what happened?

Or are you just responding to the pressure of those around you?
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Gino30 on December 24, 2009, 03:57:52 AM
,,,,

Fucking Muslims.  You idiots and Christians deserve one another.

Leave me the Buddhists and the Jews



Be careful what you wish for
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 24, 2009, 04:11:02 AM
Do you really believe that a sky god gave his instructions to a man in a cave 1400 years ago and that civilization should be based upon this? In your heart of hearts, and in your moments most alone, do you really believe this is what happened?

Or are you just responding to the pressure of those around you?

believe it or not i believe in ALLAH 100% with a ZERO doubt.. you may see me stupid but i dont think this is a reason to hate me as long as i am good and respectful with you!..
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: George Whorewell on December 24, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
To our enlightened members of the "religion" of peace-- I ask this

If as you claim, there are "hundreds" of radical Muslims only -- Can you explain the world wide rioting and blood shed when a News Paper in Denmark showed an image of Mohammad?

Were a few hundred people flying across the western hemisphere blowing shit up and rioting?

Say whatever you want about other religions-- There is no other religion on earth today that is more violent, primitive or resistant to progress than Islam.

Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: nycbull on December 24, 2009, 12:04:10 PM
there is no moderate muslim movement to speak of.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 24, 2009, 12:06:48 PM
To our enlightened members of the "religion" of peace-- I ask this

If as you claim, there are "hundreds" of radical Muslims only -- Can you explain the world wide rioting and blood shed when a News Paper in Denmark showed an image of Mohammad?

Were a few hundred people flying across the western hemisphere blowing shit up and rioting?

Say whatever you want about other religions-- There is no other religion on earth today that is more violent, primitive or resistant to progress than Islam.



this tells you that most of muslims love their relegion and dont accept to see it attacked or mocked!!.. dont hurt my feelings then ask why i show you hatred!!.. yes if you and i were in the same place and you said shit about my religion i am sure you would not like my reaction!!..
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: garebear on December 24, 2009, 01:20:41 PM
this tells you that most of muslims love their relegion and dont accept to see it attacked or mocked!!.. dont hurt my feelings then ask why i show you hatred!!.. yes if you and i were in the same place and you said shit about my religion i am sure you would not like my reaction!!..
There may be unhapiness, but there won't be nearly the violence.

When Van Gogh made a film depicting the brutal treatment of women under Islam, he was stabbed and shot. A knife was stuck in his chest with a note threatening a woman working with him.

Listen, these are just facts.

How many Christians and Jews and Buddhists make videos of cutting people's heads off? How many are car bombers? How many wear suicide vests into crowded markets full of women?

We are watching the actions of Islam and we know. You can dress it up all you want, we have seen and we know.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 24, 2009, 02:01:11 PM
There may be unhapiness, but there won't be nearly the violence.

When Van Gogh made a film depicting the brutal treatment of women under Islam, he was stabbed and shot. A knife was stuck in his chest with a note threatening a woman working with him.

Listen, these are just facts.

How many Christians and Jews and Buddhists make videos of cutting people's heads off? How many are car bombers? How many wear suicide vests into crowded markets full of women?

We are watching the actions of Islam and we know. You can dress it up all you want, we have seen and we know.

van gogh showed words of quran on naked bodies which is very insulting.. why didnt he say his idea in a more respectful way??.. for every action there is a reaction..

how many christians killed millions of innocent vietnamis and iraqis??.. how many jews killed millions of palastenians children??..

how many christians converted to islam and how many muslims converted to christianity??.. why do you think thousands of ppl (may be millions) convert to islam every year?..
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: George Whorewell on December 24, 2009, 03:01:29 PM
So what if it's insulting?

If someone insults you, do you have the right to murder them, or better yet, innocent people as a result?

People have the right to express their opinions and should be able to do so without the fear of being butchered.

Only in barbaric, backward societies is this kind of criminality tolerated.

Christians and Jews are mocked, demonzied, and humiliated on a daily basis-- The media, politicians, hollywood, etc. have been doing this for years. What is the reaction-- anger of course, but no innocent people are murdered as a result.

It's almost as if muslims as a group are less than human-- Ignorant, immature children incapable of taking criticism or insults without resorting to mindless violent behavior.

The rest of the world seems able to control themselves. I hate to break the news to you-- You are not special. You have to follow the rules and take the bad with the good like everyone else.

And PS-- Just to show how moronic muslims across the globe are, if I am not mistaken ONLY MUSLIMS cannot show an image of Muhammhad. Therefore, the rioting over the cartoons in Denmark was not only inappropriate, but totally WRONG from a religious point of view.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 24, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
So what if it's insulting?

If someone insults you, do you have the right to murder them, or better yet, innocent people as a result?

People have the right to express their opinions and should be able to do so without the fear of being butchered.

Only in barbaric, backward societies is this kind of criminality tolerated.

Christians and Jews are mocked, demonzied, and humiliated on a daily basis-- The media, politicians, hollywood, etc. have been doing this for years. What is the reaction-- anger of course, but no innocent people are murdered as a result.

It's almost as if muslims as a group are less than human-- Ignorant, immature children incapable of taking criticism or insults without resorting to mindless violent behavior.

The rest of the world seems able to control themselves. I hate to break the news to you-- You are not special. You have to follow the rules and take the bad with the good like everyone else.

And PS-- Just to show how moronic muslims across the globe are, if I am not mistaken ONLY MUSLIMS cannot show an image of Muhammhad. Therefore, the rioting over the cartoons in Denmark was not only inappropriate, but totally WRONG from a religious point of view.

i am not saying i agree with the guy who killed van gogh but i understand why he did so!!..

great you didnt comment with a single word about christains and jews who killed millions of innocent ppl around the world for no good reason ::)
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: BIG ACH on December 24, 2009, 03:44:29 PM

I was raised in a muslim household, and for the longest time I really practiced the religion, regular prayers, fasting during ramadan, attending mosque, etc.

