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The bellowing by Republicans over the Obama administration's supposedly lackadaisical response to the attempted bombing of an airliner over Detroit seems as much about political posturing as legitimate national security concerns.
How else to explain the GOP's relatively quiet reaction eight years ago to President George W. Bush's detached response after a similarly-botched terrorist attack?
On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid -- known more infamously as the shoe bomber -- failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet using explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential attack during the upcoming holiday break. Nevertheless, President Bush did not directly address the foiled plot for six days, according to an extensive review of newspaper records from that time period. And when he did, it was only in passing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/bush-waited-nine-days-to_n_406307.html
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more of the same from you ::)
silver lining cock sucking for obama and broad brush condemning of the reps...
hmmm youre a conservative you say ???
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I am a repub. I've voted for a repub presidential candidate more times than you :)
I am very tough on my own party, sure. nothing wrong with having high standards. When GOp bitched about obama's slow response to this near-attack, it makes them look bad. I would prefer they focus on answers to sloppy airport and TSA security - not shit on obama for taking a lot less time than Bush did.
I would like them start improving things - not just bitching about how bad the other guy is.
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I am a repub. I've voted for a repub presidential candidate more times than you :)
I am very tough on my own party, sure. nothing wrong with having high standards. When GOp bitched about obama's slow response to this near-attack, it makes them look bad. I would prefer they focus on answers to sloppy airport and TSA security - not shit on obama for taking a lot less time than Bush did.
I would like them start improving things - not just bitching about how bad the other guy is.
LOL RINO
so you have high standards for your party but low standards for the dems? ::) LOL Ive said it before and I know Ill have to say it again...you may claim to be a rep but you sir are no conservative...
you bitched right along with them when they condemned bush but defend obama on similar shit ::) just give it a rest bro seriously
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dems don'g get my vote. But i admit when they get shit right. it makes me more credible when I say the repubs get something right.
believe me, if/when the repubs run a champ like Thune in 2012, I'll be very vocal on my support ;)
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dems don'g get my vote. But i admit when they get shit right. it makes me more credible when I say the repubs get something right.
believe me, if/when the repubs run a champ like Thune in 2012, I'll be very vocal on my support ;)
LOL you knee pad for them 240 nothing more nothing less bro
seriously address the silver lining comment, you think im off on that or do you agree you play the silver lining with dems and broad brush condemn with the reps? honestly
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The dems do a lot of shitty things - spending, gun control, etc. This stuff is obvious to me and most others. I agree very quickly on healthcare, cap/trade, and many other issues with the repubs here.
They don't get my vote. i've said that here for oh, 7 years now. I'm very hard on the Gop, but you bet that last doughnut, when they do get their shit together, I'll be the biggest Thune 2012 guy here.
2008 sucked for candidates.
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The dems do a lot of shitty things - spending, gun control, etc. This stuff is obvious to me and most others. I agree very quickly on healthcare, cap/trade, and many other issues with the repubs here.
They don't get my vote. i've said that here for oh, 7 years now. I'm very hard on the Gop, but you bet that last doughnut, when they do get their shit together, I'll be the biggest Thune 2012 guy here.
2008 sucked for candidates.
youre going back into the old 240 M.O.
answer the question I asked you in a sincere and honest manner
address the silver lining comment, you think im off on that or do you agree you play the silver lining with dems and broad brush condemn with the reps? honestly
being hard on the GOP is one thing I too am hard on them, the difference is I dont knee pad and silver line the dems like you do. I piss on all of them you however seem to be infatuated with obama and silver line every thing he does...
answer the question please
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if you think i see the silver linings, that's fine. some things they do - i agree with. Many things I do not. I was such a bush supporter - even on getbig - until 2005. I still see the whole GOp with those fecal colored glasses :(
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if you think i see the silver linings, that's fine. some things they do - i agree with. Many things I do not. I was such a bush supporter - even on getbig - until 2005. I still see the whole GOp with those fecal colored glasses :(
yet you see the dems with rose colored ones... ::)
Its not whether I see things one way or the other 240 it is what it is and you do silver line/knee pad for the dems and obama youve done so since the campaign hoss. I think everybody here would agree with that statement, whether you do it for debating purposes or not is one thing but to deny you do it is another ::)
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yet you see the dems with rose colored ones... ::)
Its not whether I see things one way or the other 240 it is what it is and you do silver line/knee pad for the dems and obama youve done so since the campaign hoss. I think everybody here would agree with that statement, whether you do it for debating purposes or not is one thing but to deny you do it is another ::)
I wouldn't agree with that statement at all. I think 240 has been very consistent in his views in the 5 yrs I've seen him posting here. I'll tell you one thing about this guy, ...he's got one heckuva keen mind. I'd be scared to be up against him cause he sees things from 20 moves out. I don't mean this to be insulting, but I believe the reason the Repubs crashed & burned as bad as they did, ...is not solely because of Bush and the assiinine decisions he and his handlers made, ...but also because of guys like you. You just can't see the forest because all those darn trees keep blocking your view. And when the stuff starts hitting the fan, and things go sideways... you act like cheerleaders for the continued insanity, rather than doing your job which is to step back and say "Whoa wtf?!"
The reason you don't understand 240 is because he is from that very rare, unique and endangered species known as the intelligent Conservative. And do you know who is the biggest hunter and killer of intelligent conservatives? hint: It's not Democrats. When Republicans keep putting up shit on a stick and have nothing to offer but bashing of the left, guys like 240 have no one to vote for. Some if they are lucky may live in a district that has a good independant or libertarian candidate who represents a platform true to their ideals, but for the most part, it's more shit on a stick, ...so they stay home from the polls rather than vote for what they believe to be shit from any party.
If you truly are a Republican or a Conservative, you ought to be celebrating guys like 240, because they will be the ones responsible for the resurgence and rebirth of the Republican party, ...but most Republicans are just too stupid and myopic to see that.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Like i said many times, many repubs have turned into alarmist whiney cry babies......like many dems a couple of years ago.
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I wouldn't agree with that statement at all. I think 240 has been very consistent in his views in the 5 yrs I've seen him posting here. I'll tell you one thing about this guy, ...he's got one heckuva keen mind. I'd be scared to be up against him cause he sees things from 20 moves out. I don't mean this to be insulting, but I believe the reason the Repubs crashed & burned as bad as they did, ...is not solely because of Bush and the assiinine decisions he and his handlers made, ...but also because of guys like you. You just can't see the forest because all those darn trees keep blocking your view. And when the stuff starts hitting the fan, and things go sideways... you act like cheerleaders for the continued insanity, rather than doing your job which is to step back and say "Whoa wtf?!"
LOL darling I dont think you should be insinuating my lack of intelligence.
First off the forest for the trees comment...again do you understand what this violation of civil rights opens the door to? apparently to 240 as long as it ends in convicted terrorists its ok no matter the consequences...who is missing the forest for the trees here babe? and he sees things 20 moves out huh? ::) please darling he backs himself into a corner on a daily basis with his idiocy. I know he just says shit to say shit and create debates dont get me wrong but be honest about it is all Im saying.
Second I dont cheerlead the rep party Ive been criticizing bush and I think the reps are just as lost as 240 does, difference is i dont cheerlead the dems like 240 does. ;)
"If you truly are a Republican or a Conservative, you ought to be celebrating guys like 240, because they will be the ones responsible for the resurgence and rebirth of the Republican party, ...but most Republicans are just too stupid and myopic to see that."
I have no problem with him having problems with the rep party i have plenty myself again my problem is with his constant knee padding for the administration praising obama for shit he would have condemn bush for.
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Bush wasn't on fucking vacation in Hawaii when Reid tried to blow up that plane....he was knee deep in working out the details for the take down of the Taliban and AQ in Afghanistan..big friggen difference. Keep defending Obama with Bush did this or Bush did that. Bush is in Texas and Barry is president and he did nothing. He's said nothing on Iran...he does nothing but spend and print money and weaken this country.
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LOL darling I dont think you should be insinuating my lack of intelligence.
First off the forest for the trees comment...again do you understand what this violation of civil rights opens the door to? apparently to 240 as long as it ends in convicted terrorists its ok no matter the consequences...who is missing the forest for the trees here babe? and he sees things 20 moves out huh? ::) please darling he backs himself into a corner on a daily basis with his idiocy. I know he just says shit to say shit and create debates dont get me wrong but be honest about it is all Im saying.
Second I dont cheerlead the rep party Ive been criticizing bush and I think the reps are just as lost as 240 does, difference is i dont cheerlead the dems like 240 does. ;)
"If you truly are a Republican or a Conservative, you ought to be celebrating guys like 240, because they will be the ones responsible for the resurgence and rebirth of the Republican party, ...but most Republicans are just too stupid and myopic to see that."
I have no problem with him having problems with the rep party i have plenty myself again my problem is with his constant knee padding for the administration praising obama for shit he would have condemn bush for.
To what violation of civil rights do you refer? ...and whose? ;)
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I wouldn't agree with that statement at all. I think 240 has been very consistent in his views in the 5 yrs I've seen him posting here. I'll tell you one thing about this guy, ...he's got one heckuva keen mind. I'd be scared to be up against him cause he sees things from 20 moves out. I don't mean this to be insulting, but I believe the reason the Repubs crashed & burned as bad as they did, ...is not solely because of Bush and the assiinine decisions he and his handlers made, ...but also because of guys like you. You just can't see the forest because all those darn trees keep blocking your view. And when the stuff starts hitting the fan, and things go sideways... you act like cheerleaders for the continued insanity, rather than doing your job which is to step back and say "Whoa wtf?!"
The reason you don't understand 240 is because he is from that very rare, unique and endangered species known as the intelligent Conservative. And do you know who is the biggest hunter and killer of intelligent conservatives? hint: It's not Democrats. When Republicans keep putting up shit on a stick and have nothing to offer but bashing of the left, guys like 240 have no one to vote for. Some if they are lucky may live in a district that has a good independant or libertarian candidate who represents a platform true to their ideals, but for the most part, it's more shit on a stick, ...so they stay home from the polls rather than vote for what they believe to be shit from any party.
If you truly are a Republican or a Conservative, you ought to be celebrating guys like 240, because they will be the ones responsible for the resurgence and rebirth of the Republican party, ...but most Republicans are just too stupid and myopic to see that.
Its always amusing when extreme faaaar left wing libs try to insult conservatives.The libs who have brought us such tremendous things as welfare,social security[going broke]medicare[going broke]medicaide[going broke]forced bussing which has set African Americans back by 50 years.Government program after government program ALL of which have been incredible failures.Yes,the dumb conservatives.What a joke libs truly are.
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240,
Can you go a week without bringing Bush into the debate, when discussing current events ?
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240,
Can you go a week without bringing Bush into the debate, when discussing current events ?
Many conservatives (including me) who supported Bush, jumped off his bandwagon along time ago, for many reasons, such as his push for Amnesty, Harriet Myers, Dubai Ports, spending too much and etc...
The problem with that is that current events have been shaped by the recent past, and if you don't understand how you got to where you are, you'll have a difficult time extricating yourself from where you are, to where you want to be. BTW - I actually agreed with Bush on the Dubai ports deal. One of the few areas I actually agreed with him.
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"240,
Can you go a week without bringing Bush into the debate, when discussing current events ?"
I shall try!
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"240,
Can you go a week without bringing Bush into the debate, when discussing current events ?"
I shall try!
Nice spin job. This fiasco is solely on DHS, State, and the rest of the incompetent idiots.
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Obama had a year to reform these organizations and did not.
Just as Bush can't blame 911 on clinton - as he played gold in crawford and let the agencies sit as is - Obama can't pass this off as the org's fault.
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Obama had a year to reform these organizations and did not.
Just as Bush can't blame 911 on clinton - as he played gold in crawford and let the agencies sit as is - Obama can't pass this off as the org's fault.
The CIA knew about this guy in august.
The father warned State Dept.
No excuse or blaming Bush. Even many lib columnists are disgusted with this admn so far.
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Obama had a year to reform these organizations and did not.
Just as Bush can't blame 911 on clinton - as he played gold in crawford and let the agencies sit as is - Obama can't pass this off as the org's fault.
Actually he can. From what I understand, the CIA can deny the President. this was their screw up. we just now have to determine both how & why it occured.
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Oddly Bush never really blamed his predecessor. His surrogates might have at times but they were more concerned with the whole "war" thing. Barry blames Bush every chance he gets..Barry is a whiny little bitch.
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Oddly Bush never really blamed his predecessor. His surrogates might have at times but they were more concerned with the whole "war" thing. Barry blames Bush every chance he gets..Barry is a whiny little bitch.
I dare you to say that to his face! Infact... I double-dog dare you.
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Actually he can. From what I understand, the CIA can deny the President. this was their screw up. we just now have to determine both how & why it occured.
Another moronic post from Jagass.
The father warned the State Department. And btw knee padder, guess why the CIA cant talk to other agencies? I'll let you figure that one out.
Look up that traitorous C%^T Jamie Gorelick and go from there.
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Jag....my absolutely hatred for the man would preclude his handlers from ever letting me get close to him. No Barry in Iraq for Christmas or Thanksgiving...OBAMA IS A FIRST CLASS SHITBAG. Oddly if he came here I would be responsible for some of the arrangements as I was for Sec Gates a few weeks ago. I would be sick that day. Maureen Dowd...first class asshat. Some of our guys took pictures of her with big grins and their arms around her. She look like she wanted to puke...................d ouchbag hahaaha.
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Jag....my absolutely hatred for the man would preclude his handlers from ever letting me get close to him. No Barry in Iraq for Christmas or Thanksgiving...OBAMA IS A FIRST CLASS SHITBAG. Oddly if he came here I would be responsible for some of the arrangements as I was for Sec Gates a few weeks ago. I would be sick that day. Maureen Dowd...first class asshat. Some of our guys took pictures of her with big grins and their arms around her. She look like she wanted to puke...................d ouchbag hahaaha.
Had they at least taken showers first, ...or were they wreaking from BO? :D
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Nope...first thing in the morning..it was on TV. Maureen asked me about some mural the Cav guys had done and then she went around and talked to soldiers...then the Cav CSM asked for pics with her. He's 6'3 and she was wearing some stupid pink Yankee hat and looked miserable. He had a huge cheshire grin on his face.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Like i said many times, many repubs have turned into alarmist whiney cry babies......like many dems a couple of years ago.
true dat.
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Jag....my absolutely hatred for the man would preclude his handlers from ever letting me get close to him. No Barry in Iraq for Christmas or Thanksgiving...OBAMA IS A FIRST CLASS SHITBAG. Oddly if he came here I would be responsible for some of the arrangements as I was for Sec Gates a few weeks ago. I would be sick that day. Maureen Dowd...first class asshat. Some of our guys took pictures of her with big grins and their arms around her. She look like she wanted to puke...................d ouchbag hahaaha.
HILARIOUS..You can say that shit about a dude thats been in power for a year..but other hommie fucked this place up in every way for 8 years...and you still sucking bush's dick when you see the results of his shit...and for the record...911 happened...this didnt...
Real Talk...
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Yeah.....ok "hommie". Bush isn't in charge...only gross incompetence stopped this...not ol barry the weak.
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To what violation of civil rights do you refer? ...and whose? ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=312343.0
here you go jagalicious, see what kind of idiot your putting on a pedestal...thinks 20 moves ahead LOL hahhaha ohhh goodness
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where is this pic of you I hear is floating around? ;D
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Yeah.....ok "hommie". Bush isn't in charge...only gross incompetence stopped this...not ol barry the weak.
did you talk wild like this when Bush was Warned about 911..but he was on the ranch...and then...it really happened...hmmmmm...answ er that
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Jag....[size=15pt]my absolutely hatred for the man would preclude his handlers from ever letting me get close to him[/size]. No Barry in Iraq for Christmas or Thanksgiving...OBAMA IS A FIRST CLASS SHITBAG. Oddly if he came here I would be responsible for some of the arrangements as I was for Sec Gates a few weeks ago. I would be sick that day. Maureen Dowd...first class asshat. Some of our guys took pictures of her with big grins and their arms around her. She look like she wanted to puke...................d ouchbag hahaaha.
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Jag....my absolutely hatred for the man would preclude his handlers from ever letting me get close to him. No Barry in Iraq for Christmas or Thanksgiving...OBAMA IS A FIRST CLASS SHITBAG. Oddly if he came here I would be responsible for some of the arrangements as I was for Sec Gates a few weeks ago. I would be sick that day. Maureen Dowd...first class asshat. Some of our guys took pictures of her with big grins and their arms around her. She look like she wanted to puke...................d ouchbag hahaaha.
HH - you sound like just the kind of nutbag that our government should be keeping an eye on.
Seriously
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The bellowing by Republicans over the Obama administration's supposedly lackadaisical response to the attempted bombing of an airliner over Detroit seems as much about political posturing as legitimate national security concerns.
How else to explain the GOP's relatively quiet reaction eight years ago to President George W. Bush's detached response after a similarly-botched terrorist attack?
On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid -- known more infamously as the shoe bomber -- failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet using explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential attack during the upcoming holiday break. Nevertheless, President Bush did not directly address the foiled plot for six days, according to an extensive review of newspaper records from that time period. And when he did, it was only in passing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/bush-waited-nine-days-to_n_406307.html
not only that but they couldn't stop congratulating themselves when they convicted him in civilian court
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HH - you sound like just the kind of nutbag that our government should be keeping an eye on.
Seriously
And oddly enough, he has the nerve to ...within the same sentence, ...criticize the man for not making an appearance in the very same country, where someone who professes to hate him so intensely, his people won't let him near him, but would be responsible for making his security arrangements. What an absolutely brain dead moron he is.
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Quick question:
Since as a consequence of Richard Reid the shoe bomber, we all have to remove our shoes at airports,
...does that mean that as a result of the underwear bomber, we're all going to have to remove our panties?
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not only that but they couldn't stop congratulating themselves when they convicted him in civilian court
are you trying to draw an equivalent between trying that man in civilian court and the detainees at gitmo?
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HH - you sound like just the kind of nutbag that our government should be keeping an eye on.
Seriously
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Me too Straw?
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where is this pic of you I hear is floating around? ;D
I posted this for you in the other thread.
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Quick question:
Since as a consequence of Richard Reid the shoe bomber, we all have to remove our shoes at airports,
...does that mean that as a result of the underwear bomber, we're all going to have to remove our panties?
well I dont wear panties but if I were you I would just forgo the panties all together :D
for the sake of saving time, ya know ;)
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are you trying to draw an equivalent between trying that man in civilian court and the detainees at gitmo?
I'm "trying" to say exactly what I said
Bush Admin Officials congratulated themselves for a successful conviction of a terrorist in our civilian courts.
Clearly they think that's the appropriate avenue for dealing with terrorrist.
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Bush never blamed Clinton huh? Where has Obama said this is Bush's fault? Bush's admin people (whom i'd assume he has control over no?) told everyone that they inherited a 'recession' and that led to this current economic downfall, repubs have repeatedly blamed clinton era policies for 9/11 and Osama.
In all honesty i don't jump on the blame Bush for such small things. Like HH6 said i'm sure he was on top of it. Just because he doesn't address it doesn't mean it isn't being dealt with. Same deal with Obama. Oh my gosh he played golf for 3 hours he must be doing nothing! Sounds to me like we have found the new cry baby party and this time shockingly, it isn't the democrats.
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I'm "trying" to say exactly what I said
Bush Admin Officials congratulated themselves for a successful conviction of a terrorist in our civilian courts.
Clearly they think that's the appropriate avenue for dealing with terrorrist.
hahahah nice try dip shit, actions such as this have grounds and follow due process in order to try these ppl in civilian court.
OBVIOUSLY you dont understand DUE PROCESS, try looking that up and tell me whether you think the gitmo detainees have been given due process... ::)
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Me too Straw?
you're definitely a crank and have a very radical and fringe view of how our government should work but you'd never be able to tear yourself away from GB long enough to plan anything serious. You're just a crank on a message board. All talk and no action
If anything, I see you losing it and killing someone in a domestic violence or road rage type incident.
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I posted this for you in the other thread.
LOL thanks skip sorry I must have missed it
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you're definitely a crank and have a very radical and fringe view of how our government should work but you'd never be able to tear yourself away from GB long enough to plan anything serious. You're just a crank on a message board. All talk and no action
If anything, I see you losing it and killing someone in a domestic violence or road rage type incident.
And I see you hooking up with other gay men in the rest stops on the highway. Whats your point?
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Can Obama please explain why he postponed his vacation until the Senate voted on the helathcare bill, yet he cannot rush back to Washington to review and clean this "catastrophc breach" of security resulting from "human failure"?
Guess threats of violence from terroists is simply not as important as the actions of the "evil insurance companies!"
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Can Obama please explain why he postponed his vacation until the Senate voted on the helathcare bill, yet he cannot rush back to Washington to review and clean this "catastrophc breach" of security resulting from "human failure"?
Guess threats of violence from terroists is simply not as important as the actions of the "evil insurance companies!"
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And I see you hooking up with other gay men in the rest stops on the highway. Whats your point?
Outed! You must be at the same rest stops and know who the gay men are, by yourself partaking in the activities.
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Outed! You must be at the same rest stops and know who the gay men are, by yourself partaking in the activities.
Caught me KC.
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Caught me KC.
hey 333 - why do you always revert to calling someone gay whenever you're frustrated?
Do you think calling someone gay is an insult? Seriously dude - I'm beginning to think you're really a closet case.
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hey 333 - why do you always revert to calling someone gay whenever you're frustrated?
Do you think calling someone gay is an insult? Seriously dude - I'm beginning to think you're really a closet case.
Bro - I like a fat ass and big tits. Men dont do shit for me.
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well I dont wear panties but if I were you I would just forgo the panties all together :D
for the sake of saving time, ya know ;)
I prefer going commando.
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Bro - I like a fat ass and big tits. Men dont do shit for me.
now you sound defensive
you're the one on here calling people gay
classic projection
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now you sound defensive
you're the one on here calling people gay
classic projection
You are what you are. Yopu call me a VRWC member, which I am, and you are what you are. Its all good. Do you prefer marxist?
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Huffington post..geez!
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You are what you are. Yopu call me a VRWC member, which I am, and you are what you are. Its all good. Do you prefer marxist?
keep talking Nancy Boy
I'm sure someone on here will believe you
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keep talking Nancy Boy
I'm sure someone on here will believe you
You voted for Obama - enough said.
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You voted for Obama - enough said.
hey short bus, you're a little slow on the uptake aren't you
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hey short bus, you're a little slow on the uptake aren't you
I guess so.
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now, now...straw and 333....if you boys cant nicely in the sandbox you will have to turn your pail and shovel into the teacher and go back to class.
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Bro - I like a fat ass and big tits
is this what you had in mind 333386? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Moere likle this.
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Moere likle this.
333
don't act so defensive
I believe you
???
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333
don't act so defensive
I believe you
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LOL Who're you trying to kid? You don't believe him for a minute. lol.