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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ag2 on December 22, 2009, 07:25:22 PM
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Discuss Bitches ;D
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Ronnie by TKO, Round 1 ;D
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jesus fucking christ ::)
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easy. Ronnie by a mile.
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Discuss Bitches ;D
look here asswhipe there is a thousand plus page thread dedicated to this...take this shit there...holy lord
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no comparison. ronnie easily. :P
but I think we need more discussion on this..
even though he looked better at the 1999 Olympia..
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look here asswhipe there is a thousand plus page thread dedicated to this...take this shit there...holy lord
This thread starter is the exact reason I should have admin powers here.
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whats so great about the last pic of ronnie, shape looks like dogshit
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few would agree that it looks like dogshit
besides, its a lot better than 93 dorian's shape: :P
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QUE ND....IN 5..........4............ .3..............2....... .....1...........
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But Hulkster many "experts" apparently claim that 2001 AC was Ronnie's best, and I believe Ronnie said 98 Olympia was his best? How do you get 99 Olympia?
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Because Hulkster is so delusional that he literally believes that he knows Ronnie better than the experts, or even Ronnie himself knows Ronnie. And, nice front relaxed there of Dorian, loser!
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But Hulkster many "experts" apparently claim that 2001 AC was Ronnie's best, and I believe Ronnie said 98 Olympia was his best? How do you get 99 Olympia?
From his posting history, it appears he looks a few shots in 99 where Ronnie looks absolutely amazing and ignores everything else, and makes excuses for any evidence that he can't refute.
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It would be close, but Dorian would prevail IMO.
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I love how Hulkster compeletly ignores good pics of Dorian... hes that delusional that he truly manages to not acknowledge there existance. It really undermines his arguments to continually post the same 3 or 4 shitty pics and claim that is how Dorian always looked.
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Dorian > Ronnie 8)
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From his posting history, it appears he looks a few shots in 99 where Ronnie looks absolutely amazing and ignores everything else, and makes excuses for any evidence that he can't refute.
That pretty much his MO. But it works for everything. He makes his opinion based on his opinion, and then makes excuses why his opinion is Fact.
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I love how Hulkster compeletly ignores good pics of Dorian... hes that delusional that he truly manages to not acknowledge there existance. It really undermines his arguments to continually post the same 3 or 4 shitty pics and claim that is how Dorian always looked.
Of course he does....it's the only way he can support his bullshit claims. Remember, we should all believe Hulkster over Ronnie himself when it comes to which year was Ronnie's best. ::)
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Of course he does....it's the only way he can support his bullshit claims. Remember, we should all believe Hulkster over Ronnie himself when it comes to which year was Ronnie's best. ::)
Sometimes I think Hulkster and Pumpster were the same poster. lol.
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That pretty much his MO. But it works for everything. He makes his opinion based on his opinion, and then makes excuses why his opinion is Fact.
The way he lays out an argument, he would lose a Ronnie vs. Kamali debate.
The thing is, I was a fan of both Dorian and Ronnie, but reading Hulkster's/Pumpster's crap about them all the time made me start to dislike Coleman for no good reason.
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The way he lays out an argument, he would lose a Ronnie vs. Kamali debate.
The thing is, I was a fan of both Dorian and Ronnie, but reading Hulkster's/Pumpster's crap about them all the time made me start to dislike Coleman for no good reason.
Lol, I totally agree. I have always been a fan of both Dorian and Ronnie. Hulkster's stupidity has cast a dark shadow over Ronnie on here though...it's actually kind of sad.
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But Hulkster many "experts" apparently claim that 2001 AC was Ronnie's best, and I believe Ronnie said 98 Olympia was his best? How do you get 99 Olympia?
for many reasons, the biggest of which is that his gut was much more pronounced at the AC:
he was also just as hard at the 99 O. but 10 pounds bigger.
combine that with smaller gut and you have a better overall shape.
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From his posting history, it appears he looks a few shots in 99 where Ronnie looks absolutely amazing and ignores everything else, and makes excuses for any evidence that he can't refute.
LOL a few shots?
how about the whole fucking contest: ::) ::) ::)
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
go ahead and watch. then watch the AC vid. he was better in 99, and much better than dorian ever looked. ::)
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So we should discredit all of those who saw him in person at both contests and RONNIE HIMSELF based on your opinion of a video?? And to say he was "much" better than Dorian is bullshit. It would be close, but don't forget that Dorian was heavier and had better conditioning. Cue the same sharpened pics you've been posting for 5+ years now in 5...4...3...2...
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I see all the nuthuggers are coming out in full force for this thread LOL
its cool. there isn't anything you can post that can't be refuted by real pics and videos...
bring it on bitches.
but I will have to own your sorry asses later, as I am off to Cozumel for a week of sun, sea and sand.
have fun nuthuggers! :P
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and the cycle continues.......