But my views about islam (and all organized religions in general) has really changed in the last 3 years.  The more and more I read, the more contradicting and fucked up shit seemed, so I stopped practicing everything all together, and really just don't believe in it anymore.  I'm not so sure if I even believe god really exists or not,

and to be honest ever since I stopped practicing I feel SOOO MUCH BETTER about myself and my life, and I believe I'm actually a BETTER person since I've stopped, (less judgemental, etc)

So many wars, fights, arguments, battles, have been caused by religion, even by the same religions such as islam with the Sunnis VS Shiite, - it all just doesn't seem right, and I'm very glad I don't associate myself with it anymore.  Maybe I'm still a muslim by tradition, and the way I was raised, but it stops there and I just don't believe in it anymore!
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 24, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
all religions are paths to God - some are just more direct than others

I am a proud Catholic and everyday my faith challenges me to be a better person
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: BIG ACH on December 24, 2009, 04:16:21 PM
all religions are paths to God - some are just more direct than others

I am a proud Catholic and everyday my faith challenges me to be a better person

Thats an interesting quote, never heard it before :)


I'm glad you are happy with your faith and what it brings into your life, to each his own.  Some people will say this is the faith to go with, or that is, or none at all, but I truly believe what makes you the best person you can be is whats right for you.  As long as you lead a long and fullfilling life, thats all that matters!
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: ksa_triceps on December 24, 2009, 06:14:51 PM

And PS-- Just to show how moronic muslims across the globe are, if I am not mistaken ONLY MUSLIMS cannot show an image of Muhammhad. Therefore, the rioting over the cartoons in Denmark was not only inappropriate, but totally WRONG from a religious point of view.

So if people pass on naked cartoons of your family doing indecent actions that would be considered "ok" if they don't know how your family looks like? You'd say bring it on folks, you have no idea how they look like? Afterall, it's moronic to think otherwise??

And when Muslims respect and consider Jesus as a prophet, and have never said anything that would be considered an insult for 1400 years. Same goes for every other religion. Why would anyone even think of insulting the prophet and the number one symbol of the Islamic nation. People know what the reaction would be, a newspaper cartoonist becomes famous and well known. Great!

Freedom of speech?? You must be a genius if you believe it exists. Holocaust "cough".
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 24, 2009, 06:24:17 PM
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 24, 2009, 10:07:22 PM
Thats an interesting quote, never heard it before :)


I'm glad you are happy with your faith and what it brings into your life, to each his own.  Some people will say this is the faith to go with, or that is, or none at all, but I truly believe what makes you the best person you can be is whats right for you.  As long as you lead a long and fullfilling life, thats all that matters!

but bro. if there is no religion what is the source to tell you this thing is right or wrong!!.. this source cant be yourself, you cant be your own judge, right?.. we are not the same so what your see right may be wrong according to others.. if there is no religion what is the problem to do all bad things to achieve your goals, to lie, to steal or even to kill!!.. you may cheat on your wife and see it ok and just a moment for change!..

sure a good man knows what is right and what is wrong without religion but unfortunately we are not all good  ;)
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: BIG ACH on December 24, 2009, 10:18:38 PM
but bro. if there is no religion what is the source to tell you this thing is right or wrong!!.. this source cant be yourself, you cant be your own judge, right?.. we are not the same so what your see right may be wrong according to others.. if there is no problem what is the problem to do all bad things to achieve your goals, to lie, to steal or even to kill!!.. you may cheat on your wife and see it ok and just a moment for change!..

sure a good man knows what is right and what is wrong without religion but unfortunately we are not good  ;)

Sherif I personally do not believe that one needs religion to know what right or wrong is.  It doesn't take religion to explain that, right or wrong is a matter of human interactions between one person and another, its dependent on rules, reactions, and interctions.  Plus there are somethings in the religion (and other religions) that is wrong in some cultures!
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 24, 2009, 10:23:52 PM
Sherif I personally do not believe that one needs religion to know what right or wrong is.  It doesn't take religion to explain that, right or wrong is a matter of human interactions between one person and another, its dependent on rules, reactions, and interctions.  Plus there are somethings in the religion (and other religions) that is wrong in some cultures!

fair enough then brother..

how is your training going?..
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: XXXII/LX on December 24, 2009, 10:29:01 PM
If you ain't Sunni you ain't Shiite.
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: BIG ACH on December 24, 2009, 10:39:28 PM
fair enough then brother..

how is your training going?..

Good been hitting the gym hard these days, I weighed myself today scale read 230 lbs - but the love handles are coming out at full fledge, need to get my act together with the food (I say this as I just finish up a tub of ben & jerry's ice cream!)

How about you?

I'm actually flying to Egypt on January 1st and staying for a week to see some family, my parents don't even know yet, so they're gonna be surprised and excited since they've been wanting me to visit!
Title: Re: Sunni vs Shiite - why?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 24, 2009, 10:44:14 PM
Good been hitting the gym hard these days, I weighed myself today scale read 230 lbs - but the love handles are coming out at full fledge, need to get my act together with the food (I say this as I just finish up a tub of ben & jerry's ice cream!)

How about you?

I'm actually flying to Egypt on January 1st and staying for a week to see some family, my parents don't even know yet, so they're gonna be surprised and excited since they've been wanting me to visit!

you can start a good diet after holidays with a free day or 2 to eat your jerry icecream and other junk food ;)

will you train while you are in egypt?..