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Title: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on January 02, 2010, 12:03:26 PM
Director James Cameron on course to break the $1bn barrier for the second time

In less than two weeks, the ground-breaking 3D film has grossed $745m (£460m) and is already expected to be the most successful movie of 2009-10, overtaking even the latest Harry Potter film. And on New Year's Eve it was given the presidential seal of approval when the Obama family ventured into a shopping mall in Hawaii to watch the movie.

Should it continue its money-making progress at its current rate, the film could become just the fifth in history to gross more than $1bn. The biggest money-spinning movie of all time is Titanic, which made $1.8bn.

Breaking the $1bn barrier would be a particularly remarkable achievement for James Cameron, Avatar's director, seeing as he also directed Titanic. He would be the first film director to gross $1bn twice.
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Post by: affy on January 02, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
honestly the movie was a turd

but then again this film has been hyped up for the past two years, so I probably went in with extremely high expectations

Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: dr.chimps on January 02, 2010, 12:22:39 PM
Visually spectacular. Narratively craptacular. 
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: disturbia on January 02, 2010, 12:25:42 PM
"Avesher" opens up to a billion the first week and great reviews

how you like them apples?
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Fury on January 02, 2010, 12:28:04 PM
I thought it was pretty damn good. Then again, I don't go into blockbuster movies expecting Casablanca.
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Post by: Wiggs on January 02, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
Looks like we have alot of Shakesperian writers in here.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 02, 2010, 01:07:24 PM
Amazing movie, I was crapping on it in the other thread as a joke... seriously, everything Cameron's touch has been spectacular... he has the midas touch.. his record speaks for itself..

Aliens
the Abyss
Terminator 2
Titanic

etc.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Aaron Singerman on January 02, 2010, 01:11:35 PM
Excellent movie... I give it 5 out of 5 stars. It appeals to such a broad audience, I won't be surprised if it eclipses Titanic.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Stavios on January 02, 2010, 01:27:36 PM
When I saw the trailer I tought, what a fucking boring movie.

then I kept an open mind and went to see it with my GF and we both tought it was amazing
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 02, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
When I saw the trailer I tought, what a fucking boring movie.

then I kept an open mind and went to see it with my GF and we both tought it was amazing

Pretty much what happened with me.. I was blown away by it, also helped that I saw it in IMAX
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Post by: ahh.. fk on January 02, 2010, 01:54:47 PM
5\5 fantastic movie. I kind of want to fuck that blue chick  ???
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Max on January 02, 2010, 01:59:32 PM
Been to see it three times and it's been so busy I haven't seen it once!!
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: TRIX on January 02, 2010, 02:52:11 PM
I thought lord of the rings was the highest grossing films
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Sam on January 02, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
I am sure the film is good but anybody else notice that every year the box office record seems to get broken?

I dont think its the best way to evaluate a film.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: uberman09 on January 02, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
another piece of propaganda for multiculturalism, globalization and self hartred toward the caucasian/white/occidental man.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Spoony Luv on January 02, 2010, 03:36:25 PM
Off topic---I once got a hold of Cameron Crow's personal email address and asked him(from a school computer) when he was going to come out and tell everyone that he has been a CIA shill(agent) ever since he was a teenager working for Rolling Stone(when he was infiltrated)...

He said I wasn't the first one to put "that" puzzle together but he assured me that it was not true...However after the words not true, he put a :)...
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Spoony Luv on January 02, 2010, 03:41:13 PM
another piece of propaganda for multiculturalism, globalization and self hartred toward the caucasian/white/occidental man.

Well there is a strong conspiracy that "they" are going all out to cross breed all white people and make a race of brown people...All the while "they" at the top keep their bloodlines in tact...
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Colossus3 on January 02, 2010, 04:18:33 PM
Stavios and Captain Equipoise  ,  im with you guys. I kept open mind and went to see the movie with my gf. Glad i did, amazing movie! one of very few movies where i can easily say that i would  pay to see it again.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Fury on January 02, 2010, 04:20:45 PM
another piece of propaganda for multiculturalism, globalization and self hartred toward the caucasian/white/occidental man.