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I see all the nuthuggers are coming out in full force for this thread LOL
its cool. there isn't anything you can post that can't be refuted by real pics and videos...
bring it on bitches.
but I will have to own your sorry asses later, as I am off to Cozumel for a week of sun, sea and sand.
have fun nuthuggers! :P
Yeah right...you couldn't possibly go a week without dissing Dorian and nuthugging Ronnie.
You are admitting that your opinion of certain pics and videos outweigh the opinions of RONNIE HIMSELF as well as the industry experts who were there in person? WTF?!?!
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LOL who the fuck cares what ronnie thinks? he can be just as wrong as anyone.
he says he is natural, says he never injured his lats or quads, and says he is still a cop..but what he says refutes the videotape LOL ::)
think man think ::)
everyone is entitled to their opinion.
but if your opinion is based on misinformation (ie that a ronnie that is 10 pounds heavier, with equal hardness and LESS of a gut is WORSE than a ronnie that is smaller but equal hardness but with a bigger gut) then it is wrong. plain and simple.
an opinion is only as good as the facts it is based on.
if your opinion is based on fallacy, it is incorrect. period.
its that simple.
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LOL who the fuck cares what ronnie thinks? he can be just as wrong as anyone.
he says he is natural, says he never injured his lats or quads, and says he is still a cop..but what he says refutes the videotape LOL ::)
think man think ::)
everyone is entitled to their opinion.
but if your opinion is based on misinformation (ie that a ronnie that is 10 pounds heavier, with equal hardness and LESS of a gut is WORSE than a ronnie that is smaller but equal hardness but with a bigger gut) then it is wrong. plain and simple.
an opinion is only as good as the facts it is based on.
if your opinion is based on fallacy, it is incorrect. period.
its that simple.
Do you not realize just how full of contradictions this statement is? If an opinion based on fallacy is incorrect, then you are rarely correct ;D
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as well as the industry experts who were there in person? WTF?!?!
the bb industry remembers the AC as a stand out win for one reason:
it was the first time a Mr. O had competed in the Arnold Classic as Mr. Olympia.
ronnie happened to show up in fantastic shape against a sub par lineup and as a result, everyone freaked out.,
its no different than 2003 - if you read the reports at the time, everyone was saying it was his best ever shape.
but we can all see that it wasn't. but people remember 2003 for many reasons - eg. the difference from 02 to 03, the size ronnie gained etc.
its part of the human condition - we tend to remember things as we wish they were, not necessarily as the actually were
but luckily, the pics and videos upon which this entire sport is based do not fall victim to this fault..
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the bb industry remembers the AC as a stand out win for one reason:
it was the first time a Mr. O had competed in the Arnold Classic as Mr. Olympia.
ronnie happened to show up in fantastic shape against a sub par lineup and as a result, everyone freaked out.,
its no different than 2003 - if you read the reports at the time, everyone was saying it was his best ever shape.
but we can all see that it wasn't. but people remember 2003 for many reasons - eg. the difference from 02 to 03, the size ronnie gained etc.
its part of the human condition - we tend to remember things as we wish they were, not necessarily as the actually were
but luckily, the pics and videos upon which this entire sport is based do not fall victim to this fault..
LOL, you called bbing a sport. ;D
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the bb industry remembers the AC as a stand out win for one reason:
it was the first time a Mr. O had competed in the Arnold Classic as Mr. Olympia.
ronnie happened to show up in fantastic shape against a sub par lineup and as a result, everyone freaked out.,
its no different than 2003 - if you read the reports at the time, everyone was saying it was his best ever shape.
but we can all see that it wasn't. but people remember 2003 for many reasons - eg. the difference from 02 to 03, the size ronnie gained etc.
its part of the human condition - we tend to remember things as we wish they were, not necessarily as the actually were
but luckily, the pics and videos upon which this entire sport is based do not fall victim to this fault..
Where do you come up with this shit? First, it is just ridiculous to say that the "only" reason the BB industry appreciated Ronnie's 2001 form is because it was the Arnold. Speculation is your only basis for this. How about the competitors, judges, and experts who saw him at all of his shows? How about the fact that at the 2000 Mr. O he was off? How about the fact that despite the stomach distention, it was the driest Ronnie had ever been? Do you honestly believe that if Ronnie was off at the 2001 A/C he wouldn't be called on it simply because he was the reigning Mr. O and competing at the Arnold? Oh yeah, when you get desperate you'll believe anything.
Who has ever said that 2003 was his best shape? I have heard many say it was his freakiest size (I was there in person and he was a freak), but most agree his conditioning was nowhere near is 98 Mr.O or 2001 A/C forms.
Who says the entire sport is based on pics and videos?? I thought the sport was based on the judges WHO ARE THERE IN PERSON. I'm afraid only you base everything on pics and vids (although you're blind to the many that disprove your blind biases).
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What the fuck is wrong with you people? This shit and the nasser threads, you guys are seriously mentally ill.
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INSANE size, symmetry, completeness, density, etc
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311809.0;attach=352410;image)
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LOL who the fuck cares what ronnie thinks? he can be just as wrong as anyone.
he says he is natural, says he never injured his lats or quads, and says he is still a cop..but what he says refutes the videotape LOL ::)
think man think ::)
everyone is entitled to their opinion.
but if your opinion is based on misinformation (ie that a ronnie that is 10 pounds heavier, with equal hardness and LESS of a gut is WORSE than a ronnie that is smaller but equal hardness but with a bigger gut) then it is wrong. plain and simple.
an opinion is only as good as the facts it is based on.
if your opinion is based on fallacy, it is incorrect. period.
its that simple.
You shouldnt be lecturing anyone on facts, when you cannot seperate fact from opinion yourself.
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INSANE size, symmetry, completeness, density, etc
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311809.0;attach=352410;image)
This shot is simply awesome - I love the shadow, hence the nickname I guess. I think Dorian's 93 form is the best ever....there were no weaknesses whatsoever.
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From his posting history, it appears he looks a few shots in 99 where Ronnie looks absolutely amazing and ignores everything else, and makes excuses for any evidence that he can't refute.
ND claims those pictures are photoshopped?
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Nasser would beat them both.....
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Discuss Bitches ;D
nasser 96 ;D
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Ronnie 98,99,2000,2001,2003,2004,2005
kills any version of yates
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Completely useless topic now. Brings out the worst in many getbiggers.
Seriously. Must avoid like the fucking plague.
no offense to the topic starter, I know your intentions are pure.
PS: Ronnie > Dorian.
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Ronnie, because he's black.
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LOL who the fuck cares what ronnie thinks? he can be just as wrong as anyone.
he says he is natural, says he never injured his lats or quads, and says he is still a cop..but what he says refutes the videotape LOL ::)
think man think ::)
everyone is entitled to their opinion.
but if your opinion is based on misinformation (ie that a ronnie that is 10 pounds heavier, with equal hardness and LESS of a gut is WORSE than a ronnie that is smaller but equal hardness but with a bigger gut) then it is wrong. plain and simple.
an opinion is only as good as the facts it is based on.
if your opinion is based on fallacy, it is incorrect. period.
its that simple.
this may be the worst post on getbig.
can someone tell this fucking guy that his silly opinion and sole interpretation of pics, vids, etc. is NOT a fact.
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In my opinion, it's quite often the Englishmen who claim Dorian was better. You can often tell by the quintessentially britishesque names here. Since, they'll likely claim that nationality has nothing to do with it, I will say that it is only a coincidence that I have observed.
I am English myself, but there is no doubt in my mind, Ronnie is/was better. Whilst I've no intention on debating my own opinion, I think I can narrow down what it is that I don't like about Dorian. He has quite a high chest.
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oh freakin christ...add this to you 2k page long debate...btw...ronnie wins..
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oh freakin christ...add this to you 2k page long debate...btw...ronnie wins..
quoted for truth
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love dorians but ronald has this one
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they are both no. 1
in different times
comparisons are useless
dorian always beat ronnie, no matter how they look like, even ronnie knows
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Ronnie at the 2001 ASC:
http://tiny.cc/RjpRS
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INSANE size, symmetry, completeness, density, etc
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311809.0;attach=352410;image)
that physique looks great to you
INSANE size, symmetry, completeness, density, etc
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311809.0;attach=352410;image)
that physique looks great to you
blocky with small Arms
I wouldn't even have Dorian in my top 20 best
big and cut doesn't equate to good physique
IMO I would even compare Dorian to ronnie
like i said great back and calves but that's it
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they are both no. 1
in different times
comparisons are useless
dorian always beat ronnie, no matter how they look like, even ronnie knows
may be the best 2 backs ever, where dorian was drier and thicker ronnie was a little wider and better in shape!!..
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very very close....greatest match ever
but I put my money on the shadow.....he bought a rare and unmatched combination of awe and presence....his was otherworldly
Ronnie was freakier, but Dorian bought something very dangerous and unqiue
you either have this shit in your DNA or you dont
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very very close....greatest match ever
but I put my money on the shadow.....he bought a rare and unmatched combination of awe and presence....his was otherworldly
Ronnie was freakier, but Dorian bought something very dangerous and unqiue
you either have this shit in your DNA or you dont
so are you gay because you was born with gayness in your DNA or because as i always guess you were fucked by a pakistani man when you were a kid?? :-X
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Nasser felt this Danger many a time.....resorted to Synthol and other filthy endeavours....but still FAILED
didnt he Shalibibiibi
you knowwwwwwwwwwwww