You're quite the whiny c*nt. Must be pretty miserable in real life.

Movie had nothing to do with the white man.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: dr.chimps on January 02, 2010, 04:30:22 PM
You're quite the whiny c*nt. Must be pretty miserable in real life.

Movie had nothing to do with the white man.
He's probably referring to the anti-colonialist motif of the movie.   
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Fury on January 02, 2010, 04:40:56 PM
He's probably referring to the anti-colonialist motif of the movie.   

Anti-colonialist and anti-white are two different concepts. There's nothing that jumped out as "anti-white" in the movie.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 02, 2010, 04:55:49 PM
Cameron doesn't make good movies anymore. Last time he did it was 1984. He makes movies that make money.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: dr.chimps on January 02, 2010, 04:57:39 PM
Anti-colonialist and anti-white are two different concepts. There's nothing that jumped out as "anti-white" in the movie.
Oh, sure there was. The colonialist/military vs. blue people was a none-too-veiled Imperialist vs. Native Peoples. Pretty ham-handed. That and the idea that these blue people have a great 'spiritual' connection to the land that the Imperialists would be wise to heed (a timely nod of the head to the Green movement). Maybe, I'm getting cranky in my old age but I just want escapism when I see a movie. I don't like to be lectured, especially with some sociology 101 stuff.  
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Post by: Fury on January 02, 2010, 05:02:38 PM
Oh, sure there was. The colonialist/military vs. blue people was a none-too-veiled Imperialist vs. Native Peoples. Pretty ham-handed. That and the idea that these blue people have a great 'spiritual' connection to the land that the Imperialists would be wise to heed (a timely nod of the head to the Green movement). Maybe, I'm getting cranky in my old age but I just want escapism when I see a movie. I don't like to be lectured, especially with some sociology 101 stuff.  

How is that anti-white? None of that jumps out and screams 'anti-white'. Anti-imperialism, sure. Anti-white? No. I'm guessing most people will see it as more of an environmental movie than anything.

Methinks you're looking too much into a blockbuster movie. Either way, Cameron stole the whole movie from a novella written in the 50s.

Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: gordiano on January 02, 2010, 10:28:28 PM
honestly the movie was a turd

but then again this film has been hyped up for the past two years, so I probably went in with extremely high expectations



I would not call it a turd, but definitely disappointing. It's funny how people will just go watch something cause it's hyped. Same shit every time.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: uberman09 on January 02, 2010, 10:58:17 PM
Oh, sure there was. The colonialist/military vs. blue people was a none-too-veiled Imperialist vs. Native Peoples. Pretty ham-handed. That and the idea that these blue people have a great 'spiritual' connection to the land that the Imperialists would be wise to heed (a timely nod of the head to the Green movement). Maybe, I'm getting cranky in my old age but I just want escapism when I see a movie. I don't like to be lectured, especially with some sociology 101 stuff.  

right on target. thanks for saying it better than i could with my shitty broken frenglish.
Can you imagine the degree of brainwashing some people endured to not even being able to see what you and i (and some others) see. Can you imagine how deeply it must affect children  when you can see "adults" in their 20 / 30s cannot even understand what they re feeding with anymore.
That's what happen when most people spend hours a day since decades behing their TV screen.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on January 02, 2010, 11:40:52 PM
right on target. thanks for saying it better than i could with my shitty broken frenglish.
Can you imagine the degree of brainwashing some people endured to not even being able to see what you and i (and some others) see. Can you imagine how deeply it must affect children  when you can see "adults" in their 20 / 30s cannot even understand what they re feeding with anymore.
That's what happen when most people spend hours a day since decades behing their TV screen.


I saw it pretty quick but the effects were awesome so just enjoyed the movie. I just tried to think a movie has got to have some plot and this is what it is.

The best line i read was how ironic is it that they are using technology to tell us technology (and technological advances) is bad.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: dr.chimps on January 03, 2010, 04:51:12 AM
How is that anti-white? None of that jumps out and screams 'anti-white'. Anti-imperialism, sure. Anti-white? No. I'm guessing most people will see it as more of an environmental movie than anything.

Methinks you're looking too much into a blockbuster movie. Either way, Cameron stole the whole movie from a novella written in the 50s.
Well, most people would see Imperialism as primarily White and most, more probably, as British, given recent history. You seem very defensive about it being seen as 'anti-White.' Odd. 
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Immortal_Technique on January 03, 2010, 04:55:55 AM
Amazing movie, I was crapping on it in the other thread as a joke... seriously, everything Cameron's touch has been spectacular... he has the midas touch.. his record speaks for itself..

Aliens
the Abyss
Terminator 2
Titanic

etc.


Don't forget the original Terminator, awesomely raw and gritty, not cheesy, and all done on a low budget. Kudos for recognising The Abyss.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Tapeworm on January 03, 2010, 04:56:15 AM
I'm amazed no one has an Avatar avatar yet.  Who will be the first?
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: jon cole on January 03, 2010, 05:58:39 AM
another piece of propaganda for multiculturalism, globalization and self hartred toward the caucasian/white/occidental man.

epic f.d.s quote here ;D
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: jon cole on January 03, 2010, 06:01:52 AM
You're quite the whiny c*nt. Must be pretty miserable in real life.

Movie had nothing to do with the white man.


you just have been brainwashed....
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 03, 2010, 08:27:24 AM
right on target. thanks for saying it better than i could with my shitty broken frenglish.
Can you imagine the degree of brainwashing some people endured to not even being able to see what you and i (and some others) see. Can you imagine how deeply it must affect children  when you can see "adults" in their 20 / 30s cannot even understand what they re feeding with anymore.
That's what happen when most people spend hours a day since decades behing their TV screen.


If you call Avatar manipulative or brainwashing or whatever, then every damn movie is just that... ::)
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: wavelength on January 03, 2010, 12:05:47 PM
Visually spectacular. Narratively craptacular.  

How can they put so much money into the technology of a movie and then sabotage it with some of the most moronic dialogs and storylines ever. Would it really have been that expensive to hire a decent writer?
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Post by: Fury on January 03, 2010, 12:09:28 PM
Well, most people would see Imperialism as primarily White and most, more probably, as British, given recent history. You seem very defensive about it being seen as 'anti-White.' Odd. 

I'm not being defensive. I just don't see it. It struck me as more of a green movement, "connect with mother nature" type of movie than anything. Most of the movie was about him finding himself and his connection to the planet. 
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Post by: Parker on January 03, 2010, 12:11:43 PM
How can they put so much money into the technology of a movie and then sabotage it with some of the most moronic dialogs and storylines ever. Would it really have been that expensive to hire a decent writer?
The last Fast and Furious had the most moronic, cliched dialog ever. I knew what they were say before they said it.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: wavelength on January 03, 2010, 12:15:25 PM
The last Fast and Furious had the most moronic, cliched dialog ever. I knew what they were say before they said it.

maybe I exaggerated a little ;D
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Parker on January 03, 2010, 12:29:38 PM
maybe I exaggerated a little ;D
I didn't pay money for it whn it came out, saw it on my computer, and I caught myself mouthing the dialog as they said it..shit I could have been Vin Fucking Deisel...it was a waste so I got disgusted and watched porn ;D

I think "The Last Airbender" is going to be a huge surprise.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Stavios on January 03, 2010, 12:42:54 PM
The last Fast and Furious had the most moronic, cliched dialog ever. I knew what they were say before they said it.

that movie sucked ass
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Kwon on January 03, 2010, 01:48:05 PM
honestly the movie was a turd

but then again this film has been hyped up for the past two years, so I probably went in with extremely high expectations

Cameron knows how to hype up a movie.

People watch Camerons movies no matter what, at least i do! :D
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Matt C on January 03, 2010, 01:52:15 PM
You're quite the whiny c*nt. Must be pretty miserable in real life.

Movie had nothing to do with the white man.

He's whiny for defending himself/his race against slander from this vile movie?  ???
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Fury on January 03, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
He's whiny for defending himself/his race against slander from this vile movie?  ???

Hi Woten.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Matt C on January 03, 2010, 02:03:06 PM
Hi Woten.

 ;D

PS - the noble Aboriginals in Canada didn't cut down trees because they were "in touch with nature"!!!  It had NOTHING to do with the fact that they didn't discover metal.  ::)
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Post by: Fury on January 03, 2010, 02:04:33 PM
;D

PS - the noble Aboriginals in Canada didn't cut down trees because they were "in touch with nature"!!!  It had NOTHING to do with the fact that they didn't discover metal.  ::)

3/4 of the movie involves the guy running around the forest finding himself and connecting with nature.

I think I'll do my part to combat this "vile" movie by seeing it again this week.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: uberman09 on January 03, 2010, 02:06:18 PM
If you call Avatar manipulative or brainwashing or whatever, then every damn movie is just that... ::)

every damn movie is just that, hope this helps, starting with cartoons. I hope you didnt JUST realize that everything you see, hear shapes your brain, your personality and cognitions. Looks like you need a psychology 101 class.

Never forget some people see XxX fast and furious and star wars and find in these things the answers to all their questions. Watching a movie is like discussing with someone or reading someone's book; there's an interaction between your thoughts and those promoted in the product or character. The only problem with TV and movies is that you DO NOT PARTICIPATE ACTIVELY, you re just told, shown, what to think without any feedback from you required.
The main danger with movies and TV is that people really believe they re not BRAINWASHED , when in fact they are, especially because it's a passive activity that dont involve any action or REFLEXION. It's very close to what we call addictions. Addiction to being brainwashed.

There's a pattern here; people who are addicted to drugs, like people who are addicted to being brainwashed,  WILL BOTH TELL YOU THEY ARE NOT ADDICTED. Says it all.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Matt C on January 03, 2010, 02:10:11 PM
3/4 of the movie involves the guy running around the forest finding himself and connecting with nature.

I think I'll do my part to combat this "vile" movie by seeing it again this week.

Tribal people are NOT "in touch with nature".  They didn't create pollutive technology because they were not smart enough to create such technology, not because they had any intention of preserving nature.

Read this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/22/AR2009122203276_Comments.html

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This "noble nature lover" stuff is complete myth. Geologically speaking, the INSTANT the Indians arrived over the Bering Strait, mass extinctions off all kinds of exotic megafauna began. Ancient horses, camels, big cats, elephants, giant sloths.

Well said!

Now the low intelligence of Aborigines which resulted in them not being able to create technology is being looked at as a good thing!  LOL!!!!!!!!!  Oh yes, they didn't discover the wheel because they were "in touch with nature".  It had nothing to do with the fact that they were unable from an intellectual perspective to create those things.  And Europeans used to be "in touch with nature" too - in the stone age!

Enough with movies produced by millionaires bashing "greed" and western civilization please.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Fury on January 03, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
Tribal people are NOT "in touch with nature".  They didn't create pollutive technology because they were not smart enough to create such technology, not because they had any intention of preserving nature.

Read this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/22/AR2009122203276_Comments.html

Well said!

Now the low intelligence of Aborigines which resulted in them not being able to create technology is being looked at as a good thing!  LOL!!!!!!!!!  Oh yes, they didn't discover the wheel because they were "in touch with nature", had nothing to do with the fact that they were a bunch of low IQ savages or anything.  ::)

Enough with movies produced by millionaires bashing "greed" and western civilization please.

I'm not painting the Aborigines as anything as they, and this green/anti-imperalist movement, don't mean shit to me. And I doubt it means shit to most of the people who saw the movie. It was entertaining, had incredible graphics and that's that.

No one is forcing you to watch it. This movie just broke $1 billion in worldwide gross. Must sting.



Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 03, 2010, 02:13:51 PM
every damn movie is just that, hope this helps, starting with cartoons. I hope you didnt JUST realize that everything you see, hear shapes your brain, your personality and cognitions. Looks like you need a psychology 101 class.

Never forget some people see XxX fast and furious and star wars and find in these things the answers to all their questions. Watching a movie is like discussing with someone or reading someone's book; there's an interaction between your thoughts and those promoted in the product or character. The only problem with TV and movies is that you DO NOT PERTICIPATE ACTIVELY, you re just told, shown, what to think without any feedback from you required.
The main danger with movies and TV is that people really believe they re not BRAINWASHED , when in fact they are, especially because it's a passive activity that dont involve any action. It's very close to what we call addictions. Addiction to being brainwashed.

Ok that is a fair outlook on things and I can't say I disagree.

I just thought that maybe Avatar didn't support your opinions or political stance and that's the reason you were harsh on it.
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Post by: uberman09 on January 03, 2010, 02:14:57 PM
The last Fast and Furious had the most moronic, cliched dialog ever. I knew what they were say before they said it.

Again, some people , especially young ones watch this religiously and copy everything they see and reproduce it in their attitude and behaviors in their everydaylife.

Even adults watching soaps every evening do the same, and try to act like their favorite characters, the ones they identify themselves with -and it was the main goal of the scenari and characters creation in the first place-. The final purpose is always the same; get people addicted to something , a product, to make money out of it as much as possible. Wether it's a movie, soap , documentary, car, shaver, food etc.
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Post by: Matt C on January 03, 2010, 02:17:13 PM
I'm not painting the Aborigines as anything as they, and this green/anti-imperalist movement, don't mean shit to me. And I doubt it means shit to most of the people who saw the movie. It was entertaining, had incredible graphics and that's that.

No one is forcing you to watch it. This movie just broke $1 billion in worldwide gross. Must sting.





It has a massive impact on the minds of a lot of people.  Most people believe the myth of "the noble Indian medicine man" because of movies like this.  It's just anti-white slander.  If James Cameron cares so much about the environment and thinks greed is bad, perhaps it would be best if he gave all of the money he made from this movie to international aid and live in a shack.  I'm not sure if this information is up to date, but you get the point:

http://www.virtualglobetrotting.com/map/james-camerons-house
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Fury on January 03, 2010, 02:19:33 PM
It has a massive impact on the minds of a lot of people.  Most people believe the myth of "the noble Indian medicine man" because of movies like this.  It's just anti-white slander.  If James Cameron cares so much about the environment and thinks greed is bad, perhaps it would be best if he gave all of the money he made from this movie to international aid and live in a shack.  I'm not sure if this information is up to date, but you get the point:

http://www.virtualglobetrotting.com/map/james-camerons-house

I always found it interesting that you push an agenda that revolves around minorities and other non-white groups taking over this and that and yet you're living on land that could be viewed as stolen. Well, I mean MattC, not you Woten.

Cameron has an awesome house, though.  :D
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: uberman09 on January 03, 2010, 02:26:36 PM
the debate is going nowhere, some people think cameron is a "genius" and that his "creations" are pure art and "positive" forms of "humanism"  , when others see this guy and what he does as hypocritical and deeply ironical products to make money.

Just a simple, basic question for the first ones , but, how does making these movies benefit to humanity exactly, i mean, the guy and his senarists are just creating products with stuff they know people want to see. What do these people do that make em deserve the "genius" label. At some point in the human history, "geniuses" were people who were contributing to the well being  of the whole mankind, not movies makers who surf on psycho-social trends and use cgi to reinforce the belif in these psycho-social trends.

A guy like spielberg is a cinematographical genius in the sens that he made History more real to the younger generations with documentary like movies , but ...cameron? come on.


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Cameron has an awesome house, though.  :D

and he's laughing at your stupidity while counting his dollars.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Fury on January 03, 2010, 02:32:22 PM
the debate is going nowhere, some people think cameron is a "genius" and that his "creations" are pure art and "positive" forms of "humanism"  , when others see this guy and what he does as hypocritical and deeply ironical products to make money.

Just a simple, basic question for the first ones , but, how does making these movies benefit to humanity exactly, i mean, the guy and his senarists are just creating products with stuff they know people want to see. What do these people do that make em deserve the "genius" label. At some point in the human history, "geniuses" were people who were contributing to the well being  of the whole mankind, not movies makers who surf on psycho-social trends and use cgi to reinforce the belif in these psycho-social trends.



Since when? People like Mozart, Beethoven and Shakespeare have long been viewed as geniuses and what they created was hardly essential to the well being of mankind.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: wavelength on January 03, 2010, 02:34:47 PM
I just watched the movie ignoring all the simplistic moralistic BS. Without the dialog it's beautiful movie.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Megalodon on January 03, 2010, 02:49:58 PM
James Cameron and Christopher Nolan are perhaps the two biggest IQ'd directors in Hollywood today.   Both have very specific distinctions.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Kwon on January 03, 2010, 02:52:15 PM
Just a simple, basic question for the first ones , but, how does making these movies benefit to humanity exactly,

They (his movies) give pleasure / entertainment / enjoyment to the people (those that enjoy his movies, which are quite a bunch of people), which makes them feel good / better.

Nothing revolutionary like Curing Cancer etc.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: fearANDloathing on January 06, 2010, 11:18:55 AM
Well, most people would see Imperialism as primarily White and most, more probably, as British, given recent history. You seem very defensive about it being seen as 'anti-White.' Odd. 
England , Spain, Portugal, (South American colonization), France(colonization of parts of Africa and the west Indies)...
The list goes on. There was an anti colonization(much of it done by European/white nations)  messages in the movie.
If you're white and took offense, oh well. The movie was written by a white guy who probably knows history and isn't ashamed to point out some of the mistakes and sins his fore fathers may have made.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: uberman09 on January 06, 2010, 04:42:43 PM
England , Spain, Portugal, (South American colonization), France(colonization of parts of Africa and the west Indies)...
The list goes on. There was an anti colonization(much of it done by European/white nations)  messages in the movie.
If you're white and took offense, oh well. The movie was written by a white guy who probably knows history and isn't ashamed to point out some of the mistakes and sins his fore fathers may have made.

::) or maybe he's just surfing on some current maintream trend...
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: Kwon on January 06, 2010, 06:06:25 PM
Or maybe he is just making a movie, like he always does, that he knows will sell well.

He sat down in his expensive couch, thinked for a bit, thought to himself "Cool story Bro!" and wrote it down, then made a movie out of it.

Added some elements he knew people would like and voila!

Such a simple movie (nothing new or revolutionary in the story, basically Dances with Wolves in Space) but yet what a genius.

He knows what the people / masses enjoy and want.
Title: Re: 'Avatar' Opens New Dimension for Profits with $745m Box Office Record
Post by: EL Mariachi on January 06, 2010, 06:41:54 PM
Director James Cameron on course to break the $1bn barrier for the second time

In less than two weeks, the ground-breaking 3D film has grossed $745m (£460m) and is already expected to be the most successful movie of 2009-10, overtaking even the latest Harry Potter film. And on New Year's Eve it was given the presidential seal of approval when the Obama family ventured into a shopping mall in Hawaii to watch the movie.

Should it continue its money-making progress at its current rate, the film could become just the fifth in history to gross more than $1bn. The biggest money-spinning movie of all time is Titanic, which made $1.8bn.

Breaking the $1bn barrier would be a particularly remarkable achievement for James Cameron, Avatar's director, seeing as he also directed Titanic. He would be the first film director to gross $1bn twice.



just downloaded it, shitty movie, wont watchh